Lion of the Blogosphere

Online opt-in polls vs traditional polls

All of the online voluntary opt-in polls show a big win for Trump, even at sites where you wouldn’t expect the readers to be pro-Trump.

Traditional polls like PPP poll show a big win for Hillary.

What this means is that Trump supporters are more passionate about showing their support on the internet. I don’t think anyone except extreme leftists got excited about Hillary’s debate performance.

map wrote in a comment:

This debate does remind me of the debate between Dick Cheney and John Edwards, not in its similarities, but in its differences. The debate style being taught is to never answer your opponent’s charges or defend against your opponents accusations. You always talk around the points being made to address the audience. This is what Dick Cheney did and he argued rings around John Edwards.

Hillary Clinton was doing the same thing to Donald Trump. That’s why she was so smug and grinning like a Cheshire cat. She really thinks she “got” Donald Trump because he was not prepared like Dick Cheney.

I think that’s pretty good analysis. Trump “lost” because he defended himself instead of ignoring the accusations and talking about other stuff.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 27, 2016 at 1:31 AM

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  1. Trump should have DONE BETTER! A dozen well-prepared zingers and a directive not to defend himself against Lester Holt’s accusations and he could have won the whole thing tonight!

    God, I hope Trump wins. If he loses, I give up all hope and buy Ann Coulter’s cookbook.

    There will be no going back: Leftists in power forever and the Third world swamping completed. The best to be hoped for is Chinese hedgemony to keep the NAMs somewhat in line. Any possible Alt. Right military rebellion quickly and violently destroyed with total media compliance.

    America and all of Western Civ. go out with a whimper.


    September 27, 2016 at 2:03 AM

    • “God, I hope Trump wins. If he loses, I give up all hope and buy Ann Coulter’s cookbook.”

      I’m not surprised that Ann Coulter has a cookbook. These days many men are writing cookbooks.



      September 27, 2016 at 12:36 PM

    • America’s outsourcing has to do with the saaviness coming from our HBD aware capitalists. There is no point in investing in America with jobs, when you have 46 million NAMs and growing.


      September 27, 2016 at 1:52 PM

  2. when one side says it was close, and the other says it was a knockout…

    it was a knockout.


    September 27, 2016 at 2:22 AM

  3. I didn’t watch the debate, so I don’t know who “won”, whatever that is supposed to mean in the context of a debate. Still, over the next several days and weeks Trump should just assert that he won the debate and any assertions to the contrary is just more of the same old media bias. This will driver Hillary, her supporters and the media bonkers and make Trump look like a winner and Hillary like the petulant whiner that she is.

    Humility has never served Trump and it never will. Take command, deny the liberal consensus, learn from this first debate and come out ready to tear Hillary a new one at the second and third debates.


    September 27, 2016 at 3:46 AM

  4. So why exactly are Trump supporters more passionate about showing their support on the internet? Are they more educated and tech savvy?


    September 27, 2016 at 7:44 AM

    • About America and what it stands for. Patriotism.


      September 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM

    • The Alt-Right isn’t mainstream, so it’s online. It isn’t hard to figure that out.


      September 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM

      • Brexit showed that online polls proved to be more accurate on average than “traditional” ones.


        September 27, 2016 at 7:45 PM

  5. I really think you’re not being hard enough on Trump. What I witnessed was a cringe-inducing meltdown. He lost his cool multiple times and took every piece of bait dangled in front of him. In his delirium, he mentioned BOTH Howard Stern and Rosie O’Donnell.

    As I feared, Clinton was well-rehearsed and appeared calm (and smug). Her condescending smiles during Trump’s tantrums will register big time with women, who have dreamed of a matchup like this for generations. Feminists have much to cheer. The big white man is finally humiliated one last time.

    After this performance he can kiss PA and CO goodbye.


    September 27, 2016 at 8:10 AM

    • Yes, Park Slope ladies dig those condescending bitch-smirks. So what? They were going to vote for her anyway. She has the bitch-vote. We know this.


      September 27, 2016 at 10:05 AM

      • Not Park Slope ladies (they were already in Hill’s corner/grave); think of all those midwestern moms in OH and college educated professional gals in CO. How can they for Trump now?


