Lion of the Blogosphere

New York Times non-apology

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Much has been made about the NY Times letter to its readers. It has been called an apology, but it doesn’t seem like much of an apology to me when it contains this line:

We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

Sounds to me like “we did nothing wrong and get prepared for more Trump-bashing.”

Nicholas Kristof has a column in today’s NY Times:

As I’ve argued for most of this year, I think we in the mainstream media — especially cable television — sometimes bungled coverage of Trump. There was too much uncritical television coverage of Trump because he was good for ratings; then there was not enough investigation of his business dealings, racism and history of sexual assaults, and too much false equivalency that equated the two candidates as equally flawed.

In other words, Kristof is saying “the only thing we did wrong is that we weren’t biased enough against Trump.”

Of course, Kristof only writes for himself and not the management of the news organization that pays him for his column, but I strongly suspect that the majority of journalists at the NY Times share Kristof’s worldview.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 13, 2016 at 1:34 pm

Posted in News, Politics

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  1. I am pretty sure there was just this type of post mortem hand wringing in the WaPo regarding their McCain coverage but the reality is it is just a fig leaf and I expect this current round is too.

    There is no way (assuming they even had the inclination) they can do anything at this point other than feed their audience the type of reassuring news they want to click on. There are plenty of leaks in the grey lady’s boat and trying to call balls and strikes fairly at this point would be a shot below the water line. The Times grimly notes that cancelled subscriptions are ” something that will surely be monitored”.

    Lion of the Turambar

    November 13, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    • Hey Turambar, are you happy with the result of the election?

      Two in the Bush

      November 13, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      • There is plenty to dislike in both possible outcomes; now one of them will never come to pass so assessing relative weights becomes harder.

        I always said that Trump should have stayed off the stage as much as possible to let people realize how much they dislike Hillary and to envision all of the delightful ramifications of her losing. Well he didnt follow that advice but I think the news clips of her screeched responses to his jibes in the last two weeks really made people question whether they could take four years of her on their television sets.

        The “results” have been nothing if not entertaining. Like Patton Oswald’s twitter feed. Or Nicholas Tassim’s. Or the Javits Center’s ridiculous (and expensive) glass ceiling nonsense being a wet squib. Or what is likely Hillary’s last public act being a faked “chance encounter” hiking photo with a woman who turns out to be a donor. Kind of perfectly summarizes her career of fake authenticity.

        Then there is the outcome that I predicted- the Dems’ barely held it together this long and they no longer have a bench. Well they have a bench and it is being used by the frail top party grandees like Pelosi, Biden, Schumer (65), Moonbeam(78), Sanders and Warren (66). Not only is there a age schism, but the Dem’s are facing a Socialist schism. Which frankly most of them want to be anyway. But clearly a lot of Dems are going to tack Left because if nothing else you can raise at least a cool $100M from gullibles if you explain the system is rigged and the only solution is for them to give their money and time to your campaign.

        The Democrats could be headed to an era of Corbynization. Kerry could have been the last white guy they ever nominate, and frankly the pale and frail Warren will probably do as well Hillary so might as well narrow the field to Harris, Booker and some Hispanics.

        On the other hand we dont know what will happen to Trump. You can easily imagine that he will fall victim to his ineptness or narcissism or a death by a thousand cuts of media nit picking. The media love to fret about “over reach”- it might be that or it might be “disillusioned voters” that he didnt act on his bold promises.

        In fact any future Greg Packers who want to get time on tv should send out a media kit touting them as “disillusioned Trump voters” and they will get plenty attention.

        Lion o' the Turambar

        November 13, 2016 at 5:10 pm

  2. The proper response is to point out that the racialist Left, i.e. the rightful heirs of the Democrat party, despises Kristof as a Third World-parachuting White Knight – i.e. he is just as bad as the deplorables; none of his virtue signaling will save his bacon with that crowd.

    https://www.nytexaminer.com/2012/01/kristof-and-the-rescue-industry-the-soft-side-of-imperialism/

    Fiddlesticks

    November 13, 2016 at 1:52 pm

  3. I actually agree that there wasn’t much investigation of his business dealings, but I suspect that was because they realized quickly (after Trump U?) that those stories weren’t “sticking” in terms of hurting his popularity.

    IHTG

    November 13, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    • I actually agree that there wasn’t much investigation of his business dealings, but I suspect that was because they realized quickly (after Trump U?) that those stories weren’t “sticking” in terms of hurting his popularity.

      Hillary’s team of opposition researchers literally used everything they had against Trump – by the campaign’s final week they had nothing left to distract from Comey’s restart of the investigation.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 13, 2016 at 2:44 pm

      • That really surprised me. With Trump’s long public career I felt sure there had to be stuff in stockpile, but it turns out the Billy Bush tape was as bad as it got. That actually speaks well of Trump.

        Richard

        November 13, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    • Ironically, Trump was fortunate the Republican establishment attacked him so ferociously in the primary. By the time of the conventions #NeverTrump had already exhausted most of the attacks Hillary would have made.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 13, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      • One of the benefits of a vicious primary is that, by the time the general comes along, the base has already been galvanized and can’t be swayed.

        destructure

        November 13, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      • TUJ, I think your eternal optimism swayed the election!! Seriously though, the positivity of you and a few others on here made me feel a lot better in the final week…

        Camlost

        November 13, 2016 at 6:21 pm

      • With Trump’s long public career I felt sure there had to be stuff in stockpile, but it turns out the Billy Bush tape was as bad as it got. That actually speaks well of Trump.

