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Mass shooting at gay nightclub

I think this is most likely gay beta-male rage. In other words, the shooter is gay himself.

But the two other possibilities:

1. Right-wing gay-hating perp. I sure hope not.

2. Islamic terrorism. That would be good news for Donald Trump.

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In any event, we can be sure that the MSM will deem the killing of gays to be a much worse and more evil crime than the killing of heterosexuals.

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Whoa. According to other news sources, it’s Islamic terrorism.

But I heard nothing on CNN that’s inconsistent with gay beta-male rage.

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And NOW CNN is saying that the FBI is looking into possible ties to “radical Islamic terrorism.” Because of political correctness, they wouldn’t be reporting this unless there was significant evidence of an Islamic connection, so I guess this is indeed good news for Donald Trump.

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CNN discussing how unusual it is for Islamic terrorism to be mentioned so quickly by the FBI, so there must be very solid evidence of Islamic terrorism. There may have been some negotiation with the terrorist before he was killed by police where he let on his Islamic beliefs.

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“The gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.”

And the death toll is now up to 50.

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50 dead makes this the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, and excluding plane crashes, the second biggest terrorist attack after the Oklahoma bombing.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

June 12, 2016 at 7:47 am

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  1. Drudge is reporting the assailant was an Islamic terrorist.


    June 12, 2016 at 7:57 am

    • Muslim slaughters gays. And yet……

      ….this crime is going to fit the PC narrative –

      victims = gays, innocent muslims, immigrants, anti gun people.

      villains = White men who are anti gay, anti muslim, anti immigrant, pro gun, pro Trump.


      June 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm

  2. Are there gay beta males? Seems like every gay man gets an insane amount of action.


    June 12, 2016 at 8:02 am

    • Yes, there are gay beta males. You only see the hot ones in action. In fact someone put something up on the net called “It doesn’t get better” depicting the plight of the gay guy who is not especially attractive, after age 30. He killed himself.

      I think this terrorist was a closet case. That doesn’t rule out Islamic terrorism. It was both. He was a Muslim who hated the fact he was gay, and acted out as rage-filled Muslim men do.


      June 12, 2016 at 11:51 am

      • I turned out to be right! Gloat, gloat, gloat.


        June 13, 2016 at 10:45 pm

  3. so the nightclub put up a Facebook post telling everyone to get out???

    no wonder the terrorists hate us

    Lion of the Turambar

    June 12, 2016 at 8:54 am

  4. The shooter was an Afghan, and ISIS is gloating about it:

    Terrific news for the Trump campaign, for better or for worse.


    June 12, 2016 at 9:34 am

  5. The LGBTQ community is sweet on other marginalized groups, such as Muslims. I doubt this cold-blooded atrocity will weaken that love. They’ll find a way to blame it on Trump. Trump created the climate of hate that made the Muslim go off is rocker.

    Mark Caplan

    June 12, 2016 at 9:44 am

    • Fanatical right wing religious type shot up the place with long guns in a case of home grown terrorism inspired by the current climate of hate speech from irresponsible leaders.

      I see from Althouse that on the club Facebook feed that people are already questioning why the club wasnt a Gun Free Zone. So the problem has been identified.

      Lion of the Turambar

      June 12, 2016 at 10:06 am

    • Right, twitter is already full of “let’s get rid of guns,” etc. We should also get rid of suicide vests & the guys/gals who wear them, no?


      June 12, 2016 at 11:52 am

    • NYT commenters blame it on “right wing” opposition to gun restriction and say the Muslim part is incidental and would be addressed by gun control laws.


      June 12, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    • It’s just one person but I know a gay guy who was a staunch Bernie Sanders supporter who is now all over Facebook praising Trump and his Muslim ban due to this shooting. I always had a feeling he would eventually get behind Trump. He is Italian and other than his gayness fits the profile of someone who would love Trump.

      Jay Fink

      June 12, 2016 at 1:20 pm

      • He is Italian and other than his gayness fits the profile of someone who would love Trump.

        I suspect that the majority of the Italian jokers on “Jersey Shore” are gay.

