Lion of the Blogosphere

Trade deals and the debate

As you know from reading this blog, the real story is that the need for human labor is shrinking, because computerization, automation, and other technological advances are able to create more product with fewer human workers.

There is also the issue of how much stuff we need. More food than we need to eat only makes us fat (and low-cost food explains the so-called “obesity epidemic” a lot more than the ridiculous idea that poor people are fat because they can’t afford to buy “healthy” food). One modern high-definition TV showing the greatest new TV series like Game of Thrones is far better than a dozen CRT TVs from the 1970s showing only the kind of dreck that was on TV in the 1970s.

There is a surplus of labor that is only able to do physical work like working on a farm or in a factory, while only a small number of high-IQ people are needed to create better agricultural technology and new television shows.

Neither Hillary nor Trump addressed this issue. Both, at least publicly, and probably privately as well (because politicians have little imagination), believe in the conventional idea that most people should have a job that is a voluntary contract between a private employer and the employee, with the rest working for the government. While there is disagreement between Republicans and Democrats about the percentage of people who should be working for the government, it’s actually a pretty narrow disagreement.

Additionally, SWPLs believe in the idea that a self-actualizing career is the most important goal in life, and you can’t have a self-actualizing career without the sort of labor market described above (although it’s one with few winners because the number of high-quality self-actualizing jobs is small compared to the total number of jobs).

Within this framework, Trump’s ideas on trade make more sense, because he wants to keep jobs in the United States while the Democrats, as well as other Republicans who hate Trump, support the globalization that is sending such jobs overseas. Economists, who also believe in the sort of labor market described above, furthermore believe that globalization will result in more value created for everyone, and they mock Trump’s zero-sum thinking. But in fact, because the need for human labor is shrinking, Trump’s zero-sum approach to jobs is actually more correct. It’s more correct until we can develop a new economy that’s not based on the type of labor markets described above.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

September 30, 2016 at 9:27 AM

Posted in Economics, Politics

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  1. What new economy? People who don’t work go crazy. What you gonna do for them to remain sane? Nothing.

    Incidently, I spoke to guys driving for Uber. Can be a cool job for you. Lots of freedom and flexibility. You drive for a cople of months and then you go to chill in, say, Chile. Totally cool. I think without productive occupation your mental gears shift and go fix it after that. Ain’t easy.

    Anyway, masses of idle people cannot exist and will have to die one way or the other. They are going crazy already with all this information overload and stupid mass media destroying their minds. Once you take work away, it’s gonna be cavemen roaming around.


    September 30, 2016 at 10:40 AM

    • Right. The universal basic income future that autistic libertarians and socialists imagine is one that would turn the entire country into one gigantic ghetto, with all of the chaos and insanity that goes with it.

      Mike Street Station

      September 30, 2016 at 6:26 PM

      • Hey, have you heard of a guy named James altucher? He’s one of those curly headed internet gurus, but he’s really pretty smart, and he agrees with Lion about automation. He says ” for every piece of software written, you lose one job.” I think that he and Lion are exaggerating slightly, there will always be some jobs for which you need human hands. But in large part, they are correct. The key to a sane life is figuring out for your kids which jobs will always need people and preparing them for it.


        October 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM

      • I’m sure there will always be something for some people to do, but when you have a permanently unemployable class that tops 40% and keeps going up, that’s a recipe for chaos.

        Mike Street Station

        October 1, 2016 at 3:27 PM

      • Mike, I agree with you, and I think that Lion is soft-pedaling the emotional/psych issues here. Also he (and Altucher) don’t respect physical labor much, and don’t realize how much fine motor coordination and quick thinking goes into jobs like masonry, carpentry, etc. But….birthrates have dropped, and this is a worldwide phenom* and nothing to get upset about. We talk all the time about Japan here, but Iran and Vietnam, which once had massive birthrates, are now below replacement level. This is good. Good for the environment, good for everyone. We don’t need massive numbers of people to keep the post-industrial world going.

        *except Africa.


        October 1, 2016 at 6:51 PM

      • ‘We don’t need massive numbers of people to keep the post-industrial world going.’.
        This doesn’t apply to the Jews. It’s incumbent on every conscious Jew to have a large family to make our nation strong. I think white people should have lots of kids too, but it’s not my place to preach to them. But they should definitely have lots of kids.


        October 2, 2016 at 6:13 PM

      • Yakov — Do you think there is an optimal number of children?


        October 2, 2016 at 10:28 PM

    • Lots and lots and lots of jobs in health care.

      If you make the work week 30 hours, you can employ tons of people in health care.

      not too late

      October 1, 2016 at 9:14 PM

    • I have also spoken to Uber drivers. They aren’t making that much money. They live with parents or live in cheap housing in poor neighborhoods. No one I met is jetting off to Chile.


      October 2, 2016 at 12:58 PM

  2. Japan has no immigration and tries to limit offshoring. they have kept more manufacturing in Japan than we have in the US but they still don’t have a lot of job growth. And that’s even with their working age population starting to shrink. The world doesn’t need that many workers anymore. One worker in a modern factory can produce a million dollars a year (or more) worth of products. Same thing in a technologically advanced resource business like oil. Exxon Mobil has 200 billion in revenue with 80,000 employees. That’s 2.5 million dollars per employee per year. If 10% of the world (750 million people) were employed in useful jobs using modern technology they could produce enough wealth to give everyone in the entire world (all 7.5 billion) a per capita income of about $100,000 per year.


    September 30, 2016 at 11:18 AM

    • Life could probably be just fine without economic growth.


      October 1, 2016 at 10:28 AM

      • That is the main point.

        We need an economic model that doesn’t equate growth with success.

        If there are fewer and fewer people, there doesn’t need to be any growth.

        not too late

        October 1, 2016 at 9:17 PM

      • OK, we need someone who understands the monetary system to explain why growth is necessary. I just don’t know enough to explain this, but my gut sense is that without growth, the system would collapse. There needs to be at least enough growth to support inflation, right?


        October 2, 2016 at 10:28 AM

      • The problem is then you have a shrinking pie, which various groups fight over.


        October 2, 2016 at 11:00 AM

      • @Gothamette. The population increases every year so if growth does not increase with population you will have more people and less resources. But the big delusion is that we should whatever we can to get the maximum amount of growth.

        What’s more important is GDP per capita (how much money we have per person). This is why the argument that immigrants grow the economy is a misleading.

        Letting in 30 million into America may increase the GDP per 3-4% BUT population is 10% larger. That means even though the economy is larger, there is less to go around per person.

        Our media keeps telling us that Japan’s growth is unsustainable because its between 0-1%. But the population growth is at 0% so their GDP per capita is actually goes up every year!


        October 2, 2016 at 1:06 PM

      • “@Gothamette. The population increases every year so if growth does not increase with population you will have more people and less resources. But the big delusion is that we should whatever we can to get the maximum amount of growth.”

        You obviously didn’t understand my question. First of all, the population doesn’t increase every year. In most countries outside Africa the pop’n is decreasing with below replacement level birthrates.

        My question was directed to the idea that classical liberal capitalism depends on an expanding economy. This has something to do with money supply but I don’t understand it. Someone used to comment here but he doesn’t anymore. I forgot his name, he was brilliant and not loony. Are you still there?


        October 2, 2016 at 8:33 PM

  3. Why do you willfully and intentionally leave out monetary policy which enables this to happen.

    The truth is automation is not nearly anywhere near as bad as you’ve described it, but you’ve grown so fond of your own worldview (value transference, self-actualizing careers, and the idea that we have all this surplus) that you never consider we might actually not be as rich or automated as you think.

    The trade deficit which fuels our national debt is the only reason any of this has been able to happen. The Chinese can’t sell goods into our market if no one can buy them. The easy availability of credit allows this for a time. Thankfully our time of cheap credit is rapidly collapsing and coming to an end. We just need one more Lehman to blow things up and the great reckoning will be upon us. I hear Deutsche Bank had volunteered to be our sacrificial lamb and get the party started.


    September 30, 2016 at 11:20 AM

    • This. Lion is extrapolating from current, unsustainable trends. Most of us in the United States have a great deal of sweat and toil ahead of us.


      September 30, 2016 at 5:45 PM

    • If you read blogs like this, and you live in a technologically advanced city, and you work on a computer, it’s easy to fall into the thinking that life is easy, the struggle for survival is trivial and all can be controlled with the push of a button. But then if you go to poor countries you see people sloughing it out doing manual labor jobs and other crappy work like driving taxis long hours every day. It will always be like this to some extent.

      Of course those people could go back and live in the village if they wanted to. But mostly they prefer to live in ugly crowded cities because the village cannot give them the same level of titillation that they desire.

      magenta squirrel

      October 1, 2016 at 6:07 AM

      • That’s mostly a problem that the IQ and temperment of the people in those countries don’t allow for the organization to create a country like the United States, Japan, or Western Europe.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 1, 2016 at 12:20 PM

    • Amen. I have to wonder why Lion thinks the producers of the future–the few high IQ workers who can design automated systems that will supposedly feed millions–will do so. People only produce things when they can sell those things to other people. And buying and selling is done with money, and money is worth something only to the extent that you can exchange it for something else you want. In Lion’s future, what’s in it for the producers? Why would they bother to build, design, and maintain the robots that are allegedly going to do all the production? What’s in it for them? Money? What good is money? In Lion’s hypothetical future, food, clothing, and shelter are free. Why would they bother to do anything but sit at home and play World of Warcraft? But even if they did that, who’s going to program World of Warcraft?

