Lion of the Blogosphere

Trump’s immigration enforcement, dream come true

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Trump-hating commenters used to say that Trump’s immigration plan was bullsh**, that it would never happen, even if he was elected he’d pivot and do nothing.

Well it looks like people who said that were dead wrong. From everything I’ve read during the last two days, Trump is preparing to implement an anti-immigration plan that I could only have dreamed about. Senator Jeff Sessions, the most anti-immigration person in the Senate, will probably be on Trump’s cabinet (although as Secretary of Defense), and Trump brought on hardline anti-immigration activist and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (who is called a racist by left-winger) to be on his immigration policy transition team. It looks like on day one, all of Obama’s executive actions telling the federal law enforcement agencies to not enforce the immigration laws, to release illegal aliens they catch, etc, will all be reversed.

Remember that Congress doesn’t have to do anything. Illegal immigrants are already illegal, and there is already a lot of well funded federal law enforcement agencies, not least U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security. All they need is the directive to start enforcing the laws again, and every single indication is that Trump is going to give the order on day one.

The only thing he needs from Congress is more funding. All indications are is that he is going to ask for funding to build the wall. Will the Republican-controlled Congress deny him that funding when he has a mandate from the voters to build the wall?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 11, 2016 at 9:39 am

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  1. There should be automated garing gun turrets on the wall. Infra red scanning. Possibly even armed drones.

    Copy israel basically.

    The Philosopher

    November 11, 2016 at 9:59 am

    • In Israel I guess 90-95 of the people agrees with the thing. Here in the USA we are mayeb 50-50%.
      And all opinion setting forces, from the media to “celebrities” are against.

      Fred Reed, who’s turned into a pro-Mexican activist, made a wishful list of reasons why illegal immigration won’t be stopped.

      Ron Unz argues that cutting down legal immigration would be much more effective than stemming the illegal flux, and thinks the Democrat would agree to this in exchange for the already-in illegals receiving amnesty.

      Let’s wait and see. I think there is going to see little changes.

      P O

      November 12, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  2. Trump is doing it! He’s showing us ALL how it’s done.

    All that’s needed is the uncompromising confidence and will to do what is right and NOT be afraid of the crying/violence of all those demented Leftists and POCs. Never worry about the opinions of your enemies.

    The wall *will* be built. Criminals *will* be deported. Employers *will* be punished for illegal hiring/h1b cheap labor.

    And even before all these things are completed, you will see millions of invaders self-deport because they see that America is not kidding around anymore. The fear our enemies make is far less than their actual worth; they will scatter like roaches when good stands up for itself forcefully.

    *This* is how it’s done. If this kind of attitude and action is sustained, it’s not a joke that the 19th can be repealed and that anything is possible. Game theory rules all. Alt. Right/Manosphere vindicated.

    THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING!

    fakeemail

    November 11, 2016 at 10:07 am

  3. Trump can and almost certainly will undo all Obama’s executive actions on immigration. The question is will he really try to reduce the number of people in the country illegally?

    The immigration service will need to be expanded and/or other existing law enforcement organizations trained for and tasked with enforcing immigration law. That will require action from Congress and it will take some time.

    The real question is will Trump go after vigorous work place enforcement. I know here in Calif large percentages of the illegals have forged green cards. Employers today are required to verify workers right to work, but they are not required to verify the documents employees show them, only to make copies of them. There is the E-Verify system, but employers are not currently required to use it. Will Trump make E-Verify mandatory and go after employers that refuse to use it.

    Making E-Verify mandatory would have a much larger effect on reducing illegals in the US than building a wall on the border. In my mind building a wall on the Mexican border is just a symbolic act to look tough on immigration without really being tough on immigration. Making E-Verify mandatory will cause business to scream about added regulations and paper work, but what the truth is many of the business like the low wages. They know they would have to pay workers more if they were forced to use E-Verify.

    So will Trump really try to reduce illegals or is he going to just waste tax payer money building symbolic walls?

    mikeca

    November 11, 2016 at 10:18 am

    • Thanks for the concern trolling, Mike. Of course Trump will do everything in his power to reduce illegal immigration.

      He will without doubt make E-Verify mandatory. I mean, Jesus. Why don’t you go back to arguing that Hillary didn’t get rid of 30K emails?

