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Kellyanne Conway’s tweet

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Second-guessing Trump’s decisions in public like this would surely get Trump mad at her. Why did she do it?

Maybe, because Trump asked her, because he wants Romney to read it, because he wants Romney to beg harder for the job and/or show more public contrition.

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My favorite Romney tweet:

That was in response to Trump saying: “He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said, ‘Mitt, drop to your knees.’ He would have dropped to his knees.”

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Don’t get the reference? Read my Short review of Midnight Cowboy.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 24, 2016 at 11:46 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. If Romney had endorsed Cruz or Kasich in the primaries, and then had “supported our party’s nominee” in the general, I would’ve been glad to see him as SoS. But he was such a rat all throughout the race that I don’t think his managerial qualities make up for his treachery.

    Loyalty is what’s key here, because there’s a massive gap between Romney and Trump’s foreign policy aims. Trump can’t trust Romney to go ahead and implement Trumpist ideas into practice on his on. Romney needed to show he could have worked with Trump, even if he disagreed with him on key issues, but he didn’t.

    Sid

    November 25, 2016 at 12:23 am

    • My guess – Trump gets Romney to apologize then picks Dana Rohrabacher as Sec of State.

      “It just so happens that Donald Trump and I agree on the major foreign policy decisions that will have to be made,” he said.

      Rohrabacher said that central to his view of American foreign policy is the development of a quartet of nations, led by the United States, to grow the world economy, combat terrorism, and check the influence and power of China.

      In the congressman’s view, Japan, India, Russia, and the United States share common interests, common rivals, and by working together would fashion a more peaceful and prosperous world.

      Rifleman

      November 25, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      • Japan yes, Russia maybe, but India is a third-world country.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 25, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      • …but India is a third-world country.

        India is 100 countries most of them but not all are Third World.

        India is a huge mess but it has significance in certain sectors.

        Rifleman

        November 25, 2016 at 4:32 pm

      • “Japan, India, Russia, and the United States share common interests, common rivals…”

        What he’s saying is that the four countries share a common threat in Islamic terrorism and a common rival in China.

        Japan has terrible relations with China. Japan has friendly transactional ties with the Gulf States when it comes to oil and LNG, but is not PC when it comes to accepting Muslims into the country.

        India has had a long-standing rivalry with China, and has consistently terrible ties with Pakistan. They’ll try to get along with China and the Islamic world as best they can, and India does have millions of Muslims, but under Modi it’s safe to say that India regards Islamic terrorism as a great threat.

        Russia has complex ties with the Islamic world, but generally does what it can to curtail Islamic extremism. Russia currently has mildly friendly ties with China, but there’s no doubt Russians are cognizant of the Sino-Soviet split and conflict, and are wary of China’s geostrategic dominance dwarfing theirs.

        Hillary’s foreign policy would have been fairly straightforward: Russia would’ve been regarded as an enemy, the EU would’ve been considered our chief friend, and our ties with the Islamic world would’ve been PC, where we would work with the Gulf States as strategic partners and insist Islam is the religion of peace while we bombed Assad.

        The framework Dana Rohrabacher proposes is feasible and relatively Trumpish. I don’t think Romney is the guy to implement a Trumpist foreign policy, again because of the lack of loyalty and their ideological differences.

        Sid

        November 25, 2016 at 6:36 pm

  2. Midnight Cowboy is an all time classic.

    The Philosopher

    November 25, 2016 at 6:06 am

    • Probably the most overrated film of all time. Now that you’ve mentioned it I think I’ll go find what Pauline Kael said about it. Doubtless effusive praise.

      mel belli

      November 25, 2016 at 11:47 am

  3. Given the issues Conway has had wresting Trump’s phone from him to keep him off twitter, this all seems deliberate.

    Mike Street Station

    November 25, 2016 at 7:34 am

    • Its interesting that Conway’s tweet immediately after this was in praise of Kissinger and said that he was a good checklist.

      Thats weird since my impression was that Kissinger saw himself on par with Nixon and was given to his own freelancing.

      On the other hand she also mentioned George Schultz who was extremely personally loyal to his President.

      I agree that Conway has some bigger game here.

      Lion of the Turambar

      November 25, 2016 at 9:12 am

    • Given the issues Conway has had wresting Trump’s phone from him to keep him off twitter, this all seems deliberate.

      It’s going to be quite something if Trump pulls the SoS position away from Romney at the last second – and he is sure dragging it out.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      November 25, 2016 at 10:47 am

  4. “He was begging for my endorsement. I could have said, ‘Mitt, drop to your knees.’ He would have dropped to his knees.”

    Because we know Trump does not have a habit of exaggerating. I know a narcissist, and I wanted to buy a book he authored. I sent an e-mail hoping he still had a copy left, and within 24 hours he posted a message saying buyers better get it now because someone had just “begged” for a copy.

    Vince

    November 25, 2016 at 8:21 am

    • I didn’t say I believed it happened.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 25, 2016 at 8:25 am

    • People take Trump really literally.

      Like really really unbelievably literally.

      Literally unbelievable, you might say.

      We are going to get SICK of winning..

      LIterally.

      Hope Obamacare got that covered.

      Otherwise, its a natural disaster.

      The Philosopher

      November 25, 2016 at 9:18 am

  5. Trump values loyalty. I don’t think he’ll pick Romney for that reason alone. It’s all a show to keep the NeverTrumpers off balance and also to make Romney come and kiss the ring. But in the end Trump will kick Romney to the curb after humiliating him a little more. If he does make the mistake of picking that loser snake Romney, it’s a very bad sign. Romney was nasty and vicious towards Trump right up until the end. He will try to undermine Trump every chance he gets,

    JimBonobo

    November 25, 2016 at 8:34 am

    • Romney does have a lot of good qualities. He could get some lesser post to prove his loyalty before getting something big. I would use his supposed administrative talent to clean up the VA, and then see how things are going. In a sense, Romney on the outside is dangerous also, since he could be an opposition figure to rally around. I wouldn’t be surprised if Romney is thinking about opposing Trump in 2020. This is another reason not to give Romney a big post like SoS.

      The biggest problem with the SoS position is that Romney is a hawk and NeoCon. Trump wants to work with Assad and Putin to get rid of ISIS. How is that supposed work when Romney wants to go to war with Assad and Putin?

      Dan

      November 25, 2016 at 9:03 am

      • “Romney does have a lot of good qualities. He could get some lesser post to prove his loyalty before getting something big. I would use his supposed administrative talent to clean up the VA, and then see how things are going.”

        That sounds fair. Cleaning up the VA is a fairly non-partisan project, and Romney loves firing people.

        Sid

        November 25, 2016 at 12:37 pm

  6. Well just on Midnight Cowboy, I watched it 3 weeks ago again and it’s still as powerful and sad as the first time I saw it many years ago. I’ve watched many hundreds of movies as Blockbuster store clerk a long time ago, and this movie is one of my top 5.

    The commenter in that thread also brings up After Hours and Taxi Driver as similar movies.

    Taxi Driver is the first ever mainstream HBD-aware movie with an explicit HBD agenda I’m aware of. The writer admitted Harvey Keitel’s pimp character and bad guys were all supposed to be black. Likewise the had to cut a scene after Bickle drives the forlorn man to kill his wife’s black lover and of course the crusade against filth.

    Its