      Granted, there are a very small fraction of people who are so passionate about something–something I guess Lion would call “self-actualizing”–that they will produce in their spare time. Like the geeks who are so into coding that they come home from their day jobs and spend their evenings and weekends working on Linux and other open-source software programs. Maybe Lion thinks there are enough of those people in the world to meet the needs of the billions of the rest of us.


      October 1, 2016 at 6:56 PM

      • “People only produce things when they can sell those things to other people. ”

        This is not true. People do things for status, and there are many types of status besides money. And people also do things because of social expectations, to not be ostracized from the group.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM

      • Lion is obsessed with status because Lion is a Sailerbot.

        If our society collapses, it’s funny how carpenters and welders will rise to the top of the status hierarchy.


        October 2, 2016 at 10:30 AM

      • Lion is obsessed with status because Lion is a Sailerbot.

        Status obsession would make him a TomWolfebot.

        Sailer is an aspergy Beta nerd obsessed with IQ numbers, golf courses, negrophobia, and badboy loving White women.

        Sailer and Lion do have in common the delusional self image of being super rational truth tellers despite their obvious emotionally driven biases and insecurities.


        October 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM

      • Every Jew needs to have a trade just in case. As one of my Talmud teachers, himself an electrician, used to say – an electrician is an electrician weather in Gulag or in Africa. Status chasers are contemptible phonies.


        October 2, 2016 at 3:10 PM

      • Gothamette, that’s a shitty thing to say. If you had to walk around NYC being treated and looked at like dogshit all day look by SWPL officewhores and NAMS you might also think status is worth thinking about a little. Rifleman, you sound like a SWPL officewhore disgusted by the “aspergy Beta nerd”‘s presumption at not offering to scrape himself off the sidewalk like the dogshit you think he is. Yakov, maybe the alpha Jews can start offering to help their beta brethren learn that stuff and make a living with it instead of hiring Muslim and Mexican lackeys. (Not me; I’m 50 and done for.) I attended shuls for years and not a single MFer ever offered to help me despite all the bullshit about Jewish brotherhood. They’re just clubs for old men and “phonies” (your word). Let me tell all you people why I’m voting for Trump. Because Feminism is one of the three great evils of human history, along with Islam and CommiNazism. All of our NAM-related, NAM-immigrant-related stress is due to Feminism; a coven-system of Isis-worshiping Witches served by swarms of their cunnilingus-providing Goblins has destroyed AngloAmerica, the greatest civilization the universe has ever known. Hillary is a high-ranking Witch. Trump is neither Witch nor Goblin. Maybe with Trump as president the risk of thermonuclear war is greater. But what we have now, and what Hillary represents and promotes, is a Hellscape, a world without hope, in which the gentlemen of 1850 and 1950 are reduced to “aspergy Beta nerd” dogshit that’s expected to scrape itself off the Feminist sidewalk.


        October 2, 2016 at 6:32 PM

      • ” If you had to walk around NYC being treated and looked at like dogshit all day look by SWPL officewhores and NAMS you might also think status is worth thinking about a little.”

        What makes you think I don’t? I know well the sting and lash of being looked down upon by the food co-op bitches and their smug children wearing headbands.


        October 2, 2016 at 8:36 PM

      • I go to these meetups in Montréal, where there are normal looking young people, who have this nonchalant attitude of working and having fun. No one gives a flying eff about company association and neighborhood of residence.

        Compare it to NYC’s social gatherings of people with similar looks and socioeconomic background, there is this constant need of evaluating one’s social status, with the type of employer (let alone salary) and the neighborhood where they reside.


        October 2, 2016 at 10:40 PM

      • Okay, Gothamette. I’m sorry you feel that way. It seems to me that men and women think differently about status. For men, it’s about having a sense of active engagement in social life — the more active the engagement, the higher the status. For women, it’s about being beautiful and fitting in beautifully. For example, women who make “art” talk about the experience of getting into the, what’s the word?, Flow? of it? They want to feel that they’re beautiful artist-people. But men who make “art” see their work as an interesting but extremely irritating problem-solving process that ultimately enables them to hook into the social system in an active way (publication, shows). Status isn’t a shallow concern; it’s a deeply natural one and therefore naturally deep. Male status = active engagement in social life.
        Rifleman, I’m sure you’re a decent, intelligent person who was just in a mean mood expressed by the mention of “aspergery beta nerd[s]” that “triggered” my own snarling response.
        Yakov, I spoke stupidly last night about the unhelpfulness of economically successful shul-attenders in helping losers to find work, and it was really wrong of me to call them “phonies”. The fact is, there’s little that any middle-class person in America can do for any other, economically. Individual people are lucky to have a place for themselves in the economic scheme of things. Social relationships in clubs such as shuls are completely detached from social relationships; these are separate, rectilinearly intersecting planes (just a geometric metaphor — I’m actually imagining two planes at right angles to each other, passing through each other, one representing social life and the other representing economic life). This unnatural divorce of the social from the economic (at least for middle-class people) is part of what makes religious Jewish life in America so … “phony”? Not that the individual people are phony, but the scene is. Why isn’t everybody moving to Israel, where Jewishness actually makes sense as involvement in the economic as well the social and intellectual life of a distinct people?


        October 3, 2016 at 9:36 AM

  4. Lion, I was thinking about your idea of how video games like Warcraft will be the future of employment. I then thought that AI in video games will have to improve in the future, as AI becomes more and more of a reality outside of gaming.

    I think eventually, each game will come with its own super-AI, which will adapt the gameplay and story according to your own decisions and preferences. In many RPGs, you can arrive at different endings according to a limited number of choices. Imagine if a game AI created new endings altogether, according to your decisions.

    After awhile, video games could be the realization of your deepest unconscious desires, the way certain dreams are.


    September 30, 2016 at 11:32 AM

    • Pay people to work out in gyms. It’s almost like working. And it realizes the conscious desire to get stronger.


      September 30, 2016 at 8:23 PM

      • Or at least make membership at a gym free, like in prison.


        October 1, 2016 at 10:30 AM

  5. Farm work isn’t that bad, at least on grain farms.
    My mom’s cousin came for a visit, and talked about his farm. 10,000 acres in Alberta, where he grows wheat, barley and peas. He get’s 50 bushels/acre, and averages $5/bushel. His tractors are programmed for their routes (and cost 6 figures). He and his sons run the place, but it’s successful because they aren’t dumb. You don’t need to be a genius, but you can’t have a sub-100 IQ to keep the place in the black.

    Half canadian

    September 30, 2016 at 11:51 AM

    • You have to be very disciplined.

      That tends to go along with a higher IQ. Not genius, but pretty high.

      not too late

      October 1, 2016 at 9:19 PM

  6. Humanity evolved through labor. There is simply no other way. If you don’t work, you shrivel and become a shadow of a man. There is no life without work. I’m speaking broadly here and addressing humanity as a whole.


    September 30, 2016 at 12:07 PM

    • I’m not vouching for parasitism, but America is a land of parasites, and many harmful ones at that.

      Why should I work hard, where my hard earned money pays for their existence? Working hard for a paycheck in NYC, it pays for NAMs, and you also pay for groups like the Haredim. Why? Why should I labor hard and my money goes to these groups, who don’t add any beneficial value to society.

      The same reason why many HBD aware capitalists find many good reasons to outsource manufacture to parts of Asia and Latin America.


      September 30, 2016 at 2:28 PM

      • ‘Why should I labor hard and my money goes to these groups, who don’t add any beneficial value to society.’

        This is about the dummies comment I’ve read. Trump lives in in NYC, is worth 10 billion dollars and they say he pays no taxes. I live in NYC and pay no taxes. Nobody works to pay taxes. You work to earn money and because you love your job. Trump and I love our jobs and we make money. I like Trump on the working level. One day I may have a chat with him and we gonna have good time. Absolutely. In US you pay 28% income tax on $100,000, in Quebec it’s 47.5%!

        ‘The same reason why many HBD aware capitalists find many good reasons to outsource manufacture to parts of Asia and Latin America.’

        What HBD aware capitalists? You are a comedy. Slaves earning $2 a day assembling your gadgets are docile and more profitable. You think everybody is stupid here?

        Basically the bottom and the top are of the radar screen when it comes to taxes. The middle is having it rough, but nothing compared to Canada or Europe. To refresh your failing nemory: AMERICA = OPPORTUNITY. Again, this is all you need to know or will ever need to know. Your case is closed.


        September 30, 2016 at 4:08 PM

      • How many people with their white collar-office jobs get to pay zero in taxes, typical of cheats like yourself. Opportunity? Like what? Should everybody become a blue collar tradesman, working off the books?

        28% on the 100,000. Ok, but you forgot another 10%-15% on NY taxes, and another 7.65% on FICA (Social Security and Medicare), which many of us younger people won’t see at retirement. And good luck raking in 100K outside of a liberal center like NYC.

        And I rather pay 47.5% in Québec, where my money goes to the White majority, unlike the United States, where my taxes pay for all kinds of welfare subsidies for NAMs and the large police force that keeps them at bay.


        September 30, 2016 at 8:51 PM

      • So if Quebec doesn’t have NAMs why are the taxes so high? Should be very low.

        Makes no sense to prefer to pay taxes in Canada rather then US. The blacks were enslaved and are low IQ, so there is justificatiin in them getting government assistance that comes out of your taxes because you benefited from their labor and they are stupid. But why should French Canadians milk you dry? This is pure masochism on your part.


        October 1, 2016 at 7:56 PM

      • Masochist? New Yorkers are masochists. They live in an expensive city

        French Canadian taxes are high. Well take a look at NYC once again, since you do not understand:

        This is NYC on a 100K salary —

        28% Federal tax + 10%-15% NY tax + 7.25% FICA = 45.25%

        How much is it? And this doesn’t include rent which will cost you at least another 20,000 annually.


