Lion of the Blogosphere


Monday night’s debate is going to be HUGE. They are expecting a mass audience of 100 million viewers.

Opportunities for Trump:

1. This is Trump’s chance to actually speak directly to voters instead of having the biased media who hates him report on what he’s doing. What the media calls “racist” will sound like common sense to most voters without the liberal news media filter.

2. Hillary could have a health episode during the debate.

Dangers for Trump:

1. Biased moderators who will be out to get him.

2. Hillary has been preparing for this debate a lot more than Trump. She will be prepared with all sorts of traps for him. She will have a greater knowledge of policy and international affairs and will be able to make Trump look stupid and unprepared.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 25, 2016 at 5:40 PM

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  1. Trump should only follow the format of the debate as long as it suits him. If the moderators won’t raise an issue that Trump cares about, and that will appeal to the masses, Trump should just raise it impromptu and wave off the moderators if they object. Trump should go in there with the attitude, “This is my stage, I own it.” My hunch tells me he will do just that.


    September 25, 2016 at 5:43 PM

    • Exactly. The moderators will craft gotcha questions, which he should call them on. They will loft softballs to Hillary, which he should call them on. They will avoid big issues like trade, which he should call them on.


      September 25, 2016 at 6:09 PM

    • Bitchy women bitchily displaying their “greater knowledge of policy and international affairs” are all the more hateful for it, so we should hope she really goes all out in this direction. Trump’s response can then be, “Yeah, alright, well, I’ll talk to my boys and we’ll deal with all that, don’t worry. We’ll take care of it.”


      September 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM

      • He hires only the most qualified and talented, not the “boys” or the big donors.


        September 25, 2016 at 7:12 PM

      • He hires only the most qualified and talented, not the “boys” or the big donors.

        His economic team is almost all big donors.


        September 26, 2016 at 2:30 AM

      • “my guys” then.


        September 26, 2016 at 4:54 AM

      • His economic team is almost all big donors.

        They’re not big enough for him to be controlled.


        September 26, 2016 at 12:56 PM

  2. Trump should goad illary into raising her voice by, say, talking over her or raising unpleasant topics that anger her. Ideally it causes a seizure and she’s cooked — automatic Trump win. But even if illary doesn’t stroke out, let Americans hear, again and again, that nauseating screech. A full 1.5 hours of illary will make 100% of men vote Trump.


    September 25, 2016 at 6:07 PM

    • If she tries to play the woman card I would to see Trump excoriate her for Bill’s alleged treatment of women and her alleged helping to harass those women into silence. Exposing her as a hypocrite on stage is sure to blow a mental gasket in her.


      September 25, 2016 at 10:05 PM

    • I think Lion is all wrong and Trump better hope for a seizure.

      Otherwise the viewers will just see two media professionals who spent most of the year getting coached and interviewed and viewer wont be able to tell much of a difference between the two. And delivery is far more important than message,

      VIewer dont know what to think: Which is where the the press will step in.

      There will only be four clips out of this and I am guessing they give it to Hillary 3-1. And maybe some fact checking on Trump. Dont forget that 4 years ago somehow celebrity (and otherwise) twitter posts were news.

      Trump “wins” if the media fall out from this is no more than Thursday.

      Lion of the Turambar

      September 26, 2016 at 7:32 AM

  3. This is how I predict the debate questions will go.

    “Mr. Trump, why are you such a hateful racist?”

    “Madame Secretary, tell us again what a great job you did bringing peace and freedom to the Middle East.”

    “Mr. Drumpf, why do you hate women so much?”

    “Madame Secretary, as the smartest and most qualified woman in history, how many great things will you do in your first 100 days?”

    “Vulgar Donald, why are you so terribly vulgar?”


    September 25, 2016 at 6:12 PM

    • That was Megan Kelly’s plan to take out Trump in the first Republican Primary debate. Didn’t quite work.

      Mike Street Station

      September 25, 2016 at 8:28 PM

  4. Opportunity for Trump: the expectations that he knows ANY policy details are so low, that simply showing up and looking like a reasonably plausible choice for president will be a plus.

