Lion of the Blogosphere

Too soon to judge Comey

I see a lot of pro-Hillary types going crazy about how awful Comey is. The same Democrats were praising him all summer.

I have no idea what Comey knows about the emails on Weiner’s computer, so at this point in time it’s impossible for me to know for sure why Comey did what he did.

Scott Adams has the theory that Comey is an honest public servant who just saw too much bad stuff on Weiner’s computer to not do something before the election.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 1, 2016 at 6:31 pm

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  1. 1. Comey is a scumbag

    2. I was overly bullish on FL. I was under the impression that Dems had trounced Reps in early ballots in 2012, but that appears to be false. In 2012 it was even as it is now. The only difference is that this year there is a larger proportion of No Party Affiliation (NPA). Keep in mind that NPA and “Independent” are not synonymous. NPA is an official registration and Independent is a self descriptive term. So polls that show Trump dominating amongst so called independents do not mean that Trump is actually winning non-affiliated voters. That being the case, FL doesn’t look particularly good. Trump may still win it but based on early voting we should expect it to be close. There is some evidence though that registered independents favor Trump throughout the country.

    3. Based on early voting OH is a stone cold lock and NV and IA both look better than they did in 2012, but it is unknown if they are “better enough” to flip the states. Polls look good in both though. Early voting looks the best in NC in comparison to 2012.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 1, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    • If Democrat leaning states like Wisconsin and Virginia are narrowing Trump will win Florida.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 1, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    • That really makes me feel better about ignoring everything you say in favor of people that actually know what they’re talking about. Thank you.

      Magnavox

      November 1, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    • Again Otis, Democrat doesn’t = Hillary voter.

      Mostly but I doubt to the same degree as 2012.

      Big problem is massive Puerto Rican influx to Florida from the New York area.

      Have to hope low turnout for Hillary among blacks and Jews.

      Crazy turnout for Trump among the Revolutionaries!!!

      I suspect Trump turns out the North Florida vote a lot more than Romney.

      Rifleman

      November 2, 2016 at 12:15 am

      • I don’t think we should be counting on Trump winning massive net numbers of registered Dems when taking #NeverTrump into account. The polls are mixed on this.

        In NC Dems are now only 2 points behind their 2012 same day performance, but Reps are 8.5 points above their own, so the gap in comparison to 2012 numbers has actually increased since yesterday. Bad news is that black vote is slowly ticking up.

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 2, 2016 at 11:08 am

      • Ducky Dynasty Whites should worry more about the Puerto Ricans from the island who are flooding the state en masse, due to the financial crisis on the island.

        Puerto Ricans are the “Whitest” of the lesser Hispanics, among Mexicans, Central Americans and Dominicans. It’s quite funny that they aren’t even as prole as the White Cubanos who infest Miami.

        JS

        November 2, 2016 at 11:28 am

  2. I think he’s an honest public servant, but he had no idea what was in the emails. He wrote letter to cover his ass in the event something turned up. I don’t think anything will that’s relevant to the email investigation.

    More relevant is the foundation investigation. FBI hasn’t received clearance from DOJ to use overt investigate tactics because they don’t want to do that during election season. They also weren’t allowed to see her emails for purpose of examining foundation corruption because emails were turned over only for one purpose. The Weiner laptop changes things. They can possibly get a warrant to examine that to look for foundation related emails, which can lead to a authority to use overt tactics if they (likely) find something.

    All of which means we are headed into a genuine constitutional crisis if the FBI is examining a president / president elect.

    Corporatelawyer

    November 1, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    • Accepting your analysis, that still leaves the question of why there wasn’t a full-on investigation into the foundation/pay-to-play until now. Any ideas?

      Marty

      November 1, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    • “All of which means we are headed into a genuine constitutional crisis if the FBI is examining a president / president elect.”

      Everybody’s mentioning that as if it would be the end of the world. Why? Because it’s bad for the stock market? No sarcasm, that is the only thing about it that I can think would be bad. Life will go on.

      Ryan Lizza wrote something smart in The NYer defending Comey. You all should read it but the gist is that (a) the Weiner faptop (not his words) would have leaked anyway and (b) if it hadn’t – if the news were kept sealed until after the election – how much worse would that have been? He thinks that Comey was actually doing Hillary and the Democrats a favor.

      With that in mind, Reid’s response was that much more insane. He also looks particularly stupid with the NY Times article exonerating Trump of Russian ties today. He should be in disgrace.

      gothamette

      November 1, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      • I agree it could be a good thing for Clinton if she wins, but she has to first, you know, win. She would have strongly preferred if Comey’s announcement had said the e-mails have not been read and there’s no indication of wrongdoing.

