Lion of the Blogosphere

I agree with Jeff Sessions

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U.S. Senator Jeff Sessions issues the following statement:

I am shocked that the President of the United States—who is the chief law enforcement officer for the nation and to whom all federal law enforcement officers report—failed to strongly and immediately object to a statement by an interviewer that unlawful immigrants can and should vote in U.S. elections. The interviewer proposed a radical and illegal action, which the President had a duty to condemn.

The President must immediately issue a statement to make crystal clear that only citizens of the United States have the right to vote, and that any noncitizen who votes, and anyone who assists noncitizens to vote, does so illegally and is subject to prosecution. The failure to clarify this statement will only add further credibility to the public’s concerns about the integrity of this election.

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I’m not really sure what Obama is saying. It’s clear that the interviewer proposes a scenario where a non-citizen votes (despite her creative alternative definition of “citizen”), and Obama, instead of saying that it violates the law for a non-citizen to vote, he says “when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.” No Obama, the act of illegally voting does NOT make someone a citizen, it makes someone a criminal.

Obama’s obfuscation of this issue demonstrates his modus operandi of trying to legalize illegal aliens through executive action and non-enforcement of the laws.

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IHTG writes in a comment:

What are the odds that there will be a push for illegal immigrant suffrage in the coming years? I feel like the elite opinion isn’t far from there.

If HRC wins the election, and gets to pack the Supreme Court with extreme liberals, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Court finds a “Constitutional right” for “undocumented Americans” to vote.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 7, 2016 at 6:57 pm

Posted in Immigration, Politics

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  1. I’d be critical except I cant tell what either of these two idiots are talking about. Something transfers over when you enter the voting booth?

    Lion o' the Turambar

    November 7, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    • Sure sounds like she’s asking him, very inarticulately, whether illegal immigrants should be afraid to vote and then answers a different question: that citizens with illegal relatives should not be afraid to vote.

      This is still disgusting. No, nobody should be encourage to feel good about voting for the interests of their non-citizen relatives, who can’t vote for a reason, against the interests of their fellow citizens.

      Greg Pandatshang

      November 7, 2016 at 11:53 pm

      • See full video for context, Lion is exaggerating a bit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLLt-a6dI_0

        Foobar

        November 8, 2016 at 1:41 am

      • I did watch that section of the longer edit. I think Lion is exaggerating when he says that Obama thinks voting makes you a citizen for that moment, although to be fair, it’s really hard to tell what either of these two idiots is talking about in this interview, and to be even more fair, Lion said up front that it’s ambiguous.

        The Sesh is not exaggerating when he says that Obama blatantly failed to make a clear statement that no one should cast an illegal vote. And I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that Obama is encouraging citizens to vote for the interests of their non-citizen relatives.

        Greg Pandatshang

        November 8, 2016 at 10:09 am

  2. What are the odds that there will be a push for illegal immigrant suffrage in the coming years? I feel like the elite opinion isn’t far from there.

    IHTG

    November 7, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    • Apparently it was a thing in the 19th century. So there’s precedent! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote_in_the_United_States

      You are so fucked lol.

      IHTG

      November 7, 2016 at 7:18 pm

      • Expect a long New Yorker article that explains non-citizens voting is a part of our history. Then the view will percolate down to New York Times, NPR, and rest of the media.

        Soon a pink-haired illegal alien will protest by trying to vote. Media will compare it to Civil Rights Movement. Supreme Court will declare it against due process to discriminate among US residents that are not citizens.

        Jimi

        November 7, 2016 at 7:37 pm

      • And we’re still blogging as if America is still salvageable from the forces of evil.

        For those who want to remain in the country and don’t want to deal with our pluralistic society head on, you can cross your fingers and hope that a nationwide basic income will come to fruition soon or telecommuting becomes the norm in terms of White Collar employment. This way, you can live in a state with a White majority and not deal with the shenanigans that are an everyday affair in places such as New York City.

        JS

        November 7, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    • So Can I come down from Canada for the day and vote for Trump?

      Rosenmop

      November 7, 2016 at 8:40 pm

  3. This is an edit video that cuts off much of the exchange.

    The question is at about the 3:20 mark in this video.

    Gina Rodriguez did not ask this question very clearly. What Obama thought she was asking was if you are a citizen but you have friends or relatives that are undocumented, will INS use the fact that you voted to start an investigation of your family and friends to look for people to deport.

    If you listen to the whole exchange, it is clear that Obama is encouraging Latinos that are citizens to vote, not encouraging the undocumented to vote.

    mikeca

    November 7, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    • Yes, Obama is encouraging Latinos to vote. But the context of the interviewer’s question doesn’t change. She clearly poses a scenario where a non-citizen (a “dreamer” or an “undocumented”) votes.

      Note that “dreamer” is the latest Euphemism for an illegal alien who attends U.S. college illegally.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 7, 2016 at 8:05 pm

      • What about all the Chinese, East Indian and Soddy Barbarian students studying in the US? Can they vote too? Or only people who speak Spanish?

        Rosenmop

        November 7, 2016 at 8:42 pm

      • Didn’t even catch the ‘dreamer’. Quite the euphemism! ‘Do you hate dreamers?’

