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Latest media attack on Trump

I have no clue what Trump was saying. I think he meant to say something to encourage political activism by Second Amendment supporters, but the mainstream media had decided to spin this as “Trump says Hillary should be assassinated!”

This is disgusting partisanism on the part of the mainstream media.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 9, 2016 at 6:12 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. America really isn’t a democracy anymore, if it ever was to begin with. It’s really a semiauthoritarian oligarchy, where the old democratic institutions remain intact, but are consistently undermined and subverted by a number of conflicting bodies.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    • i’m afraid you’re right. the media’s behavior in this election is not consistent with a democratic system. the lesson for all patriots is that peaceful change will not be allowed. We must consider the remaining alternatives.

      James Hoeffner

      August 9, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      • If politics becomes closed off to us, I think we can still focus on science, technology and culture.

        We can avoid SJW pop culture. Read Shakespeare instead of watching Star Wars.

        By the end of the decade, HBD will be proven right. Charles Murray, Razib Khan and to a lesser extent Gregory Cochran have spoken of GWAS studies being undertaken which will show how specific alleles cluster together to form differing IQ levels among different populations. Once that happens and SJW rhetoric grows hoarse, the American Establishment might transition to the Bell Curve’s custodial state. They came fairly close to that under Michael Bloomberg’s mayorship.

        Granted, I’m not glad about America becoming the custodial state, but a safe, secure, pro-American dictatorship is better than a BLM, refugee-ridden, anti-American one.

        Eventually, advanced AI systems and robots will be invented. If not by white Americans, then by Northeast Asians, particularly the Japanese. Once we have enough robots and AIs, a kind of robot socialism will emerge, where robots will do 95% of the work and people will receive negative income taxes.

        Under Hillary, America will fall into decline and decay. China will be able to match and surpass America under her presidency. A lot of rich globalists don’t care about that prospect, but they will once Chinese leaders start bossing them around. China has less hang ups about genetic engineering and eugenics than the West does, so a lot of globalists might stop equating eugenics with Hitler and see it as a competitive necessity.

        At some point in the future, everyone of every race could be born with an IQ between 180 and 200.

        So ultimately, while the quality of life in America will decline markedly under Hillary, the path to robotics, genetic engineering and AI systems will still be embarked on by Northeast Asians, and there will be hard incentives for other peoples to wake up and accompany them.


        August 9, 2016 at 10:46 pm

      • Yes, Sid, but will these super-high-IQ futuroids read Shakespeare or Tolkien (as you rightly advise us to do) or even watch Star Wars? People are focusing too much on IQ. Maybe high IQ’s a necessary condition of/for being an interesting person, but it’s not sufficient. (Australian Aboriginal art is awesome.)


        August 10, 2016 at 6:44 am

  2. Yes; the Washington Post’s partisanship was disgusting. My immediate reaction to it was he was talking about Supreme Court obstruction, and, after two seconds, I saw how the absolute scum in the press would interpret it.

    This incident made me lose any and all trust in the MSM.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:19 pm

  3. Welp, here comes another week of media fabricated anti-Trump hit pieces. All the little milk toast voters getting up in the morning get to hear two minutes of spin of how Trump is telling the NRA to kill Hillary before they all got to work.

    I wouldn’t mind some other pieces of news instead of this crap.

    Camp Of The Saints

    August 9, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    • Ljl @ “milk toast”


      August 10, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      • yes, the correct spelling is “milquetoast.”


        August 11, 2016 at 9:56 am

  4. it’s more than partisanship…

    political correctness is the “twelve-year-old-girl-ification” of america.

    and non-rich white people have cooties.

    so the white birth rate will keep declining.

    trump has never said anything “un-acceptable”…as if any mere speech act could ever be un-acceptable.

    put nassim taleb in your prole camp:

    “People are not voting for Trump (or Sanders). People are just voting, finally, to destroy the establishment.”

    “I far prefer Bernie Sanders to Trump but absolutely no Hillary…No SHillary.”

