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The Romney speech

The purpose of this speech is to attack Donald Trump.

He accused Donald Trump of lowering the quality of discourse, but then proceeds to call him, throughout the speech, a “con man,” a “fake,” a “phony,” and a “fraud.”

He hypocritically criticizes Trump for not releasing his tax returns, but back when he was running for president it took him a long time to release his tax returns, and he used the same sort of excuses that Trump uses to delay releasing them. (But admittedly, Romney did release them in January 2012 before any primaries.) Hinting that Trump must be hiding something really bad in them is the same sort of rhetorical trick that Trump himself likes to use.

He repeats the same misrepresentations of Trump’s statements that the liberal MSM has been using against Trump. He especially hits him on the KKK thing, which is a misrepresentation of how Trump responded to an obnoxious question from CNN’s Jake Tapper whose intent was to make Trump look like a racist. He says that if Trump becomes a nominee, we will hear the KKK thing a hundred thousand times. Romney is ignoring the fact that if Rubio becomes the nominee, we will hear a hundred thousand times that he believes that women who were raped should not be allowed to have an abortion.

He attacks Trump for supporting “torture,” but as far as I can tell Trump just wants to use the same policies that George W. Bush used to get information from terrorists, and GWB was praised by Romney. Trump is just more bombastic about it.

He says that polls show that Trump can’t beat Hillary, but in early 1980, polls showed that Carter had a massive lead over Reagan, bigger than Hillary’s lead over Trump. In fact some polls have showed that Trump has an edge of Hillary in key states like Florida and Ohio. Trump’s polls would no doubt increase a lot if people like Romney supported him instead of trying to tear him down.

He accuses Trump’s economic plan of creating massive budget deficits (what they said about Reagan), but ignores the fact that Ted Cruz, whom he praises as a better candidate than Trump, is the one who says we should abolish the IRS. How much tax revenue do you think we’d collect without an agency to collect it?

He makes fun of Trump for being called “the Donald,” while ignoring the fact that people fondly called Reagan “the Gipper” based on a character he played in a movie.

Mitt Romney’s prescription for defeating Trump is that voters should vote for whichever not-Trump candidate in their state is most likely to win. Thus the real plan is to force a brokered convention where, I suppose, Romney will be selected as the nominee. (Admittedly Romney is a better nominee than any of the three non-Trumps still in the race, but if that happens Trump supporters will be pissed and Romney will lose to Hillary. I guarantee it.)

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 3, 2016 at 1:21 PM

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  1. Trump supporters have been characterized as “angry” by the media, but I’ve never thought of myself as angry.

    Until now.

    That speech by Romney is really grinding my gears. Why did I waste a vote on that guy? I voted for a RINO because I thought it was better than Obama, and now, Trump, who is really just as much as a RINO as Romney is a bridge too far? So far that the party would rather lose this race (and it actually looks like it could be winnable) than accept Trump?

    This morning Jennifer Rubin tweeted out, “What should we call our new party?” The Whigs I guess, because that’s what’s going to happen to the Republican party if it continues along this incredibly stupid course.

    Mike Street Station

    March 3, 2016 at 1:30 PM

  2. Wow.

    ((( The Rebbe )))

    March 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM

  3. An inspiring speech. This cuckery is what we need to burn down, and should we succeed in it, whatever the outcome of the election, it will be a victory. Like Mike Street St, I’m embarrassed to have supported Romney last time around.

    Glengarry

    March 3, 2016 at 1:50 PM

  4. Romney is destroying any chance of Republicans uniting to win the general election. He is a member of a political cult that will commit suicide instead of addressing legitimate concerns over immigration and the economy. A lesser more socialist America is obviously the goal of the GOPe.

    cesqy

    March 3, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    • Exactly. The only difference between the two parties is the speed downhill.

      vdorta

      March 3, 2016 at 6:35 PM

    • “He is a member of a political cult that will commit suicide instead of addressing legitimate concerns over immigration and the economy.”

      Very true. Let them commit suicide then.

      It’ll be interesting to see what comes up next given the elites, and the people they claim to represent, hate each other so much.

