Lion of the Blogosphere

Prole Jews LOVE Donald Trump

It’s true.

Prole Jews love Donald Trump a lot more than Mormons in Utah.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 11, 2016 at 10:27 am

Posted in Politics, Proles

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  1. The same arguments can be made in favor of Blacks (that some groups of blacks are better by some relevant standard than some other group of whites) but you don’t care at all when the alt-right shits all over blacks in fact you agree with them.

    Magnavox

    September 11, 2016 at 11:06 am

    • The alt-right shouldn’t do that.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 11, 2016 at 12:09 pm

      • Than what’s left that the alt-right should do?

        Magnavox

        September 11, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      • “Than what’s left that the alt-right should do?”

        They should oppose the destructive, immoral and anti-American agenda of the msm
        They should oppose immigration and trade agreements designed to drive down wages
        They should oppose radicals who scapegoat whites, men, etc for other people’s failures

        destructure

        September 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm

      • You do that. The standards around here!

        Daylight stalker

        September 11, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      • Why are we still talking about this irrelevance called the altright?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 11, 2016 at 11:26 pm

      • You do that. The standards around here!

        Yes, thank you.

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 12:15 am

      • Why are we still talking about this irrelevance called the altright?

        Yeah let’s talk about something really relevant like Klemens von Metternich

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 11:03 am

      • Yeah let’s talk about something really relevant like Klemens von Metternich

        I didn’t say we should talk about Metternich, you retard trollbot.

        Although I would bet topics like the Bourbon Restoration, the Congress of Vienna, the Peace of Pressburg, etc, would be have more politically relevant lessons for today’s politics than the internet plague of “Pepe” gravatars, Nazi tattoos, Putin worship, Richie Spencer’s satisfying his Hitler complex in mainstream media interviews, triple parentheses, and general white trash idiocy on Twitter that the altright is bombarding everyone else with.

        But if you can only handle something slightly more in depth than a hastag, and if you think the altright has better taste in Austrians than Pragmatically Distributed, I did predict in mid-August that Trump’s ad campaign and improved messaging would result in him tying Hillary in the swing states by Labor Day.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 5:38 pm

      • but you don’t care at all when the alt-right shits all over blacks in fact you agree with them

        Is anyone else getting the impression “Magnavox” is really []

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 8:14 pm

      • Yes I would prefer that people keep the same pseudonym and not change them. No, I don’t think Magnavox is whom you thought he was.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 12, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      • I did predict in mid-August that Trump’s ad campaign and improved messaging would result in him tying Hillary in the swing states by Labor Day.

        fivethirtyeight has him stalled at 30% chance of winning. Everyone seems to have their own brand of poll correction voodoo but I’m going to go the with the voodoo that actually has a track record (and no, the none poll primary predictions don’t count against their track record).

        Magnavox

        September 13, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      • No, I don’t think Magnavox is whom you thought he was.

        I do think Magnavox is a liberal troll, like swanknasty.

        He calls on Jews to be more pro-white and racist, but then he blames you for being an a-hole to blacks.

        Then he demands Jews be more anti-immigration only to turn around and spam the blog with #NeverTrump comments about the best Republican on immigration since Eisenhower.

        I suspect he’s not a conservative at all, and suggest you ban him.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 13, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    • I wonder… would the Trump-supporting Alt-Right rather live in a community of prole Russian Jews or Utah Mormons? That’s a real brain-buster. What about regular posters to this forum?

      Surely most of you would prefer to share a community with with strong-man loving, Trump-supporting Blacks rather than Hillary-voting SWPLs.

      Vince

      September 11, 2016 at 3:19 pm

      • The Alt-right hate Jews and blacks equally, so that’s a no brainer. Muslims are next, and then Hispanics.

        JS

        September 11, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    • The Lion-community has always had the warmest regard for Black Nerds such as Jayman, Jimi Hendrix, and the kids sitting on the floor in the Marvel aisle of the Court Street Barnes & Noble.

      Garr

      September 11, 2016 at 4:08 pm

      • Jimi Hendrix was a nerd? I liked him, yes. But a nerd?

        Maryk

        September 11, 2016 at 10:35 pm

      • Except that awful poseur comic-fan nerd Ta-Nehisi Coates.

        What a phony bastard.

        Now that he’s moved to France I wish he’d just leave us alone!

        I love it.

        He complains about whites being so awful and racist…
        …so he moves to Paris France.