    Danger for Trump: no matter how well he does, the media is going to report that he “badly lost” the debate, even if Clinton passes out or has come kind of seizure.

    And there is always the possibility she will back out at the last minute, citing a “stomach virus” or something when her handlers realize she can’t make it through the full 90 minutes on her feet.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    September 25, 2016 at 6:13 PM

    • In some ways, the bar is lower for Trump when it comes to foreign policy and policy details in general, just as it was for Obama and Bush before him. The newbie gets credit for knowing anything. Unless of course, they pull a Johnson and don’t know what Aleppo is or something else obvious.

      Mike Street Station

      September 25, 2016 at 8:27 PM

      • The bar is also really low because he’s given every indication that he’s incredibly ignorant of and disinterested in policy and world affairs.


        September 26, 2016 at 2:31 AM

      • Magnavox means “uninterested”. Given his global investments, he certainly has an interest in affairs.

        Economic Sophisms

        September 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM

      • “Magnavox means “uninterested”. Given his global investments, he certainly has an interest in affairs.”

        You are talking Melanie, right?

        Lion of the Turambar

        September 26, 2016 at 2:24 PM

      • You’re right I did use the wrong word. I don’t think whatever investment knowledge he has really translates much into the role of president.


        September 26, 2016 at 5:53 PM

  5. I don’t agree with any of this nay saying.

    First of all, there will only be one moderator: Lester Holt. As far as I know. He is pretty sharp, and will be fair. He’s not Candy Crowley. He’s aware that he’s on the spot.

    If Trump does moderately well the MSM will give him his due, as they did Romney. In fact, I think that Romney got set up in the first debate. I remember Auster saying that he didn’t think that Obama was as terrible as the press said he was. He then came back to win the 2nd debate, because the cuck Romney didn’t follow up.

    If Trump loses it’s because he really did come unprepared. But I don’t think he will. I think he’s taking this very seriously and will shock us with his gravitas. But he won’t let Crooked Hillary get away with any shit.


    September 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM

  6. I agree. Trump should definitely bring up important issues that the MSM has been avoiding, such as the email scandal, her contemptuous treatment of rape victims, etc., impromptu, and not allow his opponent and the possibly-biased moderators to dictate the tone and narrative of the debates. The more surprised the attacks, the truer her nature will come out, as long as those attacks are based on fact. She wants to hide behind an overly-prepared facade, and he should try to shatter it.


    September 25, 2016 at 7:03 PM

    • I don’t think it helps him at all to throw more right wing echo chamber shit against the wall hoping that some of it sticks. Or even more ridiculously that she breaks down and admits to it all like in a movie.


      September 26, 2016 at 2:33 AM

      • Mitt took the high road in the debates, avoided any mention of Benghazi or other “right wing echo chamber shit” and look how much good that did him.


        September 26, 2016 at 10:09 AM

  7. I’m not optimistic Lion. Trump really isn’t a very good debater. He should hammer home globalism and the costs of free trade/.mass immigration, etc. Unfortunately, I think Clinton will do pretty well. We’ll see how this goes….


    September 25, 2016 at 8:43 PM

    • I agree. I don’t think he has any chance of coming off as the bigger wonk who is more knowledgeable about (or even interested in) the issues. Populist issues are the only ones where that actually helps because he can just argue (largely accurately) that the experts are corrupt and self serving.


      September 26, 2016 at 2:40 AM

    • The debate is pretty much useless. It’s just a spectacle for the prolier types with their beer, pizza or whatever. Most voters are already set on their minds as to whom they will pick on election day.

      America is irreparable, and it’s heading to a Latin Americanization. The only thing one hopes for are states that are becoming Chile, Uruguay and Argentina. Let the South turn into a Brazil, or perhaps the Midwest as well, as blacks are migrating to Middle America, because any black infested nabe is already a congo.


      September 26, 2016 at 11:38 AM

      • Actually the “prolier” the individual, they less they care about some boring ol’ presidential thingy. They’re watching Ice Road Truckers.


        September 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM

      • Many White proles will be watching the debate and cheering on for Trump. You can bet the Staten Island Crowd are at it tonite.