    Trumpocalypse Now

    August 9, 2016 at 6:31 pm

  5. I think the big sites realize this is a bit ridiculous as they’ve phrased their headlines skeptically.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    • They’re probably checking with their lawyers about how far they can go without exposing themselves to a libel suit.


      August 9, 2016 at 7:02 pm

  6. No media attention to the Orlando killer father standing behind Hillary during a televised speech. The sheer temerity of this man is just as mindblowing as the media cover-up. These kind of people have no shame and are endlessly aggressive (like Clockboy’s family).

    The Left AND the Islamists are out for blood and the smell blood. They (rightly) feel they can do whatever they want without pushback.

    This is the result of the Dems no enemy to the left strategy and the Republicans kicking out anyone who is slightly to the right of the WSJ.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:33 pm

  7. The question is why does Trump feel the need to riff himself into these predicaments. How many more of these self inflicted wounds is he going to administer before November?

    The best thing he could do would be to resign the ticket and throw it to Pence.
    The next best would be to stay out of sight and let everyone remember how much they hate Hillary instead of how much they hate him.

    Lion of the Turambar

    August 9, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    • Trump is not going to resign any more than Hillary is going to resign.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 9, 2016 at 6:53 pm

      • He might if he thought it meant saving face. Remember the strange narcissist billionaire with weird hair Ross Perot? He was at the same point in the polls as Trump and dropped out because for a trumped up reason.

        Anyway the questions are
        1. why cant he keep himself from these unforced errors? Surely he was warned after the Khan incident.
        2. how many more before November? 8? 11? And how many ISIS strikes do there need to be to off set the damage?

        Lion of the Turambar

        August 9, 2016 at 7:05 pm

      • LotT: Perot was “not at the same place in the polls” as Donald Trump.

        Ross Perot was at a particular place in the polls at a particular time…as a third party candidate. Not as the Republican Party nominee.

        What are you trying to do? Save the Republic? Hill isn’t going to do that. Any Republican/conservative who would vote for Cankles McPantsuit over Trump is assuring the acceleration of a decline, not preventing one.

        With Trump we have a chance to steer him in the right direction. His heart is in the right place.

        If you are an NR type, please put your Pimm’s cup down, put your croquet mallet back in the rack, and smarten the fuck up.



        August 9, 2016 at 7:54 pm

      • According to wikipedia Perot, the narcissistic billionaire, was at 39% in June 2016. As of 8/9/2016 the RCP average for Trump is 39.9%.

        Perot acted erratically, ignored political advisers and eventually dropped out on Larry King live claiming that the the Bush boys were planning on ruining his daughter’s wedding. It must have been a minimal threat since he dropped back into the race a month later but it was too late because people realized he was a kook by then.

        “With Trump we have a chance to steer him in the right direction.”

        You will get no such chance. Look up Expected Value in a dictionary. Your Trump candidacy hopes are worth nothing since he wont ever be an office holder.

        I’ll telescope my previous questions
        1. since Trump is congenitally unable to avoid shooting himself in the foot, how many more multi-day gaffs do you expect him to endure before election day?
        2. since Hillary loses to “generic Republican” in the polls but is currently beating Trump by 8 points, in a vacuum isnt it a no-brainer that Trump shoudl pull a Torecelli in favor of another Republican? Pence can easily appoint 4 people to SCOTUS as Trump, and I thought this was supposed to be all about SCOTUS? You can claim the polls are biased, but doesnt the same D bias exist when “generic Republican” is polled?

        HRC weakness is her incredible unpopularity. And we are trying to run the one person more unpopular than her, with predictable results.

        Even New Coke was pulled after 3 months when everybody realized it wasnt working.

        Lion of the Turambar

        August 9, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    • You can no more expect Trump to stop shooting himself in the foot than you can expect the dumbest loudmouth at your local bar to suddenly articulate well reasoned opinions.

      The guy is just way to stupid and undisciplined .