        Not Detroit, Liberia or Selma…

        Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

        September 12, 2016 at 2:22 am

      • Spectrumy sci-fi nerd, yes. Not just his interests, but the way he talks in interviews and on stage. People think that psychedelics and hallucinogens make us talk like that. Not true. Rather, it’s our natural brain-setup that inclines us toward the use of psychedelics and hallucinogens. My downstairs neighbor’s a Black Comics-Nerd. Not even slightly a druggy, and talks like Hendrix. I’ve seen this again and again. It’s a neurological type. People thought I was a stoner before I was a stoner and still think I’m a stoner years after the last time I stoned.

        Garr

        September 12, 2016 at 4:43 am

  2. Are there that many old Russian prole Jews, though?

    If the tide ever turns it will be when Jews become seen as equally white and deplorable as white gentiles, and therefore begin to embrace white identity politics as long as the anti-semitism in the movement is relatively subdued.

    And if that ever happens then I hope all the stereotypes about Jewish verbal and intellectual superiority are true, so that your people will wield your great powers to crush the left once and for all.

    Jason Liu

    September 11, 2016 at 11:22 am

    • There are huge numbers of prole Russian Jews in the outer boroughs.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 11, 2016 at 12:10 pm

    • I hope all the stereotypes about Jewish verbal and intellectual superiority are true, so that your people will wield your great powers to crush the left once and for all.

      The smartest and the most talented of Jews are with the left. There is a reason why the Democratic elite is made up of individuals from value transference industries.

      JS

      September 11, 2016 at 2:08 pm

      • The smartest and most talented of white gentiles are with the left. The left owns the elite.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 11, 2016 at 9:39 pm

      • Wrong about Jews as usual.

        Politically conservative, non-Orthodox, Jews are more intelligent than non-Orthodox Jews.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 11, 2016 at 11:59 pm

      • Like who? Name a politically conservative Jew in office. I do not know of any.

        JS

        September 12, 2016 at 9:21 am

      • You’re arguing about two different things averages vs elite. Its possible for conservative jews to be on average smarter than liberal ones (TUJ is saying something even weaker than that) and that the smartest jews are mostly or even entirely liberal.

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 10:58 am

    • It keeps starting to turn, and then the Nazis pop out of the woodwork and spoil it. If you look at the polls the Republicans had a steadily rising share of the Jewish vote for the last few elections. Romney was up to 30. I don’t think Trump will do so well.

      Already happened once, sort of. The neocons were pretty effective fighting against communism. I lost all sympathy for them when they started the Iraq war.

      SFG

      September 11, 2016 at 2:13 pm

      • And what percentage of Jewish republican vote do you think is a pro israel and anti muslim immigration thing vs pro european civillization and pro white christians thing?

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 12:13 am

      • Jews are not pro-Christian because it’s not their religion.

        I think very few Republican voters, gentile, Jewish or whatever, think in terms of being “pro European civilization”.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 12, 2016 at 12:40 am

      • And what percentage of Jewish republican vote do you think is a pro israel and anti muslim immigration thing

        Fewer than the percentage of altrightists who are voting for Trump because they are pro-Putin and pro-Muslim traitors to the United States.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 1:32 am

      • They don’t think in terms of their connection to other European countries (lord knows they don’t travel much) but they very much identify as white Americans and have a deep emotional investment in the future of the country. I think there are definitely a sizeable portion of jewish republicans (and even democrats) who think that way but a much larger portion of jewish republicans are just obsessed with Israel. The same way that a huge portion of Cuban republicans just hate Castro.

        Actually liking America and liking white people is a white christian thing. It’s ridiculous to argue that whatever percentage of jewish voters and jewish elites supporting republicans points to some sort of alignment of values when the reasons for their support are totally different from white christian republicans.

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 11:10 am

      • Jews are not pro-Christian because it’s not their religion.

        I’m pro white christian. And lord knows plenty of white Christians support even the swarthiest of jews.

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 11:12 am

      • I’m pro white christian.

        You’re so pro white Christian that your #NeverTrump sentiments have you drooling at the thought of a Democrat president making at least three Supreme Court appointments?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      • I’m not never Trump. I think Trump sucks and I think he’ll lose but I hope he wins. He’s certainly preferable to any other conservative candidate.

        Magnavox

        September 13, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    • There are plenty of prole Jews, not just among immigrants. They identify more with their prole brethren than they do with their Jewish brethren.

      They are ignored by a lot of Jews. They are not religious and are not financially or professionally successful, just quietly drifting through life like most everybody else.