        September 27, 2016 at 11:22 AM

    • You have perfectly summed up alphas’ Achilles heel. After decades of social interactions going exactly the way they expect them to, they do NOT know to spot a Trojan horse or a setup.

      Alphas’ narcissism makes them easy to honeypot.


      September 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM

      • Shit, I lose my cool ten times a week. I lost it on the bus yesterday. Must be because I’m an Alpha!


        September 27, 2016 at 1:18 PM

      • Where in prole brooklyn? BensonBurst, BolognaWurst, BeijingHurts, Guido Bay, Bridge Prole, Proleshead Bay or Proley Island?


        September 27, 2016 at 2:14 PM

      • Then you have the Jewish prole section of brooklyn, Prolesend and Rusky Beach.

        Prolesend has many middle eastern jews and Rusky Beach is where Yakov calls “my neighborhood”.


        September 27, 2016 at 2:17 PM

    • Trump did not mention Howard Stern of Rosie O’Donnell.


      September 27, 2016 at 11:13 AM

      • Yes, he did.


        September 27, 2016 at 2:29 PM

      • Yeah, he did. He said that he initially told Howie in an off-hand non-committal way that maybe it would be okay to kick Iraq’s ass, and he mentioned Rosie OD to let us know exactly what woman he’d called a “fat pig” after Hillary said that he’s called women “fat pig”. He was like, yeah, I called Rosie OD that cuz she IS one, you fat-ass bitch. (By the way, the description “fat-a—- b—-” is used by Squire Western in TOM JONES, published in 1749.)


        September 27, 2016 at 3:06 PM

    • I’m a female and felt like punching the TV when Hillary smirked.


      September 27, 2016 at 11:56 AM

  6. Dream on. He lost it. Even the pro-Trump tweeters (not Dreher) said so.


    September 27, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    • America’s last hope — Civil War 2.0. Guns n Rifles!


      September 27, 2016 at 1:46 PM

  7. The funniest reaction has to be from the pedestalizing betacons indignantly m’ladying for Alicia Machado on behalf of their wives.


    September 27, 2016 at 10:01 AM

  8. Obviously Clinton won the debate on the merits. but we knew that she would and the merits don’t matter.

    I don’t understand Trump supporters who are disappointed with his performance: It was absolutely the best we could have hoped for. My #NeverTrump mom said that they were both terrible and she can’t imagine the debate changing anybody’s mind.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 27, 2016 at 10:09 AM

  9. I don’t mind that Trump was put on the defensive. It shows the bias of the media, which is a theme of his, and it gives him a chance to answer some of the 200 million in attack ads.


    September 27, 2016 at 10:25 AM

    • Yes, it was great for Trump do be able to say to the 100 million watching that the unending sexism attack ads are lies and calumnies. And say it with force and conviction. That was a good moment for him.

      (Didn’t watch the debate live but seen sections of it in review)

      Andrew E.

      September 27, 2016 at 12:12 PM

  10. i see the NeverTrump losers and paid Soros shills are out in force. Trump did just fine. He had to act “reasonable” and not seem “crazy” to counter those media narratives. he achieved that. Of course he let Hillary off the hook a few times but he will be tougher in the next 2 debates. I don’t think the “moderator’s” obvious bias went unnoticed by viewers and Hillary’s weird smile, overly rehearsed robotic lines and cheap snarky insults will win her many fans.


    September 27, 2016 at 10:31 AM

    • But still, to a charge of sexism, why couldn’t he have said, “if my Muzzie immigration controls prevent one woman from being raped, would that be non-sexist enough for you?”?


      September 27, 2016 at 4:40 PM

  11. All the online polls showed big wins for Ron Paul in 2008/2012, too. It is much easier for a vocal minority to dominate the online community than a real-life election.

    Martin L.

    September 27, 2016 at 10:45 AM

    • Yeah but the important thing is that obscure polls like the one pictured in a comment below from WCPO show Trump as the clear winner. The impression most Americans are getting today is that Trump lost, but not badly. The online polls help and it doesn’t matter if they’re manipulated.

      Horace Pinker

      September 27, 2016 at 11:52 AM

  12. The WCPO TV poll in Cincinnati has Trump ahead almost 2 to 1. WCPO, an ABC affiliate, is a typical Mainstream Media leftist organ, so the poll, in the hyper-critical swing-state of Ohio, speaks volumes.

