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California secession? What irony!

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If this is in any way serious and not just a bunch of cheap talk similar to “I’m moving to Canada if Trump wins” (and it’s probably the latter), then it’s a great irony for white nationalists who always dreamed about seceding from the United States to form a white nation. California (which is only about 37% non-Hispanic white) may solve the problem by seceding first, thus leaving the rest of the nation much whiter and much more nationalist.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 10, 2016 at 10:20 am

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  1. Canadian talk radio was absolutely vicious yesterday morning…like, why the fuck do you guys assume you’d be welcome here anyway? “Oh yes, treat my country like a closet you can retreat to when you get a little fussy…take my job…”

    Klambake

    November 10, 2016 at 10:23 am

    • Yup. It’s astonishing how many open borders nuts honestly seem to think that no other country has borders or immigration controls.

      Jesse

      November 10, 2016 at 11:37 am

      • Exactly

        Big Humpa

        November 10, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    • And Canadian David Frum’s twitter feed indicates he should be put on suicide watch:
      https://twitter.com/davidfrum

      A recurring theme is that Trump’s main priority as POTUS will be self-enrichment.

      curri

      November 10, 2016 at 1:06 pm

      • He’s completely lost it.

        Somebody needs to tell him that there’s almost nothing that Trump has done that Netanyahu hasn’t.

        IHTG

        November 10, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    • “Canadian president Justin Trudeau vows to build wall to protect his people from invasion of panic-stricken American refugees fleeing north.”
      From @DRPK_news service on Twitter.

      beancrusher

      November 10, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    • You must be from Anglo-Prole-Sphere Canada, which is a minor variant/irritant of the great Meriprolestan and the English Speaking Axis of Evilsphere in general. Those imbeciles trying to step up are going into a land with a similar feel and experience. If anything, why would a Californian relocate to much of Anglo Canada, whose people and their towns remind them of the people and places that voted for Donald Trump in their own soil.

      JS

      November 10, 2016 at 3:55 pm

      • Furthermore, Canada is less diverse than America, and these “liberal” losers aren’t getting the diversity dose they need to thrive.

        JS

        November 10, 2016 at 3:59 pm

      • In the cities Canada is now very diverse thanks to Trudope’s father who opened the flood gates in the late 60’s, early ’70’s. Vancouver is at least 1/3 Chinese and 1/3 Sikh.

        Toronto has quite a lot of black people from Jamaica and Somalia. And many many Muslims.

        Trudope seems determined to finish the job his father started and bring in even more immigrants. I doubt if white people are even allowed to immigrate to Canada anymore.

        Rosenmop

        November 10, 2016 at 4:54 pm

      • Vancouver and Toronto — Canada’s San Francisco and New York City respectively. They are diverse, but not poisonous enough for American liberals.

        Minus the Frenchies in their own province, Canada is White as ice. I would live in Winnipeg than anyplace in Middle America.

        JS

        November 10, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      • JS:

        Winnipeg has quite a few First Nations people who seem to be crime prone and violent. They mostly died off further east. If you look at crime rates in towns and cities in Western Canada there is a high positive correlation with the percent of first nations people. But I don’t think they are more than 5 or 6% of the population anywhere outside a reserve, or the far north. Nunavut has the highest murder rate in Canada. Almost all natives up there. Of course you are literally Hitler if you notice. A lot of it might be due to drinking and drugs, but I suspect they are more naturally violent. Usually they just murder at her natives but not always.

        And if we didn’t have enough proplems with natives now Somalis are spreading everywhere. A lot in Edmonton, which has been called “Dedmenton ” because so many Somalis are shot and killed. They come out west from Toronto to deal drugs and run afoul of the Native gangs. Why we are bringing Somalis to Canada I don’t know. They are the worst immigrants in the world. You can be sure Trudope’s children don’t have to go to school with Somali kids. So what does he care?

        Rosenmops

        November 10, 2016 at 6:13 pm

      • I’m not in Canada, just close enough to pick up some of the stronger radio signals from TO on my regular car radio. I’ve NEVER heard them as unhinged as they were yesterday.

        Klambake

        November 10, 2016 at 6:19 pm

      • Klambake:

        Were you listening to the CBC? They are extreme leftists and their heads must have been exploding LOL.

        Rosenmops

        November 10, 2016 at 8:00 pm

      • @Rosenmop

        Doesn’t Canada also have a huge “Aboriginal” guilt industry? What do white Canucks think about that stuff?

        gothamette

        November 10, 2016 at 9:42 pm

      • American Colonial settlers were indeed more brutal with the natives than their Canadian counterparts.

        JS

        November 10, 2016 at 9:52 pm

      • “Doesn’t Canada also have a huge “Aboriginal” guilt industry?”

        Yeah, although it’s only become truly fashionable in recent years.