      ModernReader

      March 3, 2016 at 11:17 PM

  5. “Fake,” “phony,” and “fraud” are all stolen from the legendary radio talk show host Bob Grant, who was a pioneer of the right-wing talk format. One of his greatest lines, referring to then-NYC mayor David Dinkins: “In my day, this guy would be a men’s room attendant.”

    Lewis Medlock

    March 3, 2016 at 2:06 PM

  6. Trump’s whole game is to (mostly) only attack those who attack him first, but it was a misfire for Trump to attack Romney so aggressively when Romney only speculated about his tax documents.

    This could do real damage to Trump, but it probably won’t.

    JohnBeck

    March 3, 2016 at 2:11 PM

    • What?

      vdorta

      March 3, 2016 at 6:36 PM

  7. Mitt never explained how he jacked up the value of his IRA to $102 million, given the relatively paltry amounts that can be contributed each year.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/whats-really-going-on-with-mitt-romneys-102-million-ira/261500/

    Mark Caplan

    March 3, 2016 at 2:23 PM

  8. Trump should frame the Wall as a compassionate way to compel Mexico’s conquistador elite ruling class to stop persecuting the Indio minorities. Mexico’s ruling class is ethnically cleansing Mexico of Indios with the complicity of America’s open-border policy. Build the Wall and Mexico’s selfish ruling class would have to offer a helping hand and better living conditions to those poor downtrodden Indios. The Wall’s completion would mark compassionate conservatism’s finest hour.

    Mark Caplan

    March 3, 2016 at 2:33 PM

    • Very nice. Email it to Trump.

      bob sykes

      March 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    • Also, he should frame our current immigration policy as anti-black Jim Crow.

      bob sykes

      March 3, 2016 at 4:43 PM

    • Of the many different reactions to Donald Trump’s inaccurate and insulting comments about how Mexican migrants to the United States come from the bottom of the barrel, one of the most interesting has been that of wealthy and powerful Mexican elites who are suddenly long on indignation and outrage but short on memory and self-awareness.
      That’s because Trump’s dismissive comments about how the United States has become a “dumping ground” for castaways from Mexico sound like something you’d hear bandied about at a Guadalajara country club or a fancy banquet in Mexico City.
      After all, Mexico—like the rest of Latin America—is not exactly a model of social equality. There is prejudice and discrimination, pecking orders to which one must adhere. And those who leave the country are often ignored and forgotten.

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/06/mexican-elites-secretly-agree-with-trump.html

      dsgntd_plyr

      March 3, 2016 at 4:54 PM

    • http://compassrosebooks.blogspot.com/2009/10/edward-abbey-on-immigration.html

      “Stop every campesino at our southern border, give him a handgun, a good rifle, and a case of ammunition, and send him home. He will know what to do with our gifts and good wishes. The people know who their enemies are.” -Cactus Ed

      owentt

      March 3, 2016 at 6:04 PM

    • The Wall is also a compassionate way to compel America’s liberal elite ruling class to stop persecuting the white prole minority. America’s ruling class is ethnically cleansing America of white proles by way of America’s open border policy. Build the Wall and America’s selfish ruling class would have to offer a helping hand and better living conditions to those poor downtrodden white proles. The Wall’s completion would mark compassionate conservatism’s finest hour.

      (No, I’m not kidding.)

      Tarl

      March 3, 2016 at 7:43 PM

      • True words, if there ever were ones.

        Yakov

        March 3, 2016 at 8:54 PM

  9. Trump should compare himself and Romney in a way that shows Trump as a builder and employer of people (ironworkers, masons, laborers, painters, etc..) and Mittens as a conjurer of money, hedge funds, and credit default swaps. Trump makes things. Romney makes his money off of magical money deals.

    pat

    March 3, 2016 at 2:48 PM

  10. Romney still thinks a “trade war” with China would be a terrible thing. Don’t these people understand that we are in a trade war??? Just look at what happened with those Carrier workers in Indiana and what is happening to our skilled workers in terms of outsourcing and H1B visas. I always bring up outsourcing on this blog because I think it is the 2nd most important issue as immigration. We are in a war and we are losing as evidenced by our massive trade deficits every year. It’s crazy!!

