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Cruz will be unstoppable in a second ballot

Republican strategist Sean Noble quoted in the Washington Examiner says “Cruz will get most/all Arizona delegates on second ballot.”

It looks more and more like Cruz will be unstoppable if there’s a second ballot. Regardless of whether or not you think the GOPe doesn’t want Ted Cruz to actually win the nomination (and I think they don’t), the GOPe has proven itself time and time again to be incompetent. All of its ammo is being used to stop Trump, and by doing so they are creating the Cruz monster. #LoseWithCruz is their strategy.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 4, 2016 at 8:20 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. I don’t know if Cruz would be “unstoppable,” but he certainly would improve his position on the second ballot if Trump doesn’t come in with the 1237. The Cruz campaign seems to be extremely professional and has taken seriously wooing delegates, something that I think the Trump campaign is only just starting to think about.

    Mike Street Station

    April 4, 2016 at 8:35 am

  2. It isn’t the GOPe, at least not all of it. It’s the TruCons and the CLIMPs working together. Cruz’s is only popular with the donors and legislators, the CLIMPs don’t mind him and some probably are even TruCons themselves and actually want Cruz. The GOPe is not our enemy, the TruCons are.

    If Trump comes up short, are we sure that there are enough TruCons amongst the delegates to get Cruz a majority on the 2nd ballot? Cruz would lose by double digits and Trump will be pulling out all the stops to deny Cruz the nomination out of spite.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 4, 2016 at 9:06 am

    • “Cruz would lose by double digits”


      • Cruz is polling higher to beat hillary. Trump is losing to her


        April 4, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    • …the CLIMPs

      And who are these?


      April 4, 2016 at 10:42 am

      • Consultants, Lobbyists, Intellectuals, Media, Party hacks

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 4, 2016 at 10:14 pm

  3. don’t about it–this latest propaganda push is spreading lies and half-truths about delegates in order to dishearten trump voters so they won’t turnout to vote…just disregard


    April 4, 2016 at 9:31 am

  4. I don’t know why #losewithcruz is more obvious than #losewithtrump. Polls suggest both are equally unelectable. Both have alienated far too much of the general election electorate at this point.


    April 4, 2016 at 9:48 am

    • Trump is a Master Persuader. Scott Adams believes he will beat Hillary. The MSM has already used all of its ammo on Trump. They will go full power against Cruz after he wins the nomination and will take him down easily.

      • Trump is a Master Persuader.

        Yet in almost every race so far the majority of voters have NOT been persuaded to vote for him.

        Despite the YUGE amount of publicity.


        April 4, 2016 at 10:30 am

      • I think you’re too certain that Cruz will win. The betting markets are saying Trump has around 65% chance of getting the nomination still.


        April 4, 2016 at 11:31 am

      • Trump’s path to victory requires winning on the first ballot. He still has a path.

      • I agree with Rifleman. If Trump can’t even “master persuade” the majority of Republicans I don’t know how he’s going to master persuade the majority of Americans.

        The MSN has used all of its ammo on Trump and it’s worked. You’ve conceded, Lion, that you don’t expect Trump to win the majority of delegates. If Trump did somehow wind up as the general election candidate, the ammo would continue to work, and Trump would continue to remain every bit as unpopular as he is today. Some of the ammo has been unfair, but a lot of it hasn’t been. Trump is very flawed and vulnerable on a lot of fronts, and he has engaged in spectacular self-sabotage.

        Again, I am not saying Cruz is better. He’s just as bad. The GOP put up a lot of very bad, unelectable candidates this year.


        April 4, 2016 at 11:48 am

      • The media has as much ammo on Cruz and they will start shooting it after he is nominated. In fact, probably sooner than that. Cruz has just been ignored because until now it was assumed he had even less of a chance of winning the nomination than Trump.

      • I don’t know Lion. There have been a lot of MSM columns with headlines like “Cruz is just as bad, if not worse than Trump.” I think the case against him has been made pretty clearly by now.

        Cruz is un-electable for reasons that are already well-known to everyone. Basically, he is too far-right and thus has no crossover appeal. Trump has said a lot of far-right sounding things as well, PLUS the whole piss-off-everyone-who-is-not-a-straight-white-male thing, which delights some of his racist fanboys, but is terrible politics.

        Trump and Cruz have been as vicious to each other as any two Republicans could be expected to be. And since winning the GOP primary requires basically being the most repulsive Republican one can be, the primary exercise itself is basically a long act of self-destruction. Hillary can’t do worse to them than what they’ve already done.