      Daniel

      September 11, 2016 at 5:09 pm

  3. IHTG

    September 11, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    • Video is HUGE. The MSM can’t ignore this, can they?

      Two in the Bush

      September 11, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      • They can and they are.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 11, 2016 at 12:30 pm

      • Chris “Why I wrote about John McCain’s health in 2008 (and don’t think we should write about Hillary’s health now)” Cilizza had an about face:

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/

        Magnavox

        September 11, 2016 at 12:56 pm

      • Everybody walks this way when entering a vehicle. Didn’t you know? If you didn’t have ‘deplorable’ vision you wouldn’t see the things all decent people know not to see.

        Curle

        September 11, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      • When it gets this big maybe the big media organs like NYTimes and WashPost will have to cover it, for fear of getting outscooped.

        If Rodham-Clinton really is as sick as many suspect it is yet another indication she doesn’t care at all about the USA or the groups and policies she claims to be “fighting” for. She knows she is too ill to fight for those interests, so if she really did care about them she would have stepped aside and supported someone who shared her views and was healthy enough to champion them. Other democrats should be furious with her.

        Gozo

        September 11, 2016 at 2:44 pm

      • Chris cizzzzzzzzla was forced to recant based on the video.

        Lion of the Turambar

        September 11, 2016 at 4:11 pm

      • They could but they aren’t. It’s all over the networks. I think this shows that the media getting scared that they won’t be able to drag her across the finish line in time and are looking for a chance to replace her.

        Mercy Vetsel (@MercyVetsel)

        September 11, 2016 at 8:18 pm

      • “Chris cizzzzzzzzla ”

        LOL. I see what you did there.

        But isn’t Cilizza a guido? JS likes to claim that IAs are conservative, reactionary, and blue collar. The “guido” Cilizzzzza shows that Staten Island notwithstanding, IAs come in different varieties. “Maryk” as conservative and ethnocentric as any guido in Staten Island, supported Ted Cruz in the primaries, and is not supporting Donald Trump, even though he has the endorsement of Pat Buchanan and the late Phyllis Schlafly – two people I was reading at a time when most guidos had yet to hear their names. In summary: overgeneralizing can lead to stereotyping.

        Maryk

        September 11, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    • MUCH better angle, obv. MSM shows the one where you can¨t see shit.

      Anders Lindqvist

      September 11, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    • The media does address these issues after they have their counter narrative prepared. Sometimes it’s slow, like after the Climategate releases, NBC didn’t address the issue for 10 days so they could prepare their debunking. In this case, the campaign came out with “oh did we forget to mention she has pneumonia?” So even though this was their opening story on NBC news, the gist of it is, she’ll be fine.

      Mike Street Station

      September 11, 2016 at 7:18 pm

  4. Drudge has it posted. I can smell the fear.

    Vincent

    September 11, 2016 at 12:43 pm

  5. Daily Mail and The Independent already picked up on it. this won’t be suppressed one way or another.

    james n.s.w

    September 11, 2016 at 12:57 pm

  6. They had to drag her to the van.

    destructure

    September 11, 2016 at 12:58 pm

    • Some people who have been wounded in combat have been dragged like that. She was out cold. Look at her feet.

      Vincent

      September 11, 2016 at 9:53 pm

  7. guardian just carried it

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/11/hillary-clinton-leaves-911-ceremony-after-feeling-overheated

    i think you meant ti say the *u.s* mainstream media will ignore this (maybe) – i mean its hideous how egregiously partisan the american media is

    james n.s.w

    September 11, 2016 at 1:05 pm

  8. Guidos in Staten Island are probably the most fervent of Trump supporters. 1) Italians have a legacy voting Republican, 2) but Republicans have turned their backs on most proles, 3) Trump is a very pragmatic New Yorker — talks about jobs, living wages for proles, which Guidos love to hear.

    JS

    September 11, 2016 at 1:33 pm

  9. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Lolz

    Daylight stalker

    September 11, 2016 at 1:50 pm

  10. Hillary’s health is deplorable.

    cesqy

    September 11, 2016 at 3:31 pm

  11. First of all, people comparing Jews to blacks/muslims/hispanics: nobody on the alt-right, let alone us Jews here, ever blames blacks/muslims/hispanics for America’s problems. We blame the elites who are 99% white or Jewish. Although, I will admit that I hate black liberals more than I hate white or Jewish liberals and that there is a racial component.

