Lion of the Blogosphere

A day after the debate

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I agree with the Scott Adams interpretation.

Although the debate was a blown opportunity for Trump to bring up key topics like immigration and show his unflappability in the face of Hillary’s taunting, the debate was not at all a disaster for Trump.

1. Trump did not appear to be a crazy maniac who will start a nuclear war or an Adolf Hitler or the Grand Dragon of the Klu Klux Klan, which is what everyone has been saying about him.

2. The weird condescending smirk that Hillary had on her face for almost the entire debate surely caused people to dislike her more than they already did. It certainly did not look presidential. Margaret Thatcher didn’t do that.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 27, 2016 at 6:13 pm

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  1. have any posted this?

    if trump had the money…

    this would win the election for him.

    the revolutionary in a sick society is given the moral “high ground” by most…instinctively.


    September 27, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    • the nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony.





      September 27, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    • BTW why are you authorizing this guy’s posts


      September 27, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    • Nothing you post makes any sense.

      Jason Liu

      September 27, 2016 at 6:35 pm

      • He’s about as coherent as Heidegger. His posts remind me of “Being And Nothingness.”

        Lewis Medlock

        September 27, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      • Make that “Being And Time.”

        Lewis Medlock

        September 27, 2016 at 10:21 pm

      • What doesn’t make sense about it? He’s saying he believes that if Trump could afford to run 4-minute ads, the video he posted would win the election. Then he said that in a sick society people instinctively view revolutionaries as having the moral high ground. The song in the video is about the French Revolution, which is why he chose the word “revolutionaries.” His second post quotes Trump from the video.

        So what don’t you guys understand? The only thing that’s unclear to me is whether viewing revolutionaries as having the moral high ground is supposed to be a symptom of sickness or a reaction to it. I assume the latter.

        There’s a difference between something being poorly written/weirdly formatted and it being incomprehensible.

        Rogal Dorn

        September 28, 2016 at 12:37 am

      • Nothing you post makes any sense.

        would you prefer it if i posted in chinese?


        September 28, 2016 at 3:11 am

      • He’s about as coherent as Heidegger. His posts remind me of “Being And Nothingness.” [sc. Being and Time

        there is no higher praise. merci beaucoup messr.

        if you don’t “get” the posts above and the vid, then you have no clue about trump or trump-ism.


        September 28, 2016 at 3:15 am

      • Nay, I-Won, Heidegger’s a Nazi scum-sucker and Sartre’s a Commie scum-sucker. Around these parts Hume’s the man. Like my grandma always said, there’s just four kinds of people — Englishmen, Jews, Hobbits, and Comminazi scum-suckers.


        September 28, 2016 at 12:38 pm

      • Right, Hume’s Scottish, not English. See, I said it before anyone could write, “Hume’s Scottish, you putz.” But “Englishmen” just sounds so neat. There’s no noun like that for “British” that would include Scotsmen. “Brits” is just slang; it doesn’t suggest superiority in the way that “Englishmen” does.


        September 28, 2016 at 8:22 pm

      • But in spite of all temptations
        To belong to other nations,
        He remains an Englishman!
        He remains an Englishman!
        For in spite of all temptations
        To belong to other nations,
        He remains an Englishman!
        He remains an Englishman!


        September 29, 2016 at 12:34 am

    • I don’t feel the imagery compliments the music very well. And yes, I am aware of the context of where that song kicks in during the musical but a totally sung musical is a completely different beast. The music demands celebratory and triumphant images. And I’d confine it to America. The remaining people Trump is trying to win over don’t have the slightest clue about populist national movements in Europe. Final point is that all the video has to be of the same quality. You can’t mix SD in with HD.

      The best Trump video remains this one, though it is far too hardcore for the small pool of moderate and politically disinterested voters Trump is now targeting to wrap this thing up:

      Do You Hear the People Sing is a good song. It just needs better accompanying images that reflect the target audience (comfortably upper middle class white voters from the Northeastern and Midwestern suburbs). Match the music with imagery similar to what Bernie used in his Simon and Garfunkel ad. That’s what these kind of voters like. And of course there isn’t a chance in hell anyone associated with Trump would be granted rights to use the song no matter how much they offered, so this would have to be a user generated creation.