        October 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM

      • ‘Should everybody become a blue collar tradesman, working off the books?’

        You gotta follow your instincts, not be a copycat, obviously. However, to pay 47.5% on a $100,000 means being pretty low on the evolutionary scale. You are left with a $1000 a week to live on. This, my freind, is peanuts. Yes, peanuts. You should be earning more AND keeping more. Take out you boomerang, asegai, crossbow or AK-47 and do what you have to do to win the natural selection battle! No wonder women run away from you. I would. You are a dinosaur.


        October 1, 2016 at 8:14 PM

      • Again, French Canadian taxes are high, because they pay for school, housing, utilities and also healthcare. In turn, the cost of living is lower.

        At the moment, I don’t really work there. However, I telecommute online with an American employer who pays me, as if I live in NYC, reflective of its high cost of living, in return I get to enjoy the lower cost living of Canada. I will be able to report it on my income on the US tax form as completely non-taxable, if I Stay in Canada for the entire year.

        Even better than you, mate. You cheat on the tax system, I don’t. I know the legitimate loopholes.


        October 2, 2016 at 11:24 AM

      • So you don’t have to report it as income either Canada or US? Are you sure? Send me a link to these rules. My niece telecommuters with a company in Moscow while living in Israel and enjoying a lower Russian tax rate. Maybe she should work for an NYC firm, if what you are saying is true. She is a SAP programmer.


        October 2, 2016 at 6:24 PM

      • Research foreign income exclusion of US citizens from the IRS website.

        I can evade American taxes legally by living in Canada, up to ~ 100K . In terms of Canada, I can write off expenses on my income or declare less, because they have no record of what the American companies pay me.


        October 2, 2016 at 10:31 PM

      • ‘Again, French Canadian taxes are high, because they pay for school, housing, utilities and also healthcare.’

        What housing? What utilities? How much goes to health care? They rob you, mate. To pay 47.5% on $100,000 is to have no self-respect. I mean, I did a little job which took me 2 hours plus 3 hours travel time. My profit was $375, which is very modest, but I got stuck in traffic. If I had to pay 47.5% in taxes, I would stay home. Not gonna do it for $200. Should I bill the customer double now? Makes no sense. You what rents are like, even a cup of coffee ain’t cheap.


        October 2, 2016 at 6:40 PM

      • Do you not get it Yakov?

        America rapes you 28% and 7.25% of your 100K, and NY rapes you with 10%-15% of your 100K. So it works out the same. And this does not even include health insurance, which you will have to pay separately. And you will be paying market rate utilities and market rate housing.

        Who says they tax everyone at 47.5%, regardless of income? You need to do further research. The less you earn, they less they tax. There is no flat tax rate for everybody in anywhere in Canada.

        Average 1 br apt in French Canada is about $500-$1000. What’s the average in NYC for 1 br apt, about $1,700. Ridiculous. And idiots who can afford to live near their workplace (because it’s more expensive) commute long hours just to work, and then get their paycheck raped by the gov’t. Talking about being a masochist.

        In terms of electricity, how much New Yorkers on average pay? ~$100 a month, compare to $20 in French Canada.


        October 2, 2016 at 8:28 PM

    • The “free market” no longer provides enough jobs. If you want everyone to have a job, you will need to have a federally funded job guarantee.


      September 30, 2016 at 5:24 PM

    • Humans evolved through sexual intercourse. There simply is no other way. If you don’t have sex and produce children you shrivel and become a shadow of a man.

      And yet… The pill, condoms, and 5000 other forms of birth control later… Thats exactly what happened.

      Just because you want to believe in an outmoded way of life doesn’t make it so. I agree with you jobs are necessary, but sadly so is 1950s era social mores and levels of promiscuity. Sorry buddy Pandora’s box can’t be closed, again sadly.

      Also how is driving an uber different from playing a car oriented video game where the objective is to mine bitcoins by collecting passengers? At least one doesn’t waste real petroleum.

      Like I said, the only way for most people to have work and be forced to work for their existence and face real selection pressure but also be dealt a fair hand in life is for each man to be able to buy his own plot of farm land for cheap and work the fields.

      That for the poorest among us combined with an end of cheap monetary policy should return the wealth distribution to resemble more of a lognormal function than an exponential function as it does now.

      Want to know why Warren Buffet has $40B and 48M Americans are on food stamps and another 48M are barely struggling to make ends meet? because good old uncle Warren has been given stock price inflation courtesy of currency debasement. Every dollar that the Fed expands the monetary base by goes straight to leveraged institutions like the primary dealer banks (JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, etc) and gets filtered through their affiliate credit line companies and trading partners (hedge funds, big asset managers like Pimco, etc). For every dollar the Fed puts into the money supply $4 more or however many get thrown into the equity market by these large financial insitutions as buying pressure. Not only does this drive down bond yields but it also drives stock prices through the roof. So before you had MSFT yielding 5% per year because it existed at a 12x multiple which would be normal for a boring blue chip that doesn’t have any real growth prospects, now it trades at 30x yielding 2% per year.

      Meanwhile no value was actually created, but the people holding the stock got rich (again financial institutions, wealthy billionaires, and the occasional lucky schmuck who happens to believe in the status quo). The problem with the lucky schmuck who believes in the status quo is he lacks the size for this to actually impact his net worth and offset he 10% hit he took to his wages from either inflation or wage stagnation due to the Fed’s debasement of the currency.

      Zero interest rate policy is the greatest trickle up scam ever perpetuated on any people anywhere. The neoliberals in power like shitting on Reagans trickle down economics. So far the only people employing trickle down are the democrats and liberal economists. Except uncle Warren likes paying low taxes so he doesn’t even give back the 33% of the loot he just pulled over on the US taxpaying dollar denominated US citizen.


      October 1, 2016 at 1:57 AM

      • ‘Also how is driving an uber different from playing a car oriented video game where the objective is to mine bitcoins by collecting passengers? At least one doesn’t waste real petroleum.’

        Never heard of it, dunno. I think it can’t be done. An Uber driver makes $200-300 a day. Can you make that playing a car oriented game? Why are all these guys driving then? Obviously you can’t.

        Why you wanna turn people back to subsistence farming? Can’t they just play a video game where the objective is to plant stuff and then sell it for a bunch of bitcoins?


        October 1, 2016 at 8:08 PM

      • “Humans evolved through sexual intercourse. There simply is no other way. If you don’t have sex and produce children you shrivel and become a shadow of a man.

        And yet… The pill, condoms, and 5000 other forms of birth control later… Thats exactly what happened.”

        Which is why China went with the one child policy. People would still have a legacy and someone to love and live for. Sure some people want no kids, but that is not really normal. In the USA about 20% of women have no kids. Fine, but when they die, there likely will be fewer of their sort in the next generation.

        Most children in the USA live in a household with at least two siblings. So even though most women have two children or fewer, the far lower number of women who have three or more still have enough for their kids to outnumber those of the majority.

        Having fewer children must be more highly incentivized among the poor. Poor women aged 16 and up should get a check every month that they come in and have a negative pregnancy test.

        not too late

        October 1, 2016 at 9:30 PM

  7. This sort of automation argument reminds me of a recent debate at Vox Popoli on the Alt-West vs. the Alt-White, whether the alt-movement should focus on whiteness as a race, as opposed to traditional western civilization where whiteness is an important component, along with Christianity, pagan tribes, and Greco-Roman civilization. These sort of “original position” arguments are interesting but I think they miss the point.

    The problem the Alt-Right is facing is the anti-White, genocidal Western governments that have taken hold, using government policies to attack and destroy White people. Similarly, the problem is not automation, the problem is mass immigration orchestrated by the government. The problem of too many people exhausting a peculiar living space in a race-to-the-bottom is becoming a far greater issue than losing jobs to machines. Heck, automation just proves that we do not need more immigrants, yet we keep getting more of them. Automation even obviates offshore outsourcing, since there is nothing magical about running a machine tool on different soil. Yet, we still get offshore outsourcing. No, automation will never be an issue and, even if it was, businesses would still want to import more people to get more junk consumers and to hedge against that very technology.

    The immigrants are not here to work or to better their lives. They are you jailers. They are here to steal from you, to dilute your political voice and to help the government run an open air prison. That is the real issue at hand.


    September 30, 2016 at 12:23 PM

    • Well said!


      October 1, 2016 at 10:38 AM

    • I would have no problem living in an automated, all-white society but I really do not want to live in a “multicultural” society where most people don’t have jobs.

      Larry Indiana

      October 1, 2016 at 1:24 PM

    • “e of a recent debate at Vox Popoli on the Alt-West vs. the Alt-White, whether the alt-movement should focus on whiteness as a race, as opposed to traditional western civilization ”

      What was the upshot?


      October 2, 2016 at 8:52 PM

  8. feel like trump might be done. he debates finished him and clinton is up everywhere.

    james n.s.w

    September 30, 2016 at 12:52 PM

    • The truth has to be faced: if he cannot annihilate Clinton in a one on one debate, he isn’t very good. He is the last hope, though.