    Blacks/hispanics/muslims get bashed for the very real problems that they really do cause, Jews get bashed for running some giant conspiracy that it mostly imaginary. There is no comparison.

    I say this as somebody who doesn’t think anti-semitism is something worth getting upset about and considers the Alt-Right anti-semitism both trivial outside of the DailyStormer wing and also just as the price of doing business.

    On Trump: polls are mostly starting to converge, but we’re still seeing some polls like the ABC/WaPo poll that has Trump down by 8 and down by 9 when the poll is just of “registered” as opposed to “likely” voters. A fake poll or a legitimate outlier?

    Nate Silver says the race is 3 points nationally. I had it as a 2 point race before I saw the ABC poll, now I don’t know. Remember that Republican friendly Ras also had Trump down by 4 this past week and Trump is down by 1 in the Trump friendly USC poll.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 11, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    • I disagree. While obviously this doesn’t directly apply to anyone here, a huge, disproportionate number of liberal pundits and media people are Jewish. (Again: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU GUYS [or Gothamette].) A lot of this has to do with fear of the Nazis (founded), Southern conservatives (less founded), or evangelicals (much less founded). This alt-right Pepe business isn’t helping things, either. These guys can point to Jon Stewart, Debbie Wasserman Schulz, Chuck Schumer, Betty Friedan, and so on and say, “see? the Jews are ruining America with liberalism.” The alt-right thinks ethnically, so explanations like ‘a combination of left-wing Protestants, minorities that want a larger welfare state, and Jews’ tend to be a lot harder to wrap their minds around than ‘Jews’. It’s the tribal module, it’s quite natural for people to fall into because we were made to wage wars with other family groups.

      Then to further prove them right a lot of the few Jews who were on the right (the Kristols, Podhoretzes, Ben Shapiro, etc.) went and turned on Trump, probably because they were getting concentration-camp Pepe cartoons from these guys.

      Interestingly, if you read Catholic or Orthodox writers, they tend to blame the Protestants, because they think religiously.

      SFG

      September 11, 2016 at 10:48 pm

      • The alt-right thinks ethnically, so explanations like ‘a combination of left-wing Protestants, minorities that want a larger welfare state, and Jews’ tend to be a lot harder to wrap their minds around than ‘Jews’.

        That explains the rational sector of the Alt-Right, and while I don’t really agree with them, I understand them, even Kevin McDonald. But it simply is not what motivates the 4chan/DailyStormer wing.

        The 4channers hate the Jews first and find the reasons afterwards. The normal alt-right either doesn’t care about Jews or *dislikes*, not hates, them because of things that they blame the Jews for. With the 4chan wing it is reversed: they hate the Jews so they blame them for everything. In fact, the moderate Judeophobes like Roissy and Vox are so different from the Nazi wing that they could more properly be described as entirely separate movements; but due to the craziness of our current political system we have a situation where Jews are part of the same movement as people whose platform is basically “Holocaust II”.

        Otis the Sweaty

        September 12, 2016 at 5:45 am

      • The rise of Trump and the right-wing parties in Europe are a reaction to open borders, turbo capitalism and political correctness, all of which were embraced by both the progressives and the mainstream right. Ordinary people are coming to believe that they’re not represented by either of the dominant political philosophies (and they’re correct).

        Trump’s base used to be the base of the Democrat Party. The right wing parties in Europe used to receive 2-3% of the vote and now they’re getting 15-25%. The reason this is occurring is because they see their countries being transformed before their very eyes, and they don’t like it. The elites have complete and utter contempt for them and the traditions of the countries they govern.

        The professors and journalists believe that this right-wing backlash is due to intolerance and bigotry. It’s not. It’s due to large numbers of people being fed up with massive immigration, job outsourcing, economic anxiety and elitist arrogance.

        Lewis Medlock

        September 12, 2016 at 1:45 pm

      • “The alt-right thinks ethnically, so explanations like ‘a combination of left-wing Protestants, minorities that want a larger welfare state, and Jews’ tend to be a lot harder to wrap their minds around than ‘Jews’.”

        There is an opportunity here for intelligent right-wing Jews to take advantage of this mindset. Construct a tribe (as a category) that serves as the intersection of all these progressive groups that excludes right wing Jews.

        Cultural marxists almost suffices but no real tribe has a name that long.

        Leftists almost suffices but again, how can a tribe be based purely on which side of the aisle you sat in a French King’s Court? A bonus would be if the name was only one syllable long.

        Same with elites but again, not all we seek to label as this tribe are elite.

