Lion of the Blogosphere

Sounds more like a hit than NAM violence

Fox News:

But Rich’s father has said the 4 a.m. murder, in which Rich was shot several times from behind, did not appear to be a robbery, as his son’s wallet and watch were not taken.

This sounds more like a deliberate hit than NAM violence.

NAMs wouldn’t be afraid of a lone white guy, and they would enjoy physically beating him up. When NAMs shoot guns, it’s usually because they are pissed at someone they know (and those types of NAMs are extremely unlikely to know and have a personal beef with a SWPL DNC staffer) or involves gang warfare. I haven’t heard of NAMs randomly shooting strangers. So this is either a hit, or a new and deadly escalation of the “knockout game.”

The shooter wanted to kill the victim and get out of there ASAP without getting caught, thus nothing was stolen. Getting out of there fast was more important to the shooter than taking the time to remove the victim’s possessions to make the hit more realistically look like a robbery.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

August 10, 2016 at 11:37 am

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  1. ‘I haven’t heard of NAMs randomly shooting stranger’.

    Please… they love doing it. Can we get back to Utopia already?


    August 10, 2016 at 11:48 am

    • I was going to highlight the same quote. It was probably a robbery gone wrong where the guy either panicked or did the smart thing and just took cash.

      This is just as stupid as any attack on Trump so far.


      August 10, 2016 at 11:53 am

      • @magnavox
        The news reports say that Rich’s wallet was not stolen. Are you saying they took out the wallet, took the cash, put the wallet back, and ran? That would have left ample DNA evidence. In any case I haven’t read that. State your source, please!


        August 10, 2016 at 5:58 pm

      • I put it forward speculatively (it being one of two things that together only probably happened). I don’t know much about it but I don’t think you’re right about the DNA.


        August 11, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    • Lane was killed in the middle of the afternoon.

      Bored NAM teenagers would probably be asleep by 4 AM when the DNC guy was shot.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 10, 2016 at 11:55 am

      • 4 am is pretty close to prime don’t go outside in a shitty neighborhood time for me.


        August 10, 2016 at 12:00 pm

      • Could be Hillary’s job you think? I think Trump should use it to attack her. Maybe he could link her to JFK asassination or was she too young? Let get the show on the road!


        August 10, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      • Lane was killed in the middle of the afternoon.

        Bored NAM teenagers would probably be asleep by 4 AM when the DNC guy was shot.

        LOL, urban “teens” don’t keep regular hours. Sitting on stoops and porches all day doesn’t tend to get you tired, either. Go to the ghetto and it’s just as active at 4am as it is at 4pm.


        August 10, 2016 at 3:53 pm

      • Hillary is already been linked to the JFK assassination, but the reality based main stream media will not cover it:

        (Note: if you not familiar with National Report, it is a joke news site like The Onion.)


        August 10, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      • ‘I haven’t heard of NAMs randomly shooting stranger’.

        I think you mean they won’t go out of their way to travel outside their immediate vicinity to attack a stranger. They might hunt someone down for revenge if they’re familiar with the person and they’ve committed crimes together. Otherwise, attacked strangers just happened to cross into the wrong area.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        August 10, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    • Sounds more like a hit than NAM violence

      My guess is it’s more likely racially motivated mugging/thrill kill than a political hit.

      It was probably a combination of racist hate crime and money grab by a black male or maybe a team.

      The White “target” was uncooperative and was killed.

      The black killers didn’t get the money but they got some satisfaction nonetheless.

      That’s my guess.

      Down thread someone mentioned a liberal writer was also shot. Similar profile probably.

      Brian Beutler and his friend were randomly shot in DC.


      August 10, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      • “t was probably a combination of racist hate crime and money grab by a black male or maybe a team.”

        Why did they leave his wallet? It’s not terribly difficult to figure out where a man puts his wallet. How many pockets does a man’s pair of trousers have?


        August 10, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      • Maybe he took the money but not the wallet. More likely he panicked and fled. You’re grasping at straws just the same as people saying that Trump is calling for violent insurrection again Clinton.


