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Quinnipiac poll good news for Trump!

Link to latest polls at RealClearPolitics

Trump 4 points ahead of Clinton in Ohio, a state that Romney lost in 2012.

Trump only 1 point behind Clinton in Florida and Pennsylvnia. Romney lost Florida by only 1 point in 2012, but he lost Pennsylvania by a much wider margin of more than 5 points.

In fact, Pennsylvania voted Democratic in the last six presidential elections, so we see that Trump’s appeal to prole whites will allow him to win states like Pennsylvania that have been lost to previous Republican candidates.

Back in November, 2015, I wrote that Pennsylvania is the key state in Trump’s path to winning the presidency.

I believe that in an election against Hilllary Clinton, Trump will be able to win the support of prole whites in Pennsylvania who have traditionally voted Democratic. This is because Trump speaks to issues that matter to prole whites: immigration, free trade deals, national security. Trump is smart enough to avoid focusing on issues that turn off prole whites, such as tax cuts for the rich and the big issue that divides whites, abortion. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump moves to the center on those issues after winning the Republican nomination.

So we see the prescience of that post. The poll shows Trump almost tied with Clinton in Pennsylvania, and Trump has already moved to the center on tax cuts for the rich. Soon we will also see Trump move to the center on abortion. (Which is good because abortion is one of those issues which divides the white vote and prevents whites from uniting on important issues like immigration. Trump needs to move far enough to the center on abortion so that he loses no votes from pro-choice blue-collar whites who otherwise support Trump’s immigration, trade, and foreign policy platform.)

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 10, 2016 at EST am

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  1. isn’t a more detailed immigration plan coming soon? i know he released something last fall, but that was more of a position paper than a policy paper.

    if he incorporates most of what his ghost writers wrote last year, and some group like numbers us, or cis say it would cause a net drop in immigrant levels i might volunteer for a political campaign for the first time in my life.

    dsgntd_plyr

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

    • He says nothing about reducing immigration levels at his rallies. The way he enthusiastically embraces legal immigration implies that he’s not interested in reducing levels.

      Magnavox

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • We don’t really know what he wants to do with legal immigration. He says he wants people to come here legally. That could mean just 50,000 per year.

        It’s might take a while to get immigration under control. Hopefully, he can at least take care of illegal immigration.

        But really at this point I don’t care anymore. I just want to retire early and be able to live like I want to. I just hope I can live a nice retirement before everything goes to hell.

        ttgy

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • If he stops illegal immigration and doesn’t even touch legal immigration then he’s cut immigration in half right there. He’s also mentioned challenging birthright citizenship. With several SCOTUS slots up for grabs it could happen. With 8 years in office to potentially deport 30 million people who are voting Democrat, sucking up government benefits and driving down working class wages he has the potential to remake the country. I’m not saying it will happen. He might fall flat on his face. I’m just saying the potential is there.

        destructure

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • He says nothing about anything at his rallies. He talks about how “beautiful” the state he is in is, he talks about how much he “loves” them, etc., etc. Not a criticism, just fact.

        It’s the guys who wind up the crowds that are interesting. In most of them he’s got the Jewish campaign aide, I forget his name, who shouts about immigration. I remember being totally shocked when I saw him — he was very on point, no punches pulled. I was amazed.

        In WVA, he had the black preacher. He was fiery.

        I enjoy both these guys because they are living disproofs to the fallacy that Trump is racist/anti-Semitic, and should also give fits to the alt-right.

        gothamette

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

    • There is no centralized “alt right.” It’s a loosely affiliated group of independently thinking conservative-leaning people. Ergo, they are not even identifiable enough to be a valid target of hatred. But then again, some people just need something to hate don’t they?

      shiva1008

      May 11, 2016 at EST am

  2. Oops, think you missed the last bit of that sentence
    (feel free to delete this comment)

    AnonymousCoward

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

  3. move what?

    Francis

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

  4. Soon we will also see Trump move…?

    IHTG

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

    • Soon we will also see Trump move…?

      There’s no way to know what Trump will ultimately do until he has assumed dictatorial powers. Then we will know.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  5. These polls have already inspired at least one delusional article explaining why Hillary will do well with white proles.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/10/can-trump-really-win-with-blue-collar-whites-keep-an-eye-on-the-women/

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

    • Or Burn n Sunders, who think he’ll burn and tear both Clinton and Trump into shards.

      JS

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  6. great pro open borders post from the cucks at RedState: http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2016/05/10/center-immigration-studies-publishing-alt-right-racist/

    These are your comrades, MaryK. You are allied with literally the most vile group of people in human history.