      September 27, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    • you are correct sir.

      the fish rots from the head. how it happened idk, but the establishment has never been more deplorable than it is now. the people running things are simply bad people.

      trump must portray himself as a revolutionary, not as mitt romney with short fingers and a combover.

      when the revolution is portrayed as being “from the people”, the people respond. even if it’s all bs.


      September 28, 2016 at 4:20 pm

  2. It’s interesting to try to count how much of Hillary’s “ammo” she wasted in this debate. Birtherism, taxes, not renting to blacks, Alicia Machado, obscure shit like the China global warming theory. What does she have left? The Trump Foundation stuff I guess, but that opens her up to attack…though now she might think Trump isn’t smart enough to take advantage of that. Oh, and the McCain POW thing maybe.


    September 27, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    • The Alicia Machado thing really did rattle him though. He was still angry about it this morning.

      Otis the Sweaty

      September 27, 2016 at 6:40 pm

      • Why can’t he just laugh it off? It’s a beauty contest. Of course he doesn’t want the winner to get fat anymore than he wants to crown a fat person the winner. I haven’t seen any clips but if what you say is accurate and it got to him it really shows that he has a bad temperament and that the phlegmatic persona we’ve seen over the past month is just an illusion.


        September 27, 2016 at 11:24 pm

      • Alicia Machado is something he should blow off, but instead he wants to make it an issue. There is no winning by talking about it, but Trump wants to justify calling her a fatso. I seldom agree with the establishment types on Morning Joe, but they were right that Hillary threw out bait and Trump chased after every bit of it.

        Mike Street Station

        September 28, 2016 at 8:35 am

    • Agree w/you that Hillary wasted her ammo, but let’s not kid ourselves about Trump’s Presidential demeanor. You can say it doesn’t matter, and maybe it doesn’t, but Presidential he ain’t.


      September 27, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    • Even the mainstream pundit consensus was that she won but Trump held his own. If he could convince them it was a narrow Hillary win, ordinary voters should now be more inclined to vote for him than they were before.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 27, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    • That was my thought, too, after I heard summaries and recaps of the debate (I watched with the sound off). I’m sure Trump knows that people best remember the stuff at the end, remember least the stuff in the middle, and remember second best the stuff at the beginning. He’ll save his powder for the last debate — that’ll be the only one I watch with the sound on. Otherwise, stroke baby stroke!


      September 28, 2016 at 6:12 pm

  3. I just don’t dislike Hillary. She doesn’t bother me at all. Not even a little.

    In contrast, I absolutely loathe Biden and Kasich.

    Hillary won the debate but who cares. What really was important was that Trump looked and acted Presidential, for the most part at least. That was all he needed and all we could have reasonably hoped for.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 27, 2016 at 6:33 pm

  4. Cat ladies love that smirk — it makes them feel in control/soothes their insecurities. I’ve seen Salon actually put out videos on how someone’s expressions looked during political discussions. It’s like the teenage girl mentality to look for social dominance through facial cues.

    Trump should not dignify this by responding so directly to Hillary, but rather attack her by framing and portraying her negatively to the audience.

    Jason Liu

    September 27, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    • Yeah, see this awesome Jim-post on how to deal with your girlfriend when she smirks at you like that (but don’t read the comments at that site, achim; his commenters are all Nazis, but he ain’t):


      September 27, 2016 at 8:55 pm

      • That guy’s entire blog is hilarious.

        Jason Liu

        September 28, 2016 at 2:39 am

      • Garr, You like that guy? Disappointed. He’s nuts.


        September 28, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      • Gothamette, the only things I have against him are his opening up his comments-pages to Nazis and being a dick to B the righteous Religious Zionist and liking China and hating Puritan America. His hitting his girlfriend on the palm with a stick for not wanting to have sex with him, followed by her agreeing to have sex with him, is obviously just a fun game that they were playing. I don’t know what the real solution to the bitch-problem is. It probably starts with about 100 million women losing their jobs and any right to spousal support and child-support in case of a divorce. And a complete end to any “higher education” for women. That’s completely compatible with women knowing a lot and saying smart stuff. Upper-middle-class women in the 18th century were better-read now than they are now.