    If you go to the WCPO website, you have to enter a vote to see the poll. I did that and the early screenshot someone took (shown below) is still roughly where the poll currently stands:

    Mark Caplan

    September 27, 2016 at 11:01 AM

    • Voluntary polls such as this are usually biased towards people with strong feelings that motivate them to participate. This is good news for Trump because motivated people are more likely to vote.


      September 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM

    • The channel that brought us the creepy series V that aired on Sunday nights in the 1980s, where Extraterrestrial Reptilians hijacked our political system and then rounded up human beings to be used for food, the same channel that is notoriously liberal in reporting, and also the employer of Lester Holt, reveals that Trump is the winner of the debacle, with more than double of the votes for Clinton.


      September 27, 2016 at 3:20 PM

      • CNBC is a business news channel, they had nothing to do with V.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 27, 2016 at 4:56 PM

      • It’s owned by NBC. When one sees Lester Holt, NBC automatically comes to mind.


        September 27, 2016 at 7:59 PM

  13. How many votes did Ron Paul win these polls with back in the day, in absolute numbers?


    September 27, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    • Well Republican primary voters may have not voted for him because they didn’t think he had any chance at all to win the nomination, so they wanted to make their vote count. It was a McCain vs. Romney race.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 27, 2016 at 1:41 PM

      • No, I mean in Internet polls. People talk about how Ron Paul won the Internet but flopped in real life, implying that the same will happen to Trump.


        September 27, 2016 at 1:43 PM

    • Ron Paul never won any internet poll as the winner of the Republican primaries.


      September 27, 2016 at 7:17 PM

  14. Lion,
    I think so many people today in the alt-right are in their own Pauline Kael bubble on Twittter and on the internet. Look, I despise Hillary Clinton and globalism. However, she certainly had a better debate last night and I think most “normies” realize this. It’s sad because liberals control the media. But it’s true.

    Clinton is heavily favored by almost all of the forecast, betting and predictive markets. They have her with 70% odds of winning. Unfortunately, I think they are right.


    September 27, 2016 at 12:35 PM

  15. “Trump “lost” because he defended himself instead of ignoring the accusations and talking about other stuff.”

    Part of Hillary’s narrative for election is that Trump is thin skinned, becomes unhinged when people criticize him and is therefore unsuited to be president. Trump kept his cool for the first 15 minutes or so of the debate, but Hillary kept needling him. By 30 minutes into the debate Trump was red faces and looked visibly angry. He spent almost all his time responding to Hilary’s attacks, sometimes with counter attacks, but frequently with bluster and obvious lies. it was clear that Hillary was in control and Trump was trying to fight her off.

    At the end of the debate Hillary brought up Alicia Machado, the 1996 Miss Universe that Trump publicly fat shamed and forced to go on a diet after she gained weight. Trump was just sputtering in response. Today Trump went on Fox and attacked Alicia Machado’s weight again. Hillary had an attack ad featuring Alicia Machado all ready to go which she released this morning. Clearly Hillary set this up and Trump just walked right into it. This is not an issue that men care about, but women do. You could see the hosts on Fox trying to get Trump to shut up and stop taking about it, but he just could not help it.


    September 27, 2016 at 12:53 PM

    • Fat chicks is a huge national problem that all men should care about and in fact most men do care about quite a lot; they’re like, “Fug, ANOTHER fat chick — that makes six I’ve just passed on this one fuggin block alone.”


      September 27, 2016 at 3:11 PM

    • What Jersey Guy & mike ca said.

      This is what happens when you pit a trained lawyer against someone who has had lawyers defending him his entire career.

      Now look: I’m not saying HRC is a great lawyer. Just saying that since Yale, she’s been doing this kind of shit. Whereas Trump has not. And Jesus, I’m second to no one in my dislike of HRC’s corruption & history of lies, but her ability to maintain her composure is nothing short of astonishing.

      It’s a mistake to read anything into instant polls. I have no idea what’s going to happen in the next 50 days, but barring a major Wikileaks revelation, a terror attack (both of which could happen) the realization that Trump loses it and Hillary does not will set in like a bad stain, and that’s not good for Trump.