    So happy that Trump has destroyed Conservatism forever.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

    • So happy that Trump has destroyed Conservatism forever.

      No, he hasn’t. He will uphold true conservatism by, e.g., nominating Scalia-like judges for SCOTUS. He has, however, destroyed the hypocrisy of some on the right by exposing their dishonesty.

      maga

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • Jesus Christ:

      “Back in 2013, it was exposed that the Heritage Foundation was publishing the works of “alt right” Jason Richwine. He’s so deep in this stuff he wrote his Harvard dissertation on arguing that immigrants have a low IQ. This he did despite the huge amount of cultural and economic bias that would make such a finding irrelevant. IQ tests measure how good you are at the IQ test, how familiar you are with the test format and procedures, and how familiar you are with the culture that made them, not how smart you are.”

      These people aren’t cucks. They’re full-blown, reality-denying SJWs.

      Horace Pinker

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  7. I don’t disagree that PA is key state but I disagree that he’ll win it. My D base case is 280-258.

    uatu

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

  8. Clinton’s going to get a poll boost when Bernie finally withdraws. Trump will have a lot of work to do to get where the polls say he is now.

    Rotten

    May 10, 2016 at EST am

    • How do you know Bernie is going to do that? What will stop him to go all the way to the convention?

      vdorta

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Bernie is gonna get a phone call at some point. Then he’s gonna support HRC. Capiche?

        Vincent

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • @Rotten, I am a total pessimist normally, but I don’t see that. She may get a poll boost but there will be a lot of utterly disgusted Berniecrats who won’t support her. The more principled lefties will end up holding their noses and voting for her, but some won’t vote for anyone, and some are emotionally labile kids who will vote Trump out of spite & for the LULZ. I’ll take it.

      I see Hillary presiding over a demoralized, chaotic party.

      gothamette

      May 11, 2016 at EST am

  9. Wait, so people get a bump when they get the nomination? Damned exciting stuff.
    All he has to do is hope no one else gets nominated between now and election day.

    If you really want to impress with your prescience, predict Trumps first embarrassing product line after his loss? Trump Hot Yoga? Trump Selfie Stick?

    Lion of the Turambar

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • It’s impossible for Trump to lose. He already scored the biggest victory in the history of white America: destroying the conservative movement.

      Meanwhile, Trump’s appeal amongst regular GOP voters is only going to increase, along with his appeal to indies and soft Dems. The TruCons will never join the Trump Train but they are losers who, as another commentor pointed out yesterday, can’t even stop trannies from using women’s bathrooms.

      Death to Conservatism!

      Otis the Sweaty

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • It’s impossible for Trump to lose.

      His reality-distortion field already has Clinton on the defensive.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  10. Dem pollster PPP has Clinton ahead nationally by 4. SurveyMonkey has her ahead nationally by 5.

    Race is already tightening.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  11. I don’t know Michigan well, never been anywhere there but a hotel near the Detroit airport. But its just about impossible for me to believe that Trump doesn’t win MI after he forces Crooked Hillary to defend NAFTA and TPP in a few debates. Michigan stands to gain ‘UGE if we put up a tariff. The easiest way to increase domestic auto part production is to expand existing plants, many of which are in MI. He’s going to win the election.

    Economic Sophisms

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • Is she going to debate him?

      Curle

      May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • In the general election she’ll have to debate him, there are always a number of debates

        Economic Sophisms

        May 11, 2016 at EST pm

    • About Michigan, how many white voters are doing a slow burn because of the way Hillary (and Bernie) blamed the Flint water mess on the Republican party?

      gothamette

      May 11, 2016 at EST am

  12. Here’s a post Otis will love:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/evangelicals-to-trump-vp-is-the-key-222987

    “He’s not part of the Republican conservative family,” added Richard Viguerie, a longtime fixture of conservative politics with close ties to evangelical power brokers.

    “He needs to prove to us that he’s worthy of our support. It’s not sufficient to say he’s not Hillary. He needs to do more than that. … The ballgame on that is personnel.”

    http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/09/nasty-guy-no-heart-trump-war-religious-right/

    Dr. Moore wrote in which he stated that, “The man on the throne in heaven is a dark-skinned, Aramaic-speaking ‘foreigner’ who is probably not all that impressed by chants of ‘Make America Great Again.’”

    Christian leaders have sought to make their voices heard against Trump.