        September 28, 2016 at 8:45 pm

  5. I think that Hillary gave it her all. As IHTG noted, she launched just about every attack she could have. She came in prepared to the point of being rehearsed and scripted. She held on with her health, although she looked zombie-eyed much of the time, had that weird smirk and occasionally had curious shaking movements. All-in-all, I think she did slightly better than Trump, but I doubt she persuaded much of anyone to back her.

    Trump can win the second and third debates if he reframes the questions. Why are we talking about Trump’s taxes? Why not the Clinton Foundation? Why hasn’t she released her transcripts from Goldman? What about Benghazi? How can she discuss cybersecurity when she screwed up so bad with her private email server?

    I’m disappointed that Trump didn’t do as well as he could have, but he still has it in him to win, whereas I think Hillary’s capacities are increasingly limited. Trump didn’t receive much damage either, so he can’t do this if he reframes the charges that come his way, rather than by reading through them.


    September 27, 2016 at 6:59 pm

  6. Margaret Thatcher was an extremely polarizing figure who irritated her opponents at least as much as Clinton or Trump.

    Herb Dregs

    September 27, 2016 at 7:38 pm

  7. Lion: bomb scare at Charlotte police HQ. This escalates the hate-police atmosphere to a different level, don’t you think? Meanwhile:

    “In 2004, Rakeyia Scott wrote that her husband “assaulted me several times by stabbing me in the back almost puncturing my lungs, he sliced me [sic] ear, and bruised my body,” Fox 46 reported.

    In October of 2015, she wrote, “He hit my 8 year old in the head a total of three times with is [sic] fist… He kicked me and threaten [sic] to kill us last night with his gun. He said he is a ‘killer’ and we should know that.” She also said he carried a 9mm handgun but did not have a permit for it, WSOC reported.”

    This follows the Ferguson model: a total fantasy, falling apart by the minute.


    September 27, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    • The Uptown crowd is begging for residents to come back. We’ve lost conventions because of this, not to mention the fallout from HB2. Reportedly many businesses uptown are going to let some people go and some are teetering, this has been an incredibly hot summer and a lot of people didn’t go out as much so business is off to begin with. The spokesperson even suggested that people who were worried could “park their car, go straight to their favorite restaurant and then straight back to their car”. Thing is much of the parking is in the vicinity of the transit center and there’s a mini riot there every other weekend. Any other parking puts one in less visible, less safe areas. People remember the white guy getting beaten up in the parking garage, they remember the girl who was shot in the head a few weeks ago, all the other assaults uptown and are making the wise decision to avoid it all. There are better, less expensive restaurants all over.

      Thank you black people, you all are just grand.

      2 Minute Alpha

      September 28, 2016 at 7:37 pm

      • What’s the uptown crowd? Trendy SJW whites?

        Who do they employ? Blacks or Latinos?


        September 28, 2016 at 10:39 pm

      • “they remember the girl who was shot in the head a few weeks ago,”

        Who was that? Curious – give names, want to read about this.

        Well, you’ve heard of a gated community? Maybe the next step is to create gated malls. Lion, would that be constitutional?


        September 28, 2016 at 10:41 pm

      • No worries, she died a couple days later

        “Police continue to investigate and have not released a description of a suspect.”

        This is about a mile from ground zero, maybe a little more, not 2 I’m certain.

        Uptown Crowd/Center City crowd are middle aged-aged white liberal, vote Hillary, I got mine Fuck You types. I think most of them are northerners but I might be wrong. Years ago, NationsBank president Hugh McColl kind of got the whole thing rolling, he used to stop in Providence road Sundries when it was a juke joint with a running card game upstairs. He wouldn’t put up with this shit although he was a solid liberal type. Fucker owes me a beer. Charlotte 1985, still had brothels on Independence, still had good old boys with a gun rack in their pickup out towards the southern part of town, no damn “chicago” hot dogs or ketchup based bbq, great time to be here. We were still more Scotch Irish then, just outside the Junior Johnson/White Lightning South era.

        It’s remarkable how the blacks with likely 100 IQ’s have become more pleasant to deal with in the last few days, maybe it’s just me and my mean mug but it sure seems like a certain segment gets that these gangbangers up north went too far this time.

        2 Minute Alpha

        September 30, 2016 at 10:25 pm

      • if you don’t mind, another question.