      Ron S

      August 9, 2016 at 7:48 pm

      • yeah sure a guy who made billions in real estate, was a tv celebrity with one of the most watched reality tv shows, raised a fantastic family,and crushed 16 experienced politicians in the primaries is “stupid and undisciplined.” I can guarantee Trump is smarter and more disciplined than 99.9% of the population.


        August 9, 2016 at 10:05 pm

      • Says the man who can’t spell “too”.


        August 9, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    • Oh cuck of little faith, have ye not read the ways of game. Had ye opened the book of Pick Up ye would know the God Emperor agrees and amplifies. Now he controls the frame and he is the center of the universe and its machinations once again.

      Also: Ross Perot’s family was highly likely threatened and that’s why he dropped out. What claim did Bush have to the iron throne that was more than Perot’s? Had Bush dropped out Perot would have won.

      Your predictable response that you have no idea what I’m talking about, will be highly predictable.


      August 9, 2016 at 9:05 pm

      • I believe a lot of Game is useful and Trump used his arrogant personality to good effect in the primaries.

        Still, he’s now lagging more and more in the polls–I suspect being outrageous just doesn’t work that well with the general public that isn’t white-hot enraged about immigration. He’s trailing in Georgia, for crying out loud. The Dems laid a trap for him with the Khan business and he walked right into it.

        Republicans also have a much smaller margin for error than Democrats due to the hostile media.


        August 9, 2016 at 9:24 pm

  8. MSM running with this nothing story, even as video exists of the Orlando terrorist’s father sitting in the VIP section of Hillary’s speech.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:43 pm

  9. Seemed very clear he was alluding to the possibility of using the second amendment to overthrow the government by arms. That that it was meant as an actual suggestion, but that’s what he was getting at.


    August 9, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    • and this is one fairly popular interpretation of they 2d amendment. or so i was told by my in-law who worked at atf.

      Trumpocalypse Now

      August 9, 2016 at 8:09 pm

  10. Ridiculous, but that was the lead story on NBC News tonight.

    Mike Street Station

    August 9, 2016 at 6:53 pm

  11. Here’s a flashback to 2008:

    Chozick, June 13, 2008: He [Obama] warned that the general election campaign could get ugly. “They’re going to try to scare people. They’re going to try to say that ‘that Obama is a scary guy,’ ” he said. A donor yelled out a deep accented “Don’t give in!”

    “I won’t but that sounded pretty scary. You’re a tough guy,” Obama said.

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

    The media shrugged at this, even though it’s far more volatile than anything Trump said. In fact, to create a controversy around Trump’s words you have to interpret his reference to the 2nd amendment in the most negative way possible, since he didn’t literally speak of violence. But Obama invoked violence explicitly (“good brawl”, “bring a gun … to the fight”).


    August 9, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    • Richard, you have to understand that what Obama was referring to people of color (as well as GLBT) defending themselves from white racists.


      August 9, 2016 at 8:55 pm

  12. This story was Number 1 on NBC News. After that was a story about newborn babies dying of a bacterial infection in a hospital. Their priorities are beyond appalling.


    August 9, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    • It’s pretty funny looking at the different news sites. Right now, the headline on NBC News is “Trump Quip Seen as Veiled Threat Against Clinton,” which sounds very lawyer-approved.

      Meanwhile on CNN the top story is “The Art of the Spiel: Trump feeds conspiracies and gossip while avoiding blame,” which is illustrated with a cartoon of Trump saying “Many people are saying….”


      August 9, 2016 at 10:15 pm

  13. He mentions the NRA twice. It’s pretty obvious he’s referring to voting and/or political lobbying.


    August 9, 2016 at 7:20 pm

  14. Trumps daugther said she is good And closed friend with clinton’s daugther. the clintons And the trumps used to see each others . so i dont understand how he can be made an hitler by the press without agreeing with stat . perhaps it is pre-set ….

