Lion of the Blogosphere

The pro-truth anti-SJW movement

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How do you like the name?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 23, 2016 at 1:33 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. It’s the right idea, but too long and clunky.

    Two in the Bush

    November 23, 2016 at 1:42 pm

  2. SJW as a thing is going to fade sooner or later. It’s like when the Media Research Center used to call their satirical media-bias prizes “the Linda Ellerbee Awards.” It quickly seemed dated and a little petty to go after someone who was never more than a media C-lister.

    I like “Redpill” as it’s a long-term part of the worldwide lexicon and draws a clear contrast between realism and sheltered libsofts’ yearning for science to give them comforting narratives about human nature.

    Fiddlesticks

    November 23, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    • And so it goes….

      Gozo

      November 23, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    • I doubt it, not unless they really clean out academia. Otherwise they’ll probably double down on SJWism for the next few generations and kick that coalition of fringes into hyperdrive as whites decline in number.

      Jason Liu

      November 23, 2016 at 6:33 pm

  3. Don’t make it complicated. It’s just the “New Right.”

    Maj

    November 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    • New Right isn’t bad, except there will always be a newer Right. I still think Paleo Conservative works well.

      Mike Street Station

      November 23, 2016 at 4:02 pm

      • Paleoconservativism is all about Palestine and Iran. Most Paleocons are okay with, and even welcome mass immigration.

        The New Right is probably the best suggested name so far but it is also kinda irrelevant now that we are actually in power. I guess we are just back to being “Conservatives” now.

        Otis the Sweaty

        November 24, 2016 at 3:30 am

  4. Might as well call it the Motherhood and Apple Pie movement. Absolutely everybody supports “the truth” and hates SJW types.

    Look, you either accept the importance or race and ethnic identity or you don’t. You are simply going to have to calm down and share space with people who are willing to put parenthesis around reporters’ names. They’re not going to gas anyone.

    bob

    November 23, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    • No, but they’d like to. And they’re going to at least fill his inbox with pictures of him photoshopped into a concentration camp.

      SFG

      November 23, 2016 at 6:59 pm

  5. Populist or Populist Right? Populist sounds like popular, which is a generally positive thing. It sounds democratic too. The opposition would then be called the Elitists or Elites, and few want that label, especially the Elites in the press, academe, and the left.

    steve@steve.com

    November 23, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    • I thought about that, but it’s more like a name for the Donald Trump movement than for the dissident right as a general intellectual movement.

      IHTG

      November 23, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    • I’m afraid that populism, like “nationalism” is too broad, too vulnerable to being hijacked by Glenn Beck types who will argue that it means an aggressive foreign policy and being “colorblind” so we can be “united.”

      jasonbayz

      November 23, 2016 at 3:01 pm

      • Beck is a about as populist as a Rotschild Economist article on privacy rights for tax haven clients.

        The Philosopher

        November 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm

  6. The Anti-Establishment Right

    biffonaut

    November 23, 2016 at 2:30 pm

  7. How about “We hide because we’re cowards”?

    not so fast

    November 23, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    • Pot/kettle much?

      Anyway, notice how they’re completely baffled by people who state opinions for motives other than virtue-signaling or money.

      Fiddlesticks

      November 23, 2016 at 4:11 pm

  8. How about “realists” for a name?

    James B. Shearer

    November 23, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    • Can we join up with the reality-based community then?

      Glengarry

      November 23, 2016 at 5:01 pm

  9. We can either stay and fight for the Alt Right label. Or just let the bastards have it and rebrand ourselves as the New Right. There are advantages to being the NEW Right. First, it allows us to make a clear distinction between ourselves and the Alt Right. And, since it’s new, it won’t carry the baggage of other elements from the past.

    I don’t want anything that defines ourselves in opposition to anyone else though. Also, every time I hear truther movement I think of conspiracy nuts like 9/11 truthers and Jon Lajoie’s video.

    destructure

    November 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    • Why I can read you say “9/11 conspiracy nuts” and infer you are Jewish, confident that my inference is correct?

      There is no doubt the official version of 9/11 events is false. And what of this upsets you so much is there could be a somehow Jewish involvement. But we get upset when we are biased and partisan; and also, when we are partisan and biased we get upset.

      My interest regarding 9/11 is of a more linear nature. I wish the truth to be know, without minding which and whose deeds would come to the fore.
      This is why no theory upsets me.
      If when in front of facts you pre-emptively choose what truth must be and do according to sentiments and preferences, you are going to fight truth and to fight the fight for truth.

      The choice is between what makes us feel better or truth, which usually isn’t very soothing.

      You should criticize certain nutty theories on 11/9, but when you discount ALL theories straying from the official version, well, I can’t but detect huge bias.

      Plor_erres

      November 24, 2016 at 10:16 am

  10. J. Taylor was throwing around Dissdent Right and White Advocate for a while.

    fakeemail

    November 23, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    • I think we need to ditch the term “white” altogether and find some other label for our people. It’s a word with far too much baggage, and everyone else gets to have some other official title for their ethnic group/race. Plus, it isn’t always literally true. Even among NW Europeans, some folks are just, well, brown. My father’s exposed skin hasn’t been “white” since before he saw the sun for the first time in his life. I’d say about a third of the Euro-American population has a year-round tan.