        E. Rekshun

        June 12, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    • If only we had gun control laws as strict as those of France.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      June 12, 2016 at 1:30 pm

  6. If this character was born in the US all the talk from the media and Democrats will be about America’s plague of homophobia and easy access to guns. They will call for gun control and legislation to prohibit hate speech.


    June 12, 2016 at 9:51 am

    • Yes, as soon as I saw it was the deadliest shooting in US history I knew liberals would make this all about gun control. That and “right-wing religious zealotry.”


      June 12, 2016 at 11:11 am

      • Yes it comes down to the media defining this as either a “mass shooting” or a terrorist attack. It looks like they’ve already made the choice and will try to steer the discussion about easy access to guns ect…although as a licensed security guard, he was authorized to purchase those weapons and I don’t think any of the proposed gun laws would have made a difference….not that they ever would anyway.

        Mike Street Station

        June 12, 2016 at 3:11 pm

  7. One swing state down.

    Before this election is over Hillary might be calling for a ban on Muslim immigrants.


    June 12, 2016 at 9:57 am

  8. While I’m against shooting up gay night clubs, the reality is that only Muslims seem to be willing to aggressively take it to the Left.

    Otis the Sweaty

    June 12, 2016 at 10:37 am

    • What irony. Liberals love Islam yet Muslim’s hate cultural liberal values. They will still vote Democrat though.

      Jay Fink

      June 12, 2016 at 1:25 pm

      • America is a disparate nation with all kinds of loonies and agendas.

        If our gov’t admits the fact that our nation is really a flea market, and not a nation with an identity, all our of problems with disappear in matter of weeks.


        June 12, 2016 at 3:54 pm

      • And thinking back, after an encounter with Occupy Wall Street years back, the entire movement was made up of everyone with different agendas, hence the failure of the Disunited States of America (call it the DSA from now on).


        June 12, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    • Omar Mateen is a hero. He’s putting the heterophobic GayKK back in the closet one bullet at a time.

      Je suis Omar Mateen!


      June 13, 2016 at 4:47 pm

  9. Some sites are saying 50 dead… what a tragedy… ugh..


    June 12, 2016 at 10:49 am

  10. Just call beta rage, omega male rage by its acronym: OMR

    Anyone who has OMR in the likes of Elliot Rodgers and George Sodini (a guido with a surname that sounds like a magician), needs to be monitored.

    But America is a toxic place, even the sanest person loses their cool eventually.


    June 12, 2016 at 10:58 am

  11. I really hope it comes out that he’s got all kinds of stuff saying “homosexuality is a crime against Islam” and so forth, so the stupid Progs wake up that Islam is violently opposed to their entire agenda. This is one of those real coalition-of-the-fringes (to quote Sailer) moments: who do you blame when one beloved “victim” group shoots up another beloved “victim” group? Progs heads are exploding all across the fruity plain.


    June 12, 2016 at 11:00 am

    • The progs just need to take a page from JS’s book (see above): America is a toxic place because of white males, their Christianity and neoliberalism drive everybody crazy eventually, victim groups like Muslims and blacks first.


      June 12, 2016 at 11:12 am

    • Stupid progs will always stay stupid, but maybe a few thoughtful people in the middle might finally get their eyes opened. This is absolutely horrible.


      June 12, 2016 at 11:53 am

    • Prog heads never explode from the contradiction, because logic never penetrates a millimeter into their addled brains.

      Some Guy

      June 12, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    • he saw two men kiss and that set him off according to his dad:

      “We were in downtown Miami, Bayside, people were playing music. And he saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry,” Seddique told NBC. “They were kissing each other and touching each other and he said, ‘Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.’ And then we were in the men’s bathroom and men were kissing each other.”


      June 12, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      • Funny because guys kiss all the time in Muslim world. I think it’s kind of gross too but I just avert my eyes.


        June 12, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    • Their ideology is impervious to evidence. They’ll blame this massacre on the lack of gun control and right wing, gun-nut culture and talk radio and white trash and the angry patriarchy and Donald Trump and non-gender-fluid restrooms, and go to bed just as pleased with themselves as always.

      ice hole

      June 12, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    • “This is one of those real coalition-of-the-fringes (to quote Sailer) moments: who do you blame when one beloved “victim” group shoots up another beloved “victim” group?”