    JerseyGuy

    March 3, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    • I’ve come to the conclusion that trade is THE most important issue. Carrier was exported to Mexico. Our trade deficit w/China is $365BN. We are in hock to them. Guys like Romney are responsible.

      gothamette

      March 3, 2016 at 3:42 PM

      • Thing is, at this point we are in such a weak position that a trade war w/China might actually be impossible.

        gothamette

        March 3, 2016 at 3:43 PM

      • We are not actually THAT in hock to them. The foreign-held share of America’s debt is small (34%) and the Chinese held share is smaller still (7%).

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2014/10/28/who-owns-the-most-u-s-debt/#3dc8b1be1907

        Chob

        March 3, 2016 at 5:12 PM

      • 7% of 19 trillion is?

        That’s quite a lot. At some point they might decide not to finance our yuge military, whose job is to reign them in. Do you remember the Hainan island incident, where we ended up groveling to them?

        https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/us-federal-debt-who/

        gothamette

        March 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM

      • “We are not actually THAT in hock to them. The foreign-held share of America’s debt is small (34%) and the Chinese held share is smaller still (7%).”

        You’re confusing our budget deficit with our trade deficit; two different things.

        Mike Street Station

        March 3, 2016 at 6:39 PM

      • “You’re confusing our budget deficit with our trade deficit; two different things.”

        Right, my bad.

        But they are both terrible. Somewhere else I quoted the figures about foreign trade – our trade def. is $355BN. Kind of sucks, no? Read up about this, the stats are alarming. I began to wake up when the late unlamented Jeb dismissed the Boeing in China deal. this is UNACCEPTABLE.

        Read any of these articles:

        http://nationalinterest.org/profile/peter-navarro

        gothamette

        March 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM

  11. The Republican party is a disgrace. It is as antagonistic to middle class and whites as the Left, but just in a more “gentlemanly” way.

    This kind of betrayal of the American people is why extreme things like Nazism happen. At a certain point, an economically/politically checkmated people has no choice but to either become violent or die.

    One must never forget that civilization is simply sublimation. Which means that economics/politics ARE force and there is nothing “fair” or “just” about them except in the sense that there are no (directly, anyway) bleeding heads. When that sublimated force become too antagonistic and powerful the only recourse for the victims is REAL force.

    History can and will repeat itself.

    fakeemail

    March 3, 2016 at 2:51 PM

  12. I think he made a good point re trade war if tariffs were imposed. But I think Trump of all people could get a lot done just jawboning it if not actual tariffs

    Mrs Stitch

    March 3, 2016 at 2:56 PM

  13. Romney is a loser who let us all down in 2012. He could have and should have won the election, and botched it. We counted on him and he blew it.

    No, Trump will tear into Romney’s ego for failing. I’m surprised that Romney would think to enter now, given how bad Trump’s ripping him apart will be.

    Sid

    March 3, 2016 at 3:03 PM

    • The big pussy who would not fight the Democrats, as we hired him to do in 2012, suddenly discovers his cojones when the issue is fighting a Republican.

      So much for Reagan’s 11th Commandment….

      Tarl

      March 3, 2016 at 7:45 PM

  14. “but if that happens Trump supporters will be pissed”

    Pissed? Dude. If they steal the nomination from Trump, people will raze the party down until there’s nothing left. This is an insurgency.

    E. Green

    March 3, 2016 at 3:06 PM

  15. What’s this thing about releasing tax returns? I wish one candidate out there would tell the media to go f**k off and tell them that he is never going to release his tax returns because it is none of the damned business of anybody to see his tax returns. The presumption should be that my, your, anybody’s tax returns are clean and complete unless proven otherwise by either a civil or criminal action initiated by the IRS. The courts and liberals yammer all day about privacy, but I guess that only goes as far as aborting fetuses or thwarting legitimate law enforcement requests to see the encrypted cell phone contents of dead terrorists. Day by day we become a sillier country.

    Daniel

    March 3, 2016 at 3:49 PM

  16. I thought he made a lot of good points, particularly re: Trump University and his many other cheesy, proley business failures.

    Trump’s business failures are a weakness he does not have a good answer to.

    Chob

    March 3, 2016 at 4:24 PM

    • Trump’s business failures are a weakness he does not have a good answer to.

      Except for the 98% of his businesses that are huge successes.

      Andrew E.

      March 3, 2016 at 4:41 PM

      • I don’t think the ratio is anything like that. If he slaps his name on a building he didn’t build, design, or run, does that count as a successful Trump business?

