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Pretty in Pink

Although there is a lot of quintessential eightiesness here, I found it boring. As you may recall, I love the movie St. Elmo’s Fire. I suppose that St. Elmo’s Fire is a movie that gets better with age, while you have to be a teenager to love Pretty in Pink.

Pretty in Pink is one of the three eighties movies cited in the song 1985 by Bowling for Soup, along with St. Elmo’s Fire and The Breakfast Club, even though this movie was actually released in 1986. Yeah, there’s the weirdness of Andrew McCarthy playing a college graduate in St. Elmo’s Fire, and then a year later he’s playing a high school senior.

This movie features the following great eightiesness:

1. Molly Ringwald
2. Andrew McCarthy
3. Andrew Dice Clay as the bouncer at the bar where Molly Ringwald’s character hangs out after work with her thirty-something coworker.
4. A record store, full of vinyl records.
5. A telephone with a rotary dial.
6. Lots of great eighties hair! I really wish the hairstylists for the show The Americans would watch this movie and learn what eighties hair looks like.
7. Lots of great eighties music.

We’re supposed to believe that someone as beautiful as Molly Ringwald was when she was seventeen doesn’t have a date for the prom. The explanation presented in the movie is that Molly Ringwald goes to a high school that’s extremely class conscious, and she is ostracized by the rest of the high school because she’s poor and wears dorky clothes while everyone else in the high school is rich. And there’s also the fact that every girl in this high school is beautiful, and they all have perfectly coiffed eighties hair.

There’s this friend-zoned beta-male “Ducky” who follows Molly Ringwald around like a puppy dog. Until he discovers that she agreed to go out with Andrew MCarthy, and then Ducky rages with anger.

The movie manages to make Ducky so annoying that probably no one watching the movie really feels much sympathy for him. But it’s still not very fair that his loyalty to Molly Ringwald is never rewarded. He’s such a cuck that he falls on his sword at the end. Yes, he finally seems to luck out and against all odds wins Molly Ringwald for his prom partner, but when Andrew McCarthy comes by to apologize to Ms. Ringwald, he pushes her to go after McCarthy.

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Yes, it’s a very white movie: not a single token non-white character. Today, you couldn’t have a movie without a minority character.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm

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  1. Andrew Dice Clay is perhaps the first wannabe guido on tv, and perhaps the 1st Jew to portray himself as such, outside of the Godfather-Mafioso realm. He was tacky though.


    November 14, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    • The guy Bowzer from Sha Na Na is Jewish and “played” the part of a guido in his group. Henry Winkler is Jewish and played the Italian guido Fonzie. These are just the two I can think of now, there are probably a lot more. I heard once that someone said Andrew Dice Clay was the opposite of Joey Buottafuco – a fake Italian in real leather!

      Herr Icane

      November 15, 2016 at 8:38 am

      • Jewish Rhea Pearlman played guidette Carla on Cheers. The hottie Kevin James was oddly married to on King of Queens is half Jewish/half Ital I think and played a full guidette.


        November 15, 2016 at 10:32 am

      • Oddly when pondering this topic, I thought for sure Penny Marshall would qualify since her brother was a TV writer (what’s more Jewish than that?) and she played guidette Laverne DeFasio. But turns out she’s apparently not Jewish. …………….But an interesting thing when I checked Wiki to find this out, the little song- chant they did during opening credits (shlameel, schlamozzel) was a Jewish kid’s chant but they were supposedly playing women of Italian and I guess Irish (Shirley Feeney) heritage.


        November 15, 2016 at 10:52 am

      • Rodney Dangerfield?


        November 15, 2016 at 3:18 pm

      • Dean Martin?


        November 15, 2016 at 3:19 pm

      • It’s true that Jews have a significantly amount of Southern European ancestry. Genetic tests indicate that Jews cluster around Eastern Mediterranean populations like the Greeks and Anatolian Turks, and are more distant from Italians.

        Andrew Dice Clay and Rhea Perlman don’t look Italian. Not at all. They are more Greek in appearance. And some Italians are descended from Greeks. The same with Barbara Streisand. There isn’t anything Italian about Ms. Streisand.

        Furthermore, Jews are broad shouldered and physically more robust than Italians. All Eastern Mediterranean groups are generally bigger and stockier than Italians.


        November 15, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    • The European part of Ashkenazi Jews is mostly Italian…


      November 15, 2016 at 10:54 am

  2. Originally Ducky got Ringwald. It didn’t test well and was reshot.

    JW Bell

    November 14, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    • Yes, I’ve heard that. Totally unrealistic. Was a good change.

