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Trump and the proles

Donald Trump, Jr. devoted a great deal of his speech to explaining his father’s relationship with his prole workers, and this sheds a lot of light onto something I’ve previously observed, which is that Donald Trump acts very prole.

You want to know what kind of president he’ll be? Let me tell you how he ran his businesses, and I know because I was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time I could walk.

He didn’t hide out behind some desk in an executive suite, he spent his career with regular Americans. He hung out with the guys on construction sites pouring concrete and hanging sheetrock. He listened to them and he valued their opinions as much and often more than the guys from Harvard and Wharton locked away in offices away from the real work.

He’s recognized the talent and the drive that all Americans have. He’s promoted people based on their character, their street smarts and their work ethic, not simply paper or credentials. To this day, many of the top executives in our company are individuals that started out in positions that were blue collar, but he saw something in them and he pushed them to succeed.

His true gift as a leader is that he sees the potential in people that they don’t even see in themselves…

…the potential that other executives would overlook because their resumes don’t include the names of fancy colleges and degrees.

I know he values those workers and those qualities in people because those are the individuals he had my siblings and me work under when we started out. That he would trust his own children’s formative years to these men and women says all you need to know about Donald Trump.

We didn’t learn from MBAs, we learned from people who had doctorates in common sense.

Guys like Vinnie Stellio, who taught us how to drive heavy equipment, operate tractors and chainsaws, who worked his way through the ranks to become a trusted adviser of my father. It’s why we’re the only children of billionaires as comfortable in a D10 Caterpillar as we are in our own cars.

My father knew that those were the guys and gals that would teach us the dignity of hard work from a very young age. He knows that at that heart of the American dream is the idea that whoever we are, wherever we’re from we can get ahead, where everyone can prosper together.

Which way goes the cause and effect? Is Trump prole because he hangs out with his blue-collar workers and their proleness rubs off on him? Or does Trump hang out with his blue-collar workers because he’s prole?

When Trump, Sr. speaks unscripted and un-telepromptered at his campaign rallies, he speaks the way that blue-collar white concrete pourers and sheetrock hangers would talk to each other on their lunch break. And this is why the elites hate Donald Trump, Sr., because the elites hate white proles. The adjectives they assign to Trump, Sr. like “racist,” “misogynist,” “xenophobic,” “narcissistic,” “autocratic,” are politically correct ways that the elites slam prole-white speaking patterns. But when prole whites see Trump speak, instead of seeing the evil that elites see, they merely see someone who sounds just like themselves, someone they can relate to. Unfortunately for elites, the proles far outnumber the elites at the voting booths. As Trump, Sr. might say, it’s not even close.

It should be noted that the same elites who hate the way that white proles speak have only fondness for the much lower-class speech patterns of ghetto blacks, which are attributed one-part to a black vernacular that it would be racist to object to, one-part to justified black anger at pervasive white racism, and one-part to the failure of the educational system which in turn is blamed on evil Republicans who are too cheap and too racist to properly fund the public schools.

(The Republicans have their own explanation for the educational situation, which they blame on teachers’ unions, lack of school choice, etc. Neither Republicans nor Democrats attribute the least bit of significance to blacks having different genes than whites.)

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Tarl wrote a good comment:

Unfortunately for elites, the proles far outnumber the elites at the voting booths.

That is certainly true but I’d be interested to know the relative number of proles versus upper middle class white suburbanites. The latter group is overwhelmingly common where I live. All those people are not “elite” but they aspire to eliteness and ape their mannerisms including that they hate, hate, hate white proles.

(Unless having a $500k split level in suburbia makes you “elite”, which I don’t think it does. It certainly makes you a Democrat but I am at a loss to understand what advantage being a Democrat gives them other than the ability to bask in self-indulgent moral preening.)

Tarl correctly observes a phenomenon, and it’s a phenomenon that benefits the elite liberals and endangers the chance of Trumpism winning in November. Proles still outnumber the affluent but non-elite white suburbanites, but those affluent white surburbanites are definitely a real force at the voting booths.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 20, 2016 at 1:24 pm

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  1. Again, Trump is an anomaly, because his kids aren’t the same type of kids, that one finds with the other Republicans, who tend to be prole in dress and manner.

    They are sophisticated Manhattanites, and they associate with wealthy Manhattan Jews and other elite Manhattanites.

    Trump Jr. supports his dad, because he depends on him.

    I’m willing to bet many of his friends/neighbors/clients are Masters of the Universe types, value transference parasites, who share a similar lifestyle.

    America is a land of hypocrisy. No one in America, becomes a billionaire, solely from sweat and tears.

    JS

    July 20, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    • Js is right trump kids are definitely not prole
      So maybe it wasent so effective to have them make the prole case for him?
      But who else then to do it

      Joseph

      July 20, 2016 at 11:39 pm

      • Nobody, but proles themselves.

        My view is that a Trump’s presidency will allow him and his family to expand their businesses globally, sort of like Cheney and Haliburton, and our corrupt politicos who rigged the system to their favor.

        Elites have enough ammo, or the police state, to keep every troublemaker in line.