        Chob

        March 3, 2016 at 5:13 PM

      • “I don’t think the ratio is anything like that. If he slaps his name on a building he didn’t build, design, or run, does that count as a successful Trump business?”

        Yes, Does Ralph Lauren design everything? Does Mcdonalds’s own all the restaurants?

        Even Marriott has some franchised hotels.

        Somebody has to take a risk to start a business. Most fail.

        ttgy

        March 3, 2016 at 7:07 PM

      • I don’t think that’s a good analogy. A better analogy would be asking if we give the “Big Bang Theory” kid credit for the sale of “Bazanga” t-shirts.

        J.J.

        March 4, 2016 at 1:04 AM

  17. You forgot the worst part, where he said Trump’s election would impair “our future prosperity.” This is apparently code for, “we businessmen need more cheap labor.” In other words, don’t vote for Trump because then we wouldn’t be able to keep screwing white peoplel who didn’t go to Harvard.

    Harvard Hates America

    March 3, 2016 at 4:26 PM

  18. Romney is everything that’s wrong with GOPe, and everything that’s wrong with stupid white people in America. I know Romney isn’t “stupid” from an IQ perspective, but he’s un-wise, misguided and has messed up priorities. In short, he’s just another globalist stooge and he can go soak.

    peterike

    March 3, 2016 at 4:42 PM

    • GOPe is obsessed with marginal tax rates, capital gains tax rates, free market purity contests, Ronald Reagan, finding the cheapest labor units, and being respectable (as defined by liberals). They projected their agenda onto their voters, and the voters went along with their agenda based on the promise of pushing policies, which would conserve pre-1965 America.

      We’re at the beginning of a pan-western revolt against the Washington Consensus. Hopefully people will realize that Trump-Sanders are closer to each other than they are to Romney-Clinton.

      dsgntd_plyr

      March 3, 2016 at 5:10 PM

      • Sanders is a 1930s-style Bolshevik who has bought into every left-wing shibboleth imaginable. He’s a disaster outside of a couple of economic proposals (and even there he could end up bankrupting the economy). He’s for open borders, handcuffing the cops, shaking down Whitey with Bros Al and Cornell, pushing global warming alarmism, and crying islamophobia at the drop of a hat.

        Lewis Medlock

        March 3, 2016 at 6:55 PM

      • Sanders is even more of a border hawk than Trump.

        Robert

        March 3, 2016 at 11:18 PM

    • It’s really confusing because on an issue by issue comparison, Trump and Romney have almost identical moderate Republican positions. It’s bizarre that they agree on maybe 99% of their agenda, but I guess trade is part of that one percent.

      Mike Street Station

      March 3, 2016 at 6:43 PM

      • Plus a moratorium on Muslims entering the country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 3, 2016 at 6:49 PM

      • “Plus a moratorium on Muslims entering the country.”

        Well who knows, maybe THAT is where the Republican Primary draws the line; they want more Muslims. They should run on that and that alone then since that seems to be the primary difference.

        Mike Street Station

        March 3, 2016 at 7:06 PM

  19. Well, it’s probably fruitless in this crowd, but some points on Romney:

    1. He was a relatively successful politician. He won a larger share of the white vote than W. did in either of his two runs. 1988 was the last time a candidate won a larger share of the white vote than Romney. I would be willing to bet that he will not be surpassed in this statistic by Trump.

    2. Private equity funds are not hedge funds. A case can be made that they are more directly tied to value creation. Trump’s projects are gaudy eyesores.

    3. Romney had class and erudition. He was successful in all aspects of his life — business, politics, nonprofits (SLC Olympics), and raising a large family that by all accounts is successful, affectionate, and intact. His personal, 5-child contribution to slowing America’s diversification probably exceeds that of anyone criticizing him here.

    4. While he didn’t stress immigration in his campaign, he was at least willing to speak the phrase “self-deportation”, which really means tougher enforcement and probably would make a difference on the margin. This is better than anyone besides Cruz and Trump in the current cycle.

    In short, I despise Trump personally, despise his style, and despise the ignorant and provably false statements he makes with regularity. I’ll probably end up voting for him nonetheless, since I’m virtually a single-issue voter on immigration.