        Klambake

        November 11, 2016 at 6:52 am

  2. I think this is even less serious than the State Jefferson proposal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state) which has been around for more than 50 years. The state of Jefferson would be formed in the mostly rural parts of Northern California and Southern Oregon.

    Mike CA

    November 10, 2016 at 10:33 am

    • This is a great idea. And then the Trump Wall should extend north cutting off the coast. Marvelous.

      Andrew E.

      November 10, 2016 at 11:13 am

  3. Buh bye California!

    peterike

    November 10, 2016 at 10:43 am

    • Hello, new west coast. *My* west coast. Costa Del Trump. Trumpville. Trumpton. Marina Del Trump. Penceburg. . .

      fakeemail

      November 10, 2016 at 12:10 pm

      • I see what you did there.

        Robert the Wise

        November 10, 2016 at 1:20 pm

  4. California used to belong to Mexico. It seems only fair that if California wants to leave that U.S., we give the state to Mexico, perhaps in return for Mexico paying for the (now much longer) wall.

    James Miller

    November 10, 2016 at 11:33 am

    • I like where your mind is going, but realistically all that would do is create a wave of refugees into the other 49 states, unless it was prepped very carefully beforehand. The people whining do NOT want to live in Mexico.

      Jesse

      November 10, 2016 at 11:38 am

    • Wouldn’t even have to give them to mexico. Mexico would just take it within a decade. Build a wall on the border with a funnel to California. And then all the White californians couldn’t flee to az and vote democrat cause they wouldn’t be part of the USA anymore. The only downside I see would be it would limit port access on the west coast but maybe that could move up to Oregon and Washinton

      everybodyhatesscott

      November 10, 2016 at 11:43 am

    • Would be a good deal for Mexico. The GDP of California is more than 2x the GDP of Mexico, even though Mexico’s population is more than 3x as large.

      I thought the era of Mexico getting good deals at our expense is over.

      Dan

      November 10, 2016 at 11:58 am

    • I’m tired of people trying to give away American states. If they don’t want to be part of America then they should pack their bags and go back to wherever they came from.

      destructure

      November 10, 2016 at 1:48 pm

  5. I live in California. Reminds me of the show ” the americans” … on the show the mom and dad are great parents hard working good people. But they hold political views that are unacceptable. If anyone finds out their political views the US government will kidnap the mom and dad and torture the mom and dad for the rest of their lives. same with me. I am wealthy and live among nice good hearted wealthy libs. But if they found out i believe in hbd they would report me to the government and hope for me to be arrested and tortured to death.

    Wencil

    November 10, 2016 at 11:55 am

    • Uh, on “The Americans,” their political views were unacceptable because they were communist spies. The US government, mainly the FBI, were cast as a bunch of bumbling idiots. If they had been caught, they would have been imprisoned and possibly traded for other spies. The only torturing and killing on the show was done by the communists, both here and in the USSR.

      Great show, BTW. Hope it continues.

      Black Death

      November 10, 2016 at 5:27 pm

  6. Trump’s election makes Mexico more likely to respond by electing the socialist, confrontational Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador to its single six-year term as president in July 2018.

    The other likely main candidate, Margarita Zavala, was Mexico’s first lady in 2006-2012 to the conservative president Felipe Calderon who fought the cartels far more ruthlessly and bravely than any other Mexican president before or since. He also toned down his predecessor Vicente Fox’s anti-American grandstanding.

    Anyway, a candidate with pro-American baggage is going to be seen as very suspect in this climate. So the deterioration of US-Mexico relations is just beginning.

    Fiddlesticks

    November 10, 2016 at 11:56 am

    • Ja Ja Ja.

      AMLO isn’t going to have any chance in 2018. He’s had to break away from the PRD to promote his own power and the PRD leadership isn’t going to give him a clear shot at the presidency. They hate him. And his supporters are going to peal away in a national race.

      Calderón and his wife are not appreciated and she will not likely be the Blanquiazul candidate. On a national level, people are well aware of his utterly failed and stupid war with the cartels. PAN national president and former Speaker of the House Ricardo Anaya is still the favorite to be the PAN candidate and has a good chance at being president.

      There will be several viable candidates from the PRI also. And one can never count out the Tricolor in Mexico.

      And no candidate is going to think he can afford to promote bad relations with the USA. The Mexican government is well aware of how much the Mexican economy depends on healthy US connections.

      owentt

      November 10, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      • LOL could your talking points be any more fresa?

        Fiddlesticks

        November 10, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    • Mexico’s economy is totally dependent on the US. We could destroy them without breaking a sweat.

      destructure

      November 10, 2016 at 1:42 pm

  7. Ha ha ha. So true. With California goes its 55 guaranteed blue electoral votes, along with the sometime Democrat majority popular vote that spurs liberals to call for an end to the Electoral College.

