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The new Wikileaks emails are getting second fiddle—a very distant second fiddle—in the mainstream media which is a lot more excited about the Trump tape. And if something isn’t in the mainstream media, then as far as undecided voters are concerned, it didn’t happen.

Republicans who say Trump should resign because of this are disgusting traitors. Did a single Democrat say that Bill Clinton should resign because of his much worse behavior?

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Some commenters are excited because John Podesta received three emails from some alt-right person who had his email address, but that doesn’t mean that Podesta wanted those emails, knew who the guy was, or believed a single thing in them.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

October 8, 2016 at 1:15 pm

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  1. “Republicans who say Trump should resign because of this are disgusting traitors.”

    NeverTrump RINOs fall into two categories — libertarian trash and religious wackos. They think if Trump wins it will be the end of their agenda. So they’d rather that he lose. They’re not just abstaining from support. They’re trying to sabotage him. They’re putting their personal feelings above the national interest. That’s the same thing the liberals do and I hold them both in contempt. They are indeed traitors.


    October 8, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    • Stupid fools. Don’t they realize that conservatives will not win at the Supreme Court *ever again*?


      October 8, 2016 at 2:21 pm

      • The individual right to keep and bear arms will be history if Hillary wins.

        Two in the Bush

        October 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      • Actually, I don’t see any sweeping changes to the 2nd amendment. Obama tried several times and failed, and the GOP is likely to keep at least one house. I don’t know how much she can do with executive orders, and nobody wants to actually go prying guns from people’s cold dead hands.


        October 9, 2016 at 8:24 am

    • There’s also the neocon traitors, the kind who like Evan McMullin, who are angry at Trump because he wants to deescalate tensions with Russia and not bomb the Assad regime. They’re especially awful. I really do hope they gather around Hillary and become the Democrats’ pro-war faction.

      I think there are some NeverTrumpers who disdain Trump’s vulgar personality and his lack of experience, such as Charles Murray. To be perfectly honest, they have a point that Trump really isn’t great presidential material. The problem is that most politicians tend to avoid nativism, nationalism and non-interventionism, because there are so many vested, entrenched interests that make a political career staking out those positions to be career suicide. As such, we’re stuck with second rate leaders like Sarah Palin, Ron Paul and Donald Trump.

      People here generally speak well of Greg Abbott. If Trump loses, perhaps the best we can do is try to purge the cucks like Paul Ryan in 2018, and then see if Abbott is worth coalescing around.


      October 8, 2016 at 2:32 pm

      • 1. charles murray has a low IQ.

        2. because there are so many vested, entrenched interests

        it’s more than that. a person who thought as trump does would never make it through the educational screening in the US. he would have been discriminated against.

        this selection for pushy sociopaths would be eliminated overnight if all that mattered was cumulative exams/standardized tests.

        hillary, not trump, is the epitome of how the US and UK has been ruined over the last 40 years by strivers.

    • NeverTrump already tried this during the primary and failed.

      They are just wasting their energy at this point. Trump should dismiss these Republicans by saying he is the choice of the Republican primary voter and they are still trying to overturn the will the of the people after the primary voters rejected their ideas.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      October 8, 2016 at 2:36 pm


      ME: F U

    • Come on. Trump made those comments back in 2005 when he was still a democrat.

      not too late

      October 8, 2016 at 4:10 pm

  2. One on one pro beats amateur-that’s the norm.


    October 8, 2016 at 1:26 pm

  3. Republicans who say Trump should resign because of this are disgusting traitors.

    Whoa. Righteous anger from Lion. Very nice.

    Andrew E.

    October 8, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    • Now he just needs to call them cucks.


      October 8, 2016 at 8:32 pm

      • “. Everyone knows Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have both had extramarital affairs like many previous US Presidents.”

        STFU. Cite facts or STFU. What Clinton did wasn’t extramarital affairs. He was a serial abuser of women, and in Broaddrick’s case a rapist. Yes, I believe Broaddrick.


        October 9, 2016 at 10:23 am

  4. I’d be surprised if Podesta even read those emails. They’re really long. Busy guys like Podesta who get tons of email every day don’t read long emails that look like political screeds.


    October 8, 2016 at 1:31 pm

  5. “Did a single Democrat say that Bill Clinton should resign…?”

    Wasn’t it widely reported that Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) wanted Bill Clinton to resign? When I tried to verify that, I found the opposite: Lieberman said it would be “unwise” for Clinton to resign, even though his behavior was “immoral.” On the two impeachment charges, every Democrat in the Senate and a handful of Republicans voted “not guilty.”

    Mark Caplan

    October 8, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    • I think Russ Feingold said Clinton should resign but he did vote note guilty on impeachment.


      October 8, 2016 at 5:36 pm

    • Many men and women have extramarital affairs. Everyone knows Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have both had extramarital affairs like many previous US Presidents.