        Alfred Woenselaer

        November 7, 2016 at 9:11 pm

      • I hate the euphemism.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 7, 2016 at 9:31 pm

      • Did not mean that in a Schadenfreude way.

        Alfred Woenselaer

        November 7, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    • Bullsh-t, she explicitly posed the question explicitly of “undocumented citizens” voting and being found out. And he explicitly answers that. Then he equivocates about family members.

      Lion is right. Session is right.

      NotMyName

      November 8, 2016 at 12:12 am

  4. I’d guess that the argument will soon be that illegal immigrants have always had the right to vote and that it is unamerican to think otherwise.

    Alfred Woenselaer

    November 7, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    • Ha! We have always been at war with Oceana.

      Two in the Bush

      November 7, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    • “I’d guess that the argument will soon be that illegal immigrants have always had the right to vote and that it is unamerican to think otherwise.”

      I think you may be right. It pretty much matches this gem from Obama: “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”

      Lewis Medlock

      November 8, 2016 at 11:32 am

  5. A commenter on a previous post here, in response to me, made the point that you don’t need a law to create de facto non-citizen voting (nor do you need a court case explicitly addressing that particular issue): all you need is a court decision saying ID’s can’t be checked at polling places, and another court decision saying voter registration must be given to anyone who asks for it.

    Hermes

    November 7, 2016 at 8:02 pm

  6. Gina Rodriguez is cute. I love Latinas.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 7, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    • You wouldn’t if you had to sit next to them on subways and buses and listen to the stuff coming out of their headphones and mouths. Or maneuver past them on the street to get to Keyfood.

      Garr

      November 7, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    • I think hispanics are pretty damn awful but my opinion on different immigrant groups definitely is influence by the physical attractiveness of the last female member of that group I saw. Hispanics are generally pretty ugly in addition to all their other faults

      Magnavox

      November 7, 2016 at 10:42 pm

      • I agree. I hate it when these red-pill-type guys tell other guys to go get a bride from Columbia or someplace like that. I’d rather stay home and play video games alone.

        Hermes

        November 8, 2016 at 12:07 am

      • Ethnic groups by sex appeal (note: Sex appeal not the same as beauty. Taylor Swift world’s most beautiful woman but has 0 sex appeal)

        1. Latinas
        2. Arabs
        3. Northeast Asians
        4. Iranians
        5. Indians/Pakistanis
        6. Southern Euros
        7. Eastern Euros
        8. Nordics
        9. Anglo-British

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 8, 2016 at 1:14 am

      • I remember all of these Columbian architect-kids I used to be acquainted with through my 2nd ex-wife … all of the upper-middle-class kids in Columbia are architects, I think. They were like Elves. This one girl dancing at a party, waving a boa around … man, she was so pretty it made my mind melt. “Hispanics” means PR/Dominican (part-Black), while “Latino” means south-of-the-border little brown Hobbits (Amerindian), right? PR/Dominican girls can be fantastically hot. Even southling girls can be very cute, if they’re not overweight. It’s all a function of whether the female’s fat or not. There’s nothing more to it. I had PR/Dominican women, not “Latinas” in mind in my reply to O; the Latinas (if I’m using the term correctly) are completely silent except for cooing-sounds directed at their children and murmurings toward their men if they grew up south of the border, and do play loud crap through their headphones if they grew up here but still not much comes out of their mouths. Latinas never yell at their men on the street, the way PR/Dominican women frequently do. (Those Columbian architect-kids looked completely European — a different population from “Latino/as”.)

        Garr

        November 8, 2016 at 5:35 am

      • PR and Dominican women are not equal in terms of beauty, unless you like females with the same phenotype as Alex Rodriguez.

        JS

        November 8, 2016 at 9:10 am

      • That’s pretty true, unless you are talking about the upper crust immigrants from Latin America, who remind you of the characters in General Hospital, except they speak Spanish.

        JS

        November 8, 2016 at 9:13 am

      • Because they are so few Venezuelans in America, one is unable to make a similarity between Puerto Ricans and Venezuelans. Dominicans are remotely similar to Puerto Ricans in terms of physique, food and music.

        JS

        November 8, 2016 at 9:17 am

  7. The chick in the video looks like she’s ready to jump Obama’s bones at any second. Eyes fluttering, almost blushing.

    trey

    November 7, 2016 at 8:09 pm

  8. Congress doesn’t make the laws for who can or can’t vote. That’s left up to the states. So if a state says pink flamingos can vote then they can vote. Of course, the federal courts have stepped in saying states couldn’t restrict certain classes from voting. So there are two ways illegals can vote. First, if a state allows them. And, second, if courts say the states can’t prohibit them. But I’m not aware of courts ever telling a state to prohibit someone from voting. Expect to see a SCOTUS ruling on illegals voting in the next 8 years. Then the Dems won’t just be busing voters across the state lines. They’ll be busing them in from Guatemala as well.

    destructure

    November 7, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    • Interesting. Whaddya wanna bet that California becomes the test state? CA is deep blue but full faith & credit, etc.

      gothamette

      November 7, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    • With the increase in mail-in voting, and the suggestion we vote online, expect the Dems to flat out open offices in Guatemala et al under their new banner of “a world power needs the world to vote in its elections.”