        ~ 80% of Meriproles are watching the Clinton vs Trump debate.


        September 26, 2016 at 5:53 PM

  8. I’ve heard if you really want to know who won, you should watch with the sound off. Anyone want to do this?


    September 25, 2016 at 10:57 PM

    • I would, but then, I’m not really an objective observer.


      September 26, 2016 at 12:32 PM

  9. Trump has never debated one-on-one in his life. Clinton has done that multiple times starting with her Senate campaign.. Also was a litigator.

    Trump did very well in the GOP debates by hogging the floor. One-on-one that will be hard to do.


    September 26, 2016 at 12:20 AM

    • She was a bad litigator. Bad enough that the Rose law firm steered her away from litigation and into back office work.

      “Aside from the obvious “rat’s ass” jokes, the experience shook Hillary. Though her defense was reasonably able and well crafted, she was “amazingly nervous” in front of the jury, according to Hubbell. In fact, she was not a particularly good litigator, hardly light on her feet before judge and jury. There had been signs of it during the Barrister’s Trial with Bill, and the Rose firm began steering her practice toward non-jury work, and she appeared in court only infrequently.” A Woman In Charge, by Carl Bernstein, pp 130-132


      September 26, 2016 at 1:30 AM

      • I realize that you’re quoting Bernstein, but can someone explain the “rat’s ass” jokes?

        I can see why she wasn’t a good litigator, and why she failed the DC bar exam, a fact revealed by Bernstein. Hillary is your quintessential good little girl eternal student/follower. Not a leader. She a back room operator, born and bred.


        September 26, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    • How many cases did she actually litigate in front of a jury? My impression is she was chiefly a rainmaker. In any event, that experience from 40 years ago is not too relevant now.

      I can’t remember her performing impressively in any one-on-one debates. She relies on the press to cover for her. That’s what she’ll do this time.


      September 26, 2016 at 10:14 AM

      • She dominated Bernie

        Otis the Sweaty

        September 26, 2016 at 12:32 PM

      • I heard the opposite – Bernie took her to the cleaners. And he refused to schlong her about the emails.

        Latest revs. are that Obama and Holder both used pseudonyms in corresp. w/her. Obama claimed he knew nothing about the home brew and has been caught in a lie. And no one gives a shit.


        September 26, 2016 at 5:21 PM

  10. She’s a better debater than Trump, and this isn’t like the free-for-all primary debates where attitude and balls can take command. Sad to say, but we really need Hillary wigging out or having a bronchial episode or collapsing or seizing up for this to be good. In other words, an act of god is necessary. Aside from that, the best possibility is a boring neutral event.

    They know this, of course. I wouldn’t be surprised if they shoot her up with a speedball of methamphetamine and diazepam just to get her over this 90 minute hump. That and two pairs of Depends ™ should be enough.


    September 26, 2016 at 2:57 AM

    • “Sad to say, but we really need Hillary wigging out or having a bronchial episode or collapsing or seizing up for this to be good”

      Could happen.


      September 26, 2016 at 5:22 PM

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    September 26, 2016 at 5:27 AM

  12. I predict a weak performance by Trump. This feels like Rocky III where Clubber Lang was training hard while Rocky was enjoying the spotlight.

    I’m certain that Hillary’s handlers have prepared her for a one-on-one with Trump. By appearing informed and merely holding her own she comes out on top, especially with help from the moderator and the press. There are also many pitfalls for Trump and his moto-mouth ensure that he will step in a few.

    Trump’s inability to provide details will make him look unprepared. And they will likely frame questions so that he’s forced to address the specific shortcomings of his own policy plans (Fox employed this tactic well).

    His only real hope is that the force of his personality is sufficient to win people over. My wish is to see him keep his cool.