    Bruno from Paris

    August 9, 2016 at 7:27 pm

  15. The real irony, that no one has noticed, is that Democrats are now accusing trump of doing to hillary, obama supporters accused hillary of doing to obama back in 2008:


    August 9, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    • shocking that someone has taped evidence of Olbermann being a blowhard

      Lion of the Turambar

      August 9, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    • Forget about Trump. This country needs another Pinochet. The good General would have taken this vile dirtbag skydiving–without a parachute. Oops!

      Lewis Medlock

      August 10, 2016 at 12:05 pm

  16. needless to say the deeper problem is the presidency and the two party system. but one never hears about it.

    1. the presidency is far too powerful.

    2. first-past-the-post is anti-democratic.

    there would never have been a civil war without these two.

    conforming (or not) to all the jive talk of whichever party is simply not a problem in a system of proportional representation.

    Trumpocalypse Now

    August 9, 2016 at 7:46 pm

  17. The thing with Kahn was a coordinated “tactical strike” by the Democrats and media to neutralize Trump’s message about Islamic radicalism. That’s why he was even invited to speak. They intended to bash Trump no matter what he’d said. But you can’t run for office never saying anything.

    This is another tactical strike to neutralize Trump’s message on the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment is a winning issue for the GOP and a losing issue for the Dems. By pushing this bogus story they can change the focus of the issue from Hillary wanting to ban guns to Trump inciting gun rights supporters. It doesn’t have to be true. It can even be ridiculous. But they’ve succeeded in shifting the narrative. And that’s what counts.

    There’s an entire army of political consultants and dirty tricksters who get paid to pull stunts like this. It’s what they do.


    August 9, 2016 at 7:49 pm

  18. To me it was clearly a suggestion of using guns to rise up against the political class. I really don’t blame the media for this one.

    Otis the Sweaty

    August 9, 2016 at 7:59 pm

  19. There was an actual assassination attempt against Trump by an illegal.


    August 9, 2016 at 8:29 pm

  20. So which is it? Is Trump a master persuader, skill user of the “linguistic kill shot” and unspoken subtlety? Or is a hapless victim of the bad awful no-good media (whose constant obsession with him during the last year is the only reason he’s on the ticket to begin with).


    August 9, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    • He’s not a master persuader, he’s a buffoon and always has been. His buffoonishness didn’t hurt him in the Republican primaries because his positions were so popular and his competition so divided and odious.

      In the general his buffoonishness hurts him because to win, any Republican needs to win over massive numbers of cuck whites to get to 65% of the white vote.

      Trump was the right choice and is running a good, issues based campaign. He shoots himself in the foot with a lot of his statements but that is just part of the package with him.

      He’ll clobber crooked Hillary in the debates and he’ll ultimately put up a good performance, win or lose. If he doesn’t win now, he or some other populist will win on an anti immigration platform in 2020.

      Otis the Sweaty

      August 9, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    • To a certain degree, Trump’s appeal has always been his loud mouth and bombastic personality. It’s ready made for the media. His persona fits in well with the merging of main line entertainment and government (voilà Buster Friendly). Not so much for running the executive branch. Managing social affairs is a lot different from participating in a television show.

      Despite some proles buying into the current media driven cultural paradigm, America as a whole isn’t ready for the government to be run like a reality television show. There is hope.

      cultural sabotage, it's predictable

      August 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm

  21. Um. The reaction from certain members of the audience — white-bearded man in the red shirt, in particular — makes clear that the **audience itself** took this as a veiled threat. (I doubt the white-bearded guy would turn to his wife like “Oooh he went there” if he thought Trump was merely referring to the political unity of the 2nd Amendment voting bloc.)


    August 9, 2016 at 9:05 pm

  22. stick a fork in him he’s done. he can’t survive three more months of endless media attacks.

    james n.s.w

    August 9, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    • watch

      Andrew E.