      September 30, 2016 at 1:12 PM

      • Yakov – you are an immigrant right? I on the other hand am not an immigrant and have had friends since 1976 who were, in turn , friends of friends of people like Romney (I worked on a stupid little congressional campaign in 1976 with a guy who was one of Romney’s top advisors in 2012 and who, obviously, screwed up. I did not like the guy then and don’t like him now, but I did vote for Romney). Trump had no desire to annihilate Clinton in that first debate. All he wanted to do was show that, hey, I am a plausible guy, and I think she is plausible enough that I should not go all medieval on her. There was no other way – in Trump’s or Kellyanne Conway’s thinking – to get the swing voters who think they (Trump and Clinton)are both plausible to trend towards him. And he did not want to fire up her base by calling her the enabling wife of a rapist, as you would have done in your immigrant ignorance (and in would have worked in whatever uber-prole country you were born in, with all due respect). Sadly, I still think Trump will lose not because he is not a sharp debater but because he has no idea how likely it is that , even though he will easily take Ohio and a couple other working-class states, he will lose the boutique states like Wisconsin and Virginia that he could have won because he is a conglomerate guy who doesn’t know that elections are not conglomerate business, they are get it right the first time businesses and I expect he will lose and then say gee I did not recognize how much better her ground game was, give me another chance and I will really show her!!! or maybe he will win, I have no idea, of course. God will not be mocked, I know that, but none of us can claim that we will not be mocked, am I right?

        howitzer daniel

        September 30, 2016 at 10:49 PM

    • Wrong. The numbers coming in from FL re-confirm his strength there. Trump is sitting comfortably at 260 electoral votes right now. Not including NV and CO which puts him over.

      The train is fine.

      Andrew E.

      September 30, 2016 at 2:55 PM

      • Clinton is running TV ads in California. Let that sink in…California. Why on earth is she doing that? California is about as safe a state as there is for her, so why is she spending the money?

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        September 30, 2016 at 3:20 PM

      • It’s not wrong that Trump couldn’t best Hillary in a debate, that should’ve been a walkover. I’m not talking about numbers here.


        September 30, 2016 at 3:45 PM

      • Did Obama run adds in CA? Clinton might just have more money than she knows what to do with.

        Otis the Sweaty

        September 30, 2016 at 5:26 PM

      • “Clinton is running TV ads in California. Let that sink in…California. Why on earth is she doing that? ”

        That makes zero sense. Could she have that much money that she feels she can burn it like that? Wait till she gets her hands on the Treasury…

        Mike Street Station

        September 30, 2016 at 6:30 PM


        Tell me, this ain’t stupid? Like who cares? All you have to do is to articulate your political program in 5 minutes or less, on two sheets of paper or less and on the level that an average voter (IQ 90?) can understand it. Clinton doesn’t have what to offer, Trump does, but gets bogged down with utter rubbish. There is something wrong with him. Damn! I hope he does build that wall at least. Who knows. This is a total mess. The guy has a winning message and brings the campaign down to tabloid level. I had patience for his antics during primaries, but now I’ve had it. Next debate if he doesn’t talk real issues clearly and firmly, I will be completly put off. Damn! We are getting a tabloid president now. This guy is going to disgrace America, I’m telling you. Clinton is worse, though. Clinton is death, this guy? Who knows. Unhinged, definitely unhinged. I would’ve made minced meat out of Clinton, but he just messes up the opportunity to talk to the whole country direct! Doesn’t make any sense. I know I’m low IQ and intelligence, but WTH is this?


        September 30, 2016 at 6:38 PM

      • Yakov, Trump is a real person, not a politio-bot.


        September 30, 2016 at 9:47 PM

      • Yakov, for the thousandth time… People aren’t voting for a policy sperg. Otherwise it’d be Ted Cruz versus Bernie Sanders. People are voting for gibsmedat deliverers and charismatic strongmen types. I mean that for both candidates. Trump had the gibsmedat angle covered with some of his populism. It’s just a question of Who? Whom? Likewise Hillary has some charisma as a strong woman. Her voice is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. She just sounds professional. She clearly hails from the managerial class. On TV both candidates sound reasonable while essentially saying nothing and that is what’s scary. With Trump it’s intentional. With Hillary it’s just typical academia blather about systemic racism being the reason the Hutus massacred the Tutsis.

        Hillary also has the Machiavellian thing going. Her base knows she will fight for their interests, if only because they know she wants their votes.

        If you are expecting someone to say something as if it came from Razib Kahns blog or akinokure on stage you’d best not be holding your breath. That’s fine, we dont need a population of Steve Sailors spouting off about the sad determinism of standardized tests. We just need some modicum of common sense restored seeing as how PC completely murdered it.


        October 1, 2016 at 12:43 AM

      • what numbers coming in from florida? you mean these?

        sometimes you need to step off blogs like this because they give you a distorted view of reality

        james n.s.w

        October 1, 2016 at 6:42 AM

      • @Yakov. Trump doesn’t have to bring up Bill Clinton’s peccadillo’s in the debate. Just by floating the trial balloon that he might could throw her off her game and have her waste time preparing one liners and come backs for an attack that never comes.

        Or he could really use it on debate 2.0 and I’m wrong. We’ll see.

        Mike Street Station

        October 1, 2016 at 11:20 AM

      • what numbers coming in from florida? you mean these?

        You want to be led around by the nose like a moron by the largest, coordinated con job in the history of media go ahead. But it’s not difficult to discern what’s going on. The FL Repubs have a big advantage in new party registrations over the Dems since 2012. They also have a massive lead in absentee ballot requests in FL which never happens. All the FL polls show Trump with double digit leads (10-20 points) among independents. And any FL poll showing Killary tied or ahead have large Dem oversamples. And then of course you have the visuals of the rallies where Killary can’t fill school gymnasiums and Trump can put 10,000 people in a convention center on 24 hours notice on a weekday afternoon.

        Andrew E.

        October 1, 2016 at 1:32 PM

      • That poll from Hotair is a sample size of 500 people. Now, I understand basic statistics. There is a principle where the larger the population you are trying to sample, the smaller the percentage sample you need. So, for, say, 100,000 units, you may need to sample 10% but for a million units, you may only need to sample 3%.

        This is all well and good if you are trying to do quality control on a production line of ball bearings, but we are talking about human beings who have the option to respond to a poll. Even if you’ve extracted your statistically sound sample, how do you get every person to respond? You can’t. At what point do you need to keep re-running the sample when your existing sample is tainted with non-respondents? That gets exceedingly expensive so I would not be surprised if they cheat and don;t re-run new samples when the existing samples have a huge non-response rate.

        There is a further problem.

        I recently answered a poll for some education survey. At the end, they ask you for your name and address, or, at, least, they confirm that your name and address is correct. Polls are, therefore, readily identifying you with your political views. Do you honestly think a Trump supporter will answer such an invasive poll?


        October 2, 2016 at 1:30 AM

      • “I recently answered a poll for some education survey. At the end, they ask you for your name and address,”

        Are you sure the “poll” wasn’t just a marketing scam?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 2, 2016 at 9:21 AM

      • Lion,

        “Are you sure the “poll” wasn’t just a marketing scam?”

        The company that called was SSI, which looks like b2b survey sampling company. They were conducting a survey on the quality of local education, whether you think federal or local control of schooling matters, whether you think grades and tests are important, and they would ask you about your political affiliations. At the end, they confirmed my name and location.


        October 2, 2016 at 12:47 PM


      Ohio, James.

      Hillary is doing very well among groups of people that may not come out to vote for her. Mind you, I think she might well win, but Ohio?


      October 1, 2016 at 10:54 AM

  9. “Within this framework, Trump’s ideas on trade make more sense, because he wants to keep jobs in the United States while the Democrats, as well as other Republicans who hate Trump, support the globalization that is sending such jobs overseas.”

    At the end of WW II the industrial base of Europe and Asia had been largely destroyed while the industrial base in the USA had been untouched by WW II. The USA was able to dominate world industrial markets after WW II and wages of industrial workers in the USA went up. By the 60s the other industrial centers were starting to recover and they targeted the USA market with their lower cost products. The USA industrial sector has been in decline ever since. The decline started way before NAFTA or other trade deals.

    If the USA were to cancel trade deals and raise tariff barriers, the result would be inflation in the USA. Foreign countries don’t pay tariffs, the consumers that buy products pay the tariffs. Hopefully, that will bring some manufacturing jobs back to the USA, but those products will still be more expensive. On the other hand, other countries will also raise tariffs for US goods, so jobs will be lost in the US at companies that do a lot of export sales today. It is not clear whether the US will gain or lose net jobs by terminating trade agreements, but I think it is pretty clear that it will make products more expensive in the US and other markets.


    September 30, 2016 at 2:19 PM

    • By the 60s the other industrial centers were starting to recover and they targeted the USA market with their lower cost products. The USA industrial sector has been in decline ever since.

      The 1950s was the true Gilded Age; the Roaring 20s was the Golden Age. The industrial machinery that won WWII for America was constructed between 1865-1932; that period is also the last time America followed a worthy economic blueprint.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      September 30, 2016 at 5:52 PM

    • International trade is a shell game. Those products are only cheaper if you retain your job. If you end up like a Carrier employee, then “cheaper” is entirely relative. International trade really has no benefit but to make money for huge corporations that rely on junk growth to re-import their products.


      September 30, 2016 at 9:55 PM

    • so your theory is that american decline is due to competition?

      It is not clear whether the US will gain or lose net jobs by terminating trade agreements.

      to the extent that product is proportional to number employed the enormous US trade deficit makes it very clear. many more jobs will be created than lost.

      and what will be more expensive? nothing important. when the US had a trade surplus the cost of living was not intolerable. housing, food, utilities, transportation…what? the US is already a fairly closed economy.
      childcare, healthcare, education for the kids won’t be more expensive as the result of trade deals.


      September 30, 2016 at 10:45 PM

      • so your theory is that american decline is due to competition?

        After WW2, America was the only major manufacturing economy left standing. So the world turned to American exports and America’s economy boomed. As other countries recovered and rebuilt their manufacturing base, the international competition put downward pressure on prices which was good for consumers everywhere. But it also put downward pressure on profits and wages of American manufacturers and workers specifically. Lower prices don’t help when they’re overshadowed by even lower profits and wages. The net result was that Americans were worse off.

        to the extent that product is proportional to number employed the enormous US trade deficit makes it very clear. many more jobs will be created than lost.