    September 26, 2016 at 9:09 AM

  13. Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams reversed himself and now says he endorses Trump. Hillary’s pledge to seize 65 percent of the estates of rich people pushed the rich Mr. Adams into the Trump camp. Evidently Adams isn’t as afraid of someone murdering him for backing Trump as he had been, although Adams continues to work in a very dangerous profession:

    “Cartoonist shot dead ahead of trial”

    Mark Caplan

    September 26, 2016 at 10:08 AM


      In an episode broadcast March 28, 1948, Benny borrowed neighbor Ronald Colman’s Oscar, and was returning home when he was accosted by a mugger (voiced by comedian Eddie Marr). After asking for a match to light a cigarette, the mugger demands, “Don’t make a move, this is a stickup. Now, come on. Your money or your life.” Benny paused, and the studio audience—knowing his skinflint character—laughed. The robber then repeated his demand: “Look, bud! I said your money or your life!” Benny snapped back, without a break, “I’m thinking it over!” This time, the audience laughed louder and longer than they had during the pause.

      MEH 0910

      September 26, 2016 at 8:54 PM

  14. Cue hysteria:


    September 26, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    • @IHTG,

      Read this:

      “The first is: do not rely on opinion polls or other forms of crystal-ball gazing. The crassness of the pro-Brexit campaign galvanised millions of voters who did not turn out in previous elections. I have been told that US polling techniques are technically superior to those in the UK. Maybe. But if the decisive factor in an election is turnout, then even the best polls cannot be relied upon. The same goes for betting markets. If there is genuine uncertainty, market mechanisms do not produce any information. It just means that more people are getting it wrong.”

      What you think? I think he’s right. (emphasis added)


      September 26, 2016 at 5:27 PM

  15. Hillary has been preparing for this debate a lot more than Trump. She will be prepared with all sorts of traps for him. She will have a greater knowledge of policy and international affairs and will be able to make Trump look stupid and unprepared.

    this doesn’t matter as much as you think. besides, trump is making the obama 2008 argument: “yes hillary, you have a lot of experience…being wrong”

    he’ll get to ask about her emails/national security, iraq, syria, libya, her recent “foreigners have the right to migrate to america,” statement. what’s her response? she made the right decisions?

  16. just saw a trump surrogate on cnn make a great point wrt expectations. the left/never trump have equated trump to hitler, mussolini, the kkk etc. this means if trump doesn’t call for gassing jews he wins.

    you could see the hillary surrogate realize their rhetorical mistake in real time. lol.

    • if trump doesn’t call for gassing Jews….

      That’s a big “if.”

      Mark Caplan

      September 26, 2016 at 2:52 PM

      • What if he just thinks we should be slapped real hard, on our tuchuses?


        September 26, 2016 at 5:32 PM

  17. Between the two, I think Trump has a lot more to lose tonight. The current tightness in the race is thanks in part to that disaster of a week Hillary had a while back…the one where she collapsed and whatnot. As long as she doesn’t collapse again on stage tonight…which is a real possibility, of course…I see her coming off as poised and sharp compared to Trump.

    Part of the reason Trump was able to own the primary debates was that his opponents were rhetorically hog-tied for all kinds of convoluted reasons…he had them in a position where they just couldn’t say anything right. Because Hillary isn’t a republican, the situation tonight is much simpler. If she goes after him in a Warren-esque manner, kinda like the way she did during her DNC speech…look out.


    September 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM

  18. Trump erred in not supporting Johnson in the debates. Johnson would have focused on Hilary because old-woman socialism and laying goodwill for downticket LP candidates and youth…Trump could have focused on just ignoring or bending the questions to what HE wants to talk about, speaking direct-to-camera to the voter as an older brother figure.

    He still may: not debate but just make his case conversationally that he’s dedicated to American greatness and solving problems, simply ignoring Clinton.


    September 26, 2016 at 12:22 PM

    • “Trump erred in not supporting Johnson in the debates. Johnson would have focused on Hilary because old-woman socialism and laying goodwill for downticket LP candidates and youth…”

      No the purpose of Johnson is to be anti Trump. Johnson has publicly said good things about Clinton and his policy prescriptions, much to the surprise of the small government party that nominated him, are pretty much on par with Hillary’s.

      That and pot.

      If Johnson were there it would be him and Hillary against Trump. That’s the real enemy.