      You blame somebody else. This hasn’t really been a crisis of conscience moment for the left, because they’re used to blaming the NRA when one oppressed minority shoots another oppressed minority.


      June 12, 2016 at 2:13 pm

      • Right. They keep the coalition of the fringes together by always blaming someone outside the coalition. I was on political forums today and watched the talking points evolve from “probably a homophobe white male” to it’s the fault of “religion.” and guns of course…always guns.

        Mike Street Station

        June 12, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    • Reddit mods are censoring nearly every comment on the Orlando megathread.


      June 12, 2016 at 3:18 pm

  12. And the next president of the united state of America is
    Donald trump!


    June 12, 2016 at 11:33 am

  13. Holy moly – go over to Conservative Treehouse. ISIS warned Florida three days ago.


    June 12, 2016 at 11:56 am

  14. Gay men generally don’t develop Beta rage. They can go to the nearest bathhouse, download a sex app, visit a gay club etc and easily get laid in their younger years. The average gay man can rack up shocking numbers of anonymous sex partners in the run of a year. Women may not find certain races appealing as sex partners, yet gay men love variety and have little standards for hookups. Notice how happy, easygoing and carefree an Asian gay male is compared to his straight counterpart? Gays major problem is the hedonism of the easy sex lifestyle, and the inability to find actual love beyond sex.


    June 12, 2016 at 12:13 pm

  15. Today more than ever we need to show solidarity and support for our beleaguered Muslim brothers. Since February 1st is already World Hijab Day, let’s declare July 1st World Suicide Vest Day. Everyone in the world will don a suicide vest to show the haters and the stigmatizers they cannot win.

    Mark Caplan

    June 12, 2016 at 12:25 pm

  16. His father said, “his son got very angry when he saw two men kissing in downtown Miami.” That sounds consistent with closeted gay beta male rage.


    June 12, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    • Over the top PDA is obnoxious regardless of who it is. Gay men are disordered to begin with though, so they often do this just for titillation / shock (see any gay pride event). Keep it behind closed doors.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      June 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm

  17. This news came long just as your blog had “run it course.” #secondwind


    June 12, 2016 at 12:43 pm

  18. If you’re looking for beta male rage in Orlando, there was another shooting last night. An unattractive white male named Kevin Loible shot 22-year-old Christina Grimmie from The Voice after a concert whIle she was signing autographs.

    Sheila Tone

    June 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    • Call it OMR = Omega Male Rage, which is the proper term. The acronym sounds a lot better than beta male rage.


      June 12, 2016 at 7:55 pm

  19. The shooter had said that he was angry that he saw two men kissing. The cognitive dissonance of liberal SJW support for both gays AND Muslims just reached it’s thousand decibel crescendo. Lefties have tried to sweep Muslim gay hatred, like stonings etc., under the rug and have been able to ignore happenings overseas, but this largest mass shooting in U.S. history slightly collapses that insane narrative.


    June 12, 2016 at 12:52 pm

  20. NYT WP CNN etc. already spinning it as a gun tragedy, or an LGBT tragedy, but ignoring the obvious Islamic terror angle. Which I think is great, as it will expose their traitorous cowardice to mainstream Americans who somehow weren’t aware of it yet. This day will serve as a key inflection point, I think, in accelerating the shift away from SJW/BLM/SWPL to reality-based reality. And the sooner the better. #noyoucantridewithme

    Sketch Wilson

    June 12, 2016 at 1:02 pm

  21. Some people are going to say that we cannot blame immigrants, because the shooter was born in Florida.

    My conclusion is just the opposition. The first generation is not being assimilated.


    June 12, 2016 at 1:12 pm

  22. It’s another one of those days to stay the hell away from Facebook to avoid the “I got the feeeelllllls!” one-upmanship that’s breaking out. I swear, status signaling post-death/post-tragedy Facebook postings must be as potent a narcotic as heroin. Somebody needs to study this.


