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Republican convention Thursday evening

Live tweets.

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12:21 AM: Too tired to write anything, you’ll have to wait until tomorrow for my thoughts.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 21, 2016 at 8:12 pm

Posted in Politics

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    • Ivanka is too feminine to pump up the crowd.

      Crowd-pumping ability is a masculine trait.

      But the speech still helps Trump a lot.


      July 22, 2016 at 2:27 am

  1. Rod Dreher at The American Conservative likes the text of Trump’s speech:

    MEH 0910

    July 21, 2016 at 9:28 pm

  2. Thiel is not the most eloquent speaker ever but he had good points and finished strong. Major props to him for dismissing the bathroom issue.

    Who would have predicted even a decade ago that a speaker at the Republican National Convention would proclaim “I am proud to be gay,” to thunderous applause?

    Jokah Macpherson

    July 21, 2016 at 9:31 pm

  3. A question: Does Peter Thiel also say “who cares?” to the cultural Left…or is it just the cultural Right? Cultural wars are a “distraction” only because he wants the right-wing side to stop fighting so American have two socially liberal parties. Having an opening gay man speak at the convention was one thing, but having some left-wing billionaire from Greenwich Village tell me I have to be a social liberal is another thing. What just happened here is that Donald Trump confirmed my worst suspicions about his intentions. Why should I believe he’ll appoint social conservatives to SCOTUS? He’s already telling me that it’s not my party anymore. I’m afraid he just lost my vote.


    July 21, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    • We never really believed we ever had it in the first place Mary.


      July 21, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    • That was not the impression I got, although admittedly I’m not always the best at reading people’s true intentions. The fact that he criticized the left over the bathroom issue but not, say, the Republicans in the NC General Assembly seems to indicate to me that the Trump Republican party isn’t just dismissing the cultural right out of hand.

      Jokah Macpherson

      July 21, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    • Maryk, you’re awesome. You were a drummer for a punk rock band, weren’t you?


      July 21, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    • I’ve never addressed you before, MK, but don’t you get that we rightwingers can’t have it all? This election is about immigration, and that is all. The two “M”‘s – muslims and mexers. If we continue to lose on those existential questions, fags are irrelevant. And if we break the left on its plan to Muslimize us, then we can start laughing at queers again. Recently I asked a SF fairy when his team is going to pay back the tens of billions we spent on AIDS research for him. He was sputteringly speechless.


      July 21, 2016 at 10:11 pm

      • I’m not interested in laughing at gays – or seeing anyone harmed or denigrated. I’ll probably vote for Trump anyway – I was just angry. But it’s clear to me that he wants a socially liberal party – and I intend to fight this every step of the way. Thiel’s implication that I owed him silence on social issues was infuriating, but totally in keeping with what the cultural Left has always believed since I was a child. I don’t want to do business with Thiel anymore. I’m really considering deleting my Paypal account, but I want to know that this won’t effectively remove my ability to purchase things on ebay. I’m looking into this.



        July 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      • Wick is right. Two thirds of immigrants vote Democrat. Therefore, immigration is the one issue that decides all the others. If we lose immigration then we lose every other issue forever. In light of that, it’s unreasonable to complain that a candidate isn’t socially conservative enough when they’re so right on the only issue that really matters. That’s my beef with the SoCons. It’s not that I disagree with their values. It’s that they’re just too damn stupid to figure such basic things out.


        July 22, 2016 at 12:34 am

    • Don’t drop your pearls on the way out.

      The reality of trying to save the country is that you have to pick your battles. Frankly, the gay lifestyle and propaganda for this mental illness in media is something that I think is damaging to society.

      Nevertheless, having a coherent society at all is dependent on stopping immigration, terrorism, and ensuring the country has an economy. We can work on stopping the pro-gay brainwashing afterwards.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      July 21, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    • I am sympathetic to you MaryK, but Trump made an explicit point of mentioning Antonin Scalia and emphasizing that Scalia is his type of judge. I am reassured. Like me, you and Lion understand that Democrats see the courts as the way to lock in power for generations. Trump is keyed into the game the Democrats play. I am confident that Trump will appoint arch conservatives who hold a strict conservative reading of the constitution. We are not going to get a Kennedy, O’Connor or Suter, or even Roberts.