      September 27, 2016 at 5:25 PM

    • wtf


      September 27, 2016 at 5:46 PM

      • Alicia Machado boyfriend’s sister committed suicide by leaping off a tall building when she was 8 months pregnant. Her boyfriend blamed his sister’s husband for driving her to suicide. There was an argument at the funeral and witnesses say her boyfriend shot his brother in law leaving him brained damaged. The boyfriend fled the scene in a car which some witnesses claim was driven by Alicia Machado.

        Alicia Machado claimed she was filming a soap opera at the time and/or had gone home from the filming because she was sick. The boyfriend was eventually indited for attempted murder but had apparently fled Venezuela and far as can be find online was never arrested or tried. The courts declined to indite Alicia Machado because there was insufficient evidence she was involved.

        Later the judge in this case accused Alicia Machado of calling him and threatening to ruin his career and/or have him killed. Alicia Machado denied making those threats. There was apparently some investigation, but no charges were ever filed.

        Alicia Machado is now a US citizen.

        In other news boxing promoter Don King is a Trump supporter and surrogate. Don King was a Trump surrogate after the debate. Don King killed a man who was robbing the illegal bookmaking operation he was running. That was eventually ruled self defense. Don King was convicted of second degree murder (later reduced to nonnegligent manslaughter) in 1966 for stomping a man to death who owed him money. Don King served 4 years in prison. He was later pardoned.


        September 28, 2016 at 10:13 PM

  16. Trump didn’t mess it up, but his performance was sad. It’s realy sad that even I, a man of low IQ, intelligence and education, could have done better against Hillary.


    September 27, 2016 at 1:14 PM

    • Mate, the problem with Trump is this: America is irreparable, because every political leader is kow-towing to blacks, who are a heavy strain to society.

      Why does he have to bring up the rotting inner cities of America? They’re a lost cause, and no politician can do anything about them.


      September 27, 2016 at 1:57 PM

      • You are like an anti-semite who thinks that Jews are the cause of all problems. Blacks don’t stop anyone from being successful in America. You are a rabble rouser and belong in Gulag.


        September 27, 2016 at 8:45 PM

      • America would be a much better place without these 2 demographics.

        Remember — affordability in America means NAM friendly. Don’t have a high paying job where you can live in expensive housing? Well, you will be living and working with miscreants in the near future.


        September 28, 2016 at 9:13 AM

      • In Arizona where the NAMs are Mexicans, “affordable” is a lot safer than in the east coast where the NAMs are blacks and Puerto Ricans.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        September 28, 2016 at 9:22 AM

      • That’s true. Good luck finding decent work in that part of the world as a young person. Liberal centers are where the real jobs are at, but the housing costs are astronomical high. The Midwest is cheap, but there are many blacks living in the surrounding areas.


        September 28, 2016 at 9:27 AM

      • The only remedy to this glaring problem is that proles decide to create their own self segregated communities, sort of the like the Amish and the Haredim.

        One could also hope that White states like Montana and Wyoming create burgeoning centers for young White professionals to thrive. But affordability attracts blacks. A large number of blacks are also migrating to the Midwest outside of Chicago, because of affordability. There’s this myth circulating that most blacks are leaving the liberal centers for the South. The South is pretty much like a South Side, Newark and any crime ridden place. When blacks are concentrated in large numbers, crime begin to be a serious issue, regardless of economic status. There is no such thing as a functional black middle class. blacks are prone to crime regardless of class.


        September 28, 2016 at 9:38 AM

      • Just look at the West Indian parade, where every year there is a shooting, despite Caribbean blacks being much better off that American blacks.


        September 28, 2016 at 9:41 AM

      • There are anti-black blogs, ever thought of migrating there? You have nothing better to do with your life then dissing blacks? Man…. where do people like you come from? Who are you?


        September 28, 2016 at 12:09 PM

      • Dissing blacks? blacks are the only serious problem, with Hispanics coming a distant second.

        If you don’t understand why America has a low quality of life, why functional cities costs so much to inhabit and why private schools are so expensive, or better yet, why White patrons are upset after shopping at an expensive Whole Foods in NYC staffed by NAM employees, then you don’t understand the NAM problem.


        September 28, 2016 at 1:52 PM

      • Yakov — JS annoys me and I nearly always agree with you. But not this time. He’s right.