    —————————————————————-

    Lion, you need to do a separate post on these people. They might not vote Hilary they might just stay home, pout and wait for a Savior in 2020.

    Trump needs to turn out traditional NON voters and Democrats.

    Trump can DEFINITELY win Ohio, Penn and Florida. Romney offered them NOTHING yet didn’t lose by much.

    Trump needs to show more images of the invasion of this country, the media is doing everything it can to keep people asleep on this.

    Rifleman

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • Lion, you need to do a separate post on these people

      We must wage Jihad of them.

      Otis the Sweaty

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Kill ’em all and let the Lord sort ’em out. Yes, I ripped this off from some guy back during the Albigensian Crusade. No, I’m not joking.

        Vincent

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • 1. Evangelicals are not the problem in PA. I actually know a few people from PA. Trump can get these people, I know it.

      2. About those Evangelicals in the article – they don’t speak for the Evangelical rank and file. The guy who is behind the twitter @DemsRTheRealRacists is an Evangelical. He’s solidly pro-Trump, sick of the same things we are.

      This article and its ilk are to be expected. Now everyone’s lining up to curry favor with The King. “You can’t make it without me,” these schmucks are saying. Actually, he can.

      Did you see the results in WVA? Hillary got schlonged, & I made some mad money on Predictit (thank you, Lion). Bernie got 120K votes, Trump 151K. If Trump can get 25% of the Bernie voters (and those who didn’t vote) WVA is his. WVA abuts PA.

      gothamette

      May 11, 2016 at EST am

  13. I don’t know that support from “prole whites” is going to have the effect you think in PA. I thought Romney would win PA in 2012 due to the outright hatred you saw for Obama in “prole” areas, even amongst lifelong Democrats. He’ll take that crowd, but he’ll need more than that.

    It will be interesting to see what happens if Trump moves to the center on abortion. Legal no matter what and illegal no matter what are both extremist positions most of the public doesn’t support. It would be interesting to see what happened with a candidate who moved to a more European model (unrestricted to 20 weeks, illegal after that), though that’s pretty much what Texas did, and feminists went crazy.

    J1

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • I don’t know that support from “prole whites” is going to have the effect you think in PA. I thought Romney would win PA in 2012 due to the outright hatred you saw for Obama in “prole” areas, even amongst lifelong Democrats. He’ll take that crowd, but he’ll need more than that.

      That’s not who we are talking about.

      You may not have noticed but the GOPe HATES Trump. That’s the Romney and Bush crowd. That’s the NAFTA/GATT/TPP trade deals that gutted Ohio/Mich/Penn.

      Trump aint Romney or McCain.

      Trump’s appeal goes toward non traditional Republicans. The appeal is to the anti open borders, anti-bad trade deals, anti-unneeded wars voters.

      The Christian holy rollers, the anti abortion obsessives can sit and watch.

      Let’s hope Trump forges a new coalition, one that is America First in a competitive world

      We need to marginalize the anti-American Republican Globalists who pander to Christian extremists while laughing at them behind their backs.

      Rifleman

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • I live in PA and I can tell you that the support for Trump here is very strong. Every white prole man, woman and child will be supporting Trump. The only real strongholds for Hillary are the peripheral SWPL suburbs around Philly and Pittsburgh. Even there, Trump may get some market share after he moderates his position on abortion, which he will. Many of those SWPLs are former moderate Republicans that just couldn’t bear to be associated with Christian fundamentalists. Trump does not have that stink on him. In fact, in many ways he is the epitome of the old school, northeastern moderate Republican.

      The best thing Trump could do on abortion is to just say that he will leave Roe V. Wade alone. It will still be running to the right of Hillary, who wants you to be able to kill your kid even once it’s head is poking out and is smiling at mommy. Correct me if I’m wrong but I thought that original ruling already said that abortions were unrestricted up to 20 weeks except when the mother’s life is in danger. That is five months, which in my book is a reasonable compromise. They got it right the first time. I think One of the greatest gifts Trump can give to the Republican Party after destroying the “conservative movement” is the hope that we can finally stop making abortion such an issue every election cycle. TrueCons need to get the f@#% over it.

      B.T.D.T.

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Roe v. Wade is terrible constitutional law. Everyone acknowledges this. It needs to be overturned. You want to kill your babies, get your laws passed democratically in your state.

        Andrew E.

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Without Roe v. Wade, abortion would be decided at the federal level and NOT the state level. For political reasons. Both sides think the issue is too important to be left to individual states.