      August 9, 2016 at 11:16 pm

  23. I love Trump, but we need to face reality. Every day Trump takes a career ending beating from the press and the establishment. Trump is now down 8 in the RCP average. Of course three months is an eternity in politics, but do we have any reason to think that he can magically overcome that?
    Terrorist attack? There was one a couple months ago where an islamist murdered 50 people, and that did nothing for him. The debates? That’s a wildcard, but more than likely he’ll suffer some embarrassing gaffe or mishap while Hillary will play it ultrasafe and skate by. This has the makings of generational electoral disaster written all over it. And the worst part is that the GOP has no good candidate in the wings for 2020. Marco, Cruz, Kasich and Jeb are all proven cucks. We are heading into uncharted (and very, very dark) waters.


    August 9, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    • how much can a good or bad debate performance impact the electoral outcome anyway? is there any precedent for it turning around the fortunes of a severely down-in-the-polls candidate?

      james n.s.w

      August 10, 2016 at 2:13 am

    • Based on this media generated assassination nonsense, it’s clear that the race isn’t between Hillary and Trump, it’s the media and Trump. The media is running their own anti Trump campaign. To me, it looks like it’s gone beyond ridiculous. On Morning Joe this morning Joe got into an argument with Peter King on who called Trump literally Hitler first and mostest.

      So it’s entirely possible that Trump could do everything right from now until November and the media will just make up a new scandal every few days. I can’t judge how effective that is because the media mendacity is obvious to me, but I’m not sure how obvious it is to voters in general.

      Mike Street Station

      August 10, 2016 at 9:41 am

    • Wahh, it’s fucking three months until the election. No debates have occurred yet. Go outside and live life and stop getting worked up about media bullshit. I see every day some other media headline about some gaffe that Trump said. It’s taken completely out of context. Don’t assume that the election’s over until November 8th. Trump will draw out non-voters the like we haven’t seen in a generation.


      August 10, 2016 at 9:54 am

    • He’s down 8 in the polls after an unprecedented assault by the Deep State. Do you imagine that in three months people won’t have adjusted to account for such tactics. The only reason he won the primary was due to an ever decreasing faith in the truthfulness of Deep State operators. People have time to adjust to the new reality.

      Regardless, his themes will only gain reality proof in outgoing years. Is it 1856 or 1860?


      August 11, 2016 at 9:28 am

  24. The notion of what is “acceptable” is a total illusion created by the media for the advantage of the Democrats. Everything Trump has said, if said by a Democrat, would be acceptable. Not only because it wouldn’t be reported or reported in a skewed way. But because we have been CONDITIONED to accept ANYTHING a liberal/democrat says in the most “acceptable” way possible; even those of us who are red-pilled who know what they say is FAAAAR more outrageous and violent then what Trump says. We have conditioned not just by how news is reported, but by our entertainment. How many people grew up watching “Diff’rent Strokes”?

    Take the recent Killer Omar Father stepping out for Hillary. We here know that this is brazenly and outrageously unacceptable beyond words. But let’s say the media showed Jared Taylor in the background of a Donald Trump speech. We would *feel* how this is totally unacceptable and a serious blow against Trump despite agreeing with Jared Taylor and the fact that he isn’t a murderer/terrorist.

    It’s the same conditioning that makes us FEEL that it’s “acceptable” for BLM CRIMINALS AND RACISTS to stand up with Clinton while we would FEEL that it’s “unacceptable” for say the late and brilliant J. Phillipe Rushton to stand up with Trump.

    It’s what made us FEEL that it was “unacceptable” what James Watson said about Africa, despite fully agreeing with it.

    It’s what makes us FEEL that a story about a man being SHOT for supporting Trump is not nearly a big deal/scandal as would be the opposite.

    The media has conditioned us, ALL OF US from when we were children, to feel as they do (even when we don’t!). It’s a Pavlovian conditioning effect that is totally anti-American and anti-white. We have been conditioned to meekly accept that it’s open season on us.


    August 9, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    • Right! And it’s nobler to lose honestly than to win dishonestly. Honest losses point to a noble victory a couple of hundred years down the road. This is why small nations are willing to fight against large nations that are obviously going to crush them (e.g. Poland vs. Germany) — the ground is laid for a future noble independence.