        Liberals is the go to now I imagine but the name doesn’t exactly match the behaviour (or principles) of those now carrying it.

        Communists worked in the past, but today’s left aren’t real communists.

        Marxo-Capitalists perhaps?

        Doing this is harder than you would think. Constructing a tribe also requires constructing a history to go along with it.

        chris

        September 14, 2016 at 8:43 am

    • I think the people here generally want to limit black/muslim/hispanic numbers and influence because of the problems they cause but are ambivalent or opposed to limiting jewish numbers and influence even though those two positions are hard to reconcile. Now Lion is trying to pretend like he’s been some kind of friend to black people this whole time.

      Magnavox

      September 11, 2016 at 11:56 pm

      • There is a difference between criticizing Jews which is always legitimate and even healthy, and DailyStormer style “kill all Jews” stuff. Nobody, even DailyStormer types says “gas all blacks”. There is also a difference between saying that individual Jews have made significant contribution to our current problems and saying that the Jewish community as a collective is running a conspiracy against white America.

        Blacks and Jews do not get criticized the same way. Live in the Jewish neighborhood and they might annoy you, live in a back neighborhood and they might KILL you (although blacks are overwhelmingly good people). Jews are wrongly blamed as a collective for the (admittedly very damaging) behavior of a small minority of them whereas blacks correctly get blamed for the damaging effects they have as a race.

        I’m not a fan of American Ashkenazic Jews, even though I am one. I don’t believe they should have ever been allowed in America and I believe they have caused far more problems than they have solved. But they aren’t running the show here and they aren’t nearly as powerful or damaging as they are made out to be. If every Jew disappeared from America tomorrow, all the problems of 2016 America would still be here.

        Otis the Sweaty

        September 12, 2016 at 5:36 am

    • Wait a minute, that’s a strange thing to say on a 9/11 anniversary. The whole reason those terrorists made it onto the plane was blacks’ incessant complaining about “profiling.” There was no way the ban on profiling was ever going to be confined to blacks, and sure enough it was extended to Arabs, such that the guy taking tickets in Boston explicitly said he felt guilty about stopping people he knew were somehow “wrong.” Blacks are in one way or another the reason for every serious problem this country has. Elites are the people who made it impossible to say “no” to them.

      Marty

      September 12, 2016 at 12:12 am

  12. Scot Adams says it is over for Hilarry , because fainting the 9/11 will scare to vote most americans even democrat .

    In france we elected in 1981 a president who had 2 cancer and could only work one hour a day . But only cognoscenti knew and the press never talked. He had two families and nobody spoke. There were a movie on TV about a french president having two families and no one talked . The lay people knew nothing !
    Your vert lucky to have a free press …. (I hope Trump would respect it if elected)

    Bruno from Paris

    September 11, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    • He says things are over for her and then when she keeps doing fine he says that things really were over for her but she must have hired some super secret ninja level persuader who despite being the most skilled political operative in history left absolutely no evidence of his being hired by the campaign (except for the lack of the imminent demise predicted by Adams).

      Magnavox

      September 12, 2016 at 11:02 am

    • He says things are over for her and then when she keeps doing fine he says that things really were over for her but she must have hired some super secret ninja level persuader

      Adams was one of the few pundits to predict Trump would win the nomination.

      Which other pundit has a better track record? According to 538 statistical model, the Democrats controlled the Senate after the 2014 midterms.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 12, 2016 at 5:43 pm

  13. I had posted this on the iSteve site a couple of weeks ago:

    Haaretz, Aug 26:

    “The only group Trump is doing well is among Orthodox Jewish voters (6 percent of the Florida Jewish electorate). According to the [GBA Strategies] poll, Trump leads Clinton 66-22 percent among Orthodox Jews. Among all non-Orthodox voters, Clinton leads Trump 77-22.”

    It’s hard to believe less religious American Jews don’t see how Muslims are targeting not just European Jews but European civilization itself and not have some affection for Trump’s policies on immigration. Has “never again” gone the way of the flip-phone?

    Mark Caplan

    September 11, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    • A lot of Jews are more afraid of white supremacists than Muslims.

      Actually, in Europe, you can see the reverse–they’re more afraid of Muslims than Frenchmen, and so the FN and UKIP are actually pulling some Jewish support.

      But American Muslims haven’t really targeted Jews. Probably because of the larger distances, we get higher-class Muslims and they assimilate better. Meanwhile, these WN guys are still sending antisemitic messages to Jews over here.