      I am hoping against hope that Trump will appoint someone who is not even a lawyer or judge – there is nothing in the Constitution that mandates Supreme court justices be lawyers or judges – someone who has common sense, intelligence and life experience.

      Anyway, Trump is the best candidate for president in my lifetime. No BS.

      Go Trump.


      July 22, 2016 at 5:48 am

      • Well he made a point of mentioning to donors that he was thinking of adding another 4 names to his SCOTUS list so of course his betrayal has already started.

        Lion of the Turambar

        July 22, 2016 at 8:00 am

      • “We are not going to get a Kennedy, O’Connor or Suter, or even Roberts.”

        So then you believe Trump will appoint people to the court who are more conservative than those appointed by Reagan and both Presidents Bush? I think you’re straining to believe what you want to be true, Daniel. But I appreciate your sympathy for my situation. I’ll probably vote for Trump, but only because of the immigration issue. When he ends up being a socially liberal president (which is what I expect will happen) conservatives will finally see that they need to truly fight for control of the Republican party and not take it for granted.

        Trump is already selling out. What he said at the convention about how he was “so happy” to hear the delegates cheer for LGBT safety was absurd. Most Republicans have never wished for violence against gays. I took his comment to translate as “I’m so glad to see you can cheer for gay people. Now I can see that moving the party to the cultural Left is really going to happen.” But when you nominate a decadent plutocrat from Manhattan this is what you should expect.


        July 22, 2016 at 9:34 am

      • So then you believe Trump will appoint people to the court who are more conservative than those appointed by Reagan and both Presidents Bush?

        I absolutely think Trump will appoint more more conservative justices than those three and for very good reason — he’s the only conservative of the bunch. No one in their right mind would consider Bush 41 a conservative. Bush 43 was an evangelical obsessed with abortion. Otherwise, there wasn’t anything conservative about him, either. And, finally, Reagan was a libertarian not a conservative. The difference between libertarian and conservative positions wasn’t as obvious back in the 80’s. So it went largely unnoticed. But, since then, the gap has grown tremendously.


        July 22, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    • I agree with MaryK. Thiel’s speech was a deal-breaker to me. He’s disaster. He’s a libertarian who has bought his way into the zombie Republican party. Dismissing “the bathroom issue” is as tone deaf to the reality of our culture as dismissing same-sex marriage was 20 years ago.

      Thiel is a nutcase libertarian who believes in transhumanism. He used to want to found island societies where he could put his libertarianism into practice. Instead he’s in the Republican party.


      July 22, 2016 at 8:11 am

    • “Why should I believe he’ll appoint social conservatives to SCOTUS? ”

      He shouldn’t be interested in picking people who have specific political positions on abortion or gay marriage. He should be picking originalists and strict constructionists. That’s how you get the court decisions you like. Even a gay atheist judge wouldn’t have found a right to gay marriage in the 14th Amendment unless he believed in a “living” constitution and had the judicial philosophy of if it feels good do it.

      Mike Street Station

      July 22, 2016 at 3:30 pm

  4. I liked Tom Barrack. It was a nice change of pace from all the shouting.

    Jokah Macpherson

    July 21, 2016 at 9:48 pm

  5. Minor quibble about Trump’s “Choice to work with his father in Queens or go dream big in the greatest city in the world” – is Queens not part of the same city as Manhattan?

    Jokah Macpherson

    July 21, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    • In the NYC area, “the city” means Manhattan.

      • Thanks, didn’t realize this.

        Jokah Macpherson

        July 21, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    • ‘Cause in Queens you eat refried beans…


      July 21, 2016 at 10:53 pm

  6. Ivanka saying she doesn’t self-identify as a Democrat or Republican…obviously true but probably not something you want to highlight as a headline speaker the last night of the Republican convention.

    Jokah Macpherson

    July 21, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    • The traditional Republican Party is in deep merde. Convention is Republican pretty much in name only.


      July 21, 2016 at 11:20 pm

      • >>The traditional Republican Party is in deep merde. Convention is Republican pretty much in name only.

        Good. Just as well. The traditional Republican party hasn’t done much good for this nation in decades. Pandering to chamber of commerce types, Wall Street and chasing that ever elusive Latino and Asian vote that will never give them more than 20-30% is what has gotten us into such a jam.

        I’m waiting for National Review to endorse Hillary next week.


        July 22, 2016 at 2:02 am

      • “I’m waiting for National Review to endorse Hillary next week.”

