Lion of the Blogosphere

Looks like beta-male rage, not Islamic terrorism

Munich attack: Who was the gunman behind the shooting that shook Germany?

Sonboly has been described as a loner, who was apparently bullied for years while at school.

Officials have also said there are indications he was receiving psychiatric and medical treatment.

It’s been suggested that he was being treated for depression…

Nobody really knows yet, but it’s suspected that it was a revenge attack for his years of being bullied at school.

During the attack, Sonboly was heard shouting: ‘Because of you I was bullied for seven years.’

He also shouted ‘I’m German, fuck foreigners’ before he opened fire.

Officials told the press conference that there were materials ‘related to shootings and sprees’ in Sonboly’s room.

They found a book about shooting sprees, and some files on his computer that showed he’d been researching the attack in advance.

Sounds a lot more like Elliot Rodger than an Islamic terrorist.

People who answered “Just some guy going postal” on my quiz are the winners.

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Should we be worried about the fascist reaction by the German police when the perp was just some Elliot Rodger type who was already dead? Remember that their grandparents rounded up millions of Jews and executed them.

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Because voters are stupid, they will hear Iranian and assume it has something to do with terrorism, and will help Trump.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 23, 2016 at 7:56 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. If this was France, I would probably buy the company line, but since this is Germany, they’ve already shown a willingness to cover up Muslim shenanigans.That’s not to say that this ISN’T a beta male rage/lone wolf/he crazy attack, but if the Germans are telling me that, I’m suspicious. I’ll wait and see.

    Mike Street Station

    July 23, 2016 at 8:08 am

    • If this was France, I would probably buy the company line,

      The French government covered up details of the Bataclan attacks as well as immigrant crime rates.

      If they could hide all of the shootings under bureaucratic red tape they would do it, but not even the establishment can cover up hundreds of butchered corpses laying in the streets of Western nations.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 23, 2016 at 11:53 am

  2. For some reason I love the expression, “going postal”. The poor postal workers – is it really that bad of a job?

    Samson J.

    July 23, 2016 at 8:16 am

    • The funny thing is, the phrase became common before blacks got all the supervisory positions. I’d imagine there’s more reason to snap now.

      Wick

      July 23, 2016 at 11:42 am

  3. No, but you should be worried about the reaction by the German government and media who will blame the attack on white Germans’ racist mistreatment of the terrorist.

    IHTG

    July 23, 2016 at 8:31 am

    • Undoubtedly he was bullied by his peers, other kids from poor immigrant families.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      July 23, 2016 at 9:26 am

      • He was probably bullied by Turks, since he wasn’t a Turk. Isn’t diversity great?

        Rosenmops

        July 23, 2016 at 11:30 am

  4. If you look at pictures of him he really looks like he’s missing a chromosome or three. Of course it’s not Islamic terrorism but to what extent he more likely to be a loser and a loner because of his colourful ethnic background is open to debate. He’d certainly have been much happier living in Iran, where his family would have been able to nip down to Whore Mart to purchase him a couple of starter wives to take his frustrations out on, with weekends spent stamping on American flags with all the other retards in a square in Tehran. A simple, happy life uncluttered by the complications and burdens of life in the infidel West.

    ‘During the attack, Sonboly was heard shouting: ‘Because of you I was bullied for seven years.’

    Or perhaps he should’ve moved to America and become a policeman. He would almost certainly have ended up shooting a black man, but what the hell. He’s not white either so no-one would care.

    prolier than thou

    July 23, 2016 at 8:58 am

    • Exactly. It’s an HBD issue — it’s always an HBD issue. The future is endless retardation.

      Cryptogenic

      July 23, 2016 at 10:39 am

  5. P.S. Lion, you need to post about the DNC Leaks. Really exciting week, this is.

    IHTG

    July 23, 2016 at 9:17 am

  6. We know the Germans invite psychotics to pilot commercial passenger jets, but the Germans let psychotics buy rifles and ammo too?