        August 10, 2016 at 11:41 pm

  2. Brian Beutler and his friend were randomly shot in DC.


    August 10, 2016 at 11:52 am

  3. There is an active one in PHX right now in fact.


    August 10, 2016 at 12:02 pm

  4. Here is an interesting story from Peak Superpredator, T-minus five months for Giuliani time.

    Things were bad, though the author Barbara Kantrowitz spread around some hyperbole… gang equipped with Uzis, AK-47s…


    August 10, 2016 at 12:02 pm

  5. It was a pretty sloppy murder no matter how you slice it. The link says Rich was still conscious when police found him.


    August 10, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    • The sloppiness suggests NAM violence, or the person who put out the hit couldn’t afford a better hitman.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 10, 2016 at 12:13 pm

      • This isn’t hard guys…a DNC staffer who Assange hinted was the source of the DNC leaks that seriously hurt Clinton’s campaign was shot to death in a non-robbery. This was a hit. It ain’t rocket science.

        James Hoeffner

        August 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm

      • “This isn’t hard guys…a DNC staffer who Assange hinted was the source of the DNC leaks that seriously hurt Clinton’s campaign was shot to death in a non-robbery. This was a hit. It ain’t rocket science.”

        I have to say, since Assange linked this guy (however vaguely) to the DNC hack, Occam’s razor would seem to suggest a hit.

        Mike Street Station

        August 11, 2016 at 8:11 am

    • There’s no mention in the linked article that his body had defensive wounds:

      The best that proponents can point to is that Rich still had his wallet, watch, and credit cards on him when his body was discovered. From this we are meant to conclude that he was the victim of assassins, and not of a robber or robbers who ran after their victim resisted (his body had defensive wounds on it) and things got out of hand.


      August 10, 2016 at 6:25 pm

  6. He allegedly was a major Wikileaks source.



    August 10, 2016 at 1:05 pm

  7. Strange no mention of who saw him last, where he was coming from, or where he was going at 4 in the morning.

    Mark Caplan

    August 10, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    • He was walking home from his girlfriend’s house, according to several of the press accounts.


      August 10, 2016 at 2:04 pm

      • He should have stayed a few more hours and cooked her breakfast. Besides, morning sex is best!

        E. Rekshun

        August 10, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    • The Daily Mail says before Rich was killed he was out drinking in a bar in Alexandria with a close male friend, Miles Mawby. NBC 4 reported that he was talking on his cell phone to his unnamed girlfriend at 4 a.m. while he was being attacked, but tells her it’s nothing to worry about, which makes no sense. As far as I can tell, the press hasn’t identified or interviewed the alleged insomniac girlfriend.

      Mark Caplan

      August 11, 2016 at 7:40 am

  8. The only thing that could make this hit even more obvious was if he was stabbed with a poison umbrella Putin style.


    August 10, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    • Putin is multifaceted and doesn’t have a style – he has class.


      August 10, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      • this is true

        Economic Sophisms

        August 11, 2016 at 6:35 pm

  9. He was a Bernie Sanders diehard who came to the DNC when his boss’ group came on board the DNC.

    He would have seen how Wasserman Shultz was screwing Bernie all throughout the campaign, and would have been upset about it.

    At the time of his death, Sanders was still in the race & still pledging to fight on.


    August 10, 2016 at 4:15 pm

  10. This could well have been a robbery attempt gone bad. Tried to do a hold up. Rich resisted. He shot and killed Rich, then paniced and fled. Most armed robbers do not intend to kill their victims.


    August 10, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    • “robbery attempt gone bad”

      ROFL. I’m sure the bruthas dat dun did it wuz turnin’ demselves around too!


      August 10, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    • Baloney. Everyone knows the streets of Washington D.C. are perfectly safe that time of night. Let’s just continue to ignore the defensive wounds on Rich’s body. This was clearly an assassination.


      August 10, 2016 at 10:34 pm

  11. There really is no such thing as NAMs as a meaningful category, when you think about it.

    There are two unassimilable minorities in America: blacks and muslims. Every other group is intermarrying with whites at an ever increasing rate.

    All the criticisms of so called “NAMs” are really just criticisms of blacks. Blacks are the problem. Not Hispanics.