      What people, especially women, find so offensive about this tape is that Trump is bragging that he can grope women and attempt to physically force himself on them with impunity because he’s a star.

      Jill Harth sued Trump in 1997 for behavior that sounds very similar to what Trump was bragging about in this video. (Jill Harth had put this behind her and actually supported Trump until his campaign started calling her a liar.


      October 8, 2016 at 6:25 pm

  6. 1. Paul Ryan needs the Eric Cantor treatment. It’s too late this year, but next time he needs to lose his job.

    2. I initially thought that Podesta sent out the email about immigration, but I misidentified who the sender was.

    That makes A LOT more sense. I always thought that leftists were True Believers about immigration and The Great Replacement. If they actually believed in HBD, they would espouse the proper rhetoric in public, but they wouldn’t push for millions of Hispanics, Africans and Muslims to flood America and Europe.


    October 8, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    • Paul Ryan won by 70 points. Rubio by 60.

      Meanwhile Trump is in danger in Utah and Georgia…. Trumpism will be dead very soon

      Lion of the Turambar

      October 8, 2016 at 2:33 pm

      • Oh, if the Republicans cause Trump to lose by their White Knighting against him, they’re not going to be regarded well by Republican voters once Hillary’s Supreme Court comes into play.

        Paul Ryan might keep his Congressional seat, but expect grueling primaries in 2018. If there are enough nationalists, don’t be shocked if Paul Ryan steps down from intra-party fighting.


        October 8, 2016 at 5:22 pm

      • fivethirtyeight says Trump has a 97.4% chance of winning Utah with only a 18.4% chance of winning the presidency.

        Trumpism will certainly be dead if the only Trumpist politician is Trump.


        October 8, 2016 at 8:08 pm

      • There is 0 chance Trump loses either of those states. *IF* Trump loses in November, and I don’t think he will, he will run again in win in 2020.

        Trumpism will not die, but the TruCons, however, will be utterly exterminated.

        Otis the Sweaty

        October 9, 2016 at 12:38 am

      • If things get seriously bad for Ryan in the R party he’ll just run as a D. Of course it’ll take a lot more people waking up for the R party to actually swing the entire voting base to some semblance of sanity.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        October 9, 2016 at 12:40 am

    • I kind of like Paul Ryan. It’s a shame he is such an irredeemable cuck.

      Two in the Bush

      October 8, 2016 at 2:50 pm

      • There are a lot of good kind Americans of all stripes and political affiliations. I imagine this is how the Torries and the Whigs felt about each other in the nascent United States even though now their differences seem rather trivial to us, unless your name is Mencius Moldbug. Ryan may feel he is somehow justified in betraying Trump, but as another poster on another forum put it, this is civil war and in civil war you have to choose. Neighbors become enemies, brothers kill each other. War is hell.

        It’s a shame, it’s come to this, that there is so much rot in the republic. Harken back to the halcyon days of 1960s California, when the dawn of free love promised to free us of our repressed sexual bondage and technology promised us a better more technocratic tomorrow.

        Someone else here said it right.. we are entering the cyber punk dystopia branch of futurism, not the senescence fueled utopia we dreamed of.

        At least it’s fodder for sociology textbooks.


        October 8, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  7. Most Republicans are total idiots. Trump is first Republican i will vote for and I only voted for 1 Democrat.

    I would have voted for Reagan but didn’t vote in 84.

    Immigration and trade wouldn’t even be an issue without Trump.


    October 8, 2016 at 2:10 pm

  8. The old 2005 video of Trump’s braggadocio about groping women, is probably what lead the GOP to condemn him, and call for his resignation.


    October 8, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    • Now, now, now, will Ted the Creepy Cruz rescind his support for Trump after his lewd comments about fondling women?


      October 8, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    • Listen, there was no crime commited, no women had complained, this behaviour is part of that scene and should be completly ignored. Anyone who thought that Trump was anything different is stupidly naive. I’m not an alpha, and I hate all this alpha sexual behaviour, but in the context of contrmporary American culture Trump is fine.

      Without religion and exposed to contemporary culture a man is an animal. This is descend of Man. Trump is our animal and I support him and he is gonna win this.


      October 8, 2016 at 9:53 pm

      • “This is descend of Man.”

        This is why Yakov should get his own blog. This is why I read this blog. To read Yakovisms.


        October 9, 2016 at 10:25 am

      • “Without religion and exposed to contemporary culture a man is an animal. This is descend of Man. Trump is our animal and I support him and he is gonna win this.” This is a wise and beautiful observation, Yakov.


        October 9, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      • First of all, Yakov, you are definitely an Alpha. Anyone who runs his own business and hires people, let alone does it with complicated equipment like HVAC, is Alpha, even if all your girlfriends look like Phyllis Diller. But you are Omega on one thing, I.e. misuse of “jive,” insisting on following the crowd in its error. No, I’m not letting this go. Also, Trump has no chance. But you’re Alpha for supporting him.