        Agreed. We’re losing $800B per year. That’s unsustainable. I think Buffet is a shyster but like his idea for dealing with the trade deficit.

        and what will be more expensive? nothing important. when the US had a trade surplus the cost of living was not intolerable.

        Agreed. People already buy most of the stuff they need from American sources anyway. It’s the stuff they don’t need that they’re buying from overseas. America’s economy is being decimated because people are spending money they don’t have to buy stuff they don’t need to impress people they don’t even like.


        October 1, 2016 at 1:39 PM

      • Healthcare is the most expensive thing in this country right now. It is part of what makes US manufacturing and businesses uncompetitive with Canada in Europe in certain instances and it also makes life extremely expensive for your average every day prole or middle class person who plays by the rules. It accounts for almost 20% of GDP and nearly 33% of government spending (~$1.3 trillion on medicare, medicaid, and the prescription drug programs including medicare part D – signed by GW Bush in 2003).

        That means the government is funding 1/4 of all the Health care costs in this country. But wait… if you include state spending on medical costs government employee insurance subsidies and various other goodies it might be closer to 2/3 of healthcare spending in the US is paid for by government.

        Can we stop calling it a free market now? There hasn’t been a free healthcare market in the US since at least 1950, but probably closer to just before world war 2, when the concept of employer funded health insurance was created from the primordial flames of hell to poach workers from competitors (there was a labor shortage in World War 2 dontchya know).

        This post sums up why we are economically so screwed now and it is all healthcare costs:

        Health care has become worse than the currency debasement scheme (although the two are linked) that robs us of 5-10% of our purchasing power every year now.

        Trump will fix healthcare. His point 5 in his medical plan on his site says he will go after the monopolistic and illegal behavior of medical providers to end the racketeering that has been going on by big pharma companies and hospitals (reimportation bans are a joke and cause drugs to cost 80% more in the US while subsidizing Canada and Europe to the tune of 50% as well as India and China).

        No more going in for a knee replacement with no quoted price and coming out with an $80,000 bill. No more going in for an MRI with a $2,000 price if you pay cash versus the insurance company “negotiating” paying a $400 price.

        It all ends when Trump takes office.

        Likewise that 4-5x overpayment in GDP for healthcare (roughly $3 trillion) will be reallocated to new and productive industries that will hopefully employee more people than a few rich bureaucrats and striving upper middle class Excel sheet managers. Yes the bobo class will be poorer. No more $500,000 per year salaries for vice presidents at Cigna and Blue Cross, but for every hack that gets cut from $500K to $100K, 4 new jobs will form paying $100K or more as productive capacity is rebuilt instead of wealth transfer monopolistic practices.

        It’s hard to believe it’s been 40 years since Ma Bell was broken up and yet people are still being price gouged in a similar way as they were with their phone lines. At least Ma Bell had Bell Labs and invented stuff and paid engineers. Today’s Ma Bell’s just pay their bobos fat salaries and said bobos then go spend it on stupid shit like artisanal hand made tofu.


        October 1, 2016 at 2:12 PM

      • After WW2, America was the only major manufacturing economy left standing. So the world turned to American exports and America’s economy boomed.

        It doesn’t make any sense to say that the rest of the world economy was trashed and so we prospered by exporting to them. If you goto this site and put in a custom date range you can see that the US had a very low balance balances of trade (and sometimes even deficits) in the 1950s. We had low imports and low exports, something that we could totally reproduce any time we wanted.


        October 1, 2016 at 6:14 PM

      • Magnavox — Your link didn’t post so I googled and found another one. Apparently, US manufacturing exports didn’t play that large of a role in America’s economic boom post-WW2 after all. This economist says it’s a common misconception. Thanks for the correction.


        October 1, 2016 at 10:34 PM

      • The manufacturing of foreign countries recovered because American politicians allowed mass imports without forcing foreign markets open. Essentially, America enabled foreign mercantilism.


        October 2, 2016 at 12:52 PM

      • and according to a post by prof shoe, the main driver of the increase in tuition at public universities is healthcare costs.

        in my state the public unis get 10% or less of their funding from taxes, and tuition isn’t that high compared to other states. i conclude that public higher ed simply doesn’t exist in les etats unis merdeux anymore.

        i can hear the death rattle already.

        United States of America
        1776 – 2016
        murdered by libertarians

      • as js has said, quoting me.

        it’s over. the only solution is emigration.

        if the germans hadn’t ruined europe for the third time in 100 years the obscenity that is the US would be more apparent.

      • ” At least Ma Bell had Bell Labs and invented stuff and paid engineers. ”

        Great point. Is there such a thing as Apple Labs? If so does it do anything for anyone other than Apple?


        October 3, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    • Another autistic economic argument.

      1st Order: Trade means larger overall surplus but more unemployment for many.

      2nd Order: If trade means greater unemployment, how the hell are you going to buy “cheaper products”? (And they arent due to oligopolisitc markets and cartels in many product and service categories).

      3rd order: Now youre lending money to your down on his luckk ex manufacturing worker daddy/uncle subtracts from your income.

      4th order: Credit reliance in turn feeds credit bubble with no agg demand

      5th order: political concentration of surplus winners means politicans serve them and make the system more rigged

      6th order: revolution and crime equals loos of eco activity

      7th order: Other countries become more powerful and take your lunch money

      8th order: Globalists start asset stripping and looting the country

      9th order….

      Is this an infinite negative regression happening? Yesssa masta!

      They should ban anyone autistic from studying or saying anything about human beings.

      The Philosopher

      October 1, 2016 at 4:14 PM

      • good on ya…

        most americans think of marx as some kind of SJW on steroids.

        (because they’ve never read him…let alone understood him.)


        marx is one of only 3 philosophers worthy of the name past 1850.

        the others are, of course, also germans…

        nietzsche and heidegger.

        and marx is the one of the 3 that has had a practical impact.

        to what extent “marx” is really “marx and engels” i don’t know, does anyone? but engels was the rich guy…the rich gentile guy.

    • Trade deficits should be self correcting. If the US buys more imports than it exports, US currency should decline, making imported goods more expensive and reducing the price of US exports in foreign markets. After all these years of US trade deficits, why has this not happened? Some countries have engaged in currency manipulation to try to prevent this, but the major reason is because the US dollar is an international reserve currency. There is a demand for US dollars to be used for international currency reserves and investments.

      To completely wipe out the US trade deficit, the US dollar would have to stop being used as an international reserve currency. Because the US dollar is the international reserve currency of choice, the value of the US dollar has been inflated relative to other currencies.

      As a side point, the problem that Greece currently has is because it does not have its own currency. If Greece had its own currency, the value of the currency would decline, making Greek products very inexpensive and imported good very expensive in Greece. This would create jobs in Greece and kick start growth. Sine the USA has its own currency, the same thing cannot happen in the USA. That does not mean the USA can run whatever deficits it wants, but Greece is not a model of what will happen to the USA if it runs big deficits.


      October 2, 2016 at 12:02 AM

      • Yes, it’s a pretty good deal. The world is giving us tangible stuff, and in return we are giving back fiat currency (which isn’t even on paper anymore).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 2, 2016 at 9:19 AM

      • Correction. The world’s oligarchs are lending money to our proles and middle class strivers to allow them to buy their shit on credit, to let those oligarchs appear paper rich for a time and buy real hard assets like real estate and manufacturing. And they would have gotten away with it (the perpetual motion machine that is) if it wasn’t for a lack of those pesky meddling kids. No population growth means no GDP growth, just per capita shrinking GDP which leads to aggregate GDP shrinkage and rapidly ballooning debt to GDP ratio.

        Also like The Philosopher’s autism-globalism cycle up above.


        October 2, 2016 at 10:45 AM

      • The reason why the dollar is the international reserve currency is because the US is the world’s biggest importer. So many sales of foreign products in the US are denominated in dollars leading to a huge surplus of dollars held around the world.

        This creates enormous political power for Washington, where access to the US market can determine a company’s fortunes.

        It’s important to remember that trade is a political act. It is never a good idea to be dependent on a foreign country for your economic health.


        October 2, 2016 at 12:59 PM

      • The currency manipulation is, in part, a result of the world currency reserve status of the dollar. If Trump is successful in getting our trading partners to stop devaluing their currencies, then he’s essentially telling them to stop using the dollar to settle their trade, to stop using the dollar as their reserve currency.

        The benefits of these endless trade deficits made possible by this currency arrangement are countered by the de-industrialization of the nation and concomitant loss of national sovereignty.

        Andrew E.

        October 2, 2016 at 10:30 PM

      • wrong again mike.

        here’s the explanation from the imf.

        developed countries by current account balance as % of gdp

        1 Taiwan 12.35%
        2 Netherlands 10.24%
        3 Norway 9.43%
        4 Germany 7.39%
        5 Switzerland 7.27%
        6 South Korea 6.33%
        7 Denmark 6.26%
        8 Sweden 6.20%
        9 Luxembourg 5.06%
        10 Israel 4.34%
        11 Ireland 3.62%
        12 Iceland 3.41%
        13 Italy 1.91%
        14 Hong Kong 1.87%
        15 Belgium 1.62%
        16 Greece 0.93%
        17 Spain 0.80%
        18 Austria 0.74%
        19 Portugal 0.55%
        20 Japan 0.53%
        21 France -0.93%
        22 Finland -1.86%
        23 Canada -2.10% anglosphere
        24 United States -2.25% anglosphere
        25 Australia -3.03% anglosphere
        26 New Zealand -3.27% anglosphere
        27 United Kingdom -5.90% anglosphere

      • I won ..:

        wrong again mike.

        here’s the explanation from the imf.