    Otis the Sweaty

    August 10, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    • On the east coast, there are a lot of Puerto Ricans who behave almost as poorly as blacks.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 10, 2016 at 6:49 pm

      • And Dominicans … part-Blacks. Generally unpleasant, thuggish people, fond of pitbulls, shouting across intersections, and honking whenever possible (how do they afford their cars? is there a government car-program?), but not as likely to actually assault you. Otis: Mexicans and other tiny, pudgy Indians are totally unassimilable. They’re generally pleasant people, but the men are too short to marry Whites and the women are too round. They’re like dim-witted Hobbits. Elves don’t marry Hobbits.


        August 10, 2016 at 7:07 pm

      • Albanians (especially of the Muslim variety) have many bottom-of-the-barrel types. They can be very clannish and violent. And they’ll hold a grudge for centuries. They’re in the NYC metro area–primarily in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens. Another great benefit of this country’s ever increasing diversity.

        Lewis Medlock

        August 11, 2016 at 11:43 am

    • Otis, it’s Maria! I’ve been looking for you. What happened to Dan’s blog?

      Lurker M

      August 10, 2016 at 7:10 pm

      • Hey Maria. I assume he closed it because nobody was left. It was mainly just him and me and I was checking it less and less often.

        Otis the Sweaty

        August 10, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    • Really, Otis?

      When SJWs talk about “white supremacy”, they’re referring to a society in which white people are the majority and are also culturally dominant. They view this as shameful and something they should apologize for. Can you think of a single country where you’d want to raise a *daughter* that isn’t under the control of “white supremacy?” Cuba? Mexico? Brazil? Japan? South Korea? Again, if you had a *daughter.*

      Lion has, more than once, argued that Hispanics are very much like prole whites, and he’s right. They’re assimilable in the sense that they assimilate *down*, and that might be ok most of the time when we’re talking about individuals. But as far as large demographic changes are concerned?

      Again, really, Otis?

      Horace Pinker

      August 10, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    • If people marry into white families and those families end up stupider, uglier, poorer, sicker, etc. than they would be otherwise you have a serious problem for the country that’s worse than if Hispanics just remained their own group.


      August 10, 2016 at 11:38 pm

  12. Assange should confirm or deny that Rich was the source. I get the feeling he’s trolling Clinton here and that’s not going to help him when the next document dump comes. The media is already attempting to psychologically prepare the public to disregard anything Wikileaks publishes related to Clinton on the grounds that it’s been tainted by Russia. It will probably work, too.

    In another comment thread someone posted a screen cap of a tweet from SOBL1 about Moldbug and Trump. The Cathedral really is showing us its ugly face.

    Horace Pinker

    August 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm

  13. I haven’t heard of NAMs randomly shooting strangers.

    Back in ’02, the DC snipers – John Muhammad (Nation of Islam member) and Lee Boyd Malvo (Jamaican immigrant) – randomly shot and killed 14 strangers in DC, MD, CA, AZ, and TX.

    E. Rekshun

    August 10, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    • Those were serial killer types. I think Lion means street thugs.


      August 10, 2016 at 8:28 pm

  14. Sounds like he owed money to a drug dealer or bookie. He was.roughed up -they asked if he had the cash. When he didnt they shot him.

    Paul Rise

    August 10, 2016 at 5:42 pm

  15. Assange said that the guy was the source of the WikiLeaks story. Assange believes it was a hit.


    August 10, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    • Assange implied he was the source, but left room for doubt.

      But if he WAS the source, then his death is too much of a coincidence to just be NAM violence.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 10, 2016 at 6:50 pm

      • He implied that he was the leak the same way Trump called for violent resistance against Clinton.


        August 10, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      • if you watch closely, Assange nods very slightly when asked if he was the source. Assange has some reason for not spelling it out. Possibly legal, possibly to stay within the letter of Wikileaks policy. It’s pretty unlikely for the leaker to be randomly killed, it’s quite likely a hit 85% probability I say.

        Economic Sophisms

        August 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm

      • Right, IF that guy is the leaker than it’s surely a hit.

        BUT I’m less than 50% sure I believe Assange. He may just be causing mischief, or misdirecting attention from the real leakers/hackers.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        August 11, 2016 at 11:08 pm

  16. Death by TNB. The End.


    August 10, 2016 at 6:37 pm

  17. Was this a gentrified area with lots of poor and unemployed blacks living nearby? A lot of criminals don’t have school or jobs to go to during the day. So early morning hours are prime time for crime. If the motive was racial then I can see someone doing the deed and leaving the valuables behind. Don’t dismiss a racial motive too quickly. I’ve grown up and lived around lots of poor blacks. It’s not unheard of that one would seize the opportunity of a lone white guy walking around at 4am for a quick, easy kill.