      And there’s the annoying bleeding-heart thing which I find as irritating as you. Tikkun olam and all that.

      SFG

      September 11, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    • Trump leads Clinton 66-22 percent among Orthodox Jews.

      So ethnocentric Jews are conservative after-all?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 11, 2016 at 11:58 pm

  14. She may have sinus cerebral thrombosis (blood clot ) : that explain fainting , memory losses and strange beahaviour .
    It s rare and really bad ….

    Bruno from Paris

    September 11, 2016 at 5:37 pm

  15. Interesting that these prole Jews are attracted to Trump’s anti-Muslim immigration stance. This very much appeals to me as well. But most Jews are SWPL types and are appalled at the idea of limiting Islamic immigration.

    Jay Fink

    September 11, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    • So they’re suicidal. But why do they have to take us with them?

      Vincent

      September 11, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    • So they’re suicidal. But why do they have to take us with them?

      Because as we see in Europe you goyim will throw yourselves over the cliff without us.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 11, 2016 at 11:26 pm

      • That assumes that America doesn’t influence foreign countries which obviously isn’t true.

        And American conservatives love to portend doom for european societies because their thriving success disproves so much right wing orthodoxy. For years this took the form of predicting the imminent collapse of their supposedly unsustainable social systems. I’m not saying that immigration there is not deeply worrying and doesn’t have potential to really wreck their societies but at this point it’s really not that bad there yet and the dire predictions about immigration have just taken the place of previous uninformed prophecies.

        Magnavox

        September 12, 2016 at 10:56 am

      • That assumes that America doesn’t influence foreign countries

        It doesn’t assume any such thing because Western Europe began importing immigrants before we altered our immigration laws in 1965. And even the 1965 act was probably not intended to dramatically change American demographics – for the first decade after the law a plurality of immigrants were backlogged Italian immigrants and the act never led to annual legal immigration levels higher than 600,000 until it was raised to 1 million by Bush I. Also, half of all Hispanics in the US are either illegal immigrants or descended from illegal immigrants, and amnestied illegal immigrants. The ’65 act was passed when illegal immigration wasn’t anticipated and wasn’t a factor until Carter’s time in office.

        I’m not saying that immigration there is not deeply worrying and doesn’t have potential to really wreck their societies

        Western Europe’s demographics are only better than America because they were 100% white after WWII while we were already ~10% black.

        Today, Britain, France, the Low Countries, and Sweden are down to about 85% white. The rest of Western Europe is barely at 90%. If Western Europe had also been 10% black in 1946 like we were, countries like Britain would be, at best, 75% white. Probably more like 70% given that blacks would almost certainly have had higher birth rates in the post-war era than white Europeans.

        but at this point it’s really not that bad there yet and the dire predictions about immigration have just taken the place of previous uninformed prophecies.

        A great point if only ISIS hasn’t demonstrated those “uniformed prophecies” WERE correct.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 5:51 pm

      • Western Europe’s demographics are only better than America because they were 100% white after WWII while we were already ~10% black.

        Today, Britain, France, the Low Countries, and Sweden are down to about 85% white. The rest of Western Europe is barely at 90%. If Western Europe had also been 10% black in 1946 like we were, countries like Britain would be, at best, 75% white. Probably more like 70% given that blacks would almost certainly have had higher birth rates in the post-war era than white Europeans.

        Thank you for providing evidence for my point. Another key thing is that american blacks are much worse by just about any rational measure than any group in europe, with the possible exception of gypsies. It’s way too simplistic to just look at at in terms of white/nonwhite (a distinction that really begins to break down anyway when you start looking at hispanics and MENAs)

        A great point if only ISIS hasn’t demonstrated those “uniformed prophecies” WERE correct.

        And now you’re back to cookie cutter right wing idiocy. Terrorism is not that significant. European countries are still vastly safer than the US and that would be the case if terrorism multiplied there many times over. And the “uniformed prophecies” I was referring to were about collapse of social programs and have nothing to do with terrorism or ISIS.

        Magnavox

        September 13, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    • It’s a combination of thinking that white christians are uniquely hostile and dangerous to jews, that any genocide is unlikely in a pluralistic society, and that anti jewish genocide is unlikely if you stoke as much non antisemtic antagonism between as many different groups as possible. The only one that is rational, in my opinion, is the last.

      Magnavox

      September 12, 2016 at 12:09 am

      • and that anti jewish genocide is unlikely if you stoke as much non antisemtic antagonism between as many different groups as possible.