        A list of numbers is not an explanation of anything.

        What is your point?

        The countries with the largest trade deficit as a percentage of GDP are all English speaking countries? So are you suggesting that if we adopt a different language it would magically fix the trade deficit?


        October 3, 2016 at 4:46 PM

      • the point is…

        your explanation is purely economic/political. it’s an abstraction. it’s not concrete.

        as with so many economic phenomena, a better explanation is cultural or ethnic. that all of the white dominions and the uk are at the very bottom of the list cannot be by chance, and your explanation only works for one of them. anglo-saxon economic policy is hated by continentals.

      • i won…:
        as with so many economic phenomena, a better explanation is cultural or ethnic. that all of the white dominions and the uk are at the very bottom of the list cannot be by chance, and your explanation only works for one of them. anglo-saxon economic policy is hated by continentals.

        I believe that England probably also has significant inflow of foreign investment income, a lot coming from its former colonies. The English pound is much more stable currency than most of the world currencies. Many wealthy people from Africa and the Middle East funnel a significant portion of their wealth into England. Austria and New Zealand are much smaller economies and I don’t know very much about them, but perhaps they are attracting investment capital inflows too.

        Wealthy business people do like to invest their money in countries with Anglo-Saxon economic policies.


        October 4, 2016 at 4:03 PM

  10. with the rest working for the government

    I’m going to have dinner with my 12-year old nephew tonight. I’m going to encourage him to become a firefighter. That’ll start a nice argument between me and my multi-millionaire doctor-brother and doctor-sis-in-law who want him to become an engineer.

    the 1970s showing only the kind of dreck that was on TV in the 1970s.

    Charlie’s Angels, Welcome Back Kotter, and Happy Days were not dreck, sir!

    E. Rekshun

    September 30, 2016 at 2:50 PM

    • When’s the last time you watched it?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      September 30, 2016 at 3:03 PM

      • Rockford Files. Watched the whole thing a year or so ago. It’s great.

        September 30, 2016 at 4:49 PM

      • Haven’t watched these shows since I got my drivers’ license in 1980. But I was clicking through the channels the other day, and came upon Welcome Back Kotter. I got depressed and had to shut the boob-tube off because impostors were standing in for Barbarino and Epstien.

        E. Rekshun

        October 1, 2016 at 5:28 AM

      • Welcome Back Kotter only had two good years I think.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 1, 2016 at 12:19 PM

    • TV is trash. If anything in this world is prole – that’s TV. I despise that idiot box.


      September 30, 2016 at 3:47 PM

    • Old shows often don’t seem funny anymore because the humor in them was grounded in the cultural norms of an healthier and more stable culture. It is we who have changed and now require the cynicism of Russians to be amused.

      I still enjoy putting on my way back mind and enjoying the gentle humor of Taxi, That Girl, Mary Tyler Moore and WKRP.


      September 30, 2016 at 5:28 PM

      • I watched an old Star Trek episode on Netflix a few months ago and it was so slow paced I had forgotten how they made TV in the 1960’s. For young people now, it would be virtually unwatchable. No wonder JJ Abrams turned the Star Trek movies in action movies.

        Mike Street Station

        October 1, 2016 at 11:23 AM

      • Star Trek II – The Wrath of Khan is still the best ST out there. The dark broody imagery of the show makes it almost a horror film.

        Khan’s sand pets – his parasitic brain eels still gives anyone the creeps on the same level as the facehugger and chestburster of Alien. He gets scientific with them – “wrapping around one’s cerebral cortex, making one highly suggestible, ultimately leading to insanity and death”. And it was sadistic Leonard Nimoy, who came up with the idea of these lifeforms. It makes you wonder if our politicians have been plugged with these ear worms that make them crazy.

        It’s also quite fascinating that there were no Hispanic crew members on the original Enterprise. White Hispanic-Ricardo Montalban, who was an evil, almost invincible super-villain, represents the Latin threat that would loom over Anglo-Prole-America decades later. Captain Kirk (who happens to be Jewish in real life as with Spock) and his multicult gentile crew — kind of makes you wonder if Star Trek is about America, its status/class stratification and power grabbing-racial/ethnic politics. You’ll find it in Star Wars, but ST is a more of an accurate representation.


        October 3, 2016 at 1:57 PM

    • an md wants his kid to be an engineer?

      not an md?

      it’s funny. two brothers were among the “rich kids” at my hs…their dad was an anesthesiologist.

      the two became a real estate salesman and a community banker (his bank specializes in dentists…iirc).

      if the dad’s got so much that his kid never needs to work…he should have much higher ambitions for his kid.


      only if he starts his own company.

      • E. Rekshun’s brother started his career as a general practitioner but switched sides early on to become a medical director for an insurance company. Working for the insurance company, he has made far more money than any physician ever could in general practice. He would also be in a good position to know that the future of medicine is not very bright and to steer his kid in another direction.


        October 2, 2016 at 6:02 PM

      • an md wants his kid to be an engineer?

        This is pretty common; I’m surprised that you’re surprised. Speaking as an MD, I would only recommend medicine to a kid with a certain temperament, and engineering holds a great appeal to parents who know their kid is (for example) pretty introverted but still want him to be white-collar and “respectable”.

        Samson J.

        October 4, 2016 at 4:56 PM

    • My doctor friends want their kids to be dentists. Only way to be a dentist in USA is to go to an AMERICAN dental school and spend 200K. So high barriers to entry.

      Also dentists are free from insurance and Obamacare. The drawback is its a physically demanding work. You are stopping over a patient and wrestling his teeth.


      October 2, 2016 at 1:12 PM

    • I’m going to encourage him to become a firefighter.

      It is a great career for someone who isn’t too bright or ambitious.


      October 3, 2016 at 2:35 PM

      • I am a career firefighter in a large east coast city and it is a great career that I would advise any young man to pursue so long as he has the stomach and right temperament for the job. If you are “bright or ambitious type (I was when I was younger, ambitious that is) you are off 3 weeks a month and can maintain a side business which is something I always did that has allowed me to become very well off. All in all it’s a great job if you are cut out for it.


        October 3, 2016 at 4:47 PM

      • What about the pussy aspect?


        October 3, 2016 at 11:23 PM

      • “The pussy aspect”, well let’s see. There are groupies if you will called “house mouses”, I would stay away from these women as they are unhinged and sometimes psychotic pin-cushions. However the job is a large fraternal institution full of lots of social, gregarious alpha males (not exclusively but certainly a majority). Therefore so and so always has a new girlfriend with lots of single friends (“Oh my gawd, you’re a fireman…you have any hot fireman friends?”) and there’s always a party or pub crawl or whatever going on so basically it’s much easier to get laid than it would have been for me had I been union electrician like the rest of my friends. I have found that SWPL women (we call them yuppies here) like to have a good time with men of my ilk but don’t view us as suitable long-term partners, that being said I am married to one so I’m an exception. That never mattered to me when I was single because nurses, teachers, barmaids etc. love us and they’re more fun in the sack anyhow and are generally not as corrupted by feminism as yuppies.

        roxborough's son

        October 4, 2016 at 9:16 AM

  11. The Debate Commission pretty much admits that someone had sabotaged Trump’s mic. Why didn’t Trump have his own audio professionals checkout the equipment? If he did, the sabotage was was timed to occur at show time.,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=69&cntnt01origid=27&cntnt01detailtemplate=newspage&cntnt01returnid=80

    Mark Caplan

    September 30, 2016 at 3:31 PM

    • Negative. They’re saying there was a problem with the audio in the hall, not the microphone. Also, I’m not sure why Trump insists on saying he didn’t have the sniffles.

      I like how Clinton has been criticized as having a “robotic” performance when we all know damn well that if she so much as cleared her throat all of the conspiracy theorists on here would be jumping up and down, “See, she’s dying!!!!!!!!!!!!1oen”


      October 1, 2016 at 4:30 AM

      • The Debate Commission said there was an audio problem in the hall only with the sound coming from Trump’s mic, not Hillary’s. The audio in the broadcast from both debaters was fine.

        Mark Caplan

        October 2, 2016 at 9:48 AM

      • It could have thrown Trump off his game because he was aware of the problem even though watching on TV it didn’t seem like there was a problem.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 2, 2016 at 10:27 AM

      • The establishment has to hold off a Deutsche Bank collapse until after the election.

        The problem facing them is that $47 trillion in derivatives exposure is so much that not even the establishment can be sure if they can delay the inevitable for another five weeks.

        Obviously the establishment had been hoping any economic crisis could be postponed once more until after the election. The problem in the case of Deutsche Bank is that it is paying the price of delaying the inevitable collapse of the European Union for the sake of previous elections. The price has accumulated astronomical interest and the economic gods may no longer have the patience to wait another election cycle to collect. In DB’s case the interest has accumulated to $42 trillion worth of derivatives. That level of insolvency is large enough to ignore any political expediences and bring about a global crisis with a mind and will entirely its own, at a time of its choosing.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 2, 2016 at 11:04 AM

      • I watched very town hall, rally and debate of Trumps on YouTube. He doesn’t have any cold or sniffles. It’s his natural breathing pattern. It’s like the fat guy mouth breather.

        K.l. Asher

        October 2, 2016 at 4:45 PM

  12. “Neither Hillary nor Trump addressed this issue. Both, at least publicly, and probably privately as well …”

    It makes no sense for a politician to bring this up because even if they are aware of the problem, there aren’t any good solutions. But you’re right that within those constraints, Trump’s ideas make more sense. He seems to think of good jobs as kind of a natural resource that needs to be protected for as long as they last. That will at least buy time to figure out something else. Hillary just wants to get everyone on welfare as quickly as possible so they’ll be totally dependent on her.