      • If Trump says he will “leave Roe v Wade alone” after his earlier pro-life rhetoric he loses every state Romney lost east of the Mississippi by even larger margins than Romney lost them . (By the way, Casey is the name of the Supreme Court decision that is the federally imposed position these days, not Roe v Wade, but that is besides the point). He might pick up one small Western state with lots of libertarians but that still puts him in a losing position. A Trump who exposes himself as a conniving liar on abortion between now and November has the same chance of winning as Romney would have had if Romney had said out loud he really meant what he said about the 47 percent. Like it or not, if you don’t understand that you don’t understand the country you live in. There are between 5 and 10 million educated adult voters, many of them in swing states, who would otherwise vote for Trump who will stay home or will vote third party if he indicates he plans to put a pro-abortion Ivy League grad on the Supreme Court. Moving to the pro-abortion left on that issue is not going to peel off 5 to 10 million Obama/Hillary voters for Trump. Ergo, he won’t do it.

        howitzer daniel

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • You want to kill your babies…

        It’s over. Roe v Wade is NOT going to be overturned.

        Fetuses are not babies and women aren’t going to give up the rights to their own bodies to make you guys happy.

        Not going to happen even with pander GOPe politicians who pretend to be anti abortion just to get the votes of guys like you and then laugh themselves all the way to the bank.

        Rifleman

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Andrew — I don’t want to kill my kids. I want low IQ tramps on welfare to kill theirs. Abortion may be evil. But it’s a necessary evil to keep the country from turning into 3rd world sewer.

        destructure

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • What does Lion mean when he says that absent Roe the issue would be decided at the federal level? Does he mean Congress would try to subsume the issue under its commerce power? Seems ridiculous.

        West Coast IA

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Fine, pass a constitutional amendment if you can.

        Andrew E.

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • “Trump does not have that stink on him. In fact, in many ways he is the epitome of the old school, northeastern moderate Republican.”

        Then we’re now letting the cat out of the bag? This is what I’ve been saying all along. This is why I believe Trump is lying when he claims he’ll appoint strict constructionists to SCOTUS. Trump can’t be an ally to the evangelical wing of the party and be a northeastern moderate Republican at the same time, because the latter are the epitome of the “establishment” that the base is so angry at. But it ‘s interesting that since Trump has the nomination locked up, many people are all but admitting that he’s been lying to socons all along.

        And it wouldn’t matter if abortion was destroyed as the determining social issue for the cultural Right. The Left is never going to relent, as we can see by how quickly they went from total victory on gay rights to gay marriage, and now to allowing men in women’s bathrooms. If the abortion issue were removed, another issue would take it’s place. What else will Truecons need to “get the f@#$ over” in the future?

        Maryk

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Guys, Trump is not going to crusade on abortion. He’s going to crusade on immigration, trade and foreign policy. But he will absolutely appoint Scalia/Thomas-like judges to SCOTUS. If he gets enough appointments then Roe v. Wade will eventually be reviewed and likely overturned. Those are the facts.

        Andrew E.

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • Fine, pass a constitutional amendment if you can.

        They don’t need to. They already have Roe vs Wade.

        And you’d better be glad they do. Because the majority of voters WANT to keep abortion legal. If it was ever overturned then the GOP would be routed at the polls and the Democrats would dominate the country until they finally passed an amendment. Is that what you want? Think, McFly. Think!

        destructure

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • “If Trump says he will “leave Roe v Wade alone” after his earlier pro-life rhetoric he loses every state Romney lost east of the Mississippi by even larger margins than Romney lost them .”

        No he won’t.

        gothamette

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • Because the majority of voters WANT to keep abortion legal.

        If that’s true then they should have no problem passing laws as such.

        Andrew E.

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • Fuck democracy and fuck the “muh babies” cuck bullshit.

        If you want to be pro life you need to at least have the courage of your convictions and say that you are okay with the black population of the US increasing by 10s of millions of people.

        Otis the Sweaty

        May 12, 2016 at EST am

    • Trump’s appeal goes toward non traditional Republicans. The appeal is to the anti open borders, anti-bad trade deals, anti-unneeded wars voters.

      And whose AIPAC speeches are written by his Jewish son-in-law with more than a little input from his Jewish daughter:

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  14. waterboy tells the TruCons to get fucked. CuckState not happy: http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/05/10/breaking-marco-rubio-tells-tapper-will-honor-pledge-support-nominee-even-trump/

    I’m still open to WaterBoy as Trump’s running mate. Even if he brings nothing it would cause massive TruCon tears.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • Little Marco is a good guy to pick as V.P. if you’re looking to catch a bullet good and quick. I can see it now…”Lone gunman, former CIA operative with ties to the Bush family, found in a daze in own apartment with a copy of Mein Kampf. Can’t remember his own name or the last 48 hours. Neighbors say he was a loner, kind of kept to himself…”

      B.T.D.T.