        What was the reaction of white Charlotte residents to the obviously and blatantly coached nine-year-old Lakeisha who gave a little speech to the Charlotte City Council?

        I could tell that her tears were fake because they stopped and started strategically, and at one point she looked up at her handlers for some guidance. But I’m just curious, how did people in Charlotte react to this?


        October 1, 2016 at 10:08 am

      • Thank you , 2MA. Reading comments from people who are actually there tells me way more than reading the sanitized lying MSM.

        “t’s remarkable how the blacks with likely 100 IQ’s have become more pleasant to deal with in the last few days, maybe it’s just me and my mean mug but it sure seems like a certain segment gets that these gangbangers up north went too far this time.”

        LOL, I know exactly what you’re talking about, because blacks are the same everywhere and because I have seen this for decades. Here is the drill:

        1. Something Bad happens.
        2. Low down blacks get angry and fuck shit up.
        3. Whites cower in fear and give way.
        4. Blacks with 100 IQs join in the fun by glowering at whites and seething.
        5. Whites cower in fear and give more away.
        6. Badwhites get pissed off and react, and their reaction spreads through the white community
        7. Race war seems imminent
        8. Blacks with 100 IQs get the message and pull back
        9. Status quo ante bellum, race war averted

        In the immediate days after Charlotte, when the Keith Lamont Scott of blessed memory had just been martyred, blacks were angry. Oh, I could see it. And you know something – I just returned their anger with mine. This time it’s different. Do you remember the so-called Rodney King riots? When that happened I was still semi-racially guilt-ridden and I did the “violence not justified but anger is” drill.

        Now, I’d say, “shoot the fuckers.” I have no sympathy for them at all, I’m sick of their shit.

        I still have a question – “Who do they employ? Blacks or Latinos?”



        October 1, 2016 at 7:42 am

      • PS Alpha, I read the article and clicked on the victims’ Go Fund Me Page. “She was involved in the cultural immersion program where she taught her children totally in Chinese.”

        Another reason this country is so fucked. Immigrant children should be taught solely in English. Their natal culture should be brutally and thoroughly amputated. I feel sorry for the poor woman but she was involved in a semi-traitorous activity. She should never have been here.


        October 1, 2016 at 7:57 am

    • Uptown is more black workers than latinos. I believe that’s correct, the fast food joints are predominantly black, the hotel workers are mostly black. the better restaurants have mostly latinos back of the house. Whites primarily front of the house. Mexicans work construction and landscaping primarily. I don’t know the absolute numbers but I believe the last census says latins make up 13% of the population and that is just wrong. In my vibrant neighborhood the latino kids waiting for the school bus outnumber the black kids 8-2 I would wager, 4 years ago that was reversed. No white kids, white people live in my neighborhood but all fruitless hipsters.

      I was out east towards Garland a couple months ago to do some shopping at the Brooks Brothers clearance shop and that area has a lot of blueberry farms and the number of latinos was astounding, again the growth over a couple years is just not being captured. Wonder how many were h2-a visas? that’s a trick question, all of the legal ones are.

      Nobody in their right mind is going to publicly call out a weeping 10 year old black girl. I think though a growing number of people are rolling their eyes at it all. People I know are unmoved by it but it kind of came and went.

      It’s hard to express the shock most people are experiencing. Granted the violence of the first 2 nights wasn’t to the levels seen elsewhere, but Charlotte has always been fairly relaxed regarding race relations. Relatively speaking it was a remarkably violent act on our community, some would say a rape. I think many white people (not necessarily liberal) feel completely betrayed and rightfully so. They’ve been going out of their way to address black complaints, and for that segment of the community there is a genuine, heartfelt desire to reach out. We’re a sanctuary city and that’s not necessarily a ploy for cheap labor among a large number of volvo drivers, misguided as it is. The klan was effectively destroyed by the greensboro incident and I had never seen a klan rally before that, I was born in 62.