        That’s false, both in theory and in hard data. Jews also want immigration restrictions according to polls.

        Even as speculation, it makes no sense for Jews to be pro-immigration for tribalistic reasons when a racial power vacuum always leads to political instability and when urban areas where Jews live have been much more negatively impacted by immigration than Evangelical white areas have been.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 12, 2016 at 1:36 am

      • TUJ makes some very weak arguments to support his stance.

        In NYC, Jewish lawyers, Jewish landlords, Jewish businesses, Jewish politicians, Jewish elites in general, have all benefited immensely from non-White immigration.

        I see no threat from non-Jewish immigrants when it comes to welfare subsidies for ultra religious Jews. In fact, ultra-religious Jews are the most privileged when it comes to welfare, more than any other group, regardless of the number of other groups entering the United States. And they have more kids than an average NAM family, where their population are increasing as we speak.

        JS

        September 14, 2016 at 2:27 pm

      • Unless TUJ wants to distinguish secular Jews and Hasidics. The former have families with a few kids or no children and the latter with large families. Hasidic beget many children, because some of them will drift and become secular.

        JS

        September 14, 2016 at 2:30 pm

      • Secular Jews in New York City have few kids, as do secular gentiles in New York City.

        Secular Jews living in the midwest have more kids.

        In Europe, where there are hardly any Jews at all, the birthrate is lower than in the United States.

        Yes, I am sick and tired of Jews being criticized for stuff that gentile whites do also.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 14, 2016 at 4:20 pm

      • Yes, I am sick and tired of Jews being criticized for stuff that gentile whites do also.

        The alt-right doesn’t criticize gentile whites as much because they see them as being more white genetically & phenotypically, and because they blame the cultural liberalism of elite Gentiles on post-1950 Jews changing the cultural norms of America, and by extension, the World.

        In other words, they feel that Jews are benefiting at a tribal level, from multiculturalism, while white gentile liberals are just useful idiots or race traitors

        The reality is a lot more complicated, but that’s the narrative you need to debunk

        pumpkinperson

        September 14, 2016 at 7:36 pm

      • Secular Jews outside of the liberal centers are an insignificant demographic. Most Jews live in NYC, the mid Atlantic States and California, all liberal and the majority of Jews in these area are upper middle class or above.

        Even many prole Jews in NYC do very well, particularly the religious types. Modern Orthodox Jews who live on the LES, are residing in a neighborhood coveted by SWPLs. Ultra-religious Jews receive more welfare entitlements than NAMs. They get 1st priority when it comes to affordable housing.

        JS

        September 14, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      • Yes, I am sick and tired of Jews being criticized for stuff that gentile whites do also.

        If you’re going to spend time moderating every single comment, why don’t save yourself the trouble and just ban the commenters, like this idiot, JS, who won’t accept the obvious fact that secular Jews who intermarry at rates over 71% are NOT ethnocentric.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 14, 2016 at 11:54 pm

      • Secular Jews in New York City have few kids, as do secular gentiles in New York City.

        And a major reason New York’s secular Jews have fewer children is because non-white immigration has driven up the cost of raising children. The Orthodox ignore the cost because of religious pressure from rabbis to have as many children as possible.

        If New York were as white as it was in the 1950s, secular Jews could afford more children. For one thing, they could put them in white public schools instead of paying $20,000 for private schools in Manhattan, a cost that limits how many children ordinary Jews can have.

        That immigration has radically altered urban areas the most and depressed secular Jewish American birth rates is proof immigration, even in theory, does not advance their “ethnic interests”, except to the paranoid who refuse to see that liberal Jews are NOT tribalistic.

        By contrast, the heartland still reflects the old black-white demographic split and raising white children there is still relatively cheap compared to New York.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 15, 2016 at 12:02 am

      • This is a very good observation.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 15, 2016 at 12:32 pm

      • All of the factors listed in Sailer’s “affordable family formation” – good public schools, cheap housing, low crime, high trust – have been made far worse by non-white immigration for urban Jews than heartland whites.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        September 15, 2016 at 12:05 am

      • One thing that separates Guidos from Staten Island and proles Jews who live on the Lower East Side is the proximity to the Elite Manhattan Establishment. Italian proles are disadvantaged geographically. Furthermore, most SWPLs could care less of Staten Island and its prole homes, and would never live there. The Lower East Side is an area coveted by young White Gentile professionals, and some of the prole Jews living in those cooperatives for decades, have now sold their units to them and gotten a good deal from it. Here is a scenario where SWPLs are living next to prole Jews.