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  15. There’s also some not-so-good news….
    From the RealClear Politics link, what do you make of the May 5 North Carolina results showing Clinton +9? That was a Romney state in 2012.

    Trump needs 64 more electoral votes than 206 Romney received in 2012. If we assume these flips:
    +20 PA
    +18 OH
    +16 MI
    -15 NC

    …he will need 25 more.

    I don’t see Florida flipping (breathtaking rate of NAMification), Virginia is lost to the DC suburbs, and MN and WI aren’t even really swing states any more.

    The 25 will have to come from sweeping: NV (6), CO (9), IA (6), NH (4). That gives 270 exactly. He wouldn’t have a single electorate vote to spare. Just imagine the outrage that would ensue!

    anon

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • Virginia is lost to the DC suburbs, and MN and WI aren’t even really swing states any more.

      Virginia and NC are winnable; Obama won them with exceptionally high, and almost unanimous, black turnout. Clinton won’t bring out as many black voters and Trump should get 10-15% of those who do vote.

      Wisconsin should narrow if Trump builds momentum across the Rust Belt.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • For once I agree with Steve Sailer. I think that this election is extremely hard to predict. I’m usually skeptical of phrases like “rewriting the electoral map” – but that does happen. Look at the electoral map of the 1948 election (which was weird because it had 3rd and 4th party candidates) but anyway, look at it.

        The impossible factor to quantify in polls is how whites have been frightened and radicalized by the 2nd Obama administration.

        gothamette

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • The impossible factor to quantify in polls is how whites have been frightened and radicalized by the 2nd Obama administration.

        White professionals are overdue to go over to the GOP. The economy sucks for college grads as well.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        May 11, 2016 at EST pm

  16. Trump 4 points ahead of Clinton in Ohio, a state that Romney lost in 2012.

    Those are great numbers. If he’s ahead this early by 4 in Ohio and behind by 1 in Pennsylvania then Michigan is in also in play. It also shows the potential to score a surprise or two in the Northeast.

    So we see the prescience of that post. The poll shows Trump almost tied with Clinton in Pennsylvania, and Trump has already moved to the center on tax cuts for the rich. Soon we will also see Trump move to the center on abortion.

    While the Rustbelt prole vote looks good right now, Trump needs to be careful not to depress Evangelical turnout in states like Iowa and Virginia.

    He doesn’t need to move on abortion, he only needs to say nothing about it and promise to nominate conservative high court justices. Suburban moderates already know he’s a Manhattan playboy, not a bible-thumper. Commenting on abortion is more likely to alienate either Evanglicals who see him as too socially liberal or moderates who misunderstand his position. Best to just say nothing about social-con issues.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  17. What else can he do to drive up white Evangelical turnout? Emphasize gun rights more?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • HUH? Evangelicals will turn out for Trump and pull the lever for the GOP in the same numbers they always have.

      Jerry Falwell already endorsed him, FWIW. Others will follow.

      Trump’s got to win over swing, non-religious white women who’ve been alienated by his abrasive persona after 7 years of a silver-tongued media construct from Kenya/Manchuria.

      Camlost

      May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • The economy already sucks for the people who are Trump’s natural constituency. They’ve had the fear of God put in them as a result of NAFTA. The butcher’s bill came due in 2009.

        The biggest investment that white Americans have is their homes, and Mr. Obama wants to destroy even that:

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/09/one-obamas-last-acts-will-punish-suburbs-white-wealthy/

        The link header references the word “wealthy” – but that’s bullshit. Wealthy suburbs won’t be Section 8’d, lower-to middle class suburbs will. Even so, the “Section 8 gangs” will see opportunity – in the form of all that lovely property waiting to be stolen!

        One of the little known aspects of Obama Care were “health care navigators” – since most people couldn’t navigate their way around the complexities of the new system, various non-profits (funded by the government) helped them. This was also a jobs program for minorities. In this scheme, they’ll have “mobility counselors” to do the same.

        The news was first broken in Murdoch’s Post, which I consider significant.