        October 9, 2016 at 1:48 pm

  9. The media has for decades and decades been saying that personal lives don’t matter, but now they want it to matter for Trump.

    Most people know about JFK”s , Clinton’s and Johnson’s behavior while actually in the White House

    Pierrie Salinger was on c-span in the 90’s talking about how affairs etc shouldn’t matter. What we want is someone who can do what we want.

    This is classic. It starts right at the beginning about all of his affairs.He even says JFK even encouraged him to have a mistress.

    I don’t think Trumps’s tape will hurt that much.


    October 8, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    • it couldn’t hurt at all if women had never been given the vote.

      • “It couldn’t hurt at all if women had never been given the vote.”

        Whilst that logically makes sense, I think in practice the reverse is true. In Western societies when women didn’t have the vote men took a paternalistic attitude towards the protection of women precisely because they knew that women lacked poltical and economic power and needed guarding against the predations of men. But if society gives women the vote and views them as social equals then such attitudes are seen as dated and patronising. By and large as women’s political equality has grown their status as actual women has greatly diminished. I suppose that seems paradoxical but of course makes sense from a traditionalist perspective, because men primarily respected women as wives and mothers which now are seen as being of little value.

        When pundits talk about ‘attracting the woman vote’ they always do so now in terms of equal pay, glass ceilings, etc. Appealing to women is done in terms of men being the enemy, which the State needs to neutralise so as to enforce equality. I imagine that when women first got the vote the thought was that the ‘woman vote’ would be around children and the family, whereas of course these are only women’s issues now insofar as how the State can look after their children so they can compete with men for jobs.

        Perhaps this is something in the nature of democracy; if there is a large group of potential voters that form a natural block (like women), it is easiest to motivate people on a ‘them and us’ basis by convincing them that they need protecting from their enemy, which in this case would have to be men. Men on the other hand are strongly conditioned to see competing with women as being beneath them and anti-social. It’s all very disruptive to the harmony of society. Women and men are no longer seen as being a unit who complement each other, rather (white) men are the natural enemy and oppressors of women.

        prolier than thou

        October 9, 2016 at 3:40 pm

  10. in the mainstream media which is a lot more excited about the Trump tape.

    I don’t see what difference the tape makes.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    October 8, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    • GOP that said they supported trump will now openly undermine him to help Hillary. Ralph Nader was right. America is a one-party state.

      • this is why trump supporters include the 1% in IQ.

        you shall know them by their enemies.

      • Lamentably, most ultra-brainiacs are anti-Trumpists. The guy’s a populist, he appeals to the lower classes, who tend (on average) to be less bright. Doesn’t make him wrong–things like immigration tend to hit the poorly educated harder. The upper and upper middle classes get cheap maids and more ethnic food.


        October 9, 2016 at 8:32 am

      • GOP that said they supported trump will now openly undermine him to help Hillary.

        They already rejected him during the primary. That establishment Republicans such as them oppose Trump was already known to voters months ago. In fact, some of the Republican officials who rejected him like Mike Lee were ones whom I didn’t know had switched from total primary opposition to an endorsement, and now back again to oppose.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 9, 2016 at 12:42 pm

      • this is why trump supporters include the 1% in IQ.


        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 9, 2016 at 12:42 pm

      • “Ralph Nader was right. America is a one-party state.”

        George Wallace said the same thing in 1968: “There’s not one dime’s worth of difference in the two parties.”

        Lewis Medlock

        October 10, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    • It’s gotten a few prominent GOP politicians to disavow him. I doubt it matters for the election.

      If he loses (as seems increasingly likely) it might wind up giving the anti-Trump faction strength in the ensuing GOP civil war, though. If Trump loses by a hair, his philosophy (such as it is) is viable with a few tweaks. If he loses by a landslide, it’s objectively obvious the Trumpist turn was a bad idea and the anti-Trump faction has much more strength to purge anyone against open borders, etc. (And, of course, they can blame the Jews.)

      Do nationalism and immigration restriction become bad ideas because Trump couldn’t keep his mouth shut a decade ago? No, but that’s how it will look.


      October 9, 2016 at 8:30 am

  11. “Republicans who say Trump should resign because of this are disgusting traitors.”

    Of course we arent. This isnt a personality cult like the democrats run. We owe no allegiance to *him*. He is auditioning to be a public servant. If *he* had any loyalty to the Republican party or to the voters he would withdraw in favor any of the other 20 people who would win the race easily.

    This is the type of thing I assumed he was up to. But I dont see how anyone can watch Hillary pulling this attack with a straight face when this- and 50 times worse- is exactly what her husband was doing.

    Lion of the Turambar

    October 8, 2016 at 2:39 pm

  12. Demoncrats aren’t asking for Trump’s resignation, because they want to get a rush of euphoria, when he has no chance with Clinton in November.


    October 8, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    • Cmon. Trump should carry on what he is doing all campaign and change nothing. Only then will we know where the country stands. I am hillary supporter but I will still take Trump overy Cruz, Rubio or even Bernie.