        April 4, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    • Cruz is running as Romney, but with a different equally creepy religion.

      Romney lost because he started out with 47% of the country against him, he could not effectively respond to Democrat smears, and because there are no evangelicals in the swing states he needed. This year, demographics are worse for the Republican and there is no reason to believe Cruz will win any states Romney wouldn’t. He’s a weaker candidate.

      Cruz has not gotten any negative attention at all from Democrats so far, which is why polls are bogus. They will destroy him.

      Those voters who stayed home? Cruz narrative is that they were TrueCons repulsed by Romney. He’s wrong, those are the Trump voters.

      Look at Wisconson vote tallies. Supposedly the Dem race is also competitive, so this will give a good indication of the strength of Rep vs Democrat. Trump’s polling numbers are sky high for a Republican among independents and Democrats, and if he could get a Republican backing, then he could win the state. Cruz will win the republican opposition vote that always loses in a state that has gone Dem in the last 6 elections (and the demographics keep getting worse).

      As for lose with Trump, a lot of that is just blue pill thinking. “You can’t win unless you do things a certain way.”


      April 4, 2016 at 11:14 am

  5. ” Cruz will be unstoppable if there’s a second ballot”

    I find it ironic that this blog backs the big dumb slob candidate (Trump) while ignoring the smartest person in the race (Cruz).

    Cruz researches things, he prepares. Cruz finds a way to win. Cruz executes well against his plan.

    Trump claims to be competent and hire the best people but he clearly had no idea how the rules work in the Louisiana election. He had no idea that any one would ask him about a position on abortion.

    Running for President is supposed to be Trump’s job but he is poorly prepared and shows no inclination to do the work necessary to be prepared, intent on just making and lot of noise and getting people to laugh with his asides.

    Conversely do you think Cruz is going to be unperpared for Hillary? You think he will hesitate to press an advantage? You think he wont have a ground game and big data analytics in place ahead of time?

    Lion of the Turambar

    April 4, 2016 at 10:22 am

    • Trump is smart enough to be president. He graduated from Wharton. He even says that all the time.

      But seriously, Trump is old (and old people don’t learn new things very easily) and has not been in politics his whole life. He’s much better than Cruz at getting free media and using Twitter. Cruz has been in politics his whole life and is a master of the inside game.

      I think Cruz will run a better campaign than Romney did, but Cruz has to deal with the fact that the guy at the top of the ticket is an extreme conservative and very unlikable to anyone who doesn’t share his TrueCon beliefs. Trump is actually a very likable person, he only has high negatives because the MSM has been telling people nonstop to hate him.

      • Your analysis doesnt hold up- Trump has also been severely disliked since his a-political Apprentice days by some people. And now with his ridiculous blustering he has huge swathes of the country hating him.

        Do you think the MSM telling people to hate him non-stop isnt going to continue into the general election? Obviously- so why is Trump going be able to win and Cruz not? Because the harridan Hillary screeching at people on tv turns them off? Well Cruz benefits from that too.

        At least Cruz is popular with with the demos necessary to win the election. He is focusing his attention to those areas and their turn out. He doesnt care what the editors of the Atlantic and Salon think.

        Lion of the Turambar

        April 4, 2016 at 11:17 am

      • Latinos are a significant bloc in swing states such as Colorado, Florida, Jersey, Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, California. You don’t think that Latino pride will dislodge a significant number of usually Democratic voting Latino voters away from the Dems? I disagree. Lots of Latinos are going to see the name Cruz and think, “that’s my man. He’s one of my own.” With Hilary they see an old, screeching, scolding, bossy, cranky white bitch. If Cruz gets the nomination he just has to reach out to the Trump supporters, explaining that he and Trump are not that different in wishing to destroy the status quo. Cruz can win.


        April 5, 2016 at 1:44 am

    • @turambar,

      it’s irrelevant that cruz is smart if his conclusions are open-borders*, pre-emptive war, and trickle down economics.

      *cruz lies about opposing the gang of 8. he tried to get an amendment to the bill to increase h1bs by 500%, double all other quotas, and give illegals legal status (official channel); cruz also joined green beck to give toys to illegal kids


      April 4, 2016 at 10:39 am

      • So you think taking toys from little kids is a winning position? Master Persuader!

        Lion of the Turambar

        April 4, 2016 at 11:20 am

      • “green” should be “glenn.” thank you autocorrect.