    If you google “shooting parked car” you’ll find hundreds of stories about someone sitting in a parked car being shot at random. Frequently it’s early morning. They don’t steal anything. They just walk or drive up and shoot. Then they run or drive off. A lot of those would have sounded like hits, too, if the victim was a DNC staffer with possible ties to a scandal. If they’ll shoot someone sitting in a parked car at random then they’ll shoot someone walking around at random.

    I’m not saying it wasn’t a hit tied to Hillary’s emails, wikileaks, etc. It very well may have been. I’m just saying that it could be either. On the one hand, you have a guy who was testifying in the email scandal. On the other hand, he was walking around an inner city black/gentrified neighborhood at 4am. On the one hand, Assange implies the guy may have been a wikileaks source. On the other, Assange may have been making it up to draw attention.


    August 10, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    • If you google “shooting parked car” you’ll find hundreds of stories about someone sitting in a parked car being shot at random. Frequently it’s early morning. They don’t steal anything.

      These are drug deals gone awry, why else would someone sit idle in a dangerous neighborhood for no reason. Those who got shot claim that they were “just sitting there” when the police come around and start asking them questions, but the truth is they were there to buy or sell drugs and got shot by some NAM criminal who’d gladly shoot them for their $60 of weed money.


      August 11, 2016 at 9:55 am

      • Drugs is a great way to get shot. But simply sitting in a parked car in a bad area is risky whether one is there for drugs or not. There are lots of reasons someone might be in a parked car besides drugs. Lost. Car problems. Meeting someone. Killing time before an appointment. Eating. Talking to a friend. Talking on the phone. Too tired or drunk to drive. Taking a nap. Michael Jordan’s dad was driving back from a funeral in another city. He pulled over to take a nap and someone shot him.


        August 11, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      • So if they’re willing to kill their customers who are willing to give them their money voluntarily why wouldn’t someone be willing to kill a total stranger who isn’t going to give his money voluntarily?


        August 11, 2016 at 11:19 pm

  18. CNN fucked up!

    You could try to seed the press with easily refutable anti-Trump stories to discredit them. They’d totally take the bait. Risky, though.


    August 10, 2016 at 8:10 pm

  19. Silly Lion, Blacks don’t kill Whites, White police kill Blacks! Otherwise, why would Black Lives Matter exist? It’s almost gotten to the point where I suspect you think our exalted moral superiors in the media are lying!


    August 10, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    • Liar! They are not just our moral superiors! They are our intellectual superiors. Social superiors. Physical superiors. The media would never lie because everyone knows the free market would penalise poor quality products!!

      The Philosopher

      August 11, 2016 at 1:47 am

  20. OT but also violent:

    Members of a Hassidic “watchdog patrol group” (like those nice Muslim “neighbourhood watch” analogs?) beat the living daylights out of a gay black fashion design student in Williamsburg. The guy was blinded for life in one eye in the seeming “hate crime” and the attackers got off with the slap on the wrist of community service and a $1400 fine.

    Who knew Orthodox vigilante groups has such sway over the police and courts? I’m surprised the national media hasn’t run with this thing, considering the guy is a protected class X2.


    August 10, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    • Maybe he deserved a beating, and the eye was a regrettable side-effect. The watchmen were sentenced to community service in “culturally diverse” neighborhoods. So the Judge is an ideological enforcer, a commissar. A couple of half-blinding beatings in Park Slope of Orcs from the other side of the park would be salutary. There might have to be ten or twenty of them before the message started to sink in.


      August 11, 2016 at 10:40 am

  21. And what’s the Bayesian prior for someone of his basic demographic profile shot at that time in that place? What probability would you place on it being a contract killing without knowing any more details? You would need vastly vastly more evidence to conclude that its more likely to be a hit than run of the mill violence.


    August 10, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    • For one thing, I’d wonder what he was doing out so late, alone, in DC of all places and at 4am at that. He might just have felt confident enough, as a big man, to do so, but I for one wouldn’t dare.

      Also, a hit wouldn’t have left the victim alive long enough to die in hospital. A hit ordered by someone that high up would have done a kill shot to make sure.