      And so the Chinese come to rule us, and Democrat party operatives will all get lifetime jobs hectoring the remnant US population on how racist they are.

      bomag

      November 8, 2016 at 3:42 am

  9. We’ve already debunked this video a couple of posts ago. Sessions makes himself look like a jackass in letting himself be tricked by a highly edited video.

    GINA RODRIGUEZ IS A U.S. CITIZEN. Obama encourages HER to vote, not illegals. True, she is disgusting in her Mexicanish disrespect for the rule of law. And Obama is just as nauseating, given that Rodriguez announces her family is harboring illegal aliens and the Kenyan grins approvingly. But Obama does not encourage illegals to vote.

    Mark Caplan

    November 7, 2016 at 11:40 pm

    • I disagree, the interviewer presents a CLEAR SCENARIO in which an illegal alien votes, and Obama responds by saying that it’s OK to vote. Although I agree that Obama was probably trying to answer a different question to avoid saying that it’s illegal for illegal aliens to vote, but nevertheless, he winds up implying that illegal aliens can vote.

      And you know that Obama is NEVER going to come out and say in plain English that illegal aliens can’t vote.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 7, 2016 at 11:59 pm

      • It’s ambiguous but you have to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. A big part of the problem is that she clouded the whole issue with her screwball definition of citizenhood. Theres a reason why serious discussions of issues use commonly accepted definitions of key terms.

        Magnavox

        November 8, 2016 at 12:21 am

      • I agree with HS on this.

        Rodriguez proposes the scenario of someone that isnt a citizen but *she* considers a citizen and talks about them voting. They she talks about “undocumented” relatives being tracked down (how?).

        Obama doesnt correct the impression that people can make up their own definition of what a citizen is so he accepts her premise. He also acquiesces to her “undocumented” term.

        Lion of the Turambar

        November 8, 2016 at 9:14 am

      • Here’s the transcript of the video clip mikeca provided above, starting at 3:23, proving that Obama most emphatically does NOT encourage illegals to vote:

        GINA: Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them “citizens” because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So, if I vote, will Immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

        OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote — you are a citizen yourself — and there is not a situation where the voting rules somehow are transferred over, and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

        GINA: There is a huge fear expressed, especially during this election.

        OBAMA: The reason that fear is promoted is that they don’t want people voting. People are discouraged from voting. And part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard because you’re not just speaking for yourself. You’re speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school, who may not have a voice; who can’t legally vote. But they are counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

        Mark Caplan

        November 8, 2016 at 10:19 am

      • “Many of the Millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them “citizens” because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting.”

        “Dreamers” and “undocumented citizens” are both euphemisms for illegal aliens, and they SHOULD be fearful of voting because they aren’t legally allowed to vote.

        Obama knew exactly what she meant, because Obama is not stupid, but he choose to ignore it and answer the question he wishes she had asked instead which seems to be “should you be afraid vote if you are an American citizen but one of your family members is an illegal alien” which is a pretty weird and unlikely situation anyway, but his answer definitely implies that illegal aliens don’t have to be afraid to vote.

        As Marco Rubio said five times in a single debate, Obama knows exactly what he’s doing.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 8, 2016 at 10:35 am

    • Mark Caplan === Squid Ink Vomiting Liar.

      NotMyName

      November 8, 2016 at 12:13 am

    • Who ya gonna believe. Mark Caplan or your lyin’ eyes and ears?

      NotMyName

      November 8, 2016 at 12:14 am

    • We’ve already debunked…….

      We? You mean you and your Hilbot buddies!

      “It’s been debunked” seems to be the new liberal/left code phrase like “that’s not who we are as a nation/country”.

      Can’t agree with those who say the girl is cute or that most Latinas are.

      Yes, “dreamers” is a euphemism but so is “undocumented-“.

      We can “document” that the person is here ILLEGALLY so they are resident aliens. They are illegal aliens.

      Rifleman

      November 8, 2016 at 2:23 am

  10. Wouldn’t this make Obama liable to prosecution as an accessory to voting fraud or something like it?

    chris

    November 8, 2016 at 1:07 am

  11. Probably the nadir of the his presidency. Worst thing he’s ever said.

    The Philosopher

    November 8, 2016 at 4:44 am

  12. Lol, for some reason this makes me think Obama’s post-presidential career will look somewhat like OJ’s. There’s just something typically wobbly about his persona. What are the odds he will be in prison in 2030 for trying to steal memorabilia from the White House?

    Glengarry

    November 8, 2016 at 4:48 am

  13. Too late. Non citizen voting is already on the lefty wish list, and like everything else on their list, they will eventually get it. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-10-28/some-cities-want-their-immigrants-to-vote

    Mike Street Station

    November 8, 2016 at 6:10 am

  14. Voting issue aside, shouldn’t it be considered scandalous that our President didn’t go out of his way to make it clear that illegal immigrants shouldn’t be here (illegally) in the first place?

    Camlost

    November 8, 2016 at 8:41 am


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