      The main thing he’ll do is take the shackles off enforcement, and hire more people. Hey, it’s a job program. I’m sure there are many folks with Spanish surnames will will line up around the block to do it. Blacks too.

      Please try to say something constructive, instead of trolling.

      gothamette

      November 11, 2016 at 11:17 am

      • Trump’s transition team is already writing E-verity legislation to send to Congress. http://www.bna.com/trumps-immigration-list-n57982082673/

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 11, 2016 at 11:21 am

      • E-verify is the easiest and most effective thing we can do to control illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is enabled by employers and upper class people who want cheap labor. It also is humane as it will cause immigrants to leave voluntarily.

        We need e-verify, end benefits for illegal aliens, and end sanctuary cities. I bet a log illegal immigrants will self-deport.

        Jimi

        November 11, 2016 at 11:40 am

      • Between not being able to work, and having to live in the shadows because Trump will do away with de-facto amnesty through non-enforcement of any immigration laws, you bet they will want to self-deport.

        I would advise Trump to hasten that with a modified real amnesty: if they turn themselves in, we will forgive them for breaking our laws and we will give them free transport to their home country, and even give them some pocket money (like maybe two hundred dollars).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 11, 2016 at 11:43 am

      • In addition to e-verify, I’d like to see law enforcement empowered to check and arrest illegals for ICE. Years ago, congress passed a law forbidding local police from doing that.

        destructure

        November 11, 2016 at 12:08 pm

      • He can also end sanctuary cities with the stroke of a pen. I don’t think they are only symbolic, although even if they were, that would be enough.

        There will be a lot of crying and theatrics, but ending sanctuary cities will be a moment of pure triumph for the rule of law.

        Let Madonna and Amy Schumer declare their homes sanctuary homes. I believe a man or woman’s home is their castle. Only problem is when the illegal leaves Madonna’s home. It’ll be like Julian Assange living in the Ecuadorian embassy.

        gothamette

        November 11, 2016 at 12:21 pm

      • I view E-verify as a sort of test if Republicans are serious about immigration. It is good to see Trump is planning to address this. The question is can he twist enough Republican arms to get it passed. Business groups will strongly oppose it.

        mikeca

        November 11, 2016 at 12:24 pm

      • Trump’s transition team is already writing E-verity legislation to send to Congress.

        Stephen Miller is also positioned to serve as a senior advisor.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 12, 2016 at 9:18 am

      • Great news! I just hope he’s inaugurated.

        gothamette

        November 13, 2016 at 7:56 am

      • Is there a twitter list of us NYC LOTB readers?

        Melchizidek

        November 13, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    • E-verify and actually enforcing the immigration laws on the books should be sufficient to get rid of a lot of our immigrant problem.
      Will we still get a wall? I hope so. It will create a lot of jobs just doing that alone.

      Panther of the Blogocube

      November 12, 2016 at 12:55 am

  4. Immigration is the easiest promise to keep and Trump will keep it. My Tajik congratulated me on Trump’s victory. He looks very dejected though. He is a smart guy and senses that the end is coming. I sense it too. It’s realy very easy and once it’s done everyone will look back and bless Trump.

    Yakov

    November 11, 2016 at 10:26 am

    • If the government can’t get you to pay taxes how is it going to prevent you from hiring an illegal immigrant?

      Magnavox

      November 11, 2016 at 7:34 pm

      • You are TruCon scum.

        Trump isn’t going to bother with going after people like Yakov, just the big employers of illegals. That’s all he needs to do.

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 12, 2016 at 2:22 am

      • Magnavox, pay attention. This has been explained numerous times. Tajik works using a taxid as the form of identity. If the company has to use e-verify, he and all his relatives become unemplyable.
        Pay good attention because this is the last time I’m explaining this.

        It won’t stop me personally from hiring an illegal Afrikaneer because they are the good hombres that the country needs, or at least this is what I think.

        Yakov

        November 12, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    • What kind of bounty would they have to offer for you to turn in your Tajik?

      Magnavox

      November 11, 2016 at 7:34 pm

      • Snitches get stitches. I don’t Betty people’s trust.

        Yakov

        November 12, 2016 at 7:51 pm

      • “Snitches get stitches” isn’t part of any religion I’ve ever heard of. It’s a threat made by criminals.

        destructure

        November 12, 2016 at 11:37 pm

      • Jewish Law allows killing of informers without warning. It wouldn’t apply in this case though.