    Mike Street Station

    September 30, 2016 at 6:23 PM

  13. Despite what the polls say, I really don’t think the debate helped Crooked Hillary. If we look at the LAT poll, Trump has actually gained since the debate.

    Yes, Trump has lost ground in literally every other single poll, but I don’t think the LAT’s results should be dismissed out of hand. The LAT may yet prove to be bullish on Trump, in fact, it probably will, but since it is the same 3000 people every time, it is still useful for tracking purposes. In Hil’s post convention honeymoon period the LAT had Trump down by 4, from his high of being up by 7.

    It is possible, maybe even likely, that polls are picking up on the renewed enthusiasm of Hil voters and despondency of Trump voters in light of Hillary’s debate victory. This also fits with post debate polling data which indicated that Hillary had gained no voters and Trump had lost none.

    I feel good about Trump’s debate performance and think we are in good shape going forward.

    Otis the Sweaty

    September 30, 2016 at 6:41 PM

    • The polls are the result of oversampling Democrats.


      September 30, 2016 at 10:03 PM

  14. more george will bow-tie inside baseball.

    the following explains that trump must run as a revolutionary.


    September 30, 2016 at 7:20 PM

  15. No way. I tried to use two robots recently. One was a key making machine at Lowe’s. The other was coffee machine at Lucky. The first one made a key, but used the wrong key blank. I had to stay on the phone for 15 minutes to get a refund two weeks later in the mail. The second would not accept cash and credit cards I tried. It only accepted a debit card. The coffee was barely warm. The machine is broken ever since. Just forget about self driving cars and other similar nonsense. There is no technology that could support them.

    My Two Cents

    September 30, 2016 at 7:41 PM

    • It will always be like this, just incrementally better. I work with voice recognition. The algorithms are laughably simple. People try to have a conversation with Siri or Cortana, only to quickly find out how dumb they are.

      magenta squirrel

      October 1, 2016 at 5:56 AM

    • How much was the key that you spent 15 minutes getting a refund?


      October 2, 2016 at 5:52 PM

      • $3.00 – I got three dollar bills in the mail.

        My Two Cents

        October 3, 2016 at 2:26 AM

  16. I’m noticing more and more people anecdotally mentioning black associates of theirs claiming that Hillary is “NWO”. Are conspiracy theories about NWO and the Illuminati really that widespread in the black community? If so, why?

    Otis the Sweaty

    October 1, 2016 at 12:01 AM

    • Ah the days of Ogunsiron, Vim, and David Alexander. Maybe one of them can be brought back to chime in.

      Haven’t government conspiracies always been popular in the black community. Especially the one about the CIA spreading crack in their communities. To an extent the one about the Tuskegee excitement does at least provide some president for .gov’s fiddling. Surprised they trust .gov so much, but I guess money trumps all in this world.


      October 1, 2016 at 12:49 AM

    • Yes. NWO is widely referenced in hip hop. I don’t know that much about it but they did an episode on The Cleveland Show satirizing the widespread idea that Jay Z is Illuminati.

      magenta squirrel

      October 1, 2016 at 5:58 AM

    • “Are conspiracy theories about NWO and the Illuminati really that widespread in the black community? ”


      “If so, why?”

      Because the tribal race is a simple race.

      Two in the Bush

      October 1, 2016 at 9:30 AM

    • Who cares? blacks consistently vote Democratic, even if the candidates don’t look promising.


      October 1, 2016 at 9:46 AM

    • I don’t know about the Hillary/NWO thing but I’ve observed that Black people are far more conspiracy minded than Whites (and they’re bad enough!). Maybe it’s the result of being an oppressed people, but they believe all kinds of crazy conspiracy nonsense.

      Mike Street Station

      October 1, 2016 at 11:26 AM

      • A conspiracy whether among a small set of white people or the entire white community is one of the easiest ways to explain away black under performance to other black people. Either we’re equal or superior to white people and they’re keeping us down out of some weird sense of hatred that displays itself in a collective conspiracy to keep blacks down and out of competition, or we’re inferior and broken. Guess which option sells better to the average black person? The irony is that the smarter and even somewhat successful fraction of black people tends to spend the most time developing these theories.

        Even within the Haitian community, there’s a certain sense that the US government is out to harass them specifically for being the first black republic, which explains away Haitian poverty levels and economic performance versus those on other islands. Mind you, this idea is weakly backed in the minds of the supporters of this theory by the nearly two decade occupation of the island in the early 20th century, and the fact that the US ignored the island until the end of slavery in the US.

        David Alexander

        October 1, 2016 at 2:26 PM

      • You idiots…because unlike whites or asians (WULLEZ FOLLOWERS), they’re far more schizo. How can you look at Michael Jackson, most rappers, or most ordinary blacks and their fashion sense and their creative use of language, instruments and clothes, not to see it? (unless youre autistic)

        When was the last time you met a black guy with aspergers?

        In fact full on schizophrenia was once known as the “black mans disease”.

        Once you’ve genetically adapted to KINSHASA you know most human affairs are tribal Struggles of the Will and not university debate panels. There are always enemies out to get your lunch money.

        The Philosopher

        October 1, 2016 at 4:06 PM

      • Ironically this may be one of the factors behind Jewish conspiracies among WN. 😉


        October 2, 2016 at 11:04 AM

    • Because SJWs reinforce an external causation mindset.


      October 1, 2016 at 5:29 PM

  17. I had another vision of Putin while I was in the bathtub singing Lacrimosa.

    He told me that actually there are many problems in the world like environmental degredation, overpopulation, breakdown of law and order, pension fund management and elderly care that go unsolved because we have diverted labour into value transference and value extraction in the West.

    I was amused at the devil. If he is so correct then, why is Russia’s economy doing so badly.

    “Indeed” he replied. Indeed.

    The Philosopher

    October 1, 2016 at 5:41 AM

  18. I’m really disappointed with how tame the Trump campaign has become. He is very misguided if he thinks that being gentlemanly or taking the “high road” is going to work against the Clintons. He should have went right for the jugular at the debate and told Chelsea right to her fact that her dad is a no good rapist. Now he has been put on the defensive about this Miss America misogyny b-shit for two weeks and it is killing him.

    He has to go all out against the Clintons. We need to see ads with Juanita Broaddrick and Paula Jones crying their eyes out. We need to see non-stop accusations of serial sexual abuse and cover-up against both Bill and Hillary. I thought that they hired Stephen Bannon to “take the gloves off” and fight like hell. It isn’t happening. He is being out scandaled by the most scandalous political figure in history and it is downright pitiful.


    October 1, 2016 at 12:03 PM

    • You are dead right

      Two in the Bush

      October 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM

    • What’s with the mopey face? This is the best part. We’re about to see a barrage of truthbombs hurled at the Clinton’s the likes of which American politics have never seen. Buck up already.

      Here’s just the beginning. Man gets on camera to tell America that Bill Clinton is a rapist:

      Andrew E.

      October 1, 2016 at 2:06 PM

    • He’s being completely ungentlemanly with this woman and that’s what’s getting him the negative media attention. Whether it’s helping him win the election I don’t know but I doubt it.

      And I don’t think just talking about how Bill is a jerk is a good idea. Everything has to be brought back to what Hillary did to these women and what it means about her that she has this decade long sham marriage. If you just talk about Bill it makes people feel sympathy for her.


      October 1, 2016 at 5:09 PM

    • This is unhinged. You really think the best way to defeat Hillary Clinton is to accuse her husband of being a rapist?? Craziness.


      October 2, 2016 at 2:58 AM

  19. about 10% of the population of developed countries is indispensable to production…20% of the labor force.

    economics qua academic subject describes the last 200 years…poorly…but…

    it was always ideology, and now it’s an anachronism.

    the economic problems of the developed world have ceased to be economic in the narrow sense. they are now political.

    and europe is at the center again.

    either germans agree to pay taxes for unemployed greeks or the whole thing goes up in flames…again. if europeans can’t “all just get along” there’s absolutely NO hope for the multi-ethnic new world…let alone globalism.

  20. This Star Trek future of abundance is a damn lie, Lion. Hillary wants to bring in a Million Syrians and raise H1-Bs to unlimited. This false song of globalism is squeezing the last penny out of an economy until it dies. Technology is not going to replace innovation. Those dark skinned backwards people who don’t have indoor plumbing and electricity in their homelands are not going to build Starships and a Space Program. During the ridiculous Civil Rights debacle, black preachers were boycotting NASA for not using the money for welfare instead of Apollo Rockets. This isn’t Star Trek, its Cyberpunk. Global Corporations have gated communities, while everyone else lives in a diseased crime ridden ghettos. Look at Freejack. Freejack is the future of America.

    Joshua Sinistar

    October 1, 2016 at 6:18 PM

    • You can’t have a first class country with a third world population.


      October 1, 2016 at 8:20 PM

  21. People keep laughing at Marxists for being “wrong”. If it wasn’t for the Red Scare from Trotsky our kids would still be knitting socks in sweatshops and 20% of you would have asbestos issues. As it is, the plutocrats were so frightened they had to change things and eventually ship out those jobs to the Far East.

    But even then the return on capital is declining, as capital squeezes labour thereby squeezing aggregate demand. Imperialism was the old answer to this issue (i.e slave labour/cheaper commodities)….now the answer is to import foreignors.

    Marx was never wrong. In his analytic framework of mode/means of production and surplus production/extraction, he is 100% correct. His prescription was wrong. Not his framework.