        Clinton’s also still likely to win. Before this announcement, it’s like she was up three games to one. After the announcement, she dropped game five, and we’re into early innings of game six (where she’s down a run).

        Vince

        November 2, 2016 at 12:15 am

      • Define “constitutional crisis.”

        gothamette

        November 2, 2016 at 9:30 am

    • “I think he’s an honest public servant, but he had no idea what was in the emails. He wrote letter to cover his ass in the event something turned up. I don’t think anything will that’s relevant to the email investigation.I think he’s an honest public servant, but he had no idea what was in the emails. He wrote letter to cover his ass in the event something turned up. I don’t think anything will that’s relevant to the email investigation.”

      I dont accept this premise at all.

      The Democrats have now decided on their defense and its
      a. partisan and interfering!
      b. nothingburger!

      The Democrats putting out this spin really dont know anything at all and are just trying to frame the issue. Voter- “wait what is this? should I follow the story as it comes out and try to figure out what is going on?” Dems: “No- its not going come out for months and then its just the same information. Dont even engage with the issue”.

      The D’s story doesnt even hold together- Huma didnt even know the emails were on the computer (which I dont believe) but Harry Reid knows there is nothing exculpatory there??? How do politician spin operative know more about the contents of the computer than the owner?

      Here is the reality- the FBI had Weiner’s laptop for a month and were examining all of the data on it- part of which will be the local email store. Given the volume they were obviously using analysis program, not just reading through one by one. The output of that analysis was enough to link the investigations and trigger the letter.

      So what was the analysis? Clearly its :
      – not just there were Huma yahoo emails on the computer. The owner would be expect to have their emails there
      – not just that there were Huma .gov emails
      – not just that there were emails from Hillary @clintonemail.com since thousands of people had those
      – not just that there were was a huma@yahoo.com account since that is not enough to trigger an investigation

      Its more more likely that agents realized that on the machine there was an off-line replica of the huma@clintonemails.com account which contained tens of thousands of messages. Since there is probably some “politically sensitive” department handling the Weiner case they also realized that there was an overlap between this case and Clintons and that they probably didnt have clearance to read through the emails, therefor they need to kick this upstairs. It could also be a replica of the yahoo account that Huma never though she would have to turn over.

      Also note that Huma’s copy of her email folders might well be a superset of what we already have- not just the same thing. Of course Hillary could have redacted her released email, but more importantly she might have told Huma things verbally and then Huma mailed other people instructions regarding those conversations. Huma could have been the only copy.

      At a minimum this must have been of a nature (local replica) and volume of message that agents felt there was an exculpatory overlap with the Clinton investigation.

      Lion of the Turambar

      November 2, 2016 at 8:17 am

      • Ryan Lizza of the New Yorker is saying (b) this is a nothingburger that became a somethingburger because we all freaked out, so everyone chillax and say that Comey did us all a favor, because it really would have been a somethingburger if the news had been released after HRC’s election, or inauguration.

        I happen to think that even if the emails themselves are about yoga and weddings and not one was classified, the very fact that they were on a computer owned by a fapping perv, is a somethingburger.

        Lion – can you define fishing expedition, because some Hillbots are claiming that even if the FBI sought a warrant, it’s a fishing expedition. I say that’s BS but I’m not a lawyer.

        gothamette

        November 2, 2016 at 1:45 pm

      • Common sense tells you that there’s a good chance that there are emails there which prove crimes were committed, especially knowing that HRC deleted 33,000 emails previously.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 2, 2016 at 1:47 pm

      • Plenty of people have an email from Hillary Clinton on their computer. Thats not probably cause for a warrant nor would it incite the investigating agents or Comey to stick their necks out.

        When you extract out all the Dem talking head spin we know this had to be a significant cache of emails to generate this action. We also know that Huma cant admit she knew they were there or she’d be nailed on a felony.

        Lion o' the Turambar

        November 2, 2016 at 5:48 pm

      • Lion, WSJ just ran a blockbuster report about the Foundation and the emails, etc., but it’s behind paywall. Andrew McCarthy of NRO has a good recap:

        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441675/clinton-foundation-fbi-investigation-loretta-lynch-obstruction

        gothamette

        November 2, 2016 at 9:54 pm

      • It’s not behind the paywall if you understand the rules of the WSJ paywall.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 3, 2016 at 9:30 am

  3. There are several reasons, one is the stupidity of our elites and their liberal leanings that might have backfired — by picking candidates to work for them who are non-White and fit the agenda of having a cognitive profile, not compatible with Western Civilization. blacks (in this case Loretta Lynch) are generally less intelligent, have a need to dominate Whites as a form of retribution, yet recoil, when they realize how stupid they are. Then you have a Clinton aide Huma, who happens to being South Asian and Muslim — who is more interested in saving her own skin, because non-White strivers (who are usually non-black) are generally law abiding, self preserving, and are afraid of the authorities, when things don’t go their way. Both of these individuals have led Comey to get very aggressive with Hillary, due to their stupidity and/or cowardice.