    June 12, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    • Especially when you consider that FB’s algorithms mean that based on your likes, status updates, etc… they can guess your political leanings and will feed you only the news you want to consume. It’s an echo chamber that’s more addictive than any drug imaginable.

      Bilbo Baggins

      June 12, 2016 at 7:30 pm

  23. If I tweeted about such things, I’d tweet something like: “What % of those killed in Orlando were rabid open borders supporters?”


    June 12, 2016 at 1:26 pm

  24. At least he was a high-income immigrant who paid tens of thousands of dollars more in taxes than he took in social services.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    June 12, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    • At least he was a high-income immigrant who paid tens of thousands of dollars more in taxes than he took in social services.

      Huh? Mateen was merely a security guard pushing 30 y/o, earning, what, $10 per hour.

      E. Rekshun

      June 12, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    • ^ Oh, ok, I get it. Nevermind.

      E. Rekshun

      June 12, 2016 at 6:06 pm

  25. “2. Islamic terrorism. That would be good news for Donald Trump.”

    Come on man. Wtf? Let the bodies chill a little first.


    June 12, 2016 at 1:45 pm

  26. “The gunman has been identified as Omar Mateen, a U.S. citizen from Port St. Lucie. Mateen was born to Afghan parents in 1986.”


    “Christian,” is trending on twitter with morons saying opposition to lgbtqy38s=2 demands are causing gays to be murdered by non-Christians. I’m staying off twitter the rest of the day


    June 12, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    • Back then stupid right-wingers thought Afghan refugees were fine because they were “our guys” who loved us for helping them against the Soviets.


      June 13, 2016 at 7:05 am

      • Very true. It was based on complete and utter ignorance of what people believe and how they behave. A 7th century throat slitter is capable of fighting the Soviets; however he’s not capable of developing or living in a modern society. Nor does he want to.

        Lewis Medlock

        June 13, 2016 at 12:13 pm

  27. NBC news is reporting that Omar Mateen’s father says his son became very angry after seeing two men kissing in Miami. The father says the shooting “had nothing to do with religion.”

    In Islam homosexuality is considered a sin and many Islamic countries have the death penalty for it. In spite of this, male homosexuality in private is tolerated in most Islamic countries. There is a long tradition of homoerotic Arab/Muslim art and literature. Strict Islamic countries enforce separation of men and women. Many young men in these societies experiment in private with homosexual acts because they are never allowed to meet women.

    Officially Islam seems to be more homophobic than fundamentalist Christian churches, but unofficially it seems to be more tolerant of private homosexual acts. Public displays of homosexual affection would not be tolerated in almost any Islamic country.

    My impression so far is Omar was motivated by homophobia in his selection of a target. That homophobia may have been encouraged by reading or listening to some fundamentalist Islamic teaching. He also may have been encouraged by ISIS calls for terrorist attacks to take out his anger at homosexuals by a terrorist attack.

    Don’t forget that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson claimed the 9/11 attack was god’s revenge for tolerating homosexuality and abortion.


    June 12, 2016 at 1:57 pm

  28. Omar’s dad is a Taliban supporter

    Both of Mateen’s parents are originally from Afghanistan, according to CBS News.

    Mateen was born in New York. His father, Seddique Mateen, who has also been called Mir Seddique, once tried to run for the Afghan presidency and was heavily involved in politics, according to his Facbeook page, which includes photos inside a U.S. State Department office. He has also spoken out against the Pakistani government, and supported the Taliban.

    “Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up,” he said in one YouTube video, according to the Washington Post. “Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon.”

    Nedd Ludd

    June 12, 2016 at 3:01 pm

  29. ….the second biggest terrorist attack after the Oklahoma bombing.

    That little incident in Sept back in 2001 was pretty bad as well.

    I’m pro-Trump and and anti SJW but even I don’t want to see this being used for any pro Trump agenda.

    Don’t mimic the left when bad things happens that might favor your agenda.

    Don’t forget that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson claimed the 9/11 attack was god’s revenge for tolerating homosexuality and abortion.

    Didn’t Robertson also claim a hurricane hit Florida as punishment for Gay Day at Disneyworld?