        Yakov

        November 13, 2016 at 6:54 am

  5. Really getting on the right track requires paying people to renounce citizenship and revoking permanent residency status. But overall there are good indications on immigration bad indications on economic populism

    Magnavox

    November 11, 2016 at 10:46 am

  6. “The only thing he needs from Congress is more funding. All indications are is that he is going to ask for funding to build the wall. Will the Republican-controlled Congress deny him that funding when he has a mandate from the voters to build the wall?”

    Actually I thought funding was approved years ago but it the discretion of the President how the funds are used and I think its always been channeled to more the “hi tech virtual fence” and more over time for border guards.

    Lion of the Turambar

    November 11, 2016 at 10:47 am

  7. Eh, Sessions was good in the Senate, singlehandedly stopping a flood of immigration insanity.

    I’d rather he stayed there.

    Dan

    November 11, 2016 at 10:53 am

    • This is a good point; the same thought crossed my mind as well. I think you also have to consider, though, that Sessions isn’t immortal and that you’re going to need a new generation of senators to stop the insanity eventually. Alabama’s a red state and the Trump victory is still fresh so I would think the chances of electing a replacement in the same vein would be good.

      I’m not up on Alabama politics these days, though, so I don’t know who the leading candidates would be.

      Jokah Macpherson

      November 11, 2016 at 11:15 am

      • Yeah, Sessions is 69. He could do another decade in the senate or he could do eight years in a Trump administration. I think that he would be more valuable in the latter.

        Spoons

        November 11, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    • Senator Jeff Sessions, the most anti-immigration person in the Senate, will probably be on Trump’s cabinet (although as Secretary of Defense)

      I really wish people would stop attempting to pull Jeff Sessions out of the Senate. People have said make him VP as well.

      We need MORE like him in the Congress not less!

      Rifleman

      November 11, 2016 at 12:05 pm

      • If he WANTS a reward from Trump, he deserves it.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 11, 2016 at 12:11 pm

      • Make him the next head and/or a subhead of the Committee on Appropriations.

        Glengarry

        November 11, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      • Jeff Sessions is my favorite Senator. His views match mine closer than anyone else. He is not only good on immigration. For example, he was a rare Republican who was passionately against the TPP from the start. While I hate to lose him in the Senate the fact that Trump wants him in his administration is a very good sign.

        Jay Fink

        November 11, 2016 at 2:46 pm

      • “Jeff Sessions is my favorite Senator. His views match mine closer than anyone else.”

        And to top it off, he’s from Alabama, the greatest state!

        Jokah Macpherson

        November 11, 2016 at 3:59 pm

  8. Now I’m worried all the illegals will come to Canada and claim asylum. And our useful idiot prime minister (who is dumb as a sack of hammers) will welcome them with open arms and give them free housing and health care, etc.

    Rosenmops

    November 11, 2016 at 10:57 am

  9. Lion,

    Your arrogance is literally astounding. You got Trump right, but you don’t seem to be aware of the fact that opposition to Trump is solidifying.

    First, the Democrats and some Never Trump Republicans might mount a faithless elector challenge to his presidency.

    Harry Reid has just called him a sexual predator, who has lost the popular vote.

    It’s crucially important that Trump win the popular vote, which he just might, when all the votes are counted.

    I agree with you about the issues, esp. illegal immigration, but you are not seeing reality right now. Come down to earth.

    gothamette

    November 11, 2016 at 11:11 am

    • lolwut? Come on, Hillary concended and he’s already been with Obama in the White House. It’s over.

      IHTG

      November 11, 2016 at 11:32 am

    • If Trump pulled off the elections, he can do the immigration. Immigration is the easiest, the most common sense issue. My salary is gonna go up like 25% or who knows? Back in Israel I had a freind who became a stone cutter. He used to say that once the Arabs are removed his trade would be one of the most valuable. He switched to welding later though, but mates after cutting stones for a couple of years he was muscular! Masonry is a good trade. You take these mountains that have been sitting g around for who knows how long and you make buildings out of them. Yeah, this is pretty awesome. Why didn’t I do with him then? I think working with stone is very noble and at the same time primeval. Better then sitting by a desk starring at stock quotes all day. Anyway, let’s see what happens here. Very exciting times to live in.

