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It’s officially Mike Pence

Good for Trump, it would have been pretty scummy of him to change his mind at the last minute.

It doesn’t matter what Pence said about immigration years ago, he’s a politician who plays ball with whatever is popular with the voters in order to get elected. If Trump wins this election, you will suddenly see a lot of Republican politicians adopting Trumpist views. That’s why it’s so important for Trump to win. A loss for Trump will be taken as a repudiation of everything he stands for and everything will go back to more more more immigrants.

You will know if Mike Pence was a successful pick if the following two conditions are met:

1. A significant percentage of conservative-Repubublican #NeverTrumpers go away and stop sabotaging Trump.
2. Pence doesn’t do anything between now and November 8th that causes a negative reaction in the voting public. But Pence looks like the kind of guy who knows how to keep his mouth shut and not make any gaffes. I hope I am right about that.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Well, with an establishment guy like Pence at #2, I really fear for Trump’s safety. There is so much hate out there I hope he stays safe.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  2. Yep, hoping for boring and bland and for him to do a lot of: “What he (Trump) said.”

    Andrew E.

    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  3. Best case scenario he’s Biden-lite, a nonfactor who’s never in the news. Although i don’t see Pence doing as well in the useless VP debate as Biden, regardless of who he’s up against.

    G VIC

    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  4. So what is his reply going to be when people dig up all the comments he’s made criticizing trump and his positions? People have been making fun of him for how stupid and unprepared he looked when he had to defend Indiana’s religious exemption discrimination law which presumably he actually supported.

    And what is good about him? He would not be a good president if Trump dies because he’s a typical establishment conservative. He doesn’t seem to have the Washington connections that would help Trump work with congress. What does he have going for him besides being from Indiana (where supposedly he isn’t even very popular)?

    Its not a defense to compare him to Biden. Yes Obama got elected but he’s been very ineffectual. The hope of Trump is that he effects some permanent political realignment not just that he gets a bunch of supreme court picks.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

    • I think it’s a problem that he condemned the idea of a ban on Muslim immigration. Clinton will use that to attack Trump.


      July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

      • Pence could say, yeah that was before Brussels, before Orlando, Istanbul, Nice. Clearly I was wrong and Trump is right.

        Andrew E.

        July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

      • I guess that might work. But he would have to be convincing about it.


        July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

    • Why are Pence’s previous statements even an issue? Sanders spent months calling Hillary unsuited for the Presidency and a servant of big banks. Now he’s all aboard the Hillary express. I’m sure Pence will come up with a few stock answers for the obligatory stupid media questions.

      Mike Street Station

      July 16, 2016 at EDT pm

  5. cnn is saying the trump kids have been pushing pence for weeks. they didn’t explain why. they also said this woman kellyanne conway (who i’ve seen on tv defending trump) knows pence well and pushed trump to select him. she worked for cruz, and is plugged in with super pacs.

    trump’s biggest problem is converting #nevertrump, not appealing to dnc voters, so it appears that’s the goal.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  6. Someone needs to start demanding apologies for being those who promoted the error of diversity.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  7. The reason why Trump/Pence sounds familiar is because it sounds like Hartpence, which was Gary Hart’s last name until he was 24.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

    • MEH 0910

      July 16, 2016 at EDT am

  8. Pence is Irish, which might explain why he’s a bit of a dullard and barely got into law school and hated it:

    He seems like the type that would normally just be a cop but ended up in law school because of the expansion of college and higher education after WW2.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

    • “Pence is Irish, which might explain why he’s a bit of a dullard”

      Perhaps, but one thing that stands out from that part of his Wikipedia page is the fact that his father “ran a string of gas stations.” Whether he owned them or managed them for someone else isn’t an answer you get from the references that were cited.

      As a sort-of Irish person, I’ve noticed that extended Irish American families tend to be solidly middle/upper middle class or solidly prole . . . although middle/upper middle class families who maintain Irish last names are almost never 100% Irish, while prole Irish families often times are.

      It seems to me like higher-IQ Irish Americans have blended in with the rest of the European American population while Irish proles have been left to their own devices. They tend to live in places like the real life Fishtown that Charles Murray wrote about in Coming Apart.

      . . . and now that I’m reading about Pence’s wife, who was an elementary school teacher, it seems like he didn’t marry up and I wouldn’t be surprised if his children suffer from prole drift.

      Horace Pinker

      July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  9. It’s not what Pence said years ago, it’s what he said in December.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  10. Regarding conditions #1. NeverTrumps won’t go away because it’s being funded by billionaires who realize a Trump win would wreck their agenda. They don’t want other politicians adopting Trumpism. So they’re trying to sabotage him. NeverTrumps are foolishly allowing themselves to be manipulated by special interests.


    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

  11. I hope Pence is sharper than Scott Walker. It would be nice if he can keep the gaffes to a minimum.

    Lewis Medlock

    July 15, 2016 at EDT pm

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