      We have a black police chief, who replaced a black police chief (who incidentally lied about his college degree and wasn’t fired or punished in any way) with a police department that has an 18% black makeup, granted that’s not matching the general population but it’s not a number to sneer at. A black cop shot a violent black felon refusing to follow orders. The cops are on record that they were going to let the pot slide until they saw the gun. Think about that for a second and then consider, as far as the entire (seemingly) black community and muslim community is concerned, it’s all white people fault. The attitude is not just we haven’t done enough, somehow white people are actively working against black people and by any metric, that’s just nonsense. A lot of white people are just fed up, at least those of us who are from around here are, I’m not sure about the yankees, honestly they all seem to be the ones who grovel before the blacks the most.

      2 Minute Alpha

      October 3, 2016 at 1:26 am

  8. Evil Trump lost to Evil Hillary in a fake debate- this is supposed to disturb someone? If we want to win a debate Trump is the last person who should been nominated and it is a little late for you guys to be crying into your soup about it now.

    If the press has moved on to something else on Thursday, Trump has “won” all he could hope for out of this.

    On the upside: if you were an ISIS sleeper cell is mid-September really the best time to shoot your wad?

    Lion of the Turambar

    September 27, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    • If the press has moved on to something else on Thursday, Trump has “won” all he could hope for out of this.

      The best would be for this narrative to take off:


      September 28, 2016 at 2:50 am

      • Any time talking about Machado is Trump losing. It doesnt matter that there are things about Machado to point out to correct the record or that Trump gets free tv time. Its a losing issue for him.

        I dont know why he doesnt get this after the Kahns and the judge.

        When the talk is about email Hillary is losing. Her health, Clinton foundation, her scams, what she knew when- she is losing as long as those are the topics. Bill’s women,who she attacked, should be given the same lens as Machado.

        Why didnt he bring up the cattle futures? It well document, and its easily understandable. Everyone will see that was a payoff for government favors. And then tie that to Clinton Foundation.

        Lion of the Turambar

        September 28, 2016 at 8:11 pm

      • “Any time talking about Machado is Trump losing. It doesnt matter that there are things about Machado to point out to correct the record or that Trump gets free tv time. Its a losing issue for him”

        Well, he’s supposed to let his surrogates talk about that stuff.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 28, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    • i watched it on youtube.

      trump did as well as hillary.

      except for the tax thing.

      but his speaking style is very elliptical and so may be misinterpreted.

      the Frontline piece on trump is interesting.

      it was said of jim brown that…

      the only one who can stop jim brown is jim brown

      it’s the same for trump. if he loses, it’ll because he wants to lose. for what reasons? idk.

  9. i like the smirking, i just picture all the altsberger types losing their shit watching it


    September 27, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    • Is an “altsberger type” an altright aspie? We aren’t altright here, although our host seems to be a bit confused about the application of the term, the literal meaning of which is “non-exterminationist Nazi”. Anyway, all men hate that bitch-smirk, and in fact all non-man-hating women hate it too. Only bitches like the bitch-smirk; they have at most one child when they’re 38 and are members of the food co-op.


      September 28, 2016 at 7:00 am

      • “Only bitches like the bitch-smirk; they have at most one child when they’re 38 and are members of the food co-op.”

        You tell ’em, Garr. And they vote to boycott Israel!

        (Seriously, Lion, you should do a post on what happens to the Democrats when Hillary and the older pro-Zionist pols die. The Berners arent’ going anywhere. They’re the future of the Democrat party and they are just applying to Israel the same standards that they do to everyone else. That old lovin feeling will be gone. The only thing standing against a Corbyn Democrat party is a few Jewish billionaires. All they need is their Trump to start a populist revolution.)


        October 1, 2016 at 7:46 am

      • This is a major reason why I see Israel as being a doomed country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 1, 2016 at 12:22 pm

      • “This is a major reason why I see Israel as being a doomed country.”

        Don’t worry, Lion. Israel is forging a strong relationship with Russia right now, as we speak. The Arabs are not united, they are not very bright, bad fighters, and Jewish birthrates in Israel are fine. The O’s breed like rabbits and the seculars pick up their run off.

        The doomed community is the non-Orthodox American Jewish community. Not just the low birthrates, but the psychological shock of being expelled from the Democrat party will shatter them.


        October 1, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      • “This is a major reason why I see Israel as being a doomed country.”

        Don’t worry, Lion. Israel is forging a strong relationship with Russia right now, as we speak.

        The doomed community is the non-Orthodox American Jewish community.

        Yes and notice it’s American Jews among the “neocon right” who are leading the hate Russia campaign.