        Welcome to a Feudal America, better yet, Meriprolestan becomes Fascistastan!

        JS

        July 21, 2016 at 11:00 am

  2. Supposedly the elites used to think it was a good thing to mingle with proles – this was considered one of the advantages of the WW2 draftee army, which forced the elites and proles together to solve a common problem.

    Tarl

    July 20, 2016 at 1:48 pm

  3. And the reason why there is so much income inequality in America. Blame the business schools that groom value transference personalities, and our culture of parasitism.

    Women who find Trump Jr. attractive, aren’t into him, because Guido, Vinnie Stellio taught him the value of hard labor!

    JS

    July 20, 2016 at 1:49 pm

  4. I’m a prole doctor. I was corrected by a younger elite physician after I explained the patient was homeless. “He is undomiciled, undomiciled, undomiciled.”

    jz

    July 20, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    • That’s when you hit him with the Pulp Fiction quote:

      Undomiciled? You mean those pieces of shit out there who beg for change? They walk around like a bunch of fuckin’ zombies, they sleep in garbage bins, they eat what I throw away, and dogs piss on ’em. They got a word for ’em, they’re called bums. And without a job, residence, or legal tender, what you are is a fuckin’ bum!

      Tarl

      July 20, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    • I’m a prole doctor.

      Interesting – I wondered if I was one as well. I spent some considerable amount of time trying to figure out if such a thing even exists, and decided that it does, but I’m not strictly sure I qualify.

      Samson J.

      July 20, 2016 at 3:07 pm

  5. Unfortunately for elites, the proles far outnumber the elites at the voting booths.

    That is certainly true but I’d be interested to know the relative number of proles versus upper middle class white suburbanites. The latter group is overwhelmingly common where I live. All those people are not “elite” but they aspire to eliteness and ape their mannerisms including that they hate, hate, hate white proles.

    (Unless having a $500k split level in suburbia makes you “elite”, which I don’t think it does. It certainly makes you a Democrat but I am at a loss to understand what advantage being a Democrat gives them other than the ability to bask in self-indulgent moral preening.)

    Tarl

    July 20, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    • Trump’s children party at the Hamptons.

      What they do, is off limits to proles and the constituents who support them.

      I would be in celebratory mode, if his children spoke in front of upper middle class whites and bobo types, who want to rid America of its degenerate liberalism and NAMs in general

      Not gonna happen, not in a million years!

      JS

      July 20, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    • The greatest fear held by many white professionals is being called a racist because it can ruin their careers and social standings. These are the same type of people who never associate with blacks outside of the office and send their children to lily white schools. Voting Democrat and certain anti-racist rituals are all part of putting up a protective barrier to defend against accusations of racism.

      Aristippus

      July 20, 2016 at 2:37 pm

      • Yes, and it’s rather odd, to have Trump’s SWPL children speak in front of proles, telling them that their dad is going to make America great again.

        The same type of “SWPL” professionals who would vote for Democratic, had Trump not been their dad.

        The Republican National Convention is gathering of bumbling morons, who haven’t realized that their future and especially their children’s are pretty much dead, going forward.

        JS

        July 20, 2016 at 2:49 pm

      • The greatest fear held by many white professionals is being called a racist because it can ruin their careers and social standings

        This is true. It’s very interesting – you may have heard of the concept of the “preference cascade”, which is the supposed phenomenon where a crack in the politically-correct wall appears, and more people feel free to express their true (politically-incorrect) opinions, and pretty soon everyone realizes that everyone secretly holds the same politically-incorrect opinion.

        When it comes to white professionals, I sometimes try and probe, watching for any sign, any hint whatsoever that a “preference cascade” could possibly be triggered. But these white folks are very, very, extremely cagey about letting their true beliefs or feelings show. I find it nearly impossible to discern who is a secret crimethinker, and I think it’s because of what Aristippus suggests. Career suicide.

        Samson J.

        July 20, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      • People will instinctively believe what everyone else believes, so most SWPLs actually believe the nonsense they say the believe.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        July 20, 2016 at 4:26 pm

  6. According to Scott Adams, if voters starts to believe that Donald Trump is pure love and compassion and not a crazy racist, he’ll win. This is heading towards that. And this: http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/12239342/donald-trump-melania-plagiarism

    Melania admires a very popular lady like Michelle Obama. Good.
    Meredith McIver (the speechwriter) made a yuuuge mistake. Not so good.
    Donald Trump in his magnificence and ultimate benignity pardons her. Awww, really good.

    Manuel

    July 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    • I still don’t think it was a mistake.

      And it doesn’t even matter! It’s still a WIN!

      Tarl

      July 20, 2016 at 2:26 pm

  7. As for the question of cause vs. effect, I can only comment on my experience. I grew up with both proles and SWPLs in various branches of my family, and absorbed traits from both, but I have a deep and abiding affection for proles after having worked with them in a certain field. I became more prole-like because I had to work with them. I didn’t (and in fact don’t) seek them out because I am prole.

    I expect Trump likewise came to appreciate proles from being around them, and not the reverse.

    Samson J.