    June 12, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    • “Don’t mimic the left when bad things happens that might favor your agenda.”

      With an attitude like that, the left will always win because they will play dirty and not be countered by the right.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      June 12, 2016 at 3:20 pm

      • I understand but I’d rather attack the left’s creepy, manipulative, dishonest ways than imitate them from the other side.

        The truth of this case should be detailed, it’s muslim motivation recognized.

        But most muslims aren’t in agreement with this criminality and many Christians, Jews, non religious are also sickened by male homosexuality and liberal PC attitudes toward it as well.

        A right wing Christian guy could do this as well just as some have done to abortion clinics but very few Christians support that kind of criminal violence.

        I know the left would try to exploit it if this was “Right Wing Hate” but I don’t want to mimic them that’s all.


        June 12, 2016 at 3:28 pm

      • Most Muslims aren’t in agreement with this kind of thing, but if they don’t see any backlash from harboring this kind of people then there is no social incentive against it. “Giving your mother & father a bad name” is a real thing. If you start acting like someone who gives others a bad name, thus hurting them, then those people have an incentive to enforce correct and socially positive behavior. The cult of non-judgementalism against minorities & women has removed this important feedback loop and allowed the Muslim community to become immune to corrective social pressures that would influence them to renounce this kind of behavior.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        June 12, 2016 at 5:47 pm

      • most muslims aren’t in agreement with this criminality

        Who cares? Even if only 1% of US Muslims are “in agreement” with it, that means we have imported tens of thousands of people prepared to commit mass murder, with more arriving every day. That is a powerful, dangerous force. (And who knows how many of the remaining 99% are willing to provide some form of support to the 1% even if they aren’t ready to pull triggers themselves.)


        June 13, 2016 at 7:40 am

    • THIS IS WAR. Everything goes.

      50 Hillary supporters were killed by a member of group that they were trying to flood the country with more of. Let’s reserve our sympathy for the 100’s of millions of Americans who are suffering from immigration, not Hilbots getting some blowback.

      I agree we should not use this to bash Islam but we should use it to bash Muslim immigration. Islam is great, it just needs to stay in Islamic countries.

      Otis the Sweaty

      June 12, 2016 at 4:38 pm

      • Actually, it was 51. The shooter was registered as a democrat.

        Half Canadian

        June 12, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    • The Trump agenda is national survival. The Hillary agenda is continued national suicide. This attack perfectly shows why this is so. Trump should have no hesitation at all about saying “told you a ban on Muslim immigration is needed” – especially because the Left says this idea is racist and harmful.


      June 13, 2016 at 7:32 am

      • “The Trump agenda is national survival.”

        The Trump agenda or something akin to it is needed to save Western civilization from the stranglehold of political correctness. Unless this stranglehold is broken Western civilization is finished.

        Lewis Medlock

        June 13, 2016 at 12:06 pm

  30. Did Obama cry? I can’t bring myself to look at him anymore.


    June 12, 2016 at 6:19 pm

  31. The big orc, spear in hand, leapt after him. But the tracker, springing behind a stone, put an arrow in his eye as he ran up, and he fell with a crash. The other ran off across the valley and disappeared.

    For a while the hobbits sat in silence. At length Sam stirred. “Well I call that neat as neat,” he said. “If this nice friendliness would spread about in Mordor, half our trouble would be over.”

    “Quietly, Sam,” Frodo whispered. “There may be others about. We have evidently had a very narrow escape, and the hunt was hotter on our tracks than we guessed. But that is the spirit of Mordor, Sam; and it has spread to every corner of it. Orcs have always behaved like that, or so all tales say, when they are on their own. But you can’t get much hope out of it. They hate us far more, altogether and all the time. If those two had seen us, they would have dropped all their quarrel until we were dead.”

    Oswald Spengler

    June 12, 2016 at 6:44 pm

  32. Je suis Omar Mateen!


    June 13, 2016 at 4:44 pm

  33. It appears that the shooter Omar Mateen hated a certain demographic. Yet it seemed like he killed mostly gay Hispanics – the Caribbean, Puerto Rican, Dominicano types….Strange!


    June 13, 2016 at 7:28 pm

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