        Robert Kagan, his wife Victoria Nuland, assistant sec of state, so many writers etc.

        Jill Stein or Steven Cohen may be more representative of Jewish opinion but they have no power.

        Jewish neo cons are not representative of Jewish opinion but they have/had incredible power and influence.

        They are career screw ups who never lose their careers.

        Here’s a blog of a rightwing Israel:


        October 3, 2016 at 6:55 pm

      • “They are career screw ups who never lose their careers.”

        That tends to be the norm among all elites, regardless of their religious background.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 3, 2016 at 9:11 pm

  10. Hillary’s yellow hair and bright red suit and lipstick made her look like a roadside McDonald’s.

    Trump’s shiny sky-blue tie seemed rather prole, no? Bain Capital would never hire anyone sporting such a tie.

    Through most of the debate, when Hillary was speaking, her eyes flitted rapidly about in random directions. Once you noticed that, you could no longer listen to what she was saying because of the distraction. Towards the end of the debate, she recovered from whatever it was that was afflicting her vision and looked directly into the camera and addressed the TV audience.

    One great thing about Trump is that he talks like a normal human being and not like a politician-robot. His jokes and asides and sarcasms are delivered deadpan as they pop into his head. They don’t seem scripted. He always sounds like he believes what he is saying even when he is talking absolute nonsense.

    Mark Caplan

    September 28, 2016 at 12:37 am

  11. In only one month, in NYTimes model, Trump went from 11% chances of winning to 30% – knowing how biased this paper his (the most anti Trump after Washington Post, only the Borowitz report is more hateful of Trump, really unfair but amusing).
    So the chances are up and going for Trump !

    Bruno from Paris

    September 28, 2016 at 1:48 am

  12. all of this is just inside baseball.

    none seem to get that trump loses when he plays the game.

    he wins when he doesn’t.


    September 28, 2016 at 3:18 am

  13. Trump did not appear to be a crazy maniac…

    until he does he is 100% certain to lose.

    a question is asked. he needs to dismiss it with a sigh and say, in so many words…

    “whatever…who cares?

    look folks. my opponent is a puppet.

    do you want pinocchio or do you want a real boy?”

    trump cannot win without being himself 100%. he’s only where he is today, because he has broken every rule. playing by the rules now is suicide.


    September 28, 2016 at 3:52 am

    • I completely agree with your practical recommendation, although I’m sure he’s going to win even if he “plays by the rules” because everyone knows he thinks the game is bullshit and its referees and officials contemptible rotten filth that should spontaneously combust


      September 28, 2016 at 9:00 am

    • Correct, the right-0-sphere will completely abandon him, if he keeps it up in the next debate. Although, many have reservations for him already, he minus be a shill for the left.


      September 28, 2016 at 2:30 pm

  14. All in all, the optics were Trump vs Chucky the evil doll’s girlfriend. Round 1 was a draw, let’s see how the rest goes. Trump played it very safe. Maybe he’s doing rope-a-dope, since Hillary had her best shots and just hit air.

    Also, remember that those 100 bazillion viewers didn’t tune in to take a look at Hillary.


    September 28, 2016 at 9:40 am

    • so i’m not the only one who’s noticed…the eerie similarity between hillary and chuckie.

      if all your opponent can do is play someone on tv, play the game…and poorly.

      it’s time to break the 4th wall.

      and the 5th wall…point out that the very idea of presidential debates in a thoroughly corrupt system is absurd…that you are not a fictional character, but a real person…with flaws.

      We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won’t allow them to write “fuck” on their airplanes…


      it’s obscene!


      September 28, 2016 at 5:01 pm

  15. I never liked Obama, but found it hard to get too worked up about him, about his personality. He’s just not that interesting. Crooked Hillary though. My disgust response was triggered to the moon every time she smirked. She’s so transparently malevolent, she’s like a character from middlebrow literature. I don’t know how people can take the time to vote for her, even if they aren’t wild about Trump. But you know, I don’t get normies.

    Economic Sophisms

    September 28, 2016 at 10:39 am

  16. Lion,
    NYT, PredictWise and Sam Wang have Hillary’s current election odds of 70%, 76% and 73%? Nate Silver seems to be an outlier.😦


    September 28, 2016 at 12:32 pm

  17. Morning Consult post debate poll has Crooked Hillary up 3, from being down 1 before the debate, but that could just be noise. LA Times tracking poll has Hil gaining a point and a half.