      August 10, 2016 at 6:58 am

    • This is the most perceptive comment on the thread.

      The first newspaper article I read this morning on Trump’s 2nd amendment comments was mostly quoting Republicans — the outrage towards Trump is “bipartisan,” you see. We’ve been trained so well that our side now leaps forward to do the Democrats’ dirty work for them.

      Meanwhile, Obama directly invokes violence against his opponents during the 2008 campaign with his “bring a gun” rant, and not only does the media wave it off, he gets awarded the Noble Peace Prize a year later.


      August 10, 2016 at 10:21 am

  25. TBH, I thought it was an assassination joke, because that’s the kind of joke I would make and it’s funny.

    Trump obviously wasn’t calling for her to be assassinated. At worst it was a bad joke i.e. a good joke but one that would cause a furor because of the context.


    August 9, 2016 at 11:59 pm

  26. I started flipping channels on my over-the-air tv when a commercial aired or an anti-Trump comment was made. Now, I spend 80-90% of my time watching old game shows and movie channels and I never get to listen to all of the news. On a positive note, I’m getting a lot more done around the house.


    August 10, 2016 at 12:00 am

  27. I saw the clip of Trump’s speech, and it didn’t’ seem to me as if he was referring to violence, only the political power of the gun lobby. I’m judging by the look on his face AND the words he used. I’ll side with Trump on this one. The worst he can be accused of here is carelessness – failing to realize that he has to be careful to avoid saying things that could have multiple interpretations.

    But the media’s relentless anti-Trump bias could possibly backfire. I’m sure that even the most dense person can see how biased they are against him.

    Trump supporters on this blog have cause for concern but shouldn’t panic. He still has time to turn this around.


    August 10, 2016 at 12:17 am

    • “But the media’s relentless anti-Trump bias could possibly backfire. I’m sure that even the most dense person can see how biased they are against him.”

      That’s what I’m most worried about. To me, the media attacks are so over the top as to be laughable, but I don’t know how a person who has a more normal interest (little to none) in politics and watches the news rarely would view these attacks.

      Mike Street Station

      August 10, 2016 at 10:08 am

      • Like Eisenhower discovered, half the country is dumber than the average person. It’s commonly believed that Trump is a warmonger who would callously start World War III or drop a nuke on someone just because they hurt his feelings, even though by any objective standard Trump is the least belligerent candidate to win a major party’s nomination since George McGovern. If we lived in a rational world we wouldn’t be in the mess that caused people to turn to Trump in the first place.


        August 10, 2016 at 10:32 am

  28. Lion, some interesting campaign news – Trump has hired team involved in Brexit.

    “Donald Trump and his team have upped their game to win the race for the White House by hiring the company that got the Brexit message to millions, resulting in the split of Great Britain from the European Union.

    Cambridge Analytica is a marketing film that targets voters (and potential donors) based on their unconscious psychological biases.”


    August 10, 2016 at 1:15 am

    • The real brains behind Brexit was someone called Dominic Cummings, who used to work with Michael Gove in the education department. It was a better organised and better run campaign, even though it was despicable. He has a blog if you are interested, just search.


      August 10, 2016 at 9:39 am

      • Dominic Cummings is a very interesting guy, almost the anti-Trump expect he does have the ability to make people hate him.

        I like his observation about MP’s having no actual formal training for the job they are expect to perform. Like understanding variance or in many cases what a Trillion even is.

        It would be interesting if prospective Congressmen were forced to take a stats and economics course between the election and when they were seated. I think the public would be ok with it but the candidates would sue.

        Lion of the Turambar

        August 10, 2016 at 4:26 pm

      • What was despicable about the Brexit campaign?

