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Trump Steaks, Trump ties, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, etc.

Trump started out making his money in real estate development: actually building big buildings.

Then he got into luxury hotel management.

Then he got bored with that stuff and ventured into reality TV and any side business that would allow him to put his name on something else. While Trump made for a surprisingly effective reality TV actor, those side businesses are all outside of his core competencies in real estate, and additionally they are pretty tacky and prole. Who wants to eat a steak named after a billionaire real estate developer?

I think this all indicates some Trump personality flaws. There’s a lack of wisdom and a lack of focus on his core business competencies. I might say that Trump is narcissistic for wanting to have all this stuff named after himself, but in fact he shares this with many other rich people, except that other rich people take an upper-class road to getting stuff named after themselves by donating to universities (real universities), hospitals and museums. And in fact, when proper upper-class people get bored with running their businesses, they turn to philanthropy as a hobby. And if not that, then other hobbies that keep themselves out of the public spotlight. I still remember the documentary movie where you see Jamie Johnson’s dad quietly painting his landscapes while ensconced in the privacy of his mansion, while being frustrated with his son for putting himself in the public spotlight by being involved in a movie project. He advises his son to get involved in a more proper hobby business like dealing in rare books.

This leads us to the real reason why Romney hates Trump. It’s because Trump is PROLE.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 4, 2016 at 9:23 am

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  1. Trump’s grandfather did own a brothel. That should say a lot.


    March 4, 2016 at 9:26 am

    • Its fascinating and confusing to study how attitudes to the circumstances when it is appropriate to have sex have changed.

      In past centuries, travelers stayed overnight at taverns. And most of the female employees there were available for sex. This was a pretty standard deal. Women didn’t travel without being accompanied by male relatives so there was no chance of a misunderstanding with single female travelers.

      This may have been the real reason Joseph and Mary stayed in a stable separate from the main “inn”.

      For all we know, Dominique Strauss-Khan may have been a time traveller from earlier and didn’t get the memo about how things have changed.


      March 4, 2016 at 12:53 pm

  2. Some of this is simply inexperience. The guy was successful in real estate so he assumed he could be successful at any business venture. It’s how entrepreneurs think.

    He was wrong. It happens.

    Great Again

    March 4, 2016 at 9:39 am

  3. I’ve suspected that a lot of the opposition to Trump was class based more than anything else.

    Mike Street Station

    March 4, 2016 at 10:12 am

  4. He didn’t just “get bored” with real estate, he had several spectacular real estate flops and bankruptcies in the late 90s and early 2000s that helped usher him out of that industry.

    In 2004 following his fourth bankruptcy his company was restructured and renamed from “Trump Hotel & Casino Resorts” to “Trump Entertainment,” as he recognized that a career as a famous-for-being-famous celebrity was basically his most viable option left.

    It’s really amazing to look at some of the cornball stuff Trump did in the 2000s. He was a character in the WWE for a while. He did ads for Pizza Hut in Australia. He had his own reality show, which promptly flopped and had to be retooled into a “celebrity” version.

    He was sort of a Krusty the Clown like character who whored his “brand” to the highest bidder. I think someone on this site made a good point that Trump University was actually set up a lot like “Kamp Krusty.”


    March 4, 2016 at 10:17 am

    • The problem with your theory is the fact that Trump wasn’t “ushered out of the real estate industry” in the late 90s and early 2000s.

      Trump Chicago and Trump Las Vegas are his babies, he didn’t just sell his name to get them on someone elses buildings.

      And they were developed in the first decade of the 2000s during what you call his “Krusty the Clown” phase.

      They aren’t “gaudy prole eye sores” either.


      March 4, 2016 at 1:16 pm

      • The trump building in las vegas — a compltely unimaginative, uninspiring, standard rectangular skyscraper that also appears to be entirely gold-plated — is the one of the most single most gaudy and prole structures i have personally ever laid eyes on.

        but there’s no accounting for taste.


        March 4, 2016 at 6:06 pm

  5. Are Trump’s core businesses earning money? Airbnb is disrupting the hotel industry. Golf is in rapid decline, which should be negatively affecting Trump’s golf resorts. Casinos in Atlantic City have mostly fallen into the drink.