    I have great respect for Romney personally and professionally. Even if some of his positions were/are wrong, I do take his criticism of Trump to heart. I suspect I’m not alone.

    Wency

    March 3, 2016 at 4:46 PM

    • Romney is also insidiously speaking for his church. They are increasingly dependent on immigration for growth and want to be recognized as compliant mainstream Christians, not a cult.

      cesqy

      March 3, 2016 at 5:04 PM

    • Worth remembering that Trump BLASTED Romney for the “self-deportation” line which he considered cruel and something that cost Republicans the election. Initiatives to encourage self-deportation still strike me as a better, more feasible way to get a handle on illegal immigration as opposed to door-to-door deportation squads or a solid gold wall or whatever.

      Chob

      March 3, 2016 at 5:16 PM

    • Nah, I think a lot of Lion’s readers feel the same way you do about Romney’s strong points. I’ll bet if you polled the readership on who they would prefer as president purely on personality and style, Romney would win in a walk.

      Greg Pandatshang

      March 3, 2016 at 5:48 PM

      • Screw that. We don’t need a graceful loser. We need a BRAWLER. Down and dirty in the gutter. Play to win like the Democrats do.

        Tarl

        March 3, 2016 at 7:47 PM

    • >> Private equity funds are not hedge funds. A case can be made that they are more directly tied to value creation. Trump’s projects are gaudy eyesores.

      Many private equity firms are far worse than hedge funds or any other financial institution. The business model of many private equity firms is to take a company private, strip it of all it’s cash assets by paying the private equity owners huge, questionable dividends, load the firm up with short-term debt, then, with the collusion of the investment banks, float the company public again, for it to fail within a short time due to the unsustainable debt.

      In Nichola Pileggi’s Wiseguy, Henry Hill describes how one of their mafia tricks was to do something similar to restaurants that they had bullied their way into. They would contact every supplier: linen, meat, liquor, frozen fish, flowers, etc… make massive orders, sell the proceeds to others and leave the restaurant and it’s hapless owner unable to pay the suppliers, and go under. So, what is clearly criminal with the Mafia is perfectly OK with our esteemed private equity firms. And some wonder why Wall Street is so hated and Trump has such appeal.

      Daniel

      March 3, 2016 at 6:07 PM

      • Which is why it’s hypocritical of Romney to criticize that four of Trump’s projects (set up as LLCs or LPs or something like that) filed for bankruptcy, which doesn’t even necessarily mean that anyone gets fired.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 3, 2016 at 6:17 PM

      • I do agree with Lion that the bankruptcy criticisms are hypocrisy, and unfortunately hypocrisy that I’ve personally heard from other businessmen (albeit not real estate men) who should know better.

        For the record, commercial real estate investments are almost always organized as LLCs. They are highly levered because banks and insurance companies are extremely eager to lend against them because they are long-lived assets that make good collateral. Because there is so much cheap debt available, it is foolish not to lever up any real estate investment, but this guarantees that a certain percentage will file for bankruptcy if anything goes wrong.

        I don’t know that Trump is a good real estate investor/developer — I haven’t heard an intelligent analysis either way.

        As for the private equity question, it’s true that most non-VC private equity firms rely on leverage, and only some make any effort to improve operations. I believe that Bain was in the latter category though.

        Even then, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with adding leverage to companies. It forces them to be lean and holds their feet to the fire.

        The lousy diversity-enhancing tactics of Lion’s former employer, for example, might be improved if their margin for error was narrower, perhaps because a PE firm gave them a heavy debt load to service and the assholes in charge would risk losing their jobs if they filed for Chapter 11.

        Wency

        March 3, 2016 at 6:51 PM

      • >>Even then, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with adding leverage to companies. It forces them to be lean and holds their feet to the fire.

        That’s 80s bullshit talking. The truth is many highly leveraged companies go bankrupt, or they have to disassemble themselves and sell the parts, ruining the business.

        I guess you think that Apple ought to disburse all of its cash holdings, every last cent, then load up with short-term debt to force themselves to be more innovative. If they did that it would be bye-bye- Apple.

        Daniel

        March 3, 2016 at 11:46 PM

    • Trump’s projects are gaudy eyesores.