      October 8, 2016 at 8:54 pm

      • I don’t support anyone, including Trump. Meriprolestan is no longer and getting worse. It’s now heading towards a Dark Ages Stan. The election of Ms. Willie officiates the end of America as we know it.

        Machiavelli would tell you to let a corrupt nation run its course like a decaying tooth that rots to the core and no longer. Or else, it’s guns n rifles for expedience, but I wouldn’t expect it.

        What’s the likelihood that chaos will ensue, if Trump loses in November?


        October 9, 2016 at 12:20 am

  13. Why didn’t Podesta spam the Dutch HBD believer’s emails? We need to know who this guy is. We probably never will.


    October 8, 2016 at 2:56 pm

  14. As for the question, yes! Russ Feingold. I think that’s it.


    October 8, 2016 at 3:27 pm

  15. If Republican elites are really genuine in their puritanical outrgage over Trump you have to wonder where they have been given the social changes that have run amok in America over the last forty years. They’ve left it a little late in the day to suddenly start defending the sanctity of marriage and sexual chastity, and they’ve picked the wrong target now that they’ve started. For all his faults Donald Trump has never actively sought to subvert traditional morality, he just hasn’t lived up to it. So where is their moral outrage and condemnation of those who have actively sought (and succeeded) to turn American morality on its head?

    It seems to me that they more frightened they are to name their real enemies, the more frenzied they are in attacking those on their own side who stray beyond the bounds of acceptable liberal discourse.

    prolier than thou

    October 8, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    • For all his faults Donald Trump has never actively sought to subvert traditional morality, he just hasn’t lived up to it.

      This is a very interesting point, one that deserves wider traction, but of course won’t get it on a mainstream level. It reminds me of Charlton’s (true) argument that exhorting others to do evil is actually much worse than doing evil oneself.

      As for the tape and the comments – they’re bad. If you read a transcript, this isn’t mild stuff; it’s grotesque. But not only is it not really relevant in comparison to Trump’s important policy positions – I actually believe that in contrast to many or most politicians, Trump is capable of change. I could see him as a future Christian king of the Americas!

      Samson J.

      October 8, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    • Having said all that, it’s hard to see how this wouldn’t hurt, a little bit, at the margins. I’m an everyday run-of-the-mill evangelical, and it does feel like a boot in the face to think that this is what I’ve been supporting.

      Samson J.

      October 8, 2016 at 5:34 pm

      • Of course it’s going to hurt. Think of it this way: it’s an advertising jingle for the other side. That’s how advertising works. When you want to sell a product you don’t get up and read facts – you come up with a catchy slogan. “Grab ’em by the pussy” is the slogan that a lot of people will respond to by pulling the lever for Hillary, or a 3d/4th party candidate.

        I read a genuine alt-right site which unfortunately I can’t link to here (and do not link no longer works, sigh) and he went through the checklist of how terrible Hillary is. All true. But if you have to remind yourself of a checklist of why Hillary is terrible, then what does that say about your guy? A lot of people will just say, “I cannot stand to have ‘that man’ in the White House.”


        October 9, 2016 at 10:30 am

    • 1. cutting your dick off and pretending to be a woman and rectal intercourse are normal.

      2. trump’s comments are unacceptable.

      it’s the end of civilization.

    • This is a preposterous thing to say. Trump has spent decades being part of the American entertainment industrial complex which has done nothing but degrade the culture and morals of this country. What was The Apprentice? High art? What was he doing when he was telling female contestants that he he’d like to see them on their knees?

      If Trump was the Democratic candidate imagine how different everybody’s rhetoric would be. The right would be howling about how he represented the very nadir of where Hollywood has been leading us for decades.

      Fire justice

      October 9, 2016 at 7:47 am

  16. The GOPe is going full Dolchstoss on Trump.


    October 8, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    • gothamette

      October 8, 2016 at 5:44 pm

      • Yeah, I’m checking the MSM and it’s pretty brutal. @MTracey who is a somewhat sympathetic Berner, says Trump is “toast.”


        October 8, 2016 at 6:19 pm

      • Trump should flip GOP the bird and stay in the race.


        October 9, 2016 at 5:54 am

    • It’s a huge mess. Even if Trump lost, going down with his ship loyally would have allowed Republican leaders free reign to opportunistically integrate “Trumpist” rhetoric into their platforms and create some sort of winning synthesis in the future. That could be much harder to do now, which means there’ll be more painful insurgencies instead, because these people are not popular:


      October 9, 2016 at 7:02 am

      • Where there’s life there’s hope. Perhaps if/when Trump destroys the Republican party, the disaffected remains of the Sanders insurgency (they are still around, and still in a rage) can find common ground on immigration and trade and economic equity, and form a new party. The only people who would be angry about this would be the racists & anti-Semites on the alt-right, and that would be fine with me.