      Yakov

      November 11, 2016 at 11:40 am

    • Such faithless electors will need to have their business jet to Qatar on standby when they vote. Their only reward on this side of the ocean shall be the rope.

      Glengarry

      November 11, 2016 at 12:28 pm

  10. For better or worse losing the popular vote is not going to really allow any of his positions to be considered a “mandate.” A mandate for a segment of the populace, yes, but not really a mandate in the broader, nation-wide sense.

    Thathmew

    November 11, 2016 at 11:15 am

    • With California’s massive number of popular votes, heavily lopsided towards Democrats, It will be be difficult for any Republican to win the popular vote again and near impossible to win it by mandate margins. This should not stop Trump( or any future Republican President) from implementing the agenda he ran on and won on.

      I also think it is extremely important for Republicans to defend and protect the electoral college. If it ever goes away, we will have one party Democrat rule (in the Executive branch) for the rest of time.

      Jay Fink

      November 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    • The mandate is in the powers of the office. Bush lost the popular vote and won the Electoral College more narrowly and divisively than Trump did, but expectations that this would damage Bush’s ability to govern because he had no “popular mandate” didn’t materialize. He just did what we wanted to do, and left it to the public to decide whether they approved in upcoming elections.

      Richard

      November 11, 2016 at 9:53 pm

  11. We can only hope that Trump continues to fight and troll the media all the way through and NOT compromise with them, as they will be his main opposition force. He should do interviews with guys like Steve Sailer for ever one he does with CNN.

    Steven Johnson

    November 11, 2016 at 11:30 am

  12. We don’t need a damn wall. We need to throw a few dozen businessmen (from Wall Street to Main Street) in jail, for breaking the law (the current law).

    Some Guy

    November 11, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    • The Trump Wall is awesome. I can’t wait for the Trump Wall.

      Ann Coulter is right, let’s make it a tourist attraction.

      Andrew E.

      November 11, 2016 at 1:46 pm

  13. I know! Right!

    Big Humpa

    November 11, 2016 at 12:09 pm

  14. I knew Trump was the real deal. But its reassuring to see him taking steps to enact what he promised. I’m also finding some of the concern trolls and naysayers here irritating. The only thing standing in the way of border enforcement was that previous presidents didn’t want to do anything about it. Not that it can’t be improved if congress passed the right laws. But I think the voters sent them a wake-up call. This wasn’t just a wake-up call to the Dems but the GOP as well. The GOP congress may have done well but they know it was because of Trump. These professional politicians and protesters better not cross the line. Because they don’t know what they’re messing with.

    destructure

    November 11, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    • ” I’m also finding some of the concern trolls and naysayers here irritating.”

      I ignore concern trolls of both sides. I ignore right wing concern trolls who cluck their tongues and tell leftists not to burn and loot. I love it when leftists burn and loot.

      But it’s not concern trolling to point out that not having a popular majority is a problem. It’s not naysaying to point out that when the other side gets its shit together (which I concede may be never) they might actually try to mount a faithless elector challenge to Trump’s presidency.

      If they do, it’s civil war, and I’m just saying be prepared.

      One of the things Trump should do is change the crazy way the Electors are apportioned. Did you know that they are apportioned based on total population, which includes non-citizens? If CA’s real only citizen population were counted, they would have 5 less Electors. Google this, I’m right.

      gothamette

      November 11, 2016 at 12:26 pm

      • Neither Trump nor Clinton will get a mathematical majority of the American vote. smiling

        cesqy

        November 11, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      • I wasn’t lumping you in with the concern trolls and naysayers. Regarding your comment, there have been 2 elections out of the last 5 where the candidate who won the electoral vote lost the popular vote. In this case, it looks like the difference in popular vote may only be fractions of a percent. If there’s a serious attempt to overturn the results it will create a constitutional crisis. At which point there are only three alternatives. First, it’s shut down. Second, it gets violent. And third, it’s successful. But I just don’t see the military standing by while the Democrats stage a coup. Not only are they sworn to uphold the constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic but they don’t like the Democrats to start with. Democrats know this. Which is why I don’t think they’ll launch a faithless elector challenge.

        destructure

        November 11, 2016 at 1:22 pm

      • Relax. The people who get appointed to be Electors are party hacks, not “muh principles” ideologues. And Trump has a massive lead in the Electors. He’d need to lose 37 of 306 electors, and it’s just not going to happen. Paul Ryan has been very complimentary of Trump, so there’s no groundswell for the NeverTrumpers to pull off what they failed to do at the Republican Convention when they had more wind in their sails.