        I’m sure David French and Jonah Goldberg are working on the draft of that now.

        Mike Street Station

        July 22, 2016 at 3:32 pm

  7. Ivanka doesn’t do the raised finger thing. Male-only trait?

    Jokah Macpherson

    July 21, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  8. My initial reaction is this speech was a disaster because he was screaming the entire time. Someone talk me down from the ledge…


    July 22, 2016 at 12:07 am

    • I thought it was very good. A guy in a focus group ,who was undecided at the start of the speech, said it was the best acceptance speech he’s heard and he’s 39.


      July 22, 2016 at 12:29 am

    • Why? It was a solid speech and hit every single point on why you should vote for Trump.

      He had fire in him tonight. And it was righteous fire. Well-deserved since the ailments of America are self-inflicted wounds driven by a deranged and self-destructive ideology.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      July 22, 2016 at 12:52 am

    • Unmentionable truth bombs have to be bellowed like that so they burrow into people’s minds and can’t be ignored.

      Andrew E.

      July 22, 2016 at 1:09 am

    • Well we see why Trump and his jack booted thugs had such screaming fits when Cruz advocated people vote for candidate who support the Constitution.

      Trump didnt mention the Constitution at all, except as a passing aside as something relevant to appointees!
      The Orange Julius Caesar cant be bound by things like the Constitution- whats he point? That would only restrict his power.

      Lion of the Turambar

      July 22, 2016 at 8:41 am

  9. Trump’s speech was OK. It went on for way too long. At times it felt like a compilation of his other speeches.

    I don’t think that Trump’s speech would persuade anyone who hasn’t been persuaded, but I expect the rest of the convention persuaded a number of undecideds that Trump is a sensible man who has their interests in mind.


    July 22, 2016 at 12:09 am

    • That’s my problem with the speech tactically. As a stand-alone document, I loved it. It’s fantastic that the winner of a major party’s nomination is saying this. But I’ve been a supporter of Trump’s since June 2015. He didn’t need to scratch my itch, so a speech that was basically just a summation of everything he’d been saying over the past year doesn’t do a whole lot to expand his voter pool.

      Anybody who’s undecided at this point is a mushhead and Trump’s job last night was to lasso in the mushheads, who are much more sentimental, cowardly, and worried about tone and how others would perceive them if they voted for Trump than his base is. I think Trump should have given a speech that was more personal, that stressed his relationships with family, friends, employees and ordinary people, and which talked about building communities that were safe, loving, and fun to be in … tying in his themes, in a warm way and with lots of personal vignettes, of building infrastructure, restoring respect for laws and community standards, and leading a government that would look out for the little guy, not donors and special interests. It should have been about how fun it would be to live in a Trump world, rather than how lousy it is to live in a Clinton/Obama one. Conversational and neighborly, rather than the shouty speech he actually gave.

      I myself would gag at such a speech, but he needed to talk to the mushheads last night and the mushheads love mush.


      July 22, 2016 at 11:50 am

  10. Is anybody else noticing the utter terror this speech has caused in the Left? This is the most scared I’ve ever seen them.

    Otis the Sweaty

    July 22, 2016 at 8:20 am

    • No it does not. It was inconsistent with liberal pandering. The left will attack him for being a poser.


      July 22, 2016 at 2:02 pm

  11. I watched most of Thomas Barrack and Ivanka’s speeches. They did a good job of humanizing Trump, painting a picture of Trump very different than the public image Trump projects.

    Then Trump came out and gave his speech. It started out fine. He was reading it off a teleprompter, but his delivery was good at the beginning. As speech went on, Trump seemed to grow more and more angry. After a while he was not so much reading the speech as shouting the speech. He gradually became an angry, red faced man shouting at the camera. The complete opposite of the image Barrack and Ivanka had painted.

    Maybe this speech works for some people, but I think this speech plays right into the critiques of Trump as a would be authoritarian dictator.


    July 22, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    • Last night Trump talked about fixing the economic problems that the HBD community deems a lost cause. Namely, the violence and destruction that take place in Baltimore, Detroit, Ferguson etc…coming from the black demographic.

      He almost sounded like a Hillary Clinton in few of his statements.

      America remains a lost cause, because its citizens refuse to live up to the truth!


      July 22, 2016 at 1:53 pm

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