        In fact, it would be a lot like the old, pre-transgender Democratic party, or the old Labour party.


        October 9, 2016 at 10:37 am

  17. The new Wikileaks emails are getting second fiddle—a very distant second fiddle—in the mainstream media which is a lot more excited about the Trump tape.

    in the emails hillary says she wants a pan-american union with open trade, and open borders. but trump is hetero so whatever.

    the gop deserves to die. when the left comes for church’s tax-exempt status i’ll laugh. 2nd amendment guys? take their guns hillary!!! and i’m looking forward to blm burning down salt lake city.

    you don’t back me, i don’t back you

  18. Isn’t Billy Bush, the interviewer on the pussy tape’ a nephew of former President George HW Bush? Could the Jeb Bush family want revenge?


    October 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm

  19. Does someone want to look back and see how many of these pearl clutching Republicans honored “the Lion Of the Senate, Ted Kennedy? He had an actual body count and his behavior even after that was beyond despicable.


    October 8, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    • I just watched the video. It’s not as bad as I thought it would be really. Who is surprised by this? Billy Bush laughed with him.

      Trump’s behavior is no worse than many presidents. Everybody knows Trump is like.

      Why not bring up MLK”s womanizing?

      As I said in my post above JFK wanted Salinger to have a mistress.

      That Pierre Salinger interview must be shown to the public by somebody.

      He was banging an actor’s wife every night during the “68 California primary.

      He has a speech that he reads that he would have read if he decided to run for president.


      October 8, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    • Right, the hypocrisy on display here is astounding, maddening; republicans, democrats, the media, I’d say this is a jump the shark moment, but come on, it aint. That said, there is a point here, I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms and I’ve heard a lot of middle aged men blather on and it’s all putting the p* on the pedestal type stuff really but I’ve never heard a guy go on about actually making a play for a married woman.

      Trump has really failed here, he knows his past, he should have addressed this himself, brought it up on his own terms and defused it months ago. I keep hearing how he’s a master persuader and a brilliant businessman but more and more he’s coming off like all my second rate agents, all they know about persuasion is being a pain in the ass until the customer (mark to them) gives in. More and more his “alpha” status seems to be more a result of being over 6 feet tall than anything else.

      I would suspect a lot of people are like me in that we’ve been defending the guy, “yes he’s a short fingered vulgarian, but look at his kids (except for the big game hunting)…, he’s got good relations with his exes….he’s never raped anyone…he’s not banging other guy’s wives…” Now this nonsense.

      I support him, I will vote for him, that’s not changing, but the wind is really out of my sails at this moment and my beliefs are that his core ideas: immigration and trade are of an existential nature for this country. If he flames out they are dead for my lifetime, and this country, what’s left of it really does go on a death watch.

      He can fix this, assuming he can pull his head out of his ass, but he will have to do such a job that whatever is coming down the pike, and he should know what it is, is completely nullified.

      Regardless, the Republican party is dead to me, I’ll never vote for them again as stands.
      I’ll be like those angry old hippies ranting about how they’re all the same, I’ll have to get a tie die shirt I guess, I really, really hate this.

      2 Minute Alpha

      October 8, 2016 at 11:04 pm

      • Makes sense. Even on a simplistic left-right-axis model if you’re far out on one end the two mainstream parties start to look close together. There’s also a globalist-populist axis, of course, and doing that in math is left as an exercise for the reader.

        That said I agree with what you’re saying, except that I have my doubts the country’s dead. They’ll probably have to tweak their ideology to avoid annoying the more conservative Latinos. Focus on legal vs illegal, etc.


        October 9, 2016 at 8:37 am

      • ” If he flames out they are dead for my lifetime, and this country, what’s left of it really does go on a death watch.”

        Someone on twitter said that a vote for Hillary is an extinction level event for the old Republic. I had to laugh at that because it’s a great phrase but also, the event already happened. It was called the second Obama administration. Think of all the things that happened in it: gay marriage legalized and the WH bathed in the colors of the rainbow flag, a transgenderified and feminized military, transgenders in the public schools, and above all, the ever present threat, sometimes deployed, of black racial rebellion coming straight from the White House, destroying all faith in the authority of law enforcement.

        This is not an extinction level event? What Trump was saying, even if he wasn’t aware of it, was that he was going to re-establish legitimate authority in the White House. I really think that’s dead now. Let’s say by some miracle he’s elected. His own party hates him. How is he going to get anything done?


        October 9, 2016 at 10:44 am

      • I only just learned that the other guy on the tape is Billy Bush. Did GOPe release this tape?


        October 9, 2016 at 11:24 am

      • @IHTG,
        Oh god, Heartiste. Such a blabbermouth. Look: all I know is when I realized the other guy was Billy Bush, I immediately thought the obvious. This is a Bush Crime Family trap. And they are very chummy w/the Clintons. Dammit, I can’t remember right now but there was another piece of malarky with Neil Bush, very similar to this. I’ll have to look it up.