      August 11, 2016 at 4:38 am

  22. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a choice between NAMs or a hit. If you watched the Sopranos, the Italians on more than one occasion hired NAMs to perform hits when they didn’t want the hit to lead back to them. And just because he was still breathing when the police arrived in no way rules out a hit. If you look at the case history of mafia hits, victims surviving (and not just till the police arrive, but surviving outright) is not uncommon.


    August 11, 2016 at 2:39 am

    • ” If you look at the case history of mafia hits, victims surviving (and not just till the police arrive, but surviving outright) is not uncommon.”

      That brings to mind this pretty funny story:
      “Ken Eto (衛藤 健 Etō Ken; October 19, 1919–January 23, 2004), also known as Tokyo Joe and “The Jap”, was a Japanese-American mobster with the Chicago Outfit and eventually an FBI informant who ran Asian gambling operations for the organization. He was the highest-ranking Asian-American in the organization and is also notable for his extraordinary survival of a murder attempt.”
      “Eto’s gambling operation was eventually uncovered by the FBI, and Outfit capo Vincent Solano was afraid that Eto would turn government witness. On February 10, 1983, a few weeks prior to sentencing on his gambling conviction he was invited to a dinner meeting. Afraid he was going to be shot, he took a bath and put on his best suit before heading out for the meeting. As he was sitting in a parked car, hitmen Jasper Campise and John Gattuso fired three shots into his head; however, the bullets had only grazed Eto’s skull. After regaining consciousnesses, he dragged himself into a local pharmacy and called “911”.[5] The 911 recording was played on WBBM-TV with the call taker demanding to speak to Eto and then asking him if he could drive himself to a hospital. Eventually, a Chicago Fire Department ambulance was sent for him. Their failure to kill Eto was blamed on an insufficient amount of gunpowder in the bullet cartridges. The two gunmen had handloaded their own ammunition to reduce their chances of being traced to Eto’s murder.”


      August 11, 2016 at 6:55 pm

  23. It’s amazing how all of this conspires to portray a picture of what a crappy place DC really is. A city populated by greedy, rapacious midwits, running an obvious felon for president with a suspicious string of dead people to her name. On top of that, a low level staffer is murdered either because of a deliberate hit or because of the leftist-enabled thuggishness of the NAM population.

    A pox on all of their houses


    August 11, 2016 at 4:03 am

    • And these are the people we trust with the nuclear codes… Thank god there is still some military sanity left in the highest ranks. This is scary, almost as bad as the end of Atlas Shrugged, where the thuggish warlord guy gets control of the destruction machine built by one of the cowed cowardly scientists.


      August 11, 2016 at 12:54 pm

  24. Someone who kills someone would probably not want to be caught with the victim’s belongings. At least, not if they’re smart enough to get away with it.

    It could be a lot of things. Gang initiation, for one.


    August 11, 2016 at 4:35 am

    • I agree, but it’s also possible that it’s a hit. Obama has ordered the deaths of thousands of terrorists in the Middle East, it would be no big deal for him from a moral perspective to order the death of a domestic enemy agent like the dead DNC staffer. What’s one more death?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      August 11, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      • From a rationally neutral moral perspective we can say there is no significant difference between killing foreigners vs. American citizens, or even strangers vs. blood relatives, but that’s now how most people think. The vast majority of people see a difference between terrorists and whistleblowers, as well as extrajudicial assassinations on foreign soil versus in-country.

        For the third time, how do conspiracy theorists account for the defensive wounds? Maybe, just maybe, the police are actually on the right track that this was a robbery-gone-wrong and not wetwork.


        August 11, 2016 at 4:25 pm

  25. A hit seems pretty far-fetched to me.


    August 11, 2016 at 8:57 am

  26. Maybe he had run afoul of someone else in the Panda-suit community… since he was known to be fond of dressing up in Panda suits and lounging around his residence.


    August 11, 2016 at 8:59 am

  27. This just in… Italy to begin jailing Vegan parents who feed their children a vegan diet for child abuse. Fuck yeah… The right with the power of state, you gotta love it!


    August 11, 2016 at 10:14 am

  28. I think the DNC used their top blackops assassinator guy (Gary Condit) to have one of his associates kill this poor kid…


    August 11, 2016 at 2:13 pm

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