      So you think Trump Tower Manhattan is an “eye sore”? How about Trump Las Vegas or Trump Chicago? Or his elite golf courses around the world.

      Go search those properties and look at them inside and out. Your eyes wont be sore.

      I’m not going to argue about the Atlantic city stuff but that’s done.

      Rifleman

      March 3, 2016 at 6:35 PM

      • That Trump International Tower in Chicago looks fantastic. It holds it’s own on a skyline that has several iconic buldings.

        Camlost

        March 3, 2016 at 7:22 PM

  20. GOPe Aug. 2015: Don’t vote for trump, he’s a stalking horse for Clinton.

    GOPe Dec. 2015: Don’t vote for Trump, he’s unacceptable. We’ll lose to Clinton in a wave election.

    GOPe March 2016: WE MUST SUPPORT HILARY!!!!!

    dsgntd_plyr

    March 3, 2016 at 4:51 PM

    • I’m sympathetic towards some of Romney’s critique’s of Trump, but a brokered convention would be a disaster. If Trump loses because of shenanigans, why should his supporters come out? And I wouldn’t blame them. I am not a Trump supporter, but I have to admit that he has an appeal to voters out there, and he has picked up on points (immigration and trade) that have effected the poorer parts of the country. What other candidates are addressing this? Cruz have picked up on the immigration issue (as a follower, not a leader), and Rubio & Bush are pro-amnesty.

      Half Canadian

      March 3, 2016 at 6:21 PM

  21. Related. I just heard a BBC Radio interview where the guests were a Guido NYC truck driver (he’s pro-Trump, and described himself as a liberal that also likes Sanders) and an MIT economics professor (anti-Trump).

    The guido mentioned a racket NYC migrants have in construction where they beat up other migrants that don’t pay an “employment fee,” and he pointed out Alabama, Georgia, and Arizona cut their illegal numbers down by enforcing e-verify*. The prof had no reply to that, but just kept repeating that more immigration is good because economic models.

    *http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-thorny-economics-of-illegal-immigration-1454984443

    dsgntd_plyr

    March 3, 2016 at 5:03 PM

  22. Even I was a little surprised at the massive hypocrisy when Romney(!) claimed Trump was hiding something in his returns. Candidates are supposed to release 10 years worth of records, whereas Romney released just one or two (even though he had ran for the Presidency back in 2008). Anyone can clean up their act on the most recent returns, which is why the standard had been a decade.

    Trump gets away with outrageous comments and flip-flopping on issues. Romney doesn’t. This concerted effort by the establishment will be dismissed because the media, and Trump supporters are already putting it into the frame of “Who cares about what’s being said, look at WHO is saying it: establishment elites.”

    Vince

    March 3, 2016 at 5:10 PM

    • Trump gets away with outrageous comments and flip-flopping on issues.

      When does the media ask Trump about issues? They’re too busy manufacturing dumb distractions like this David Duke flap.

      Even during our Manchurian candidate Barry Obama’s brief 3 years in the Senate, during which time he wisely took pains to avoid association with the Congressional Black Caucus, he still couldn’t vote “present” all the time, he did have to take a stand for about 30% of votes. So he did have some meager record, and it came down as pretty run-of-the-mill Democrat, but the MSM was unconcerned with any of that then and isn’t asking Trump about actual issues now.

      Do we remember a single media pundit taking Obama to task for continually flipping on gay rights in his earlier career? No. But whenever he was running in majority black districts he opposed or ignored them, then started fully trumpeting LGTBQ rights just before his first presidential run.

      After spending the last 7 years engrossed in starry-eyed adulation over Obama, it no longer occurs to the MSM that they should be asking hard or substantive questions appropriate for real journalism, for them “vetting” comes through liberal PC screech. They’re a twisted group of people.

      Camlost

      March 3, 2016 at 7:16 PM

      • Obama did not come out for LGBTQ rights until re-election. Before he supported civil unions, then “evolved,” even though, as you said there was evidence he supported same-sex marriage. I believe it was a petition, which he said he didn’t sign.

        Obama ran as a blank-slate candidate anyone could pin their dreams to. The “liberal MSM” eviscerated Kerry for flip-flopping, and Romney had to tell everyone he was “severely” conservative in order to make it through the primary season.