    Mark Caplan

    March 4, 2016 at 10:29 am

    • I’m pretty certain (although it’s not listed on his website) that he still has an interest in a lot of Fred Trump’s buildings, which are stable multifamily, primarily out in Queens. He owns 1/3 of the equity, his sisters own the other 2/3rds.

      He has licensing agreements and is the property manager on a number of Trump condos in NY and Westchester. I looked at a few condos for private investing at his project in New Rochelle. He was demanding maintenance fees of circa $1,400/month for management. Outrageous. The condo was having financial difficulty and a lot of units were taken over and being short sold.

      He owns the Trump building on 56th and Fifth Ave., which is likely worth over $500 million and throws off massive cash flow. I say likely because I work in commercial real estate and have access to a lot of data. The data say that Trump condoed the building and is only the owner of the retail component plus about 200,000 sq. ft. of office (in which his company leases 50,000 sq. ft.). The last appraisal in 2012 indicated a market value of $480 million. Cap rates have compressed significantly since then. He only took a $100 million mortgage out on that collateral.

      He’s making a lot more money than you or I.


      March 4, 2016 at 11:26 am

      • Making money, sure. But as a businessman or as someone profiting from wealth transference?

        Bios 1

        March 4, 2016 at 12:29 pm

  6. Trump’s vanity is also the reason why he does not seek approval of the establishment. This lack of approval is why he can forge the rather moderate positions on immigration that give respectables the vapors.

    Yeah, Romney has class. Between the “binders full of of women”, adopting a black baby, complaining about the KKK, Mormon outreach to Mexico, and other actions of establishment cuckery, Romney has lots of class.

    You know who also has class? Feudal lords. Try living under them.


    March 4, 2016 at 10:47 am

    • Mitt Romney didn’t adopt a black baby, one of his sons did.

      Half Canadian

      March 4, 2016 at 12:55 pm

  7. I just watched Trump’s 9am rally in Michigan. The crowd was more rowdy and boisterous than most other rallies and they started their own chants without prompting from Trump. At the end, Trump was asking the crowd for not just a victory but for a larger win margin than predicted by the experts.

    Can Trump bring this enthusiasm to other Rust Belt/Big Ten states like OH and PA?


    March 4, 2016 at 10:48 am

    • Trump will win big in the Rust Belt states, except for Kasich’s home state of Ohio.

      • Is Trump going to win Ohio?

        Otis the Sweaty

        March 4, 2016 at 1:41 pm

      • I think that anti-Trump forces will go all out to help Kasich win Ohio. They realize now that Rubio is never going to win a majority of delegates, and he will probably lose in his home state, so the plan is to deny delegates to Trump. That’s Mitt Romney’s plan too.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 4, 2016 at 1:43 pm

      • The Ohio Republican party/establishment is famous for their vote rigging. They may rival old Tammany Hall and they will pull out all the tricks. Trump would have to have a multi-poll 20-point lead in the days leading up to the vote for me to feel calm about a win.

        Andrew E.

        March 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm

  8. “I still remember the documentary movie where you see Jamie Johnson’s dad quietly painting his landscapes while ensconced in the privacy of his mansion, while being frustrated with his son for putting himself in the public spotlight by being involved in a movie project. He advises his son to get involved in a more proper hobby business like dealing in rare books.”

    I remember this. I also recall the douchey guy who spent tons of money on old telephones.

    I’m waiting for this article on Slate: “I ate a Trump steak and it was pretty good!”


    March 4, 2016 at 10:52 am

  9. I am not prole but I hate the effete country club Republicans (like Romney) who hate proles.


    March 4, 2016 at 10:53 am

  10. Trump is indeed prole. Which is precisely why we need him for President. Since our wealthy/elite class has become utterly corrupted, decadent and viciously hostile to core Americans, we need a tough prole SOB to slap them down.


    March 4, 2016 at 11:00 am

  11. Although this question is impossible to answer, don’t you wonder whether Donald Trump, Wharton grad, is prole, or whether Donald Trump’s character, “Donald Trump” is the actual prole. I believe the latter, but of course, in life, the man often becomes the mask. At least to some extent.

    Donald Trump, off-camera, is a gauche arriviste hustler from Queens. Thinking now of DeCaprio’s roles, Trump is more Wolf of Wall Street than Gatsby. Either way, he is a hell of a lot smarter than they give him credit for.