    The concerning poll, however, is Reuters, which has gone from a tie to Hil +6. It has been very volatile so far this campaign though. I look forward to tomorrows polls.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 28, 2016 at 12:36 pm

  18. While the debate was OK, not a total disaster for Trump like some think…We could really use some juicy Wikileaks right now to get the momentum back.

    Jay Fink

    September 28, 2016 at 12:36 pm

  19. the trump strategy seemed to be: “just be presidential.” rather than my preferred “KILL THE NEOCON GLOBALISTS!!!!!!”

    prediction for debate 2: immigration and hillary’s neoconservatism, will be front and center. there’s also audience participation, which trump is better at than hillary.

  20. I recommended Trump didn’t attack Magic Negro Holt and he did well. At times, he was straining on the leash. There was a point specifically where it physically looked like he bit his tongue when Holt was throwing Iraq at him.

    But it was not without blood loss.

    Holt kept being a meat shield for hilary. Trying to cut off Trump, and jumping in to bail her out as he was drawing blood.

    There are only so many Magic Negro moderators asking so many questions about how much money we should give to 15% of the population that are Magic Negros, or else be called waycist.

    Once Trump gets an opportunity with another moderator, he needs to break the 4th wall and assault the moderator if he keeps getting birther, tax and woman hater questions. It was obvious it was a stitch up. Hilary didn’t get asked anything controversial. They even reframed Trump supporting the Iraq war – as if hilary didnt!!!!

    Killing the moderator is key. He needs to show how rigged it all is. He needs to show how the establishment have been conspiring against him to keep ordinary people down by throwing a shadow over the moderator. He should spend 10 minutes reciting campaign spending stats, how much Goldman donated to Hilary, Bill’s corruption, Vince Foster, NAFTA, lobbyists, political hacks negotiating trade deals etc etc without even being asked the question and point to the media. He should not answer a question he doesn’t get to maul his opponent withot invoke lobbyists and bribery. Anything should be reframed to his attack lines.

    He can do this by wrecking the structure of the ballpark and the inquisition, not swinging bats at their fastballs by slipping in lane like an autistic idiot with “reason”.

    The Philosopher

    September 28, 2016 at 3:24 pm

  21. when hillary debates and campaigns she’s still just…

    how do you say?…

    trying to get into wellesely or yale law school or get an internship at goldman sachs.

    she’s still just “playing the game”.

    this was painfully obvious at the very beginning of the debate.

    if trump were nearly as smart as he claims to be he would see this and ridicule her for it.

    the woman has absolutely no dramatic sense. one needn’t be an english speaker…she sounds horrible…and her facial expressions are horrible.

    trump has some innate dramatic ability…but not that much.


    September 28, 2016 at 5:09 pm

  22. lion has described trump as having “50s values” iirc.

    but it’s more than that. much more.

    in the 50s the US was, in every way, the greatest country that has ever been.

    it’s not that anymore. to say the least.

    it’s so sad.

    it’s like 1592 in spain.

    in 1592 there are spaniards who:

    1. believe spain will be the richest and most powerful country on earth forever…or…

    2. this is too good…let’s wreck it!


    September 28, 2016 at 5:29 pm

  23. in short…

    trump is unique, but he’s still just an instance of a trend…

    “de-globalization”…(that’s the word all the “masters of the universe” use on bloomberg tv)

    and the reason for it is obvious…

    globalization means the loss of self-determination/sovereignty by the putatively sovereign states of the world…and there people…

    “globalization” is code for…totalitarian government by capital.

    of course the vid has soros as an enemy…and lion may see this as some kind of nazi code…but seriously…

    soros is very smart, very impressive, but he himself has admitted to having a “God complex”…so he’s a douche.


    September 28, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    • …and their people…

      forgive me…

      unlike hillary i was just honorable mention for the NMSQT.


      September 28, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    • Globalization has it origins in Meriprole HBD-aware capitalists in vesting more effectively with their money. They are fully aware that heaps of money poured into Meriprolestan’s large black demographic does not equate to a great nation, but waste and inefficiency. And it’s less profitable, unfortunately, White proles are unaware, in stupor and dazed, while they also lose their jobs to 3rd world Asia and Mexico.