    On the other hand, California is a huge agricultural producer, so it would remain to be seen whether SWPLs in the rest of America could get their precious arugula. The new nation of California might refuse to export to the “racist” rest of America.

    Hermes

    November 10, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    • The US already imports agricultural products from Mexico.

      JW Bell

      November 10, 2016 at 2:02 pm

      • But Mexico isn’t run by SJWs who think red states are the equivalent of Nazi Germany.

        Hermes

        November 10, 2016 at 6:03 pm

  8. OT: Seeking Alpha wrote that Trump is considering Jamie Dimon for Treasury Secretary

    map

    November 10, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    • …and he just appointed Chris Christie as one of his henchmen who is another fox guarding the chicken coop. Paul Ryan comes across as a snake, but these guys are outright thieves.

      This euphoria of Trump being elected will wane into a glum mood, once we see another deja vu episode of tepid economic growth and restive NAMs (who by the way are ill fitted for civilization). The only way to save America is the implementation of basic income for its middle class.

      JS

      November 10, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    • Christie? ugh.
      Dimon? He’s a POS.
      I hope this is not true.

      gothamette

      November 10, 2016 at 9:44 pm

  9. Wait til Donald starts building The Wall. California will be irate and try to leave in a California Exit vote in 2019.

    http://www.yescalifornia.org/

    This is something we should all support. It would give GOP control over America forever.

    Camp of the Saints

    November 10, 2016 at 12:36 pm

  10. Not just California, but Oregon and Washington should also secede

    CamelCaseRob

    November 10, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    • The blue parts. The eastern part of all three is pretty right-wing.

      J1

      November 10, 2016 at 4:48 pm

      • No, just California, and just the blue parts. It’s important to keep the Trump supporting richest farmland in the USA. LA and SF can go to hell.

        Rotten

        November 11, 2016 at 7:17 pm

  11. I really do like the idea of getting rid of CA, and if a serious secessionary movement starts there we should encourage it, but I don’t think it will happen.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 10, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    • Ahem, now that we, miraculously, and unexpectedly, control the levers of all this POWER! How do we deal with all the issues we’ve been bitching about for 20 years? Nay 50 years?

      We have four years to fix demographics enough to buy us another four years in 2020.

      What can be done about California? We need to make sure we have a solid 1-2 point advantage next time around. We are fighting the older voters dying out as well. The electoral college will preserve things for a while, but… Michigan and PA were won by a hair as were many other places.

      We need solutions people. Trump has his 100 day plan which should help. Cracking down on dem voter fraud and dem institutions should help, but all of the cultural changes will take a decade or more to happen. We need massive demographic change in the next 2-3 years.

      Maybe get more blue collar votes from Michigan (how did demographics break there?) by funneling even more federal project money to them (wow R’s using D strategies). Maybe encourage red voters to move from California to the new rural swing states?

      OldTimer

      November 10, 2016 at 4:10 pm

      • We don’t need demographic change, we need voter suppression/voter fraud and gerrymandering. It won’t work forever but it can buy us an extra 4 years by which time the changes will be irreversible.

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 10, 2016 at 4:33 pm

      • Pronatalism.

        Curle

        November 10, 2016 at 11:50 pm

  12. This would be more sensible than secession: http://www.sixcalifornias.com/

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    November 10, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    • I think the map of the whole country should be redrawn. But it won’t happen.

      gothamette

      November 10, 2016 at 11:29 pm

  13. OT, Lion, evangelicals were an enormous part of delivering this race to Trump.

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/10/ralph-reed-data-show-evangelicals-catholics-delivered-key-states-trump/

    Those guys turn out at a yooge rate and pull the lever for R at the rate that blacks pull the lever for D.

    Dan

    November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm

  14. The irony with the Canadian exit talk:

    “This guy is saying he wants to make America white again! I can’t take it. I’ll prove him wrong by moving to a much whiter place! One that has historically had Trump-like restrictions on unskilled immigration!”

    If you love diversity, you should move to a more diverse place. Brazil, perhaps.

    Wency

    November 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    • Correct, read my comments above. Much of Anglo Canada isn’t too different from the prole areas that voted for Trump, with the exception of being more orderly and finesse.

      JS

      November 10, 2016 at 4:10 pm

  15. Great! The entire left coast should secede and all the wealthy liberal centers of the Northeast should form a nexus with all the nearby chocolate ghettos.

    JS

    November 10, 2016 at 3:41 pm

  16. After every elections whiny liberals pull this same crap.
    FWIW, I am a south asian immigrant who voted for Hillary and neither me nor anyone I know would entertain this stupid proposal.
    1) I love living in southern California. 2) But I also love my US passport for hassle free, visa free (for most countries) travel around the world. Before my us citizenship foreign travel was a nuisance 4 me because of visas.