    July 20, 2016 at 3:14 pm

  8. “To this day, many of the top executives in our company are individuals that started out in positions that were blue collar, but he saw something in them and he pushed them to succeed.”

    With thinking like that, what’re our expensive college degrees worth?

    Glengarry

    July 20, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    • Pure signaling bullshit. I spent 4 years undergrad in a business/finance program at a well renowned public university. It was nothing, easy as high school, and I learned everything through the internet regardless. I learned everything I do now while on the job (consulting).

      Now if you’re talking engineering/science/math, yeah those actually make sense to go to school for. Everything else is fluff bullshit.

      Good school = pre-filtering candidates because companies can no longer use aptitude testing since it’s discriminatory. For some reason universities of course have a monopoly on being discriminatory, do you think private companies could use tests to exclude 95%+ of their black applicants?

      I hate MBAs the most, truly worthless hollow and complete transparent signaling degrees. Though it looks like companies have wised up to this, many barely pay a small premium for MBA degrees, and part time programs have become popular so if you want to move up within your company they generally prefer you do that, it’s not too wasteful and they can’t promote an employee without that MBA next to their name so it covers that.. MBA programs are just not worth it unless you can get into a T10 school.

      Kaz

      July 20, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  9. Trump reminds me of my developer grandfather. Very intelligent builder and engineer but was always out walking the jobsite and mixing with the laborers, almost never behind a desk. That type is dying in America, sadly.

    maj

    July 20, 2016 at 5:55 pm

  10. “Which way goes the cause and effect? Is Trump prole because he hangs out with his blue-collar workers and their proleness rubs off on him? Or does Trump hang out with his blue-collar workers because he’s prole?

    When Trump, Sr. speaks unscripted and un-telepromptered at his campaign rallies, he speaks the way that blue-collar white concrete pourers and sheetrock hangers would talk to each other on their lunch break. And this is why the elites hate Donald Trump, Sr., because the elites hate white proles.”

    Brother Lion, thank you for these very perceptive observations. It’s like the ol’ Lion is back. Keep drinking whatever coffee roast you had this morning.

    While I’m sure that much of Trump’s sentiment and his loyalty to his team are authentic, it’s hard to discern what might be a convenient performance for public image consumption.

    Thanks for pointing out the dynamic between the Big Man Trump and his staff. I have no doubt that respect and gratitude between both sides of the transaction is great and genuine. I’m also realizing that the charade of “equality” and a sense of parity among peers between classes and employers and employed is just a phony charade that doesn’t really fool anyone. Maybe we should reacquaint ourselves with feudalism. We may find these notions appalling as they offend our sense of equality. However it might be better than the way turbo-capitalism views people with an indifference as “human resources” to be deployed, used, consumed and disposed of in ways that a feudal lord would not do with his working livestock. The lord of the manor was just as bonded to his staff as they were to him. He cared about them as if they were perhaps relatives of his family.

    Progressive elites pay lip service to equality. In reality they pledge fealty to our 21st century version of the Cathedral consisting of academia and media. These progressive elites are very conscious of their “class-status” in the Cathedral system and are insufferable snobs about how they look down on their inferiors. The profess to be “democrats” but would happily deny the vote to the benighted folks with the “ignorance” to reject the latest popular myths about climate change or the fashions for celebrating indiscriminate recreational promiscuous sex.

    Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    July 20, 2016 at 6:45 pm

  11. What is there policywise in Donald Trump Jr’s speech that you wouldn’t hear any generic republican say? The pro prole stuff you quoted is also a cliche just one that you’re about equally likely to hear from republicans and democrats,

    Magnavox

    July 20, 2016 at 9:00 pm

  12. Unless having a $500k split level in suburbia makes you “elite”, which I don’t think it does. It certainly makes you a Democrat but I am at a loss to understand what advantage being a Democrat gives them other than the ability to bask in self-indulgent moral preening.)

    Too easy. It allows them to live a semi-segregated lifestyle while passing on the cost of multiculturalism/multi-racialism to the lower classes. a cost sometimes paid in blood. Having a 500k house DOES make you a member of the elite in most places. You become a Member of the elite when you’re able to buy yourself out of the worse aspects of “Diversity.” Not for little Julia going to school with a lot of Negroes. This upper middle class is the real traitor class in the West, they administer the war on whites as another way of escaping it and maintaining their elite status. and they get concrete advantages from that status.

    jb

    July 20, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    • Around here $525k is the median home price. To be “elite” you really need to live in one of the zip codes where the median price is $800k. In the $525k zip code you have to deal with either paying for private school or letting your kids go to school with lots of minorities.

      But you don’t have to be a Democrat to be a member of the “elite” who can avoid the worst aspects of diversity. All you have to do is make enough money to live in the right neighborhood. There is nothing that being a Democrat actually gets these upper middle class white suburbanites on a daily basis, so it’s a complete mystery to me why they are all such knee-jerk robotic conformists.

      Tarl

      July 21, 2016 at 5:45 am

  13. And how many proles will vote with the elites as part of inferiority complex or simple deference to smarter ppl? Maybe allot… can anyone make a educated guess ?

    Joseph

    July 20, 2016 at 11:32 pm


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