    The Shepherd

    March 4, 2016 at 11:18 am

  12. To be perfectly bipartisan, Trump’s about as classy as that Jersey City-born crook Martha Stewart and her tacky business empire.


    March 4, 2016 at 11:27 am

    • Trump, Martha Stewart, Oprah… they’re all flavors of the same business model. They’re selling an aspirational lifestyle, a dream, a person who you want to be — which you can achieve by buying various tacky made-in-China trinkets.

      It’s not for nothing that Oprah is often floated as a possible Trump vice-president. Martha Stewart would be a good choice as well. Find Trump’s female equivalent and consolidate the entire Attention K-Mart Shoppers set. Larry the Cable Guy can be secretary of state.


      March 4, 2016 at 3:30 pm

  13. This is the type of analysis that brings me back to the this blog time and again. This post is dead on: Trump is prole, and understanding this gives deep insight into the Trump phenomenon.

    Proles love Trump, because he shares their values. Rich people are, for the most part, better than most of us, and proles resent it, so they LOVE seeing someone like Trump (that values big tits, hot tubs, bright red sports cars, things with his name on it, limousines, etc.) stick it to the establishment.


    March 4, 2016 at 12:05 pm

  14. The imported Eastern European third wife doesn’t help either.

    Trump is exhibit A for why monarchies can be disastrous and why our system prohibits them. Trump isn’t particularly smart, has gaudy aesthetic tastes, and doesn’t really understand or respect the separation of powers. He’s rash, temperamental, and, as shown by his obsession with the small hands thing, actually kind of insecure.

    Donald would be hawking used cars on Staten Island were it not for his father’s fortune and business. Trump is why there was a high estate tax on extreme inherited wealth– to prevent the sleazy, un-gifted heirs of wealthy families from having as much power as they otherwise could. One gets a sublime schadenfreude seeing the pillars of the GOP establishment trashing him for inheriting great wealth (and leveraging it for power) when they themselves have spent the last 20 years decrying the “death tax” and ensuring that the future prolish spawn of America’s plutocracy will wield disproportionate influence on American politics and culture. Romney attacking Trump as “greedy” takes real chutzpah, considering his own career and penchant for Caribbean tax dodging schemes and Swiss bank accounts.

    But I digress. Despite his deficiencies, I think Trump’s intentions are good. He wants to restore the prosperous America of his youth, but just isn’t sufficiently honest or smart enough to explain WHY it doesn’t exist anymore– which is critical to finding solutions.

    The great American middle class has been so at war with itself for over 60 years that it cannot withstand the dual assaults from both the lower class and the wealthy. For every market-manipulating hedge funder who creates no value himself and for every free-loading, unemployed, and government-dependent layabout, there are hundreds of self-serving middle managers, ensconced bureaucrats, tax-dodging merchants, and dishonest small business owners far too willing and eager to climb up the proverbial ladder on the backs of their own colleagues, neighbors, and families. The middle-class-but-resentful-about-it cohort is the persistent auto-immune disease of our society that prevents us from truly curing the parasitical infections that attack from the outside.

    We’ve become an economic class of narrow interests, to the great detriment of our broader, shared prosperity.


    March 4, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    • Not smart?

      The guy owns a billion dollar company, wrote bestsellers (which are actually quite good & entertaining) & had one the most enduring succesful tv shows ever. He’s inches away from becoming the republican candidate on his first real try. If he becomes the nominee he will beat Clinton.

      I didn’t get into his private life, which envies any man. He’s dated supermodels, married three hot women and fathered five kids — who all turned out very well.

      You can’t do all these things non-smart.


      March 4, 2016 at 2:42 pm

  15. Trump steak was an excellent idea. I would try it expecting it to be very good. Like, why would this bother anyone? Forman grill wad good product too. This is American culture and it’s perfectly fine. American presidential candidate or former president can have a suspenders line named after himself and it’s just funny for someone like me but I might take a look. This is America, so?


    March 4, 2016 at 12:15 pm

  16. The guy made a dick joke on national television in a GOP presidential debate. If that’s not prole, what is?


    March 4, 2016 at 12:16 pm

  17. It was petty of Romney to make that speech yesterday. Either Trump hurt his pride (as Trump has suggested) or he is taking orders from the Mormon church:

    Either way, Romney could have taken a dignified approach and remained silent. (As others have pointed out, why didn’t he go after Obama like he is going after Trump?) What Romney did yesterday was not only disloyal, but tasteless.