        September 28, 2016 at 4:11 PM

      • I suspect that Yakov doesn’t find Blacks very worrisome because he thinks that he can defeat most Black males in a fistfight, while JS and others are very worried about Blacks because they think that they would be defeated by most Black males in a fistfight. As I’ve become heavier and stronger over the past couple of years I’ve noticed that my attitude has morphed from “They’re a threat” to “They require management” (the morphing isn’t complete, though, perhaps because I’m not as confident in my fist-fighting skills as Yakov appears to be in his.) Perhaps if White gentlemen were to generally regard it as their duty to train for street-combat (rather than getting involved in nifty Crossfitty stuff) and to become as heavy as possible through consumption of enormous quantities of red meat, they would become more kindly disposed toward the troublesome Black population.


        September 29, 2016 at 7:46 PM

      • Garr, I’m just a little creature trying to make it. All I’m saying is that regardless of what you think about Jews, blacks, Chinese or whoever, they don’t stop you from being successful in the US. That’s it. So a sourpuss JS should cut out blaming them for his misery.


        September 30, 2016 at 7:19 AM

      • did garr just admit to being fat?


        October 2, 2016 at 3:51 PM

  17. I’m starting to think that Scott Adams has the right idea of things. Where did the “Trump didn’t prepare” rumor come from, if not his people? I read an article from McClatchy with a focus group basically saying that half the group ruled out Hillary after the debate (“her ideas are old/pie in the sky”). If Trump has any self control, which seems like a reasonable assumption based on his career, why wouldn’t he use the first debate to set the table? Everyone thinks he didn’t prepare, so he shows up to the next one having clearly prepared and proves the storyline.


    September 27, 2016 at 1:16 PM

  18. Trump needs to take a new tact. He should speak to the audience, not to the moderator or to Hillary. He should deflect accusations, while constantly accusing Hillary of things.

    It’s the same way you deal with shrill women. Pretend they’re not there, and talk past them. This strategy fits well with his populist appeal, and renders whatever Hillary does insignificant because it pulls the spotlight on him.

    Jason Liu

    September 27, 2016 at 1:53 PM

  19. IHTG

    September 27, 2016 at 2:08 PM

  20. I watched the debate a second time and Trump did better than I thought and a lot better than all the negativity I see in comments sections. I believe some of the “I support Trump but he did lousy in the debate” is paid AstroTurf designed to control the narrative. I would be especially skeptical at first time commenters with the “I’m for Trump but” attitude.

    What struck me most about the debate is the shallowness of the questions. They were mostly gotcha personal questions for Trump instead of about major issues people care about.

    Jay Fink

    September 27, 2016 at 2:31 PM

  21. Almost everything HC was saying on the debate, she said it before in videos that are on the internet. All the questions were 100% predictable. So if she was very average, being arrogant and despitful, cold and hypocritical, he was awfull. Absolutely not centered and speaking like a lunatic or a kid. There are both way too old …..

    Bruno from Paris

    September 27, 2016 at 3:14 PM

  22. “extreme leftists”

    The far left despises Clinton. They see her as a neoliberal, imperialist warmonger. She has near-zero support on the hard left.


    September 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM

  23. Face it, the debate was an unmitigated disaster for Trump. His charade was exposed. He came across as someone of severely limited intelligence, reasoning ability, and overall knowledge. His response to the “birther” question made him seem like an absolute idiot. He said it would be “quite simple”, but managed to ramble on about who-knows-what for 5 minutes or so. The entire narrative was nonsensical and incoherent. The only way this ends is Hillary taking NC, VA, and PA, and maybe maybe Trump gets NV and OH, but still, with Hillary winning Florida, the race is over. Clinton’s already won.


    September 27, 2016 at 3:30 PM

  24. I voted that he won in the online polls, too. But I don’t actually believe he did a better job. Not that she answered questions any more honestly or correctly than he did. But her answers were coherent and polished. His were a rambling hot mess.

    Regardless, people are missing the point. He did awful and people are STILL saying he won. It doesn’t really reflect what people think about the debate. It reflects who they’re going to vote for. Over the last month, he’s made huge gains in the polls while $200 million was being spent om negative ads against him. If I were a Democrat I’d feel hopeless. Because there’s nothing they can do to win this election now.


    September 27, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    • ” He did awful and people are STILL saying he won.”

      Really? What people? Dewey Truman, remember?