        This is also very important:

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/13/hud-rewrites-the-map-makes-dubuque-iowa-part-of-chicago/

        When Obama first became President, I used to read arguments on this blog about how intelligent he was. Lion would argue with all the racists that Obama was quite bright indeed. In fact, Obama is a bastard of the first water, a tyrant, and an evil man – but a political genius. He runs rings around his opponents.

        It’s imperative that we elect a President who will undo this.

        gothamette

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

      • “Obama is a bastard of the first water, a tyrant, and an evil man – but a political genius. He runs rings around his opponents.”

        Obama knows exactly what he is doing. Worth repeating five times.

      • HUH? Evangelicals will turn out for Trump and pull the lever for the GOP in the same numbers they always have.

        While they will turnout you never know if an extra few percentage points in turnout by making targeted appeals to them could make the difference in a key swing state.

        The link header references the word “wealthy” – but that’s bullshit. Wealthy suburbs won’t be Section 8’d, lower-to middle class suburbs will. Even so, the “Section 8 gangs” will see opportunity – in the form of all that lovely property waiting to be stolen!

        Actually, the feds have been moving Section 8 recipients into wealthy suburbs.

        Trump is well positioned to flip many of those formerly Republican suburbanites who defected to Bill Clinton in the 90s.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        May 11, 2016 at EST pm

  18. Trump won West Virginia.

    IHTG

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

  19. I think there’s a strong possibility the economy will turn sour and affect the election. A recession will torpedo any hope of Hillary as the party in power during a downturn usually gets shmacked hard. Plus, Trump’s positions on immigration and trade will resonate even more during a downturn.

    destructure

    May 10, 2016 at EST pm

    • I’ve thought about that, and I continue to believe the Fed will manage to inflate the economy until the election, and THEN there will be a recession.

      • It doesn’t work like that. The Fed is going to continue to inflate forever cause that is what the Fed does. It’s got nothing to do with politics.

        I believe a mild recession is inevitable, either late this year or sometime next year. But it will be a shallow recession, not a collapse like 2008.

        The American economy may collapse in the long term, but in the short and medium term I just expect Japanification.

        Otis the Sweaty

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • I agree. The establishment will definitely try to postpone it until after the election then drop it in Trump’s lap. But they’re not omnipotent. They can’t hold back the tide. It may be coming sooner rather than later whether they like it or not. We’ll see.

        destructure

        May 10, 2016 at EST pm

      • Unless there is a Lehman collapse this will all be undernews until after the election. Lion is right that everything will be done to keep the economy inflated, and the Facebook curators will suppress any negative news, other than Trump’s bankruptcies.

        Lion of the Turambar

        May 11, 2016 at EST am

  20. Maryk said – “Then we’re now letting the cat out of the bag? This is what I’ve been saying all along. This is why I believe Trump is lying when he claims he’ll appoint strict constructionists to SCOTUS. Trump can’t be an ally to the evangelical wing of the party and be a northeastern moderate Republican at the same time, because the latter are the epitome of the “establishment” that the base is so angry at. But it ‘s interesting that since Trump has the nomination locked up, many people are all but admitting that he’s been lying to socons all along.”

    I could care less if he is an ally of the evangelical wing of the party. Stupid Christians have harmed the party more than helped it over the last fifty years. Trump is different from the establishment because he is both staunchly against illegal immigration, does not really care about running peoples’ personal lives (ie abortion, gays) and is for a non-interventionist foreign policy. That is an extremely powerful combination in politics. It is a winning combination in politics. As for abortion, I also think that it is morally repugnant but unfortunately it is necessary to control the underclass population. If we had restricted immigration in this country like we did 100 years ago then we wouldn’t need abortion in the first place. You can thank people like Ted Kennedy, the establishment of both parties and stupid TrueCon Christians for that. The Democrats have done nothing to stop immigration because they want the votes, and the NeoCons did nothing because they want the cheap labor. Immigration and reckless, interventionist foreign policy are bankrupting this country. Trump is our only hope to turn back the tide.

    B.T.D.T.

    May 11, 2016 at EST am

  21. Assuming Wisconsin retains some of its LaFollette-German socialist progressive-isolationist sensibility, the following would help Trump win the state: (1) Hillary is by a wide margin the favorite of Wall Street, (2) Hilary has a history of warmongering in Libya and Syria, she voted for the Iraq War, she’s confrontational vis-a-vis Russia and a host of neocon foreign policy hawks prefer her to Trump.

    Also, of course, Hillary’s history of support for NAFTA, PNTR for China and TPP is important.

    curri

    May 11, 2016 at EST am


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