      America was a great nation, before black emancipation.


      September 28, 2016 at 10:56 pm

  24. I watched just the first half of the debate, with the TV muted.

    1) Trump looked energetic and alert; illary looked older and tired, especially around the eyes.

    2) Anytime they talked/yelled over each other, illary yielded to Trump because she knows her outdoor voice is very shrill.

    3) A fixed, condescending smirk rested on illary’s lips the entire time — shades of Algore’s sighs and eye-rolls while debating Bush — like she was placating a tantruming child.

    On visuals alone, Trump laid waste to illary.


    September 28, 2016 at 6:09 pm

  25. Today’s theme/meme by the Donald, in Iowa and in WI, is “Follow the Money”….Clinton Foundation stuff—good.


    September 28, 2016 at 7:31 pm

  26. Maybe The Powers That Be took Trump aside into a dark room and demanded Trump to perform poorly in the debates or else…


    September 28, 2016 at 8:15 pm

  27. as one who has pretended (above) to have a “dramatic sense”…

    but one who knows that “the world’s a stage” (it wasn’t when shak said it, but it is now)…unfortunately…

    a hillary victory would be like what?

    another line from Brideshead…

    A blow, expected, repeated, falling on a bruise, with no smart or shock of surprise, only a dull and sickening pain and the doubt whether another like it could be borne…


    September 28, 2016 at 8:55 pm

  28. not schizo-ing out…i assure y’all…

    so who was it?

    peepee or destructure?

    the message was from “sacha”…about a year ago…

    called my brother asking about my family?

    i knew it was bs, because my family is shit…afaik.

    believe it or not “sacha” was from some independent production company by the name of Lion Television in manhattan.


    September 28, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    • of course…

      given i, apparently, have multiple butt boys (as don imus would say…followers of my blog comments)…including a dominican monk (believe it or not)…

      who knows?…

      maybe i should call “sacha” back…or buy a ticket to islip.


      the titanic can’t be un-iceberg-ed.


      September 28, 2016 at 9:26 pm

  29. Yeah its amazing that Hillary made it through 90 minutes without falling down. That by itself is considered a victory by the prejudiced media. After the mediator kept badgering Trump and carefully stayed away from all the indictments and investigations that Hillary has going on, she still managed to screw the pooch by attacking Trump for calling women names while being married to an unindicted sex offender. Its amazing how she managed to stay mostly vertical while Trump had leading questions thrown at him, and then she managed to flub some preplanned rhetoric.
    I suppose it will all come down to voter fraud and whether people realize she wants to let more H1-B visa people steal their jobs and will block any attempts to stop Muslim refugees from coming here just because they kill people and set off bombs. We have reached a point in our History where idiot politicians are now an existential threat. Trump or War ain’t just talk this time.

    Joshua Sinistar

    September 28, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    • Yeah its amazing that Hillary made it through 90 minutes without falling down. That by itself is considered a victory by the prejudiced media.

      No that’s a victory according to the right wing conspiracy o sphere. The mainstream media doesn’t think it’s a medical miracle for her to go 90 minutes without collapsing.


      September 29, 2016 at 4:32 am

      • The mainstream media doesn’t believe a few felonies should keep her from being President either. Trump wasn’t debating Hillary. She just had to keep from falling over, while Lester the Lapdog tried to pee on Trump and get something to stick.

        Joshua Sinistar

        October 2, 2016 at 1:28 am

  30. Worth a look


    September 29, 2016 at 1:24 am

  31. Lion, why are you approving the rantings of “I WON! YOU LOST! GET OVER IT!”?


    September 29, 2016 at 1:44 am

    • Pumpkin Person allowed “I WON! YOU LOST! GET OVER IT!”/Robert Mugabe/Jorge Videla/Trumpocalypse to take over his comment section, and now he has to create open comment threads after each of his posts so that that guy’s comments don’t take over the whole blog.


      September 29, 2016 at 12:52 pm

  32. Brah, do you even like Dilbert? Or do you just like Scott Adams for his political insights?


    September 29, 2016 at 10:57 pm

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