        Trump university was a potentially worse issue than that tape, which itself wasn’t much grosser than his interviews with Howard Stern. But by Fall the lawsuit against Trump U was already factored into public opinion.

        One of the benefits of a vicious primary is that, by the time the general comes along, the base has already been galvanized and can’t be swayed.

        And one’s primary opponents have used up opposition research that would have been saved for the end by a general election opponent.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 13, 2016 at 7:25 pm

      • Seriously though, the positivity of you and a few others on here made me feel a lot better in the final week…

        The evidence was there, it was just a matter of putting everything together in the analysis.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 13, 2016 at 7:48 pm

      • The evidence was there, it was just a matter of putting everything together in the analysis.

        Yeah, but who knew what the believe with so much BS out there. I think the MSM probably got a lot of lukewarm but likely Trump voters to stay home thinking it was a lost cause.

        Camlost

        November 13, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    • No- there was a late “Trump is not as rich as he says” article by the Times where they assigned 6 reporters to produce a boring story about boring accounting details.

      It had no resonance since Alies and Conway were forcing him to stay on message on not run after every piece of bait.

      Lion of the Turambar

      November 13, 2016 at 3:33 pm

  4. Has everybody read this article by a N Y Times veteran who says the editors choose a narrative for the next YEAR and then the reporters spend their time cherry picking evidence to fit that narrative?

    http://deadline.com/2016/11/shocked-by-trump-new-york-times-finds-time-for-soul-searching-1201852490/

    Gozo

    November 13, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    • Someone should ask them what’s the story arc for 2017. I no longer have the patience and self-abnegation required for NYT myself.

      Glengarry

      November 13, 2016 at 4:00 pm

      • This will be their story arc for 2017:

        Rosenmops

        November 13, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    • That was a pretty credible article.

      And I wonder what all these slack channels look like. Someone shoudl hack that echo chamber.

      Lion o' the Turambar

      November 13, 2016 at 5:11 pm

  5. Are you surprised? It’s what I’d expect. The left has nothing to do with empathy, equality, free speech, tolerance and all the other things they pay lip service to. They’re waging war to impose their radical agenda on America and the world. And the NYT supports it.

    destructure

    November 13, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    • Oh they believe in all of those things, when it suits their purposes. And they enjoy imposing it on the right when it suits their purposes. If you challenge them on it, they say, “punching up”

      ScarletNumber

      November 13, 2016 at 2:38 pm

  6. Some on the right are calling it an apology for propaganda purposes, I assume. It does damage the New York Times if the only thing the average person reads is the headline. As Trump knows, apologizing just makes you look weaker and proves your bad intent.

    Richard

    November 13, 2016 at 2:25 pm

  7. OT: Ryan, Kevin McCarthy already loudly cucking out on immigration and trade.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-obamacare-deportation-force/index.html

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/13/house-leader-mccarthy-gop-will-repeal-obamacare-put-up-wall.html

    The “virtual fence” was suggested. Trump needs to suggest they become virtual congressmen.

    snorlax

    November 13, 2016 at 2:27 pm

  8. The Times shouldn’t care who wins if they are truly neutral. Just about all MSM is upset that Trump won, so that shows their bias.

    ttgy

    November 13, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    • That pretty much sums up their feelings of Trump. Many are still in denial that he is Mr. President elected.

      On the night of election day, well in to the wee hours of the night, ABC was still showing Trump in the process of winning, while PBS has clearly announced his victory. Those damn bastards.

      JS

      November 13, 2016 at 10:55 pm

  9. Nicholas Kristof is feeling a surge of adrenaline because he just tackled a 58 year old homeless man.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20161113_NYT_columnist_chases__nabs_alleged_thief_in_Philadelphia.html

    Richard

    November 13, 2016 at 2:29 pm

  10. That cuck piece of scum Ryan just said that deportation isn’t a priority. Why doesn’t he just admit he want open borders? That way we can lynch him.

    The Philosopher

    November 13, 2016 at 4:15 pm

  11. It’s very easy to build the wall actually. Arrest the illegals, sentence them to a few years of forced labor and put them to build the wall.

    Ryan still doesn’t understand that Trump is for real.

    Yakov

    November 13, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    • I like the way you think.

      Rosenmops

      November 13, 2016 at 7:03 pm

  12. All apologies suck. Just one more reason you should never apologize.

    Jokah Macpherson

    November 13, 2016 at 5:14 pm

  13. I’m not worried at all about Congressmen cucking out because they have no power. Most of the immigration stuff, wall included, Trump can do by himself. While technically Ryan and Co *could* stop E-Verify, it would be politically suicidal for them to do so.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm

  14. Kristof has always been a hypocrite. Business dealings? How about Whitewater, the phantom commodity trades, the Rose law firm billing records or the entire Clinton foundation mega-scam? Sexual assaults? Are we talking about Bill Clinton and his number one defender here? And racism? Oh wicked, wicked Trump! Let’s just ignore these examples of racist remarks by the Clintons.

    This election has hit the MSM like a nuclear blast. The Podesta emails have exposed them as mere lackeys to the DNC, and their ability to influence opinion has shrunk to almost nothing. About time.

    Black Death

    November 14, 2016 at 1:35 pm


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