        MEH 0910

        August 10, 2016 at 9:19 pm

  29. Trump says “Good Morning,” claim he hates sunsets.



    August 10, 2016 at 2:56 am

  30. There is nothing to turn around. The polls are BS. Since the media creates an environment where admitting you are a Trump supporter is dangerous, of course you are not going to see Trump support in the polls.

    The polls also said “Remain” would win, right?


    August 10, 2016 at 3:51 am

  31. People need to keep in mind that a lot can change in a few months. Kerry was leading Bush in the polls at this point. It wasn’t really until September that Bush pulled ahead after the Swift Boat ads.


    August 10, 2016 at 7:10 am

  32. This is the kind of messaging that worked well for Trump in the Republican primaries, but does work well in the general elections.


    August 10, 2016 at 9:12 am

  33. I am not American, however I just note that the world will laugh itself raw if you elect Trump.

    I know he seems a viable alternative on those shores, but here in the rest of the world he is considered a joke (much like Boris Johnson would have been if he had made UK PM, but even worse).

    As I said, I know you won’t care about the world’s opinion, particularly given Trump’s more isolationist stance, which speaks to a large part of the American electorate, but you might want to ask yourselves why does the rest of the world view him in that way? We can’t all be stupid, so what are we seeing or not seeing compared to yourselves?

    Final note is that the world generally never asked you to get involved in anything since 1950, America did it as it was an express foreign policy – the American sphere of influence (effectively Empire) spanning as much of the globe as possible. However, it is hard to withdraw from those previous commitments without leaving a vacuum, into which turmoil and uncertainty will roil like stormclouds, disrupting peace. The problems may be far away at first, but in such a global and interconnected world they will impact the US more rapidly than in the past – no nation, even one as large as the US, is an island.

    The final thing I would note is that China is trying very hard to develop its soft power influence across the world (Africa, new silk road, Russian energy deals, etc), if the US really feels comfortable in vacating the field and letting them have an open run, then you cannot complain down the road when most of the world is China’s sphere of influence.

    Finally, it sounded to me like a deliberate veiled snide attack – I don’t think he was seriously inciting anyone to violence but I think he was joking about it, I certainly think he only left it vague as he needed the plausible deniability of it being about the NRA’s power as a voting lobby.


    August 10, 2016 at 9:34 am

    • Actually, you CAN all be stupid. And pussies. And liars.


      August 10, 2016 at 9:48 am

    • “I am not American, however I just note that the world will laugh itself raw if you elect Trump.

      I know he seems a viable alternative on those shores, but here in the rest of the world he is considered a joke.”

      I acknowledge that, and that’s been true of most Republican candidates. Reagan was viewed by the entire rest of the world as a joke AND a nuclear armed danger. Frankly it’s just true that the interests of the United States and what you view as “the world” are more than often at odds, so I would welcome the laughter and derision of “the world.”

      Mike Street Station

      August 10, 2016 at 10:13 am

    • I look forward to having the world “laugh itself raw” the day after Trump is elected.

      “The world”, by and large, is a cesspool of tribalism, corruption and violence. With the exception of Europe and parts of Asia, it’s a massive clusterfuck.

      After you’re done laughing so hard, check your ass; it will be raw as well. “The World” and the globalists are going to get it good and hard. To paraphrase a quote from the current governor of Maine: we’re not even going to give you Vaseline.


      August 10, 2016 at 10:39 am

      • Why are the globalists going to get it hard? I don’t understand the scenario you have pictured in your head?


        August 11, 2016 at 4:00 am

    • Sounds like the rest of the world is scared shitless that the US might pull out and leave you little cunts to be assraped by whatever benevolent power decides they want your natural resources and your prime fertile women.

      Enjoy sucking some Chinese dick you ungrateful cunts.

      Oh and enjoy paying true market price for pharmaceutical drugs we develop here in the US. We won’t be subsidizing your addiction to deviant behavior anymore. Meanwhile we will enjoy a 50-80% reduction in the cost of our medicine. You pieces of shit get to suffer while our standard of living gets better. Gotta love vengeance.

