Lion of the Blogosphere

Military coup in Turkey!

Developing story.

If it happens, it’s good news for the United States, and Obama is going to hate it because Obama hates America.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 15, 2016 at 5:17 pm

Posted in Uncategorized

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  1. The perfect end for the perfect week.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 15, 2016 at 5:19 pm

  2. Hope they restore Atatürk’s secularism as state ideology and that an El-Sisi-like leader emerges.

    HBDfan

    July 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

  3. As soon as I heard about it, I knew you’d be commenting on it.

    Dammit to the seventh dungeon of Hades, it isn’t supposed to work this way! Coups are supposed to be taking place *against* the wicked secularists, *by* righteous traditionalists, not the other way around!

    I know it’s more complicated than that in Turkey, both because of the history of Kemalism, and because of the touchy situation right now vis-à-vis Syria, but I prefer to think of it in black-and-white.

    Obama is going to hate it

    Hrm. Going to be awfully hard to figure out who the good guy is.

    Samson J.

    July 15, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    • Dammit to the seventh dungeon of Hades, it isn’t supposed to work this way! Coups are supposed to be taking place *against* the wicked secularists, *by* righteous traditionalists, not the other way around!

      Secularists, or what passes for it, are the best leadership that can be hoped for in the Middle East.

      Gadhaffi was more secular than the ISIS warlords who have carved up Libya; do you doubt everyone was better off with him and his glamorous African robes in power rather thanLibyan ‘traditionalists’?

      I know it’s more complicated than that in Turkey, both because of the history of Kemalism, and because of the touchy situation right now vis-à-vis Syria, but I prefer to think of it in black-and-white.

      During the Cold War Turkey, under either direct military rule or with the military looking carefully over the elected government’s shoulder, was one of the most consistently pro-NATO states of any Middle Eastern nation. Meanwhile, Erdogan and his family were very chummy with ISIS, at least until ISIS struck their airport.

      History says the Turkish army is the least bad option.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    • There is no universal brotherhood of traditionalists across civilizations. The traditional form of relations between Christian and Muslim societies is unceasing aggressive war on the part of Muslims, followed by various forms of persecution, taxation, and slavery on the conquered Christians, to a degree not yet imposed by any non-Communist secular Western society.

      It is not a contradiction to say that Muslim traditionalism is bad for all Westerners, traditionalist or not.

      Wency

      July 15, 2016 at 7:17 pm

  4. Much success to them. Hope Erdogan’s body end up swinging. 😉

    gothamette

    July 15, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    • Get your headscarf on, woman.

      Samson J.

      July 15, 2016 at 5:28 pm

      • No, the Turkish military is the force for secularization. I think you have your directions confused, sonny.

        gothamette

        July 15, 2016 at 6:22 pm

  5. Now, I certainly know better than to trust anything from the CBC, but the CBC’s subtitle on the story is: Turkish military says armed forces have “fully seized control” of the country to protect the democratic order and maintain human rights.

    “Maintain human rights.” Uh-huh. Why exactly do you think Obama would hate that, Lion? In 21st-century parlance, it smacks of trying to create a Sodom-on-the-Bosporus.

    Samson J.

    July 15, 2016 at 5:26 pm

  6. Here’s hoping for full-on civil war leading to tanks on the plains of Megiddo!

    Samson J.

    July 15, 2016 at 5:33 pm

  7. Good for Turkey. Attaurk was a good leader. When in France as a military attaché, he wrote in his diary: ‘Women work here. This gives Europe double the work force. How can Turkey win against it?’. Smart guy. Good luck to them, gonna be rough either way.

    Yakov

    July 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

  8. Turkey needs to be more like France and less like Pakistan. That way lies civilization.

    Anthony

    July 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

  9. IF the coup is successful, I’m more curious as to how Trump views it than what Obama thinks.

    Mike Street Station

    July 15, 2016 at 6:42 pm

  10. This is going to cause civil war. The people of Turkey support Erdogan and will not take this lying down.

    Otis the Sweaty

    July 15, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    • Yep. Either the Kemalists will lose nerve and end up in prison, or Turkey is going to be another Syria for the foreseeable future.

      Richard

      July 15, 2016 at 7:45 pm

  11. Unless you want greater confrontation with Russia, why is this a good thing? The whole point of the coup is to put a military in charge that is more aligned with the US and NATO against Russia. Turkey is to the US and NATO what Cuba was to the USSR, but with a bigger and better military. It hosted nukes directed at the USSR. The US and NATO want Turkey back to being a bulwark in order to challenge Russia, and Erdogan was too independent.

    Tom

    July 15, 2016 at 7:09 pm

    • Why would Russia having fewer allies, if that were the outcome, be a bad thing for us?

      Perturabo

      July 15, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    • Unless you want greater confrontation with Russia, why is this a good thing?

      I thought Erdogan and Putin disliked each other?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 15, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    • The Turkish airforce under Erdogan shot down a Russian warplane because Russia was attacking anti-Assad ISIS forces that are backed by Erdogan’s government. Putin would most likely count the elimination of a government hostile to Russia’s Syrian ally, Assad, as a win for Russia not a loss.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm


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