        October 9, 2016 at 4:14 pm

  20. Wtf is an undecided voter? Who in the right mind is still undecided at this point? Broken process.


    October 8, 2016 at 7:09 pm

    • I am an undecided voter according to a survey I took. Pollsters have no right to know my views, but if they’re willing to pay me money to answer a few questions then I’ll gladly do so.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      October 9, 2016 at 1:10 am

  21. The fact that Hillary said her dream is open borders should be a bombshell. Even if the media won’t talk about it, Trump should angrily bring it up at the debate and point out that she is at best indifferent to the interests of American citizens.

    It has been crazy all along that her lie about the youtube video causing the Benghazi attack hasn’t disqualified her. She attacked a private citizen and spat on our tradition of free speech in order to push a narrative that she knew was false. That was her response to a planned attack on our people and the murder of our ambassador. It’s treasonous. She knowingly harmed America’s interests for the sake of liberal propaganda.

    Rogal Dorn

    October 8, 2016 at 8:02 pm

  22. Trump went from Hitler to ‘unfit’. That was good. But then he went from ‘unfit’ to “sexual assailant” and thats really bad taking in count he’s running against a women in the most gender-biased election ever. He’s lucky his opponent is someone as horrible as Hillary Clinton, otherwise the election would be over. HRC haven’t done better: besides of being crooked she’s unhealthy and sooner she’ll be the partner-in-crime of a known rapist. Americans will decide between an old sexual assailant man who likes groping women in order to grab them by their pussies or an unhealthy crooked woman accomplice of the -who knows how many- rape cases perpetrated by his pervert husband.

    You’re doing good America.


    October 8, 2016 at 8:59 pm

  23. The part of the latest Wikileaks dump that everyone is excited about is a memo attached to one of the emails written by someone named Tony Carrk. Apparently he was given the job of reading all of Hillary Clinton’s private speeches to see if he could find anything embarrassing. He came up with dozen or so things and attached the kind of headline he could imagine Hillary haters attaching to the quote. This Carrk guy sure has a vivid imagination. The text of Hillary’s speeches just don’t say what the headlines do.

    Now in the past that has not stopped Republicans. Al Gore said he co-sponsored the DARP legislation that funded the development of the internet, which was true. Republicans used that speech to say Al Gore claimed he invented the internet.

    So now Republicans have some Hillary quotes and recommendation on how to lie them from Wikileaks. Go to it.


    October 8, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    • Mikeca,

      I don’t understand. You think open borders, mass immigration and offshore outsourcing are not something Democrats believe and are committed to? You think Hillary’s positions are just made up by Republicans combing through speeches?


      October 9, 2016 at 1:08 am

  24. Trump is disappointing. Here, he did nothing wrong. A private conversation of his was made public by an unscrupulous network. It’s his private life and is nobody’s business. Why he needs to apologize? I’m not an alpha, but this is very whimpy.

    Think, Miss Universe contest is a slut fest where all these girls are trying to sell themselves to the highest bidder. Obviously Trump is there to get some tail. Who ever thought otherwise? I think that’s contests are despicable, but if it’s your thing, why apologize? He hasn’t changed an iota. Apology is phony an pathetic. This tape is should’ve been treated as a nonevent. Trump can win, but this wasn’t the best way to handle it.


    October 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm

  25. Spin and fume all you want, Lion, but the fact is that Donald Trump talks like a rapist and is unfit to be president.


    October 8, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    • Bill Clinton IS a rapist, yet no one in the MSM thinks he was unfit to be president.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2016 at 12:09 am

      • Lion, you’re a smart guy who can make good, sound inferences based on evidence you see. Based on what you’ve read, heard and seen regarding Trump’s behavior, how likely is it that he has raped someone? And when I say ‘rape’, I mean the contemporary definition, where it could be anything from having sex without someone’s full and explicit consent to, as Patrice O’Neal put it, “rapity-rape-rape”. From Trump’s lewd comments combined with the totality of stuff that has come out over the years about his obsession with beautiful women, surely it’s likely he has raped someone before, right? I know there have been no official allegations, but that certainly doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. He’s, after all, a very powerful and exceedingly litigious guy, so one could argue that the absence of serious rape allegations against him is not a compellingly strong proof that he hasn’t raped before. Given everything we know about him, I think he has, at the very least, had sex that was less than consensual, and likely outside the confines of his marriages. We may not have very clear or explicit proof of it but the evidence is overwhelming to anyone who is objective enough to put 2 and 2 together.


        October 9, 2016 at 11:05 am

      • Given how hated he is, if there were any real rapes someone would have come out with it.