        April 4, 2016 at 11:29 am

      • no, i think saying you’re against illegal immigration, then going out of your way to welcome illegals shows cruz uses his big brain to lie and reach dumb conclusions wrt policy. try again.


        April 4, 2016 at 1:09 pm

      • You are trying to get to the right of Glenn Beck

        And you are coming out against children in a detention center having toys.

        Neither works.

        Lion of the Turambar

        April 4, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    • “I find it ironic that this blog backs the big dumb slob candidate (Trump) while ignoring the smartest person in the race (Cruz).”

      Sure Cruz is smart, but not smart enough to have accomplished anything as senator. His big plan to shut down the government to stop Obamacare was a a disaster. He never thought out how he was going to get Obama to sign a budget that defunds his signature program. I kept hoping he had some secret tactic to make it work but it never happened. To have such a massive tactical failure, he’s not THAT smart.

      Mike Street Station

      April 4, 2016 at 2:16 pm

  6. I’ve made my decision. I’m done with the GOP unless the nominee is Trump. Maybe I’ll come back if some Trump 2.0 comes along, but I don’t see this party changing.

    They sincerely believe in trickle down economics and “freedom.”


    April 4, 2016 at 10:28 am

    • I agree. If they steal the nomination from Trump the GOP will have proven itself the personal property of donors who put their personal economic interests ahead of the nation. I’ve generally considered myself an independent who supports the GOP against the Dems. But I’m starting to develop a deep hatred for the GOP as well.


      April 4, 2016 at 11:39 am

  7. I believe Cruz will underperform McCain’s numbers. The guy is absolutely toxic.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 4, 2016 at 10:47 am

  8. Donald Trump might get knocked out on a second ballot, but that does not mean Cruz is unstoppable. They will knock him out on a third ballot.


    April 4, 2016 at 11:01 am

    • Precisely. The GOPe will throw Cruz away like a used snot rag once he’s served his purpose, which is to prevent Trump from being the nominee. I would not rule out a ticket consisting of, let’s say, Bush and Kasich or Bush and Fiorina.

      Sgt. Joe Friday

      April 4, 2016 at 1:53 pm

  9. I think Lion is crediting the media with too much power to manipulate people. Trump is a very unlikeable person. Even many of the people voting for him are doing so because of the trade and immigration issues and don’t care for him personally. But Trump’s negatives, especially with women, are sky high. Also, he hasn’t debated Hillary or Bernie yet. As for being a “master persuader” he wasn’t enough of a persuader to win Republican primaries with more than 50% of the vote. Why should we assume he’d do better with independents and persuadable Democrats? Trump has an impressive group of hardcore supporters, but his appeal is limited. I wouldn’t t be surprised if some of the people who voted for him in the early primaries already regret their vote.

    At this point I don’t know what to do. I’m beginning to think that the party is so hopelessly divided this year that any Republican nominee will lose in November. In this case I’d rather Trump get the nomination and take the loss instead of a TrueCon like Cruz. I’m seriously thinking of voting for Trump for this reason. Although I feel like crap because of it.


    April 4, 2016 at 11:16 am

    • It’s impossible to over-credit the media’s power to manipulate people.

    • rubio got 1 thing right. the msn is the world’s biggest super pac.


      April 4, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    • ” Even many of the people voting for him are doing so because of the trade and immigration issues and don’t care for him personally”

      LULZ. Well, yes.

      It’s amazing that none of the respectable pols picked up on this, except for Canny Ted Cruz, who is obviously lying about being concerned about these issues.


      April 5, 2016 at 5:51 pm

  10. Paul Ryan is the supposed nominee. He’s already boasting. That’s the GOPe play.


    April 4, 2016 at 11:23 am

    • Right, that’s what I keep hearing/reading. I don’t know what to make of it because I don’t know what to make of anything anymore.

      Does anyone?


      April 5, 2016 at 5:50 pm

  11. I normally don’t vote because the universal franchise always leads to civilizations that are sodomite, effeminate, and feministed, but I will vote for Cruz because he vowed to repeal the unconstitutional RobertsTax (aka Obamacare).


    DEATH TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, a documented Racketeering-Influenced Corrupt Organization


    April 4, 2016 at 2:34 pm

  12. Cruz and Trump would both be terrible presidents. Cruz would be another Andrew Johnson (one of the worst). Trump would be like Buchanan (generally considered the worst, but more of a bumbler and ditherer than the reactionary A. Johnson). Those awful presidents held office during a period of intense political division, i.e. immediately before and after the Civil War.


    April 6, 2016 at 6:50 am

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