        Richard

        November 11, 2016 at 9:59 pm

  15. Trump actually has the smarts not to stab his voters in the back but fulfil his premier promise rapidly and thoroughly, in a manner that might even be called “businesslike”? The GOPe just can’t believe their eyes. Very dangerous strategy, they mutter. Reckless. For the love of spirit cooking, what about the donors?

    Glengarry

    November 11, 2016 at 12:36 pm

    • The donors, yes… what obligations does Trump have?

      Seriously — The special interests were lined up against him. Thiel made a donation but he is one of us. There’s Sheldon Adelstein but I think his concern was mainly Israel. Trump likes Israel anyway, so no surprises there.

      Any special interests? I can’t thin of any. Trump didn’t spend that much in the election.

      Dan

      November 11, 2016 at 2:36 pm

      • It’s the end of democracy as we know it.

        Glengarry

        November 11, 2016 at 5:08 pm

      • I think he’s going to push a lot of crackpot right wing economics (have you seen his tax plan?). Whether or not he’s doing it for donors or principles isn’t really relevant.

        Magnavox

        November 11, 2016 at 7:32 pm

  16. Trump has hardly any ties to big donors:

    Its mostly regular folks like you and me:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-money-idUSKCN11R0N7

    Big donors were lined up against him, with the exception of Adelson, and Adelson I can live with.

    Dan

    November 11, 2016 at 2:45 pm

  17. Only issue for me is that I don’t want Sessions in the cabinet. The weak link in immigration reform is the Congress. Sessions needs to be there not to draft and introduce the legislation itself, but to keep an eye on it as it moves through Congress where it will be subject to multiple attacks by Big Government trying to introduce amendments to gut the bill.

    PerezHBD

    November 11, 2016 at 3:59 pm

  18. Nate Silver: Wall only visible from low earth orbit.

    Glengarry

    November 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm

  19. Trump should hire inner city black men to beef up ICE.

    1. Gives blacks useful government jobs that can never be rescinded without blowback.

    2. Turns the coalition of the fringes against itself

    Melchizidek

    November 12, 2016 at 12:32 am

  20. End birthright citizenship.

    Trump should hire inner city black men to beef up ICE.

    1. Gives blacks useful government jobs that can never be rescinded without blowback.

    2. Turns the coalition of the fringes against itself

    Melchizidek

    November 12, 2016 at 1:05 am

    • I hope they get rid of that law where religious denominations are paid to resettle immigrants and refugees. And if they knowingly shelter illegals they should lose their tax exempt status.

      destructure

      November 12, 2016 at 3:59 pm

  21. I’ve long suspected that Americanized working and middle-class Hispanics would rather have less immigration (that is, after their family members have all arrived). These folks just aren’t vocal about it. For them, less immigration means less competition for jobs, benefits, housing, etc.

    Florida Today, 11/12/16 – Hispanic surge for Trump?

    http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/12/gov-scott-says-working-trump/93753112/

    It might be hard to imagine but Donald Trump appears to have won Florida partly due to a late surge of Hispanic support. Two reliable surveys conducted earlier this year showed anemic support for the bombastic billionaire whose incendiary comments about Mexicans and deportations drew scorn from Latino officials and their allies.

    In late April, an Associated Industries of Florida poll had the real estate mogul’s support among Latinos at 10 percent. By early August, that had ticked up slightly to around 13 percent, according to a poll by New Latino Voice.

    On Tuesday, exit polls showed Trump’s Hispanic support had more than doubled during the past three months to more than 30 percent. That’s a difference of more than 200,000 votes, well more than the 120,000-vote margin by which he won the state. It’s another example of how Trump seems to have upended conventional wisdom.

    First, he fell far short of the 47 percent threshold of the Hispanic vote that pundits last year said the GOP nominee – whoever that turned out to be – would need to win Florida.

    Second, support among Latino voters actually grew in the weeks before the election despite predictions that a surge in Hispanic voter registrations spelled doom for his campaign.

    E. Rekshun

    November 13, 2016 at 1:11 pm


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