      Eightesness is awesome. More of these please.

      Andrew E.

      November 15, 2016 at 12:38 am

  3. The 1980s really showed me how much Hollywood really fucking HATES America. Everything in the Brat Pack may as well come from an alternate universe. The Burbs had no class issues at all. I know, I was there. Sure there were cliques and groups, but the Burbs was the most equal and friendly area of America. The City was bright lights, fake friends and hatred masked as class struggles. When I went to the Urban Blight Zones, no one liked niggers or diversity, but it was masked as some class or poverty issue. The Burbs was maligned constantly by Hollywood. Hollywood wants everyone to believe the Burbs are an empty, boring materialistic consumer culture. Uh, no. That’s the City, man.

    Joshua Sinistar

    November 15, 2016 at 12:07 am

  4. “We’re supposed to believe that someone as beautiful as Molly Ringwald was when she was seventeen doesn’t have a date for the prom.”

    And the ’90s gave us Rachael Leigh Cook in She’s All That, the 2000’s gave us Emma Stone in The House Bunny…

    …no one ever went broke selling makeover fantasies to young girls.


    November 15, 2016 at 12:22 am

  5. It has one of my favorite movie lines, when Blaine asks “Steff” (Spader) if all he cares about is money. Spader resonds, “Look around you. Would I treat my parent’s house like this if money was any kind of issue?”


    November 15, 2016 at 1:20 am

  6. You know, one interesting thing about this whole re-ascendance of the Bernie wing is that for many on the Left, free trade has become just as sacrosanct as open borders. Comment on neogaf:

    “The protectionist approach is very literally “Got Mine, F*** You” on the global scale. I thought, we as liberals, were against that mentality?”

    It is hard to tell where the Dems are going to go next. There is a deep schism in the base between those who want to go all in on socialism (the Bernie wing) and those who want to continue with, and maybe even go harder on, open borders, BLM and free trade/pro wall street/crony capitalism.

    I want to be clear that I am categorically not predicting that the Democrats are even remotely in danger of any sort of breakup, even today the Democrats are far more united than are the Republicans. What I am saying, however, is that the Bernie/Warren wing can no longer be dismissed. There is a real constituency amongst the Dem base for for a return to pre Clinton Democratic economics.

    This will be absolutely toxic to the Dems. The success of the Democratic coalition depends on having a combination of social liberalism and right wing economics. They will always have the minority votes for racial reasons, but huge amounts of cuck whites will jump ship if they are told they will have to pay more taxes to give more free stuff to blacks and latinos. It hurts with Asian voters as well.

    By the way, this has already happened in the UK. The UK Labor party has returned to its socialist roots and completely destroyed itself electorally because socially liberal educated whites refuse to pay more taxes.

    Otis the Sweaty

    November 15, 2016 at 6:11 am

    • I think the white and black/other wings of the Democrats will break apart, but the question is when. Maybe Jill Stein can vacuum up the Bernie bros, that was how it went down in Europe.


      November 15, 2016 at 9:42 am

    • The transformation of the Democratic Party from a working class party to the party of the rich and urban gentry is one of the biggest stories of the last 50 years, yet it has no name. That’s probably because political scientists overwhelmingly favor the Democratic Party and therefore have no incentive to give it one. As Orwell said, it’s harder to attack or criticize something if a name for it doesn’t exist in your vocabulary. The Southern Strategy has a name, so it gets weaponized against Republicans to drive a wedge between them and other voters even though the Southern Strategy was partly a response to this unnamed and deliberate process going on simultaneously in the Democratic Party.

      Now we’re in a situation where the wealthiest Americans, the Hollywood moguls, CEOs and tech giants are all overwhelmingly supporters of the Democratic Party and largely shaping its direction, a direction many in the grassroots and the rest of America don’t want, but it’s difficult to attack because there’s no shorthand label for it. I’ve thought about this and think I’ve found one that works: the Corporate Strategy.


      November 15, 2016 at 10:37 am

      • Too vague and not catchy. In the U.K., they just call that wing “Neoliberalism”. You’ve got the socialist true believers vs the Neoliberals (both globalist) vs the working man (who’ve largely fled to UKIP).


        November 15, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    • Actually the dems killed themselves with Bill Clinton by becoming moderate repubs. Between moderate repubs and real repubs, its an easy choice. Its only the voters Obama brought that changed things.