    March 4, 2016 at 12:42 pm

  18. Trump has always been an outsider in the NYC real estate family society. The other families disliked him for being tacky, prole, and honestly for being too gentile.


    March 4, 2016 at 12:44 pm

  19. This leads us to the real reason why Romney hates Trump. It’s because Trump is PROLE.

    Much more to it than that. Some aspects of Trump are prole but that isn’t what is bothering Romney.

    Because his beloved Mormon church is about as American prole as it gets. And their theology is beyond prole and solidly in the learning disabled adult category.

    Granted, Romney’s version of Mormonism is High Prole no doubt but no intelligent non prole adult could possibly believe in Mormon theology and put on magic underwear everyday as Mitt does.

    So the problem is more than Trump’s prolishness, it’s his vulgar, bad boy, self indulgent, promiscuous extreme NON-beta male attitude and demeanor that drives “good boys” like Mitt and Jeb crazy. They can’t stand it.

    Romney is a rule follower, Trump is a rule flaunter.

    Plus, Trump is about to do what Romney failed to do – become President of the USA. And he’s going to do it by doing everything “wrong”. By being a bad boy, being disruptive, being rude and being “divisive”.

    Beta dorks like Mitt and Jeb are OUTRAGED by it all.


    March 4, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    • ‘Romney is a rule follower, Trump is a rule flaunter.’

      You nailed it. This is why I like Trump personally, aside from his policies. Just clicked now. Yup, that’s me. Love Trump.

      Trump is fine in the context of American culture. Putin acting like this would be considered disgraceful, but for an American president Trump is fine.

      Romney is a Mormon, how high class is it to believe in that scam? Please….

      Incidentally, I was looking on Amazon for complete stories of Sherlock Holmes for my granddaughter in Israel and came across ‘Sherlock Holmes Remastered: A Study in Scarlet: A Remastered Classic’. Among hundreds of idiotic changes the description of Mormons was sanitized to make them look better in line with PC thinking. On the other hand, I have to admit that my hatred for Mormons had stated with reading this book back in the USSR.


      March 4, 2016 at 2:09 pm

  20. UK media personality Piers Morgan made some waves by saying that Trump was “smart” and like a right wing Richard Branson. And indeed, Branson is another who has ventured into various lines of business with his ‘Virgin’ brand.

    “Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the journalist and presenter, said he was “very impressed” with Mr Trump, who he described as smart, warm and in possession of a sense of perspective and the ability to “play people like a concert conductor”…


    March 4, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    • Richard Branson is a good example of a left leaning Trump who gets no bad press.

      If Steve Jobs had decided to run for President on the Democratic ticket, they would have been slobbering over themselves to anoint him king.

      Mike Street Station

      March 4, 2016 at 2:59 pm

      • “If Steve Jobs had decided to run for President on the Democratic ticket, they would have been slobbering over themselves to anoint him king.”

        Yup. Like everything, everything, everything in America, it’s always who/whom. Donald Trump is the wrong Who trying to help the wrong Whoms. His politics seem “disjointed” because they are primarily aimed at helping the American working/middle class, which happens to still be largely white. This group of people — including me — have received nothing but scorn and contempt from the tax farming GOP/DEM establishment. Trumpism is the revolt of the milk cows. We’re tired of giving all the milk to everyone but our own families.


        March 4, 2016 at 3:22 pm

  21. Yes indeed, Trump is very prole. I’m still holding out for Ted Cruz as the best of what’s left (my first choice was Scott Walker–who is also prole as evidenced by his choice not to finish college), but Trump appeals to me as an obnoxious New Yorker with a thick accent–someone just like me!

    . . . who has the balls enough to take Hillary on directly and not be a genteel asshole like the last two presidential candidates the GOP offered.


    March 4, 2016 at 5:07 pm

  22. Russian Trump.


    March 4, 2016 at 5:31 pm

  23. Trump responded to the general question of him naming things after himself in a recent interview. He made two points:

    1) Sometimes the Trump name isn’t an advantage, and when it isn’t, he hasn’t used it. The Plaza didn’t become the Trump Plaza, for example.

    2) Most of the time the Trump name is an advantage, and that’s why he uses it.

    Dave Pinsen

    March 4, 2016 at 6:42 pm

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