      Mike Street Station

      September 26, 2016 at 4:21 PM

  19. When you read comments and reaction after a political debate it’s remarkable how little attention is paid to substance, and all comes down to the way they look or a well-timed witticism. The most famous example is of course the appearance of Nixon when he took on Kennedy in the first televised debates.

    When I think back to is remembered now of previous debates it is the one liners ‘Senator, you’re no jack Kennedy’ or ‘there you go again’ from Reagan/Carter.

    I guess what I’m tryng to say is that Hillary may not get as much of an advatage by being better informed than Trump. Of course, if you or I were in such a debate and were being intellectually trounced by a better-informed adversary we would probably start to flounder and stutter and fall to pieces. But Trump isn’t reallty that kind of person. Trump has thicker skin and the confidence to believe that if he didn’t know something then he obviously didn’t need to.

    prolier than thou

    September 26, 2016 at 1:09 PM

    • “When I think back to is remembered now of previous debates it is the one liners ‘Senator, you’re no jack Kennedy’ or ‘there you go again’ from Reagan/Carter.”

      Damn you, I was going to write, “there you go again.”

      But you’re right – also physical appearance matters. Did you know that people who listened to the Nixon/Kennedy debates on the radio overwhelmingly thought that Nixon had won? Better speaking voice, and you cdn’t see that 5 o’clock shadow and sweaty face.

      Another great debate moment, not so well remembered, was when George Bush the Elder called Pete du Pont, “Pierre” (his real name), in some debate, I forget which. He might as well have said, “you faggot.”

      Hillary fought for and won a higher podium. She’s gonna be standing on a bucket.


      September 26, 2016 at 5:46 PM

  20. Trump’s best strategy is just to stick to the issues for two reasons: 1) It destroys the whole “Trump is a crazy man, racist, nuke launching, thin-skinned, unfit, etc., blah, blah” nonsense. 2) The voters are with him on most of his issues: the wall, enforcing the law, respecting veterans and police, limiting offshoring of jobs, lower taxes and regulations, develop domestic energy, have a strong military but no nation building. If Trump just hits on his issues over and over with an occasional dig at Clinton’s failures and corruption he will win the debate big time. If the “moderator” or Clinton herself takes cheap shots, personal insults, or tries to dredge up Democrat traps like the Sharia “Gold Star” family or anything like that, Trump should quickly dismiss the issue and start talking about his policies again. Here’s an example:

    Clinton: Gold star family, Islamophobia, Trump is bad, bad man (Hillary wags finger).
    Trump: There is no bigger supporter of veterans and their families than me that’s why polls have shown that most of our troops support me and not my opponent. (Then switch back to a Trump issue) And one issue that’s critically important to our veterans is healthcare. Our vets have been treated horribly by the VA. Illegal immigrants are treated better than our veterans are….(and it’s off to the races!)


    September 26, 2016 at 1:48 PM

  21. 1. Hilary will perhaps have an earpiece telling her how to zing back at Trump.

    2. Hillary will have had advanced access to all the questions, like in the dem debates. Trump, if he’s very intelligent will not only assume it but check her king pulling her off script by rapidly pumping clarification shivs or questions during her canned responses. Or even more audaciously, pointing out the bias of the media and accusing them of feeding her the answers. There was an episode in one of the Republican debates, which I’ve never seen in my life, even in movies, where he as a candidate broke the 4th wall: He literally started attacking the the shill audience and crony moderators. It was the greatest spectacle I’ve ever seen in politics.

    3. Hilary/deep state will have wiretapped trumps camp for their prep. The great thing about trump is that he thinks on his feet though and doesnt need canned material so Hilary can’t even prep too much even with full transparency on his training.

    4. I imagine they’ve thought about poisoning Trump to make him sluggish and tired. He has to be careful what he eats and drinks. They might want him to look sick to cancel out hilary actually being sick.

    5. The audience will be another factor I can’t predict.

    6. Lester Holt will ask a “MAGIC NEGRO: WHY POLICE KILLING US BLACKS” question. Trump has to respond with sincerity and show he is above race.

    7. Hilary will be heavily drugged. They have the best doctors trying to optimise the correct levels of levo-dopa, clonazepam, nootropics and such…it will be a spectacle because there’s a fair to high probability the contraindication of the meds will cause very weird things to happen.