    Mark Caplan

    July 23, 2016 at 10:01 am

  7. Are you fucking kidding me???

    IRANIAN

    + SHOUTED ALLAH AKBAR WHILE KILLING PEOPLE

    = TERRORISM

    The fact that he didn’t have an official ISIS identity card makes NO DIFFERENCE to this conclusion.

    Tarl

    July 23, 2016 at 10:18 am

    • Tarl–Are you fucking kidding me???

      IRANIAN

      + SHOUTED ALLAH AKBAR WHILE KILLING PEOPLE

      = TERRORISM

      I don’t think so, and if you are intending to argue with liberals I think it really matters to get all your ducks in a row and really think about what these terms mean. When you argue with liberals (perhaps anyone) it’s common for them to ask you to define these terms you use. It has to be watertight and able to cope with any example they will throw at you, because they will, and it they find inconsistency they will expose it and you will look like a hot-headed reactionary. For example, I don’t consider the white guy who shot the blacks in the church a ‘terrorist’ just another crank with a feeble justification. But if I’ve made out that his Muslim equivalent is a terrorist then I’m made to look like a hypocrite or blinded by my own partiality.

      To be a terrorist attack you have to be able to show that it has terroristic effects–that it can actually change behaviours, influence government policy, scare people into silence, make them afraid to criticise a religion or a group, to go in a certain area, etc. I would say that Nice fits that description, even if it turns out he’s mentally ill, because you can really imagine that a Muslim cleric in France could say to a University academic ‘maybe you shouldn’t print that article about Mohammad, you wouldn’t want to raise tensions after Nice would you?’ It’s clear there are other people willing to do what he did in Nice for the same reasons.

      Do you think that’s true of Munich? Could anyone say ‘you’d better not do X because there are more people like that Munich guy’? He killed brown people in a MacDonalds whilst talking gibberish about growing up on benefits. Who would there be to feel ‘my God, he really has it in for people like me, I’d better watch what I say’. It lacks an obvious rational target and he does not truly represent a constituency, simply being a Muslim isn’t enough. It’s too muddled. I don’t honestly believe blacks in America felt any more scared going to church prayer meetings after that shooting, whatever they may say. He was obviously a one-off. Same with this.

      prolier than thou

      July 23, 2016 at 11:21 am

      • Only one witness said that, and not that he “shouted” it, but was saying it more quietly. Listen to the CNN interview if you can find it on YouTube. I and think it may have been a scared Muslim patron of the McDonalds saying it, preparing to meet Allah after being gunned down, rather than the shooter saying it, and the witness (a Muslim woman herself) was confused.

    • I don’t think so, and if you are intending to argue with liberals I think it really matters to get all your ducks in a row and really think about what these terms mean.

      I have thought about it. I don’t care what liberals think. They are intellectually dishonest anyway.

      Terrorism is the use of violence in order to achieve a political, religious, or ideological aim.

      To be a terrorist attack you have to be able to show that it has terroristic effects–that it can actually change behaviours, influence government policy, scare people into silence, make them afraid to criticise a religion or a group, to go in a certain area, etc.

      NO, NO, NO. I reject this completely. The perpetrator merely has to INTEND his attack to have a political, religious, or ideological effect. If he is one guy, and his political views are loony and nobody else shares them, and he can have no possible real-world effect, then yes he is still a terrorist (see: The Unabomber).

      In addition to this, a perpetual storm of incessant “lone wolf” Muslim attacks IS going to have terroristic effects as you define them; it will change behavior, influence policy, and scare people. It does not matter that these are not officially connected to any group with specific demands that we can satisfy. Over the long term, either we will submit to Islam or we will expel or kill its believers. There is no middle ground.

      I would say that Nice fits that description, even if it turns out he’s mentally ill, because you can really imagine that a Muslim cleric in France could say to a University academic ‘maybe you shouldn’t print that article about Mohammad, you wouldn’t want to raise tensions after Nice would you?’ It’s clear there are other people willing to do what he did in Nice for the same reasons. Do you think that’s true of Munich?

      Yes, absolutely! Leftists will certainly say we have to be “nicer” to Muslims or more of them will attack. The Left does this after EVERY Muslim attack.