        Vince

        March 3, 2016 at 11:38 PM

  23. Stuff like this is wonderful for Trump. I call it the Rule of Two, since Trump has 2 planks in his platform, and 2 important attributes that are re-engaging the prole whites whose apathy allowed Obama to win.

    Trump platform

    1. Immigration
    2. Trade

    Trump attributes

    1. He’s the anti-Obama
    2. He’s the anti-Rubio/Romney/Cruz/McCain… there was never a dime’s worth of difference between them and Obama anyway – for the purposes of white proles.

    It’s that simple.

    Camlost

    March 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM

  24. I was just thinking, our best bet might be for the cucks to run a third party candidate and narrowly cost Trump the election.

    Hillary’s approval in 2020 will probably be in the mid 30s and Trump this time will be able to step in and get the nom easily without having to go through a brutal and divisive primary. Then he can beat Hillary in a route in 2020, a redistricting year, and get rid of all the immigrants.

    Otis the Sweaty

    March 3, 2016 at 5:58 PM

    • Better for Trump to win the Presidency and we get a Democratic Senate. Trump can build the wall and enforce immigration laws through executive orders, and there are no stupid Republicans who will repeal Obamacare or lower the tax rate to zero or stuff like that. Trump would make a deal with Democrats to just fix what’s wrong with Obamacare and make it better.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 3, 2016 at 6:15 PM

      • A Democratic Senate would make it more likely that Trump’s Supreme Court nominees would have to be Souter or Kennedy types.

        nebbish

        March 3, 2016 at 7:04 PM

    • There will be no 2020 for the loser. Come election, Hillary and Trump will be 69 and 70 respectively. If they don’t win this time around they’re done. The only exception will be if one is elected and gets a second term.

      destructure

      March 4, 2016 at 12:37 AM

  25. Lion: over at CuckState they are bashing the Hell out of Mitt and his cucked out speech. I knew that Mitt’s speech wouldn’t hurt Trump (some liberals are still fantasizing it will, but most know it won’t) but it’s looking like it might actually *help* him.

    I don’t believe Mitt’s speech was part of a concerted effort by the establishment to take down Trump. Rather I think it was Mitt trying to make himself relevant and to set himself up as the heir apparent at any brokered convention.

    After Trump wins FLA, I suspect the establishment will start backing Trump.

    Otis the Sweaty

    March 3, 2016 at 6:22 PM

  26. Can you get any more clueless than Mitt Romney? Now he wants to get all passionate and show some grit, but he chooses Trump as an ideological target instead of Obama?

    What an effete, dud of a candidate he was in 2008. Even though his campaign’s complete ineptitudehelped cause it, he doesn’t see the danger that core America is facing right now after the country’s somewhat rapid shift to the left, and that’s not surprising because he can’t see that he misplayed his own candidacy as well.

    And I can’t believe the audacity and arrogance of these weak, failed also-rans sniping at Trump constantly. They should be embarrassed to open their mouth after putting in a half-ass performance that cursed us with Barry Obama. Romney’s like that coach that gets fired for his lack of victories, who then goes to the media to criticize his old teams’ performance the following year if they go on a losing streak.

    Romney, if you know so damn much then why didn’t you win in 2008?

    Camlost

    March 3, 2016 at 6:36 PM

  27. Even Rupert Murdoch was calling for unity after the Super Tuesday results and to focus on the “real enemies” on the Dem side.

    Julian

    March 3, 2016 at 8:06 PM

  28. Why is no one here commenting about Trump’s remark that in 2012 Romney would have gotten on his knees if Trump asked him to? It was pretty extreme even by Trump’s usual standards. Normally I would say that any candidate will start to see his support decline when he descends into gutter talk like this. But I honestly don’t think this will hurt Trump. As a socon there is a bright spot here for me. For years socons have bemoaned the increasing coarsening of our culture – largely popular culture. Now this vulgarity has manifested itself in the political realm very quickly in a truly shocking way. Socons, always insisting that every moral decline is cause by “elites,” will be forced to admit that the American people knew what they were getting when they voted for a candidate who speaks like Trump does. Finally they will have to bluntly admit that a lot of what they dislike about America is a result of choices made by their beloved “silent majority” – an honest appraisal that’s long overdue.