      They should have ridden the populist wave and come out against Iraq, wall street, neverending war and the surveillance state…but the donors were intelligent enough to buy the opposition as well.

      Trostsky 101 – the elite buy both parties in parliament to maintain the illusion of democracy.

      We’ve had a plutocracy since ‘105 IQ dementia riddled B movie frontman for Caymans’ Reagan.

      Ronald smiled alot though while shipping industry to child labour and deregulating wall street. Great man!

      The Philosopher

      November 15, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      • The numbers bear this out – Bill never won the popular vote.

        The Philosopher

        November 15, 2016 at 12:17 pm

  7. The title song is also 80s greatness. Love the Psychadelic Furs.

    ice hole

    November 15, 2016 at 8:06 am

  8. Why doesn’t Lion have a post about the movie “Dirty Dancing?” It was always one of my favorites. It’s portrayal of Jewish people was interesting. Many of them were portrayed totally negative (Vivienne Pressman, Robby Gould) some were somewhat shallow but redeemable (Lisa Houseman, Max Kellerman.)Others were essentially good people who needed to be set straight on a few things (Jake Houseman needed to stop stereotyping uneducated people as trash, Penny the dance teacher needed to stop stereotyping the resort guests as pampered individuals who had no real problems in life.)

    Most fascinating was the character Neil, Max Kellerman’s grandson who managed the hotels. He was portrayed as a pompous little jerk who didn’t care about anyone other than himself. But if you remember, he reveals that he is going on a Freedom ride though the South to promote civil rights. This was not just attending some trendy student protest on a campus. Freedom riders were going into what was a racial war zone without weapons – they were literally taking their lives in their own hands. Many of them, fearing they might not live through the experience, had a last will and testament made up beforehand. If Neil was willing to be a Freedom Rider than clearly he had a lot of good in him. It’s likely his youthful conceit would have worn off as he aged.

    Herr Icane

    November 15, 2016 at 8:56 am

    • “Freedom riders” were shit.


      November 15, 2016 at 11:32 am

      • Thank you for saying that.

        The glorification of these assholes is repulsive. The old saying that in the South races were segregated by class and in the North by geography was certainly true. Your average white southerner of that time, and likely today, has a familiarity with blacks that was an order of magnitude greater in terms of intimate knowledge than any Freedom rider. It was this very familiarity which told them that segregation was good for both groups. The Freedom riders were out for a little excitement and the thrill of looking down on people they didn’t understand. They were total slime.

        Try going to Israel sometime and lecturing the Israelis about the harmlessness of Palestinians and you might get a reaction not dissimilar to that received by the Freedom riders.


        November 17, 2016 at 12:30 am

  9. You left out another key feature of 80s movies and TV. Every portrayal of a group of young white adults didn’t require the obligatory black friend. Today, you can’t even show Middle Ages Europe without including a couple of prominent black characters.


    November 15, 2016 at 9:27 am

    • Anybody watch Cheers lately? There’s something odd about it, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.


      November 15, 2016 at 9:45 am

      • Hard to believe Cheers was on in the nineties, when the Token Black phenomenon was well underway, yet there was no token black. I guess even though token blacks were becoming common, they were not so ubiquitous that a still how without one didn’t stand out as “racist.”

        If Cheers were made today, the Rhea Perlman character–feisty, sarcastic, no-nonsense–would be black.


        November 15, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    • Haha! In an English show set in Victorian times among the aristocracy, there was a black musician figuring prominently. Of course, he had to be involved in a romantic angle…

      They never seem to be with black women anymore on tv…always white women. Hmmm.

      Don’t forget movies with Ancient Eygpt and black gods and so on.

      Or the requirement that all theoretical physicists in movies have to be black, because giving blacks the highest iq jobs in movies makes up for everything else they can’t do. Hahaha.

      And note the insane amount of 90s rappers in tv these days.

      TV/film has degenerated so badly its embarrassing.

      The Philosopher

      November 15, 2016 at 12:11 pm

  10. You forgot to mention James Spader’s brilliant and terrifying performance as a narcissistic yuppie youth.

    You’d never guess it from watching this film, but Andrew McCarthy was a physically gifted comic actor. The screwball comedy “Weekend at Bernie’s” (co-starring a very funny Jonathan Silverman) is one of his finest performances.

    Also, the Pretty in Pink soundtrack is generally considered one of the greatest movie soundtracks ever. It’s a lot of fun to listen to while driving.


    November 15, 2016 at 1:03 pm

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