        How much did they fetch for their apartments? As much as 1/2 million dollars!

        Moreover, this is what separates Italian Proles in Little Italy and Jewish Proles on the Lower East Side.

        Many Italians lived in their tenement walkups and they did not own it. Jewish Proles lived in their cooperatives, where they were shareholders and were able to eventually sell them, because SWPL transplants wanted to live in that area and created this real estate market.

        So Lion is wrong to say that prole Jews do not have it good. Or Yakov would say, Jews get the best of everything.

        JS

        September 15, 2016 at 12:15 am

      • There are only a tiny handful of prole Jews still living in the Lower East Side (there are a few co-op buildings on far east, near some black housing projects). Most prole Jews in the New York City area live in Staten Island and other areas where they live side-by-side with Italian guidos.

        And it’s also not true that Jews were more likely to own than Italians. My parents always told me the opposite, that Jews were renters, while the Italians bought those semi-attached houses all over the guido areas of Brooklyn.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 15, 2016 at 12:35 pm

      • And Gothamette is right. A secular prole Jew in NYC is almost non-existent.

        JS

        September 15, 2016 at 9:09 am

      • This is totally false, there are loads of secular prole Jews in Staten Island who blend in with the guidos.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 15, 2016 at 12:38 pm

  16. Also the Sephardic Israeli immigrants, it is basically same as in Israel, the Russians, Sephardic and Orthodox lean to the right while the Ashkenazi ones are on the left.

    Hashed

    September 11, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    • What you say is true but there are always exceptions. I am Ashkenazi and from a Reform/secular background. As far as you can get from being Orthodox. Yet I can’t stand the left and I love Trump more than any Presidential candidate in my lifetime.

      Jay Fink

      September 12, 2016 at 4:11 am

  17. I hope the prole Jews show their hatred for the media Jews who are covering up Hillary’s COLLAPSE.

    Because if there is a serious backlash against treasonous elites (many of whom are Jews), it is the prole Jews’ heads that will bleed while Zuck stays safe behind his walls.

    fakeemail

    September 11, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    • We’ll see. I suspect Trump, if he wins, will have his hands so full dealing with illegal immigrants he won’t have much time to exterminate Borough Park.

      SFG

      September 11, 2016 at 10:54 pm

      • Trump = Hitler. Complete nonsense. 99% of the alt-right is backing Trump. Yet, at the same time, 99.9% of Trump supporters are not alt-right.

        Lewis Medlock

        September 12, 2016 at 2:29 pm

  18. The former British Chief Rabbi talked about the death of the West due to declining birth rates recently. Some of you may be interested in what he has to say.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/06/falling-birth-rates-could-spell-end-of-the-west—lord-sacks/

    prolier than thou

    September 12, 2016 at 3:49 pm

  19. Following the Satmar Hasidic Dynasty, this documentary explores the ultra-orthodox Jewish group’s dealings and the corruption that surrounds them.

    Rifleman

    September 13, 2016 at 5:40 am

    • And many Jews in Israel are fed up with the ultra-orthodox who won’t fight in the army. They also consider them leeches.

      What does this have to do with prole Jews in Brooklyn supporting Donald Trump? What’s the purpose of linking to this video except to make Jews look bad?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 13, 2016 at 8:14 am

      • Apparently and unsuprisingly, Hasids love Trump:

        https://news.vice.com/article/why-some-hasidic-jews-are-loving-donald-trumps-campaign

        Hasidics vote like most proles, unless Democrats promise them more generous benefits.

        There’s a reason why Hasidics do well for themselves, by claiming welfare status and working off the books. Something that Yakov would encourage. And not to knock on them, smarter immigrant groups, perhaps like the Chinese are known for their welfare fraud. Russian Jews are in the game as well.

        Essentially, welfare fraud isn’t notorious among White Gentiles!

        JS

        September 14, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      • @JS

        Stop putting words into my mouth. Pay attention to my drift instead.

        Yakov

        September 14, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      • Interesting video. I think it’d true.

        Yakov

        September 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm

  20. i go to comment and see:

    “88 Responses”

    88

    pepe is so not touching that…

    jews for trump are ok.

    pepe for jews

    September 14, 2016 at 1:57 am

  21. And prole Christians in Europe in the 1930s just loved Hitler too.

    Your point being?

    Martin L.

    September 14, 2016 at 2:20 pm


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