      The world will laugh at the republican candidate no matter what. This is the media narrative. Conservative Europeans might also laugh, but fuck them to, they are lazy parasites who are champagne socialists. Their only claim to being conservative is hating anyone and everyone outside their borders. An acceptable state of mind, but hardly something to gloat over.

      That’s what made America great once. The right amount of tolerance to encourage outside the box thinking, but without being ethnically suicidal to its founding stock. Then again the European forefathers used to actually invent shit when their nanny state wasn’t feeding them fathers milk through a dick shaped feeding tube.


      August 10, 2016 at 11:12 am

      • Ibuprofen and Viagra were British discoveries.


        August 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm

      • No we are not scared, it is the US’s choice and policy to intervene, hardly ever a request from another country – you are doing it in self-interest, not to be altruistic!

        I really don’t have a clue what your comments on pharma prices is about – the US is the most expensive healthcare market in the world, so people develop drugs for it. They don’t subsidise other markets, its just other markets will not pay the same amount. For instance, the NHS can negotiate centrally from drugs, driving down the price, which I believe is not possible in the US.

        European conservatives are Champagne Socialists, so what are the Champagne Socialists? Commies?

        The level of laughter will be a lot louder than ever before, even W.


        August 11, 2016 at 5:14 am

    • Brexit was considered a joke too. The collapse of the Soviet Union a right wing fantasy. And the peaceful assimilation of Muslims was a given.


      August 11, 2016 at 9:33 am

  34. > in the rest of the world he is considered a joke

    This is the “rest of the world” where people don’t even cause an uproar when their women are being raped and groomed into prostitution by foreigners?

    We all have our blind spots I guess. I have nothing against Europeans, but it would appear that they have become soft through living in too much peace and prosperity. They would rather let foreigners come and disrespect them and their culture openly than be called “racist.”


    August 10, 2016 at 11:01 am

    • Europeans (primarily Western Europeans) have been completely emasculated because of Hitler and WWII. The elites are guilt-ridden, frightened children who’ve come to believe that multiculturalism, feminism and a quasi-pacifism will save humanity. They are pathetic weaklings and cowards who should be swept off the historical stage by bikers, truckers, coal miners, soccer hooligans etc.

      Lewis Medlock

      August 10, 2016 at 12:34 pm

      • We are going to be swept off the stage by bikers, truckers, coal miners, soccer hooligans?

        Why would they rise up? What a strange picture you have of Western Europe… Also Soccer Hooligans are pretty much always middle class nowadays – and there is so few of them!


        August 11, 2016 at 5:18 am

    • when whiter ppl invoke the “rest of the world” obviously are only talking about western europe, they don’t care about anywhere else except for moralising purposes. in australia at least (a country white american liberals dont care about and regard as an odd reactionary backwater) trump is not popular and looked upon negatively bc the media here poaches stuff from the u.s media and reports on american politics in a really superficial way (though i guess thats understandable).

      james n.s.w

      August 10, 2016 at 12:58 pm

      • You don’t think China and Russia and India and South America and Africa will laugh when Trump is elected?


        August 11, 2016 at 5:24 am

  35. I don’t think Trump was calling on people to assassinate Hillary Clinton or any judges she might appoint.

    What Trump said was:

    “By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

    One of the ideas pushed by the militia movement is that government agents will be coming to take peoples guns soon and that people need to be prepared to resist attempts to confiscate their firearms. I think Trump was referring to this and then said “that will be a horrible day.”

    Clinton has indicated that she believes the Heller case was incorrectly decided by the Supreme Court, but that is hardly the same as as effectively repealing the 2nd Amendment. Heller was not decided until 2008 and guns were widely available before that.


    August 10, 2016 at 3:40 pm

  36. You’re such a Trump fanboy.


    August 11, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    • I’m not a fan of Trump the person, I’m a fan of Trumpism (before he started shilling for the top 1% Jeb Bush/Paul Ryan crowd).

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 11, 2016 at 11:10 pm

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