      September 27, 2016 at 5:28 PM

      • From the first sentence of Leon’s post.

        “All of the online voluntary opt-in polls show a big win for Trump, even at sites where you wouldn’t expect the readers to be pro-Trump.”


        September 27, 2016 at 7:51 PM

  25. Last night I saw a candidate who spoke passionately and sincerely from his heart, on the issues that were important to him and the American people. He is a real person who, understandably, showed some signs of nervousness on his first-ever, widely-televised one-on-one debate — the sniffling and the sips of water were endearing nonetheless. Known as a problem solver, he may not be the suavest speaker, but he truly has a heart for country and people that cannot be faked with days of practicing.

    His opponent, on the other hand, thought that a well-rehearsed, smoothly-delivered speech would win her the debate and the election. Alas, if only a smooth tongue could make the real world run smoothly, I would be running toward the used-car salesman. She should have reminded us of her accomplishments (there must be at least one?) instead of…(Let’s see: She would raise taxes on the rich…what else did she say she would do?) Even her campaign manager has trouble articulating what her positions are.

    BTW, curious observers online have been wanting to know what device she was wearing on her lower back. (See video “Watch the full first 2016 Presidential Debate | PBS NewsHour”at 1:41:47-49 when she’s shaking hands with friends in the audience.)


    September 27, 2016 at 3:58 PM

    • I remember Donks making something of an issue that Dubya seemed to be wearing something of a listening device thing in at least one of his debates with Kerry, including photos on the internet with a bulge in his jacket.

      The difference this time is apparently the Clinton campaign hasn’t really tried to hied that she had such a device,and everyone is fine with that.

      I’ll admit that my own opinion of this stuff is like my opinion of steroids in sports. I just assume that just about everyone is doing this, I admire the few that aren’t, and don’t see what the big deal is. They could have teleprompters attached to the lecturns and people would be fine with this. People often bring up the Lincoln -Douglas debates, but that was something of a sensation at the time because basically it almost never happened. Candidates for office -Douglas was a rare exception- basically sat their butts at home during the election season and tried to get to the newspapers to print unfavorable lies about their opponents.


      September 27, 2016 at 7:58 PM

  26. Alex Jones is going to turn this election single-handedly with the release of 1 video!!


    September 27, 2016 at 5:38 PM

    • He’s wearing Malcolm X-style glasses.

      Lewis Medlock

      September 29, 2016 at 9:41 AM

  27. Relax people. Six weeks and two more debates to go. This was just Trump getting warmed up; he’s never done one of these things before. In this election, it will be the last impression that people take into the voting booth.


    September 27, 2016 at 5:56 PM

  28. round 2 will be even worse.

    Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!


    September 27, 2016 at 5:59 PM

  29. i speak and write elliptically too…

    so i like trump’s style.

    but he’s being a little too elliptical…

    it’s verging on jive.


    September 27, 2016 at 6:02 PM

  30. A lot of pathetic hand-wringing in this thread. “Oh no, Hillary has an ad ready for that! Oh no, contemptible witches who are ruining the country will like that smirk!”


    Rogal Dorn

    September 27, 2016 at 6:48 PM

    • Wow — what if it’s not just “ruining” but “running”? What if there’s an actual witch-conspiracy behind all of this? I mean genuine Earth-Mother-Hecate-Isis-worshiping actual witches?


      September 29, 2016 at 6:21 PM

  31. There is a panic on Bloomberg, they are talking about Trump’s chances going up and the markets being under prepared for it. This is good news.

    This is a realy stupid article.

    JS, pay attention there is a brain drain from Canada with the most talented heading to the US. The less talented stay and the losers emigrate from the US. This is what this article is saying, mate. The best in, the worst out.


    September 28, 2016 at 1:58 PM

    • Of course, the money maggots in Canada like America, because it offers more money. I’m not surprised. It’s like the idiots moving to NYC so they can earn higher salaries, and sacrificing their living conditions and high living costs.

      And America is an ugly mess, because of one reason. $hort$ighted view of $$$$$. Elites have made money on NAMs and non-White immigrants they know they are very profitable to certain capitalists, even though they will become a serious problem to civilization long term.