      Stealth

      November 24, 2016 at 9:03 am

      • “Even among NW Europeans, some folks are just, well, brown.”

        The term ‘olive-skinned’ needs to make a comeback and in a big way.

        A lot of Mexicans are mostly European — tall, with gracile bone structure and European features — but they sport a perma-tan. Right now they identify as Mexican because Whites are mocked and derided by the gaystream media. This can change. It’s better for Whites if they identify with the superior part of their DNA rather than the low-IQ, criminal mestizo part of their DNA.

        hard9bf

        November 24, 2016 at 10:49 am

  11. I love Thomas Paine’s “Common Sense”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Sense_(pamphlet)
    Maybe something with sense? Like “True Sense”?
    Why not “Common Sense”? Not unique?

    Neal

    November 23, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    • I always imagined Trump would govern as the Common Sense Conservative.

      gda

      November 23, 2016 at 7:40 pm

  12. I like ‘Dissident’ right, or something in the same vein like Samizdat or Rebel, or even Refusenik. I was also thinking of ‘Realist Right’ as a kind of echo of the phrase ‘race realist’.

    After we have a name, can we move on to getting mascot and a secret password?

    prolier than thou

    November 23, 2016 at 4:39 pm

  13. Patriotic Party says it all. It includes everything, offends nobody and has no negative historical associations. The name itself evokes positive associations. People, who know nothing about politics, will automatically get a fuzzy feeling when thinking of the name. A total winner.

    Yakov

    November 23, 2016 at 4:50 pm

  14. Given that Otis says we should embrace Muslims as our anti-globalist allies, then I would suggest taking the name ‘The Caliban’ after the slave character in Shakespeare’s The Tempest. As well as being literary and clever it encompasses our place as a kind of white, Euro-Taliban.

    Wiki describes Caliban thus-

    ‘a freckled monster, he is the only human inhabitant of the island that is otherwise “not honour’d with a human shape” (Prospero, I.2.283). In some traditions he is depicted as: a wild man, or a deformed man, or a beast man’

    which, let’s be honest, is probably what more than a few of us look like in real life*. It also makes us seem self-depracating.

    But the main point is that Caliban was enslaved on the island that was righfully his by the magic of Propero-

    “This island’s mine, by Sycorax my mother,
    Which thou takest from me. When thou camest first,
    Thou strokedst me and madest much of me, wouldst give me
    Water with berries in’t, and teach me how 485
    To name the bigger light, and how the less,
    That burn by day and night: and then I loved thee
    And show’d thee all the qualities o’ the isle,
    The fresh springs, brine-pits, barren place and fertile:
    Cursed be I that did so! All the charms 490
    Of Sycorax, toads, beetles, bats, light on you!
    For I am all the subjects that you have,
    Which first was mine own king: and here you sty me
    In this hard rock, whiles you do keep from me
    The rest o’ the island”

    *not me.

    prolier than thou

    November 23, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    • Otis is bonkers.

      Glengarry

      November 23, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    • What about alt-Taliban?

      The Philosopher

      November 23, 2016 at 5:48 pm

  15. The Nationalist Rightwing Terror and Pain Party?

    Glengarry

    November 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm

  16. The golden glow intensifies, day 3:

    DJIA 19083 (+0.31%)
    WIRUS 240 (-0.07%)

    Glengarry

    November 23, 2016 at 5:04 pm

  17. 1950s Conservatives.

    The Philosopher

    November 23, 2016 at 5:37 pm

  18. I prefer Progressive Party after Teddy R. Like Teddy I’m a populist in economics and nationalist in social, foreign and immigration policy.

    Read TRs platform.

    Sanders and Trump should break off from the establishment and reform it. Sanders secretly hates immigration and Trump secretly couldn’t care less about tax credits for patent boxes in enterprise zones.

    The Philosopher

    November 23, 2016 at 5:39 pm

  19. Your proposal is too much of a mouthful.

    I prefer Kekism or Trumpism, although the former has some religious connotations that unfortunately not all of the God-Emperor’s followers believe in.

    HBDfan

    November 23, 2016 at 5:40 pm

  20. Maybe we could call ourselves the “Wake the fuck up and close the motherfuckin border party”.

    The Philosopher

    November 23, 2016 at 5:49 pm

  21. Plain old “nationalism” will do. That’s what most of the world calls it, anyway. Say it enough and it stops being a bad word.

    Jason Liu

    November 23, 2016 at 6:34 pm

  22. How about “non-faggots”? That would separate us from Richard Spencer, anyway.

    driveallnight

    November 23, 2016 at 7:05 pm

  23. How about “Radical Expressionists” or rad-ex?

    A narco capitalist

    November 23, 2016 at 7:23 pm

  24. SJW Busters

    JS

    November 23, 2016 at 7:55 pm

  25. Patriot party is the winner.

    Wencil

    November 23, 2016 at 7:55 pm

  26. You should check out snotty British academic star Simon Schama’s tweets. He’s gone nuts.

    gothamette

    November 23, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    • He was part of a seven people panel, all 7 Jewish if I recall right, who commented Trump’s victory on BBC in its aftermath.