    Maryk

    March 3, 2016 at 8:38 PM

    • I tweeted about it. Check my twitter feed.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 3, 2016 at 8:49 PM

    • So nice of MaryK to admit that in truth, she really loathes “Middle America,” while smarmily pretending to be a Christian and a conservative (both of which are ostensibly creeds that preach love and concern for one’s fellow man). I don’t like Trump’s trashy side but this is a totally ridiculous, ahistorical view of the Trump phenomenon.

      http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/03/secret-donald-trump-voters-speak-out

      Money graph, which sums the whole thing up:

      “Before he ran, the left’s stranglehold on the national conversation of what is or isn’t tolerable was getting stronger by the minute. It was the year of Caitlyn Jenner. Rachel Dolezal. Black Lives Matter. Anyone who even hinted at disapproval was exiled. Every week, someone would dare to blurt out something un-PC, and the media would absolutely crucify them. It had me thinking this was it. We’ve lost. How on earth can we hope to defeat these people, with their complete domination of the national conversation and relentless narrative of “Progress! Tolerance! Acceptance! Feels!”?

      Political correctness is the birthplace of disastrous, un-American policies that will destroy the country in a death by a thousand cuts. But here comes Trump, the first person who didn’t even blink when the machine turns its sights on him.

      He didn’t just fight back. He chewed it up and spit it out.”

      Amen. The popularity of Trump’s vulgarity has nothing to do with choices Middle America made. It is a giant backlash against repression of normal feelings.

      I’m very torn about Trump. I hate the alt-right. But seeing smarmy conservatives get their come-uppance is as sweet as seeing the Black Lives Matter movement go down in flames.

      gothamette

      March 3, 2016 at 9:01 PM

      • At this stage, I want to destroy the Conservative movement even more than I want to get rid of immigrants. Trump is doing holy work.

        Otis the Sweaty

        March 3, 2016 at 9:28 PM

      • Trump is our last chance to save America.

        Great comments, mates. Unusually good! But here is the thing: you mates voted for McCain and Romney, how come? How is it that I, a relatively low IQ simple prole always hated both of them. Also, why you hate Palin so much? She is a real cuty, I wouldn’t vote for her because she is unfit for the office, but she is cute and nice. What good is all your education and high IQ if you don’t see simple things? I’m glad that you came to your senses now and are gonna vote for Trump, just make sure you do.

        @MaryK
        Trump is a patriot who puts America first. There is nobody else in the race that does. It’s that simple and no less should be expected from the county’s leader.

        Yakov

        March 3, 2016 at 9:35 PM

      • I don’t loathe Middle America. I just think that you can’t absolve the people themselves of all responsibility for what the country has become. It doesn’t mean I’m not patriotic. And I don’t hate anyone, including Donald Trump. A free society only works if people are virtuous enough to sustain it. The founding fathers knew this. But it’s something we’ve forgotten today. Leaders in the conservative movement make statements like this but never do the critiquing that is needed – maybe because they are afraid of just the kind of reaction you gave me here. So instead they criticize vague abstractions like “the twentieth century mind” or “modern man.” They live in mortal fear of middle America. Ironically, I think that many of the social causes socons believe in will eventually be taken up by some form of liberalism if only because liberals are able to approach the issues without fearing the American people’s reaction.

        Maryk

        March 3, 2016 at 11:27 PM

      • ” Finally they will have to bluntly admit that a lot of what they dislike about America is a result of choices made by their beloved “silent majority” – an honest appraisal that’s long overdue.”

        OK, you don’t loathe anyone. You just have contempt for them, and zero sympathy, as the above quotation demonstrates. Middle America didn’t choose to have its jobs shipped overseas, its workforce flooded with immigrants, and State U dominated by foreign students.

        If Romney understood any of this, he would have referred to it. Instead he just heaped contempt on the man that a lot of desperate people have latched on to.

        Your social conservatism doesn’t work in the real world, MaryK. That is something that thoughtful libs like Barbara Ehrenreich understand, and you don’t.

        gothamette

        March 4, 2016 at 11:34 AM

  29. […] Romney taken to task by a Trump supporter: […]

  30. “First on CNN: Team Romney explores blocking Trump at RNC”

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/mitt-romney-stop-trump-at-convention/

    MEH 0910

    March 3, 2016 at 9:41 PM


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