    8. Media will report a win for Hilary and point out assiduously all the “dog whistling”. They will also doctor post debate polls to show Hillary won. No way to respond except check the media within the debate and call them biased. Repeatedly.

    9. Checkmate will be achieved in perception. Trump needs to be calm but talk about tawdry, racy and emotional topics all night to make hr unhinged. In a calm manner. Crime. Riots. Terrorism. Gays being butchered by muslims.

    10. Lester might bring up the birther issue I suspect. Trump will chuck the dynamite at hilary. Lester will reframe and say something like “the birther issue reflects on a DARK side of American politics, do you disassociate from the alt right or something along those lines”. The paint is thrown on the suspect. I don’t know how to respond to this, except to reframe it back to say he is of the light.

    11. Trump should NOT attack MAGIC NEGRO MODERATOR. THEY CHOSE HIM BECAUSE THEIR ILLUSION makes negros the most wordly, honourable, humble and morally SUPERIOR men. Do not attack the illusion of many above average to low verbally intelligent people tonight. He is a meat shield for hilary in a sense. Most of the fire should be aimed at “the media” and hilary. Avoid attacking their sacred object.

    12. A wild card is that if Trump is cleaning hilary’s clock, they’ll send in a Sirhan Sirhan to disrupt the event. Some “white nationalist” or something. Very low probability of this though.

    My main concern is Trump is poisoned. We see that a lot in sporting events in rugby, soccer, boxing and so on. He really really has to make sure whatever he eats and drinks leading up to the debate isn’t spiked. If he feels he’s spiked he needs to announce it in the debate maybe.

    The Philosopher

    September 26, 2016 at 3:51 PM

  22. Trump will annihilate her moraly and ideologically.


    September 26, 2016 at 3:57 PM

  23. >>She will have a greater knowledge of policy and international affairs and will be able to make Trump look stupid and unprepared.

    If this case arises Trump should just pivot to Hillary’s involvement in Libya with the resultant mass refugee invasion of Europe and it’s resultant terrorism and rape. Ditto with Syria and Egypt. Hillary’s involvement in destabilizing the elected government of Ukraine and the resultant war along Russia’s borders, etc. Hillary’s tenure as Secretary of State was a failure on every measure.


    September 26, 2016 at 4:02 PM

  24. My grand mother, who is 101 yo, asked why speakers on the radio are constantly speaking of the frightful american. They’re not so frightful she said. I understood that radio anchors were speaking of the “afro-americain” that will moderate the first Clinton-Trump debate and “afro” sounds like “affreux” in french wich means frightfull, nasty and ghastly 😉

    I’d love to see the debate but it will be 3 am in Paris when it starts, so i’ll check lion site to get an idea of it when i’ll wake up.

    Bruno from Paris

    September 26, 2016 at 4:21 PM

    • a trump victory will be social proof for europeans too.

      that is, trump’s victory makes the victories of other anti-immigration parties more likely…not in the “bayesian” sense…but because the US is the “big man on campus”. if he grows a moustache, the world grows a beard.

      the last apocalyptic president

      September 26, 2016 at 5:08 PM

  25. I think Trump is rising in the polls because he was prescient about immigration problems, race relations, and law and order. The immigrant mall shootings, Charlotte riots, and cop killings/assaults all make him the candidate that knows what he’s talking about. He should tie immigration/law and order to national security since that’s what the topic is tonight.


    September 26, 2016 at 4:27 PM

  26. the possibilities are trump wins or loses the election tonight.

    it’s nov 8 on sept 26.

    a non-definitive outcome is impossible.

    market might fall on tuesday as a result.

    the last apocalyptic president

    September 26, 2016 at 4:54 PM

  27. Monday night’s debate is going to be HUGE.

    i think you meant YUGE.

    the last apocalyptic president

    September 26, 2016 at 5:05 PM

  28. Don’t forget the Houston shooting by the “disgruntled lawyer.” U. Tulsa law.


    September 26, 2016 at 7:01 PM

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