      By the way, how easy it is to lack self-consciousness, and to act exactly like what we (think we) despise, of course without knowing it. Or to be like those whom we despise.

      “I fell for the clickbait. It’s Heartiste’s garbage, with nasty name-calling, and I wouldn’t worry about it. If he wants to make a point, does he have to name-call? This is childish. Heartiste is the most loathsome of the alt-right slimebags. He is a hard core anti-Semite, and I suspect most of his experiences with women are imaginary.”

      Do we have to name-call to make our point? Is it childish?
      Well, it’s sure that lacking self-awareness and knowledge of one’s own behavior is not “childish”: adults fall for it even more pitifully. Same goes for projection.

      Onshaenn

      November 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm

      • Were you quoting me? What does that have to do with Schama?

        gothamette

        November 24, 2016 at 8:40 pm

  27. A Patriot Party is neither left or right. When workers are exploited, it turns left to protect their rights. When companies are being bankrupt by trade unions, it turn to the right to protect the companies. It cares about the well being of the nation as a whole and doesn’t favor any population group or special interests. If the pharmaceutical industry, the doctors and the insurance companies make it impossible for tens of millions of citizens to afford a health insurance, it steps in and puts an end to this disgrace. If tuition is unaffordable, it does what’s necessary to put it back within the reach of the population. A good example of a patriotic leader us this man: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Ulmanis

    Yakov

    November 23, 2016 at 8:27 pm

  28. Bring back neo-reactionary? America First? (Trump already adopted this anyway).

    Observer

    November 23, 2016 at 8:53 pm

  29. Realist Right.

    VHS

    November 23, 2016 at 8:56 pm

  30. I’m not sure if you guys have been looking at any election results, but, uh, we’re winning.

    The Bush/Cameron/Sarkozys are not the majority, we are. And increasingly not just within the right, but amongst the general public as well. We are not the alternative; they are.

    Let’s step into the role and responsibility that’s been handed to us. We are “conservatives,” “conservative Republicans,” or “the right.” No adjectives or qualifiers needed!

    Let the globalists self-ghettofy with fringey monikers. Let the liberals do what they want to anyway, make zany statements about how all conservatives/right-wingers/Republicans are evil racists.

    snorlax

    November 24, 2016 at 4:43 am

  31. I’ve always liked the idea of National Libertarianism. Freedom within and defense of the nation.

    strong on crime (property rights), soft on social issues (if it doesn’t hurt others person or property), free speech, freedom of association, nativist immigration policy, light regulation

    XVO

    November 24, 2016 at 8:56 am

  32. Conservatism in one country.

    Lionel of the Richiesphere

    November 24, 2016 at 9:24 am

  33. We’re the hu-Right.

    hard9bf

    November 24, 2016 at 10:53 am

  34. Maybe “Trumpers” as broadly defined here by Steve Hsu? “Trumpers (= populist, anti-globalist, anti-PC)”

    btw. Hsu’s whole comment is interesting.

    “steve hsu Mod David Coughlin • 16 hours ago
    re: Iowa lady, I don’t completely endorse her point of view, but I understand where she is coming from. She seems like a good person, certainly not a racist, voted for Obama twice. She’s part of the NOT deplorable Trump base.

    You can model *her* reaction to Dem identity politics positions on immigration (amnesty? open borders? social benefits for illegals?), BLM (“systemic racism”? ALM = hate speech?), etc. How are they going to win her back while keeping the non-white part of their coalition engaged? I can certainly see it if Trump really screws up. But as Bannon said, if their team performs reasonably while Dems stick to their current positions on these issues, Trumpers (= populist, anti-globalist, anti-PC) can rule for many election cycles…

    I think Bill Clinton understands all of this very well. But HRC and her team, as well as the media, the Left, coastal elites, etc. are just now waking up to the problem. In the end demographics may eventually deliver the prize to them, no matter what Trump does now about immigration. But that future America, I fear, will be deeply polarized along racial lines and highly dysfunctional.”

    http://disq.us/p/1dx22n8

    Julian

    November 25, 2016 at 4:29 am

  35. I would answer to “HBD Citizenist”, which Sid used in this thread: https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/what-does-alt-right-mean/comment-page-1/

    “Nationalist” might do in a pinch, too. Basically, though, I think that this isn’t really a movement and it sure isn’t a political party, just a constellation of people with related ideas (and some starkly differing ideas), so it doesn’t have much need for a name.

    Greg Pandatshang

    November 25, 2016 at 11:37 am

  36. I would not describe myself as Nationalist or Right Wing. But I like any combination of the following terms:

    Libertarian
    Eugenics
    Realist
    Progressive
    Social Engineering

    How about the “Progressive Libertarian Eugenics” movement? Or PLE for short?

    DataExplorer

    November 30, 2016 at 4:07 pm


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