      He killed brown people in a MacDonalds whilst talking gibberish about growing up on benefits. Who would there be to feel ‘my God, he really has it in for people like me, I’d better watch what I say’. It lacks an obvious rational target and he does not truly represent a constituency, simply being a Muslim isn’t enough. It’s too muddled. I don’t honestly believe blacks in America felt any more scared going to church prayer meetings after that shooting, whatever they may say. He was obviously a one-off. Same with this.

      It is not the specific mode of attack that is important (“I suggest it was Ali in the McDonalds with the AK”) but the fact that an “aggrieved Muslim” made an attack and there are lots more Muslims where he came from. There are going to be ENDLESS “one-offs” while Muslims live in the West, and only the naive and stupid are going to insist, every single time, day after day, that this is a one-off and we have no reason to expect some other Muslim to go sudden jihad tomorrow.

      This case is not muddled at all. Only your mind is muddled.

      Tarl

      July 23, 2016 at 3:45 pm

  8. That this guy is Iranian obviously matters. How could it not? This is basic HBD forbidden knowledge that I assumed everyone within this blogosphere readily grasps. Islam is a memeplex expressing behaviors prevalent among MENA peoples, not some mysterious force possessing neutral hosts (the “radicalization” explanation). If Islam disappeared there would still be Islamic behaviors. That he’s Iranian is not a coincidence to be forgotten; this isn’t just “some guy” going postal. It’s the sort of guy who, on average, is much more prone to going postal than anyone else.

    Retardation from cousin marriage and DRD4 r7 still exist even if you stop believing in Allah.

    Cryptogenic

    July 23, 2016 at 10:31 am

    • Retardation from cousin marriage and DRD4 r7 still exist even if you stop believing in Allah.

      If his mind was that fragile then he was still prime recruitment material for Islamic terrorist propaganda. If he hadn’t snapped this weekend he could have visited Syria latter on to be trained as a suicide bomber, or something.

      Point is that this low life should not have been imported regardless of how strong or weak a direct connection between him and ISIS is.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 23, 2016 at 12:04 pm

  9. Yea, there seems to be nothing related to either ISIS or neo-NAZIs. Just beta. Still, not sure why Germany is importing people to work in department stores or drive taxis (his parents).

    JerseyGuy

    July 23, 2016 at 10:48 am

  10. How did he get a gun? Doesn’t Germany have very strict gun control laws? If he was a true beta why didn’t he use a knife?

    gothamette

    July 23, 2016 at 11:01 am

  11. Officials have also said there are indications he was receiving psychiatric and medical treatment.

    So did the Orlando shooter.

    He also shouted ‘I’m German, fuck foreigners’ before he opened fire.

    He also shouted Allahu Akhbar.

    Officials told the press conference that there were materials ‘related to shootings and sprees’ in Sonboly’s room.

    They found a book about shooting sprees, and some files on his computer that showed he’d been researching the attack in advance.

    90% chance he was also following ISIS pamphlets and murder videos on the dark web – but only material he had about Breivik and white killers will be noted by the media while Muslim snuff material will be ignored.

    Because voters are stupid, they will hear Iranian and assume it has something to do with terrorism, and will help Trump.

    Close enough for me to label this one as the work of an Islamic terrorist.

    If the media is trying to portray him as a white nationalist then it’s fair game for Trump to spin this to his advantage as a Muslim terrorist.

    Case closed – he was a Muslim terrorist.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 23, 2016 at 11:44 am

    • “Close enough for me to label this one as the work of an Islamic terrorist.

      If the media is trying to portray him as a white nationalist then it’s fair game for Trump to spin this to his advantage as a Muslim terrorist.

      Case closed – he was a Muslim terrorist”

      What gets me is that people think that they HAVE to be able to call it Islamic terrorism for it to be of any use rhetorically. I think this is because since Bush the word ‘terrorist’ has become the bludgeon of choice to be used by the establishment and so the word is seen to have power like ‘racist’, so if you can call your enemies terrorists you can put them on the back foot.