        I think he has had sexual conquests, with women who were willing, that most betas can only dream about. It’s too bad that we can’t have a candidate with Mitt Romney’s demeanor and Trump’s views on immigration and Black Lives Matter and global warming.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 9, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      • Even if Trump raped dozens in a caveman definition of the word, Democrats and Republicans raped the whole country for 50 years. Trump is still the only hope. I mean, Gingis Kahn has like 12,000,000 people that carry his DNA, but there is a huge statue of him in Ulan-Baatar and he is a national hero and the father of the nation. If Trump wins and implements his program, his indiscretions will be forgotten by history. You got to approach these thing with common sense. He is our Gingis Khan and whoever runs away from the battlefield should be decapitated. You don’t surrender to the enemy because your king is a rapist, you fight on for your survival. Trump is irreplaceable.


        October 9, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    • “Given how hated he is, if there were any real rapes someone would have come out with it.”

      Don’t know what you mean by ‘real rapes’ but Jill Harth has come out recently with allegations against Trump. She filed a lawsuit against him in 1997, though it could have just been an underhanded business strategy, she and her husbands where business partners with him. It’s hard to believe a guy like Trump would bother about a woman consenting or not. There is something about his personality that tells you he couldn’t give less of a fuck about that. I say it’s impossible that every single encounter he’s had with a woman has been 100% consensual. Your bias is very revealing


      October 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm

  26. Guess who made this tape? Billy Bush, cousin of George W. Bush. Its a scam man. Its one party with two different wings. Its as fake as Pro Wrestling. Right on cue, that cuck Ryan disinvites Trump. Same guy that gave Obama all the money he needs til he leaves office, first day he’s speaker.
    Did you see W’s daughter at the donor party for Hillary with Huma? This ain’t a government, its a criminal whorehouse selling you all out. Its pay for play. Its a whorehouse. They’re all bought and sold. Trump is being opposed by both wings of the same Uniparty of corporate whores.

    Joshua Sinistar

    October 9, 2016 at 1:23 am

  27. People thought that Arnold Schwarzenegger would be sunk by all the allegations of actual groping that came out before the 2003 recall election. It didn’t pan out that way.


    October 9, 2016 at 2:01 am

  28. The only effect of this video I suspect will be to polarise support amongst the candidates. Not shift it much either way. The only question is how this video will play to independents/moderates, and I suspect that group is less amenable to SJW identity politics than the already Hillary voting left is.


    October 9, 2016 at 2:44 am

    • Thing is (from what I can tell) swing voters this time around tend to be college-educated whites, and the whole competence/temperament issue tends to be more important to them. He has to look presidential, for starters, but even so he has to actually know about policy and have detailed plans. The gag on South Park is that he (well, his stand-in Mr. Garrison) has no clue what he is doing.


      October 9, 2016 at 8:40 am

  29. Haha. I cannot wait until trump goes all in now. Hes been holding back…let truml be trump. The debate should be awesome.

    The Philosopher

    October 9, 2016 at 4:34 am

  30. i dont doubt that bill clinton is probably a rapist, but what’s the evidence for it?

    james n.s.w

    October 9, 2016 at 4:39 am

    • The woman who he raped, Juanita Broadrick, says so. Clinton’s only defense is that it’s all a lie. The same defense he used when he was accused of having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      October 9, 2016 at 7:17 am

      • So is every allegation of rape made by a woman to be believed? That’s certainly Hillary Clinton’s position, but is it yours, Lion?


        October 9, 2016 at 10:11 am

      • I believe Juanita Broaddrick’s allegations based on all of the evidence.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        October 9, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      • So is every allegation of rape made by a woman to be believed?

        The allegation is good enough to be used against Hillary in tonight’s debate. She wants to discuss abuse of women, Trump should take her up on the offer.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        October 9, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    • The evidence is not very strong. It’s total he said she said. And she changed her story.


      October 9, 2016 at 3:00 pm

  31. You people disgust me. Paul Ryan is pointing out the obvious – Donald Trump is being disrespectful towards women. In fact, unlike any of you, Paul was one of the first to come out publicly hours after the tape was released in a very organised and well presented manner to inform the public and condemn this racist germophobe misogynist, on a weekend non work day.

    In my opinion – and in an opinion I share with leading conservative intellectual priests of this country I might add – Paul Ryan is a Man’s Man. He lets others fondle and caress his voters while he watches and he can cite verbatim any page in Atlas Shrugged explaining the need for no borders and to ship out all the jobs to diligent child workers in plutocrat utopias. The free market is quite simply a magical and special thing allocating capital to its most productive and no wage workers. People always overlook this important point.

    But let us not just talk of his past achievements. But the future.

    Paul Ryan is a colossus bestriding the plains of contemporary political thought and imagination. His vision sears the sky with hope that we can believe in a newer America. An America where no race, cult or sexual fetish will be ignored. While we may all associate him with rugged masculinity, in his more tender moments we have also seen his compassion for the poor with his quite frankly – daring – proposals to give them capital gains tax breaks and relieve derivatives margin clearing OTC requirements which have been an enormous burden for the inner city hard working magical Negro community.