    Even his prescription in a way ended up being right by taking an extreme negotiation position and forcing the owners of the Economist magazine (Rotschild), Koch Brothers and other plutocrats to offer a better life to workers.

    I have summarised 20th century economic history using 19th century analytic concepts. The economics academy today is a socially retarded embarrassment to perhaps our greatest philosopher, Marx.

    The Philosopher

    October 1, 2016 at 6:53 PM

    • Yeah thanks to Marx those sweatshops are now in China and your kids will be eating out of a dumpster. Wise up. Communism is a classic bait and switch. They promise equality for the masses, but its mathematically impossible to make everyone rich. However, making everyone poor is easy peasy when you have the Army on your side and no property rights. Everyone on the Left says that Communism would work if it was done right, but it is being done right. You’re being suckered. Income inequality and egalitarianism are just buzzwords to fool you into not noticing you will have no rights except from the State and that without Private Property you don’t even own your own body. S U C K E R !

      Joshua Sinistar

      October 2, 2016 at 1:17 AM

    • Karl Marx was also a big supporter of free trade


      October 2, 2016 at 1:34 AM

    • Trotsky was promoted by German bankers like Jacob Schiff. Marx was a free trader. The purpose of Marxism was to destroy the middle class and to protect the wealthy. This is because revolutionary movements come from the middle class, never the poor. It is the ambitious, over-educated striver that poses the greatest threat to the rich.

      Why do you think Marx is always talking about the bourgeoisie?

      The key theory of Marxism was to maintain a surplus labor of the unemployed that could always be tapped. What do you think immigration and outsourcing is?

      Charles Dickens and Karl Marx are more or less contemporaries of each other. Their greatest works are filled with a very high degree of contempt for the middle class, mostly because they were victims of petty middle class cruelty. Marx lost two of six children to illness because they were poor, Marx marrying a German noblewoman of title but no money. Dickens’ father was a bad businessman. He landed his entire family in a poorhouse. Basically, Charles Dickens grew up in a debtor’s prison. None of these experiences endeared them to the middle class.


      October 2, 2016 at 1:49 AM

    • People keep laughing at Marxists for being “wrong”.

      and that soviet style socialism was contrary to human nature. e o wilson said, “great idea, wrong species.” the right species would have been ants.

      the same may be said for a post-racial society, world, etc. that is, it’s human nature to want to live and work with people like oneself, just like it’s human nature to be greedy and selfish.

      e.g., the new world, including the US, the utter failure of the euro, the disintegration of the USSR and yugoslavia, etc. etc.

      but no one ever says this. neo-liberals/chicago boys/libertarians never advocate for the nation-state. europe’s anti-immigration parties are far left of the GOP on economic matters. supply side economics is trumped by nationalism/ethnocentrism.

      and so the struggle for racial equality goes on and on and on along with a constant din of propaganda. homo sovieticus meet post-racial homo americanus, etc.

      great idea. wrong species.

      • To all of you.

        As I’ve said, the analytical framework is correct. It diagnoses correctly the inherent paradox of the capitalist system and its inevitable demise (without reform).

        As returns to capital dry up (which they are doing in the past 20 years, even with QE and low i rates), either the Markowitz risk-return frontier has to be expanded and people dump money into comic book collectibles and evered brazilian teak unit trusts in their portfolios, more slave labour is needed or the environment gets thrashed.

        It is not sustainable. Open borders is more the consequence of “capitalism”…not “socialism”.

        Progressive taxation, antitust, inheritance taxes, public schooling, bans on inhumane labour practices, allowing collective bargaining and so on would never have happened without the marxist threat. they allowed capitalism to survive in another paradox. Because they rejuvenated agg demand.

        Americans have been so brainwashed they don’t realise their Extractors would lie to their children and sooner throw them into a fake war with a fake enemy in the desert than give them a pay rise even if they produce 3 times more.

        Can’t you see? Fear, revolution and violence drives progress…not rule following.

        Ask the Boston Tea Party men.

        Marx’s prescription of complete egalitarianism is not in keeping with human nature and how our welfare is derived relatively and not absolutely. Agreed.

        As far as I know he was also pushing Blank Slate stuff long before the Frankfurt mafia.

        The Philosopher

        October 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM

      • Philosopher,

        Returns to capital increase with greater productivity, where output per unit of input increases. Why is Marxism correct when it assumes returns to capital simply dry up? When does this actually happen?

        Marxism was the first step to the acceptance of accumulated parasitism within capitalist systems. Why? Because everyone wants to live off of someone else. Marxism enabled that and has been slowly destroying the West for last 150 years.


        October 3, 2016 at 1:40 AM

      • Productivity is a output (income) per unit of labour. While tech increases, income doesnt because its being politically repressed.

        That is why the average east asian with a higher iq, working twice as long and twice as intensely as most european countries has half the median real income.

        I saw a recent academic paper noting the productivity puzzle is solved when seeing it as a derivative of income. It makes sense.

        The Philosopher

        October 3, 2016 at 2:00 PM

    • European social democracy works OK as long as your population’s homogeneous enough.

      I can’t think of anyone who was never wrong. Einstein was wrong about quantum mechanics. Newton was wrong about physics, though only at scales he had no way of measuring. We respect great thinkers of the past because they represented an advance over what existed previously, not because they are infallible.


      October 2, 2016 at 11:06 AM

  22. Robert Reich, a leftist, has addressed this very issue – he estimates 46% of American jobs could disappear in the next 20 years, mostly lower skill jobs such as truck driving, retail, and even health care (because robots and computers will be able to do a lot of diagnosis and even basic procedures). His solution is a guaranteed minimum income based on taxing the owners of the wealth producing machines. Maybe that would work in a country with a stable population, but in an economy with growing population of low skilled immigrants that sounds like a disaster, and basically means that every new immigrant is just taking a slice of a fairly fixed pie.

    Peter Akuleyev

    October 2, 2016 at 6:59 AM

    • Self driving cars are a… A MYTH, A FANTASY, NEVER GONNA HAPPEN… well at least it won’t happen until the first human like AI is born. The trouble with driving is the amount of signal processing and decision making that has to occur. Once you’ve reverse engineered a self driving car’s intelligence you’re either not very far or already at an 85-100 IQ machine. This could conceivably be enough to pass a Turring test.

      We are probably at least 50 years away from the computing power to do this, if not longer. If it were to happen next year all our wealth problems would be irrelevant, since food would go down in price to near 0 (cost of labor thanks to robot AI laborers with 85-100 IQ, but no emotions) along with all other items. Likewise humans could all be rich as each person could own robot slaves to wait on them hand and foot (Rosie from the Jetsons). As long as the robots are programmed not to rebel things should be just fine…

      What will actually happen: One human decides he can make the robots go to war and collect a haram of women. World War Z begins.


      October 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM

      • Yeah, birds and insects have IQs of 85-100, too. And no, they crash into glass, lights and wires because of sensory issues.


        October 2, 2016 at 2:21 PM

      • We need self-driving cars now because all those fucking Baby Boomers and their healthy lifestyle bullshit are too fucking old to see and function well enough to drive. Without self-driving cars, grandpa is gonna park his car in your living room. Why can’t you assholes smoke and drink and enjoy life? Do you really want to be so old you can’t feel anything and have to wear diapers again? I don’t know about you, but every time I see one of those old fogeys on the Today Show “celebrating” his 100th birthday in a wheelchair without the ability to see, hear or make love to a woman, I want to eat bacon and smoke.

        Joshua Sinistar

        October 2, 2016 at 5:41 PM

      • Lol, it’d be easy to let this devolve into snark, but in all seriousness, you can’t compare animals to
        Human invented self driving cars. We don’t even have the power to synthesize basic life forms for the record. Insects have a low survival rate that wouldn’t be acceptable to humans (especially today’s risk averse breed of human) so it’s not a tenable comparison..


        October 2, 2016 at 10:53 PM

  23. Trump back ahead in the latest UPI poll. I really just don’t think the debate hurt him.

    Trump needs to ignore all the overreacting homos and just do more of the same in the next debate, mixed in with more attacks on Hillary’s open borders positions.

    Otis the Sweaty

    October 2, 2016 at 12:42 PM

    • This week’s polls suggest the debate was kind of a wash with no decisive shift in the position of the candidates.

      Agree that Trump can win if he just makes the whole debate about Hillary as he did in the first 40 minutes of Debate #1.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 2, 2016 at 7:25 PM

  24. I think population growth (mostly of less capable people) and the rot caused by HBD-denial and feminism may prevent the surplus-world from coming about. We are becoming less competent. Think about the $12 Billion aircraft carrier that doesn’t work.

    Rogal Dorn

    October 2, 2016 at 8:45 PM

  25. Lion, OT but something weird happened and it was hardly covered.

    Do you remember the two guys that were caught on security cameras in the vicinity of the Chelsea bomb? They just happened to be Egypt Air pilots. They just happened to be in the area. They removed the pressure cooker. They took off with the luggage. And they just happened to leave the country.

    Only Frontpagemag (where I found out about it) and a right-wing blogger have picked this up. Nowhere else. Total silence.

    WTF? Every day I see confirmation that our society is totally and completely comatose.


    October 2, 2016 at 9:07 PM

    • I didn’t hear about it and wouldn’t have absent Lion and you mentioning it.


      October 3, 2016 at 12:56 AM

  26. Hillary and her debate podium

    Did Hillary Clinton have a teleprompter embedded into her podium at the first presidential debate of 2016? Many people believe that she did and the images are certainly strange. What do you think? The commission acknowledged the mic for Trump was bad. Maybe that problem was also tied to his podium light.


    October 3, 2016 at 1:27 AM

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