      September 28, 2016 at 10:06 PM

      • Maggots don’t constitute a brain drain. It’s the smartest, the most creative and innovative people that are moving. Again, don’t take your eyes of the only principle you need to get under your belt: AMERICA = OPPORTUNITY. You realy don’t need to know anything else.


        September 29, 2016 at 8:05 AM

      • Keep thinking that Canada has a serious brain drain, because it does not. Furthermore, for every 1 Canadian moving to America, it is about 2 Americans moving to Canada.

        Most Canadians who move to the US, either work in Finance (because it pays better in the US), or value creation like STEM fields (which also pays better in the US). And many of these Canadian individuals aren’t White, but South Asians/probably a few East Asians in the group. And many Canadian Whites who move to America, are the entertainer types.

        As one can observe, infrastructure outdated America (especially in NYC) does not seem very innovative with its talented, value creation demographic, who fall victim to their value transference masters. People who work with a “rat race” mentality, working for a paycheck in order to survive, do not produce great stuff and they do not, because money is more important creativity.

        Most important, Canada is a more functional and aesthetic pleasing country.


        September 29, 2016 at 9:49 AM

      • I dunno that mich about Canada, I’m just paraphrasing Bloombergs article and it’s not what it says. Appalachia is esthetically very pleasing, so I dunno why you keep complaint all the time. You are sour puss.


        September 29, 2016 at 12:06 PM

      • I dunno that mich about Canada, I’m just paraphrasing Bloombergs article and it’s not what it says. Appalachia is esthetically very pleasing, so I dunno why you keep complaint all the time. You are sourpuss.


        September 29, 2016 at 12:10 PM

      • And mate, I’m not dising Canada. In fact, I would love to live there on account of its climate being similar to Russia. I’m a cross-country skiing fanatic and Canada is my type of a country as far as that is concerned. However, country for country USA is a freer and better place. It’s just very basic. What I don’t get us why USA never conquered Canada? That wad realy stupid. With that territory and resources USA would have been so much greater. I guess no real leadership. Man, such an opportunity missed.


        September 29, 2016 at 12:20 PM

      • What freedoms does America offer that Canada doesn’t? You’re making a moot point for people who have above average IQs.

        With increasing globalization of all types of products, what does America offer that Canada does not?


        September 29, 2016 at 6:00 PM

      • Also, not all of Canada is the same. French Québec is quite different from the rest of Canada, which shares more similarities with Anglo-Prole-America. It’s the most Anti-Semitic, most non-white unfriendly province, yet the most charming and most European in vibe, and the least capitalistic. So it has the best of both for many pro-White types. However, they openly or secretly disdain Americans and Anglos in general, simply because Anglo Whites are the antithesis of what cosmopolitan modern White people are supposed to be. Not too different from what people call proles.


        September 29, 2016 at 11:19 PM

  32. wow JS quebec sounds like paradise, can i live with you

    james n.s.w

    September 30, 2016 at 1:09 AM

    • Québec is the only North American region to ban pitbulls, and rightly so, because many pitbulls are by nature hyperaggressive, also reflective of many of their owners. Most pitbull owners in NYC are NAMs who live in the inner cities.

      Now the Anglo-Prole world is up in arms regarding this ban, the same reason why their countries are in the toilet, because they are so accepting of undesirables.


      September 30, 2016 at 3:17 PM

      • NYC banned Servals and so what? A serval isn’t a city cat, so on a biological level it may make sense to ban them. I mean, where in the city can he do his thing? So if he, the serval, can’t spread his wings, so to speak, he’s gonna start dising people and acting out and losing control and that’s no good. On the other hand, NYC is pretty congenial to pitbuls. Now, for a whole huge provence to ban pitbuls is typical French sissiness. Maybe in some areas a pitbul is no good, or maybe it’s too cold for them, but in the whole province? Like go ban an animal. Please. Maybe French and pitbuls just don’t jive, I dunno. Instead of banning pitbuls, they should cut their taxes. Will do them more good, or at least this is what I think.


        September 30, 2016 at 4:21 PM

      • French Canadians pay significantly less in school, housing and utilities. So it works out if you compare it to the USA, with lower taxes, but with a higher costs of living. []

        And your idea that the USA has more freedoms than Canada is debunked here:


        October 1, 2016 at 3:04 PM

  33. Polls like PPP simply over-sample democrats.


    September 30, 2016 at 1:44 AM

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