    With the physiognomy of a homosexual man, he will further open the Cuckold Party to previously unseen demographics like the 43% of male voters who are gay and the 68% of voters who are latinos or perhaps even the 10% of voters who are black, but count for triple because of their moral superiority and magical powers.

    Paul Ryan 2017. Make the Great Lakes flow red with his patriotic blood.

    The Philosopher

    October 9, 2016 at 5:12 am

  32. The alt-right Trump supporters have really collapsed into incoherence at this point.

    On the one hand, they claim they are part of a neo-reactionary, anti-modernist “dark enlightenment” or whatever, and yet they embrace a reality TV show candidate who embodies everything that is gross and vacuous about our modern age. I mean, Trump was lusting after some c-list starlet on his way to taping a soap opera cameo. This is the Napoleon of our time?

    On the one hand, they say feminists have created a hysterical culture of phony outrage over rape and exaggerated claims of sexual assault. And yet now they feign horror at the fact that Bill Clinton, a true alpha male if there ever was one, had a few consensual affairs over the course of his political career? The only accusation of rape leveled against him are extremely weak, and would not be taken seriously by PUA-types if they were leveled by some young college student against a lacrosse player.

    So what is it? Do we like our vulgar culture or not? Do we think men should behave however they want around women, or not? Are we demanding a higher standard, or not?


    October 9, 2016 at 10:10 am

    • The alt-Right simply turns the weapons of the left against the left. The left wants to argue that all women should be believed when they accuse a man of rape? Fine…then Bill Clinton is a rapist. The left loves it’s cultural iconism and degeneracy? Fine…then Trump is a perfectly acceptable presidential candidate.

      This jiu-jitsu exists within the logic of using the weapons that are at hand, as opposed to Republicans who think riding on horseback against armored divisions is reasonable.


      October 9, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      • Jiu-jitsu is not a philosophy. It’s just being contrarian. When Republicans do this, alt-right people call them “cucks.”


        October 9, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    • Nothing incoherent about it. The indiscretions of one man does not change the fact that his presidency vs hers could spell very different outcomes for the culture as a whole.

      As it stands Trump is far more likely to attack entrenched leftist positions like academia and media if he gets elected. I’d vote for him based on that alone.

      Jason Liu

      October 9, 2016 at 1:45 pm

  33. How many heterosexual men share Trump’s attitude toward women despite decades of reeducation? I’d sum up his attitude this way: Men value women foremost on looks. Men want a beautiful woman available for sex and as an expensive, high-status ornament. It’d be nice but not necessary if she weren’t completely retarded.

    He assumes women are just as venal: hot women auction themselves to the highest bidder, with an astronomically high opening bid. They want the highest status man they can wrangle with their looks.

    In other words, despite the strong disapproval of The New York Times editorial board, humans are still of the Kingdom animalia, Class mammalia, Order primates.

    Mark Caplan

    October 9, 2016 at 11:58 am

    • pack it in though guys, trumps done. i mean this was the best run ever and its a miracle he got as far as he did, but the whole trump camp is starting to sound like the bernie bros at the 11th hour of his campaign. i’m seeing the “look how many people he gets at his rallies!!” argument over and over again, “the polls are rigged” (when the polls show trump is winning, he brags about them), etc.

      i really think though that we cant hold it against trump at all. your country would be doomed anyway even if he had not run, as it would have been conservative empty suit no 4455 running instead. same result as hillary. trump was the last ditch, the only one with the personality, influence, and cash to try to run this camapign. it started off so well; it seemed like he was unbeatable initially. i really thought that in mid/late 2015 he was going to be the next president. he was saying everything we’ve been saying, he did it with energy and power, and everybody listened. he obliterated republican rival after republican rival.

      as the primaries began however i increasingly was losing optimism; he started to repeat himself ad nauseum, kept making gaffes, projected polls vs hillary refused to budge in his favour, and it even felt like he wasnt going to win to ted cruz, of all people. there was a brief resurgence after the republican convention but he was honeypotted into going after weird, irrelevant perpherial figures and the debate, not this scandal in my opinion, was the final sealer. he didnt even have that good a chance prior to the debate but his performance stopped the poll convergence in their tracks. this is just the icing on the cake, which has been baking pretty slowly since around the primaries began.

      it really sucks. america is never going to be the same again. amnesty is coming, the republicans will be shut off from the presidency forever. its not trumps fault. the demographic deluge goes on with no putting on the breaks a little as trump would have done. trump at most could have bought you guys some time for the nascent anti-immigration movement to become more mainstream. but now you have to look to the rest of the world, europe, and maybe even my country for some sort of redemption. my prediction is close to categorical for the united states: stick a fork in it baby, its cooked.

      james n.s.w

      October 9, 2016 at 12:37 pm

  34. Business Insider: “A former producer on the show [‘The Apprentice’] said that there are ‘far worse’ comments Trump made on tape.”

    Mark Caplan

    October 9, 2016 at 1:54 pm

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