    JS

    November 1, 2016 at 9:32 pm

  4. Scott Adams has the theory that Comey is an honest public servant who just saw too much bad stuff on Weiner’s computer to not do something before the election.

    Some people are claiming that he was facing a full scale revolt and mass resignations. I don’t know how accurate any of that is.

    Magnavox

    November 1, 2016 at 11:05 pm

  5. A word about the black vote. I walk past a black street vendor who blares his radio all the time, every day. Forget about black support for Trump. That is a fantasy of some on the alt-right. They are dismissing Weinergate as politics as usual. WRT Wikileaks, every time Cheryl Mills’ face appears in print, or on the net, it’s good for Hillary. She’s black. They care about stuff like that.

    Hillary has successfully recast herself as Obama’s 3rd term.

    gothamette

    November 1, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    • Forget about black support for Trump. That is a fantasy of some on the alt-right.

      I agree, same with the gay vote. I’m sick of the White guy alt-right nerds calling everybody “cuck” and then finding a few black fringe nobodies who support Trump and getting all giddy!

      WRT Wikileaks, every time Cheryl Mills’ face appears in print, or on the net, it’s good for Hillary. She’s black. They care about stuff like that.

      Cheryl Mills, Loretta Lynch, Michelle, Donna Brazille……..I’m sure black talk radio/black twitter etc are all ITS A WAR ON BLACK WOMEN!!!!!!

      You can’t expect black support at all, just hope for black apathy and low turnout.

      Rifleman

      November 2, 2016 at 12:23 am

    • Black turn out will be down from 2008 and 2012 though. The early voting data is showing this already. Plus Trump will get a slightly higher % of the black vote than Republicans did against Obama.

      Jay Fink

      November 2, 2016 at 12:42 am

    • What I don’t understand is all the people who I thought were sick of Republican pandering to blacks all of a sudden talking about how great Trump’s speeches on black issues are and predicting that he’s going to win their vote.

      Magnavox

      November 2, 2016 at 1:01 am

      • The difference is that previous Republican pandering to Blacks was just another version of Democrat-lite plus school choice. Trump is pandering on his terms and his agenda.

        Mike Street Station

        November 2, 2016 at 9:25 am

      • Mike,

        That is a good point but pandering still makes me queasy.

        I can’t believe that the US is in such a rotten state. Immigration, race, transgenderism, wars everywhere, it’s a complete mess.

        I really hope that if Trump wins (and I’m back to thinking he won’t) the MAGA/USA!USA! crowd isn’t gonna push us into another war.

        gothamette

        November 2, 2016 at 2:12 pm

      • Yes, America is f#cking mess, just look at Manhattan, you have welfare brown n black bums who live next to SWPL millionaires. One group lives on a steady diet of yankee doodles and the other $20 cupcakes for dessert.

        JS

        November 2, 2016 at 6:32 pm

      • I never heard of a cupcake costing more than $6.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 2, 2016 at 8:15 pm

      • I got the price from your blog buddy pow wow FP. $20 is quite high.

        Magnolia’s, a pricey bakery in the west village did offer oversized cupcakes for about $15 each.

        JS

        November 2, 2016 at 9:46 pm

      • “That is a good point but pandering still makes me queasy.”

        Me too, however we’ve gone too far down the rabbit hole to get out of it now. It’s just a matter of pandering to whom and with what.

        Mike Street Station

        November 3, 2016 at 9:08 am

  6. Since you mention Scott Adams — on Adams’s Oct. 31 post “Candidate Risk Assessment” he rates the risk of Trump instituting “some racist/sexist/homophobic policies” at zero. Now, Adams might mean that such policies, if instituted by Trump, would not endanger us. It is more likely, though, that Adams means that Trump will not institute such policies. If Adams is right, then this election is trivial, and the only reason to prefer Trump’s victory is that this victory would annoy loathsome people. Because the only thing that would Make America Great Again is the institution of racist/sexist/homophobic policies — that is, policies that would be called “racist”, “sexist”, and “homophobic” by the loathsome people whom Trump’s victory would annoy.

    Garr

    November 2, 2016 at 6:34 am

    • I believe that Trump will build the wall, and also that his administration will be much better for law enforcement.