      But why does this have to be the case? Why not say that dysfunctional male behaviour exists on a spectrum with vandalism, petty crime followed by treatment of women and rioting at one end, and then mass shootings and finally terrorism at the other end. Just because a Muslim social pathology may not in one instance be at the very furthest end of bad behaviour, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t represent a lesser anti-social behaviour that we can also do without.

      Likewise on issues of culture you can have pure ‘Islamic’ terror at one end of the scale, which would include Charlie Hebdo for example, but alongside that I would highlight terrorism in which coming from a Muslim culture was integral, which for me would be Nice and I would class as Muslim terrorism, to be discussed alongside its related Islamic types as examples of what Muslim immigrants can bring. Further down the scale you have dysfunctional behaviour in which the Muslim culture has played a contributory factor and so can still become part of a debate on Islam in the West. And that’s where the Munich attack rests for me.

      Of course none of this means Trump should not call it Islamic terrorism for reasons of expediency. He has his audience. It will draw true believers closer as it pushes his detractors away, but maybe that’s a price worth paying poltically.

      prolier than thou

      July 23, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    • The fact that a lot of these massacres aren’t explicit terrorist operations (I mean planned, trained-for, factional terror ops and strategic bombings) bolsters my argument. Not only do you get Muslim terrorists with all the horror that entails, you also get people who turn to terrorism or mimic terrorists for more mundane reasons.

      MENA people just have a quotient of violent and antisocial behaviors that are punished and suppressed with radically different methods in their home countries (and Israel), whether they are part of a cell or just raging dorks, or both. They aren’t necessary additions. They’re liabilities. There is no reason or obligation to allow a single MENA human to settle in a western country ever again and no reason not to deport the ones already here — on musing and especially first and second gen. They get worse with time, not better.

      I don’t know of any argument even close to refuting this, unless you consider NAXALT to be an argument, which I don’t.

      Cryptogenic

      July 23, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    • Likewise on issues of culture you can have pure ‘Islamic’ terror at one end of the scale, which would include Charlie Hebdo for example, but alongside that I would highlight terrorism in which coming from a Muslim culture was integral, which for me would be Nice and I would class as Muslim terrorism, to be discussed alongside its related Islamic types as examples of what Muslim immigrants can bring.

      In cases like this where the motivations of the attacker(s) were seemingly in the middle of the scale, the left points to every non-Islamic motivation so as to downplay the fact the reality that Islamic ideology was part of the mix.

      MENA people just have a quotient of violent and antisocial behaviors that are punished and suppressed with radically different methods in their home countries (and Israel), whether they are part of a cell or just raging dorks, or both. They aren’t necessary additions. They’re liabilities.

      Those genetic and cultural factors make them negatives even if they ‘only’ sit stewing in their government financed apartments for the rest of their lives. There’s also no way to tell in advance which Muslims who may simply have been meek followers in their home countries will later snap when they immigrate to the West and no longer have a strong hand keeping them in line.

      There is no reason or obligation to allow a single MENA human to settle in a western country ever again and no reason not to deport the ones already here — on musing and especially first and second gen. They get worse with time, not better.

      Correct.

      And a reason that, as time goes on, the second and later generations become worse is because the hardcore Muslims – the ones who trained with ISIS in Syria, have official titles in ISIS, or who are the recipients of direct black market financing and weapons from ISIS – get the ball rolling with mass casualty attacks. After enough fanatical Muslims attack, weaker beta male Muslims feel sufficiently courageous to act out on their own violent tendencies. If the demographics change enough to where Muslims roughly equal infidels, as in Lebanon, civil war soon starts because 90% of the Muslim community feels politically strong enough to completely takeover in the name of Islam.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      July 23, 2016 at 4:00 pm

  12. Should we be worried about the fascist reaction by the German police when the perp was just some Elliot Rodger type who was already dead?

    There are barely any Jews left in Germany and the Germans, with their low birth rates, can’t risk further manpower shortages that would result from another continent wide military rampage.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    July 23, 2016 at 11:47 am


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