    Long story short, never mind whiny liberals.

    Wt

    November 10, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    • You voted for Hillary why, because you hate white people?

      Otis the Sweaty

      November 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm

      • Not particularly.

        Wt

        November 10, 2016 at 11:03 pm

      • then why did you vote for her? I honestly can’t think of any other reason to vote for Hillary besides being either hating white people or being a first rate cuck. Are you a cuck?

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 10, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    • The talk of Texas seceding is much louder and more consistent whenever a Democrat wins. It’s all just blowing off steam.

      Aric

      November 10, 2016 at 8:04 pm

      • Texas has a history of being an independent country so it makes sense that it would be more prevalent there. Same for the southern states. Peaceful secession is honestly a wonderful idea.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        November 10, 2016 at 11:49 pm

      • Well, wonderful, with just the little aside that it can never happen (peacefully).

        j k er

        November 12, 2016 at 10:06 pm

  17. Why give up all California? Just let Los Angeles country and the bay are secede. We can have the rest of that glorious state.

    Daniel

    November 10, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    • Agreed. It would be a shame to lose the landscapes. But the urban shitholes that liberals have fostered there should be cut out like the cancerous growths they are. Left to their own devices these places are not ‘sustainable’ despite all the mindless talk about sustainability.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      November 10, 2016 at 11:52 pm

  18. This discussion reminds me a little of the late Bill Hicks talking about his hope that a huge earthquake would destroy LA, leaving behind beautiful ‘Arizona Bay’.

    He was beloved by liberal Gen X’ers in Britain, where I believe he was/is more popular than in America, but I felt that British people got the wrong idea about him sometimes. It’s not hard to see racial overtones in his remarks about LA. Likewise there was his funny joke about that truck driver during the LA riots who stopped when a pack of blacks surrounded his truck and forced him out of his cab and beat the hell out of him (maybe killed him too, can’t remember)–Bill commenting, like many I’m sure–that he’d have just driven straight through them.

    prolier than thou

    November 10, 2016 at 6:27 pm

  19. I was thinking about the popular vote.

    Based on the data we have, we know that Trump lost 2.5% points of Romney votes, minimum, to Johnson and Egg McMuffin. They will be back next time, so the question becomes, how many additional Romney voters either didn’t vote or even voted for Hillary?

    I strongly believe that Trump can pull an additional 2 points from Hillary. That plus the missing Romney voters would give Trump a popular vote margin of 5.5 points.

    Now, next time the Democrats are going to run Cory Booker, who is almost as good a candidate as Obama was, so they are going to make up a huge percentage of that margin. The question for us is can we still keep our lead?

    What do you guys think? Obviously we are going to need massive voter fraud/suppression in FL, PA, MI and WI as well because we can’t lose those states. I’m pretty optimistic we will flip NH, though.

    Let the Dems have CO and NV, we can’t compete there.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 10, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    • Clinton got under 50% in both CO and NV, which means a majority of voters in those states weren’t really disturbed by the possibility of a Trump presidency. That suggests they’re persuadable if Trump does a good job.

      Richard

      November 10, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      • The Dems will be waaaaaay stronger in 4 years with gay Cory Booker. He is going to be very hard to beat.

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 10, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    • The Dems will lose millions of votes when illegals can no longer vote.

      Andrew E.

      November 10, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    • ” was thinking about the popular vote.”

      I’m glad you brought that up. Did you know that there are an additional 7M votes still uncounted?

      The idea of Giuliani, Christie & Gingrich around makes me want to puke. They are part of the swamp.

      gothamette

      November 10, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      • There’s no one like Trump. Giuliani, Christie, and Gingrich all supported and endorsed Trump when the rest of the GOPe only hated him. They deserve to be rewarded.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 10, 2016 at 9:49 pm

      • Christie, Giuliani and Gingrich are like Trump’s most prominent and most experienced supporters; who did you expect Trump to bring to Washington, Breitbart staffers?

        Gozo

        November 11, 2016 at 5:24 am

  20. California is Mexico by extension. Except it’s run by Scientologists, jews, and Protestants.

    Big Humpa

    November 10, 2016 at 9:43 pm

  21. It would probably be better for everyone if they do. California would probably do OK independent. They have a lot of high IQ elites in Silicone Valley, a lot of high IQ East Asian immigrants. And they have a very hard working underclass (Mexicans), and very few welfare dependent blacks to eat up all the state resources. The USA would never vote in a Democrat again without California, and Mexico would also benefit by getting an affluent trade partner. Trump would just have to build a longer wall.

    DataExplorer

    November 11, 2016 at 9:19 am

    • You can suck up their entire GDP by charging them punitive rates for water.

      map

      November 11, 2016 at 8:03 pm


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