      I also believe that HRC will be MORE liberal than Obama on immigration. After she packs the Supreme Court liberal with the Scalia replacement, she can issue executive orders to open the borders and legalize the illegals and the S.Ct will go along with it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 2, 2016 at 7:02 am

      • Who will pay for the wall? The Mexican President already said Mexico will not be paying for it. Trump insisted they would, and it now appears that Meriprolestan will be forking out the bill, if Trump gets elected.

        JS

        November 2, 2016 at 11:35 am

      • Trump insisted they would

        Trump never said he would simply mail an invoice to Mexico. He has other plans to get the money.

        Rifleman

        November 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

      • Money transfers to Mexico will be taxed to pay for it. But it realy doesn’t matter as long as it’s built.

        Yakov

        November 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      • Yakov — Maybe there is an opportunity for you. They might need ventilation for the toilets situated at the border stations. Would you take the assignment?

        JS

        November 2, 2016 at 1:46 pm

  7. Trump is up 6% in the LATimes tracking poll, which was the most accurate in 2012. Hillary is toast.

    JimBonobo

    November 2, 2016 at 9:16 am

  8. I need to retract my previous correction about early voting: R’s really are beating D’s in relation to 2012. At this time in 2012, Dems led early voting by 50,000, now they are behind by either 8000 or 16000, I’m seeing both numbers.

    Republicans doing worse in early voting in AZ and CO, but better everywhere else.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 2, 2016 at 11:25 am

    • It’s because Romney told the Mormons not to vote for Trump. Blame Romney.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 2, 2016 at 11:34 am

      • Romney’s Revenge is going on in Utah as well where a closeted gay Mormon might throw Utah to Hillary.

        Trump is still in trouble.

        Even if he grabs Fla/Ohio/Iowa he still is on the way to losing PA and Michigan and can’t get Virginia.

        That means he needs to hold Arizona and Utah and get New Hampshire/Nevada and Colorado.

        Remember most Americans are getting hit with a brutally anti Trump TV agenda and one that is trying to minimize Hillary’s problems. They aren’t online going to pro Trump websites.

        I can see a clear Hillary win or even a close shocker where she wins because she takes Arizona and Utah from the Republicans.

        Rifleman

        November 2, 2016 at 12:53 pm

      • I see a close Hillary win in the popular vote, and an electoral blowout. All she has to do is prevail by 1 point in the big industrial states and that happens. It’s almost a reverse of what happened to her in 2008: she didn’t get schlonged, she won the Democratic primary popular vote, by about 300K votes, and she won the Democratic white vote. Look it up. She lost total # of contests and the Supers went to Obama, because blacks.

        gothamette

        November 2, 2016 at 2:16 pm

      • Republicans doing worse in early voting in AZ and CO, but better everywhere else.

        Trump has Arizona.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 2, 2016 at 5:00 pm

      • Colorado will be close but he may not need it if he wins New Hampshire.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 2, 2016 at 5:01 pm

  9. The Project Veritas “bombshell” today is a big fizz in my opinion. It won’t get teh blecks furrrrrrriiiiooooouuuusss with righteous anger. They won’t even notice it.

    WHERE IS THE WIKI BOMB????

    peterike

    November 2, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    • Who needs Wiki. Here come the FBI rank & file to the rescue. Hillary is toast. Trump may have to pardon Obama “sight unseen” when he takes the oath in order to avoid a serious race problem going forward. He’ll be allowed to fade into the woodwork, but he’ll always know that the file will be open inside the FBI office……

      Who would like to be a fly on the wall when they travel together on inauguration day? Sweet irony for Trump, no? Sometimes, it seems, the Gods still do intervene in the affairs of man.

      gda

      November 3, 2016 at 1:22 am

  10. Somebody in the FBI is a friend of Trump.

    The FBI just responded to FOI requests on the Vince Foster case (I didn’t realize that he died next to the Saudi Ambassador’s residence). They could have stonewalled these requests or answered after the election.

    Comey’s scum tho. His brother takes checks from the Clinton Foundatation, so he’s not to be trusted.

    Rotten

    November 2, 2016 at 2:16 pm

  11. Guys, on the leaks/bombshells/whatever, rule to live by is this: if it is being hyped, it’s nothing. The big bombs are always unannounced surprises.

    The Veritas thing was actually more of a nothingburger than I expected, and I was expecting next to nothing. They went the extra mile though and produced literal nothing. O’Keefe is a total hack.

    Some Wikileaks stuff is interesting but without a smoking gun that ties to Hillary directly you can’t expect it to have any impact on the race. Remember, everybody already knows that Hillary is totally corrupt so further proof of that doesn’t really matter.

    The email stuff isn’t decisive, but it staying in the news helps depress Dem enthusiasm and consolidate the Republicans. PPD has us up by 2.6 and USC by 5.6. The APA has Trump up by 2.8. If you add back in the ABC tracker that was removed last week for being blatantly rigged, the new average is a Trump lead of 2.1 with about 5% undecided. We would expect that 5% to break 3 points to 2 in favor of Trump so that comes out to a 3 point Trump national victory in the popular vote.

    I’m sticking with my 1 percent Trump popular vote victory.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 2, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    • Are you going to revise your analysis of Nevada? Polls of that state have swung towards Trump.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 2, 2016 at 4:54 pm

      • The EV totals in NV make an win by Trump pretty much impossible. The Dems have NV.

        SWPL2

        November 2, 2016 at 9:40 pm

  12. The Republicans have been saying for a year that Clinton would be criminally charged in the email investigation.

    When Comey said there would be no charges, the Republican base felt Comey was a traitor and corrupt, because the Republican leaders, TV pundits and the talk radio crowd had been promising criminal charges.

    Most top Republicans knew that there was no criminal case, but they said there would be criminal charges anyway for political reasons. Anyone who had seem all the leaked evidence (which was pretty much all of it) and was familiar with national security legal issues was saying there would be no criminal charges based on that evidence.

    Hillary only used her private server for her unclassified email. There was not suppose to be any classified information in those emails and none of the emails had headers to indicate they contained classified information. Headers marking the emails as classified are required on emails containing classified information. Some emails were found on her server that contained information which the FBI considered to be classified. Hillary apparently replied to or forwarded a few of those emails, but she was emailing State Department employees authorized to receive classified information. She cannot be charged with passing classified information to someone not authorized to receive it, because she never did that. (This is what Gen. Petraeus was charged with when he passed classified information to his biographer/mistress).

    There is part of the law that covers gross negligence with classified information. There is virtually no case law on that because no one has ever been criminally charged for negligence. As far as is known people have been fired or reprimanded for negligence, but not criminally charged. If you were going to charge someone, it would have to be the person who originally sent the classified information in an unclassified email. From my reading of FBI reports that was never Hillary Clinton. Hillary forwarded or replied to emails containing classified information, but she was not the person who added the classified information to the email chain.

    Some people might argue that having a private email server was gross negligence, but it was only suppose to be for unclassified email. The argument that her private email server was way more dangerous than a gmail account might have some merit if Bill Clinton setup and ran the server on some old Mac computer, but it was setup by a good IT consultant and had professional routers and firewalls. Even if you believe that setting up her own server was gross negligence, again it was only suppose to be for unclassified email.

    It is highly doubtful the Weiner emails will add anything that changes the conclusions.

    mikeca

    November 2, 2016 at 4:39 pm

  13. On NeoGaf spirits are pretty high after today’s released polls. They feel like they got this and some are even predicting a 10 point Hillary victory. Their confidence is based on polls, Nate Cohn and anonymous GOP/Dem/Non partisan sources that hack media figure John Harwood is quoting on Twitter who claim that Crooked Hillary is winning by 5 – 6.

    The truth is, I just don’t know how to properly evaluate state polls and early voting this year. I like to look at national polling because there is more of a standardized historical base to work off of. RCP aggregator has Trump down to Crooked Hillary by 1.7 points. You have to figure that by next week it will be down below 1, the same as it was for Obama/Romney. HuffPo, meanwhile has Trump down by 5.9, whereas in 2012 it ended with Romney down by 1.5. Trump will likely be down by 5 come election day in their tracker.

    So we are going to end up with the APA aggregate on one hand showing Trump +2 and HuffPo on the other showing Hil +5. Both aggregates will show a massive amount of undecideds/3rd-party. Who to believe? What to believe? A lot of uncertainty in this race.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 2, 2016 at 5:31 pm

  14. We will never find out 1/10th of the perfidy contained in those emails. WWIII doesn’t scare them. Citizens taking to the streets w/ pitchforks & torches, now THAT is what scares them.

    Details will be swept under the rug with improper handling of classified information charges, or similar, maybe a pay-to-play scheme or two we already know about, and that’s it.

    Seth Rich, Epstein, 1/2 of the cucks in the Legislative Branch… it will never come out.

    Portlander

    November 3, 2016 at 1:02 am

  15. What were Comey’s options? Seriously. In my book, the fact that he’s been on the bad side of both partisan Republicans and Dems indicates that he’s as close to neutral as you could expect. I’m horrified Obama would speak out publicly against him during an election (welcome to Chicago).

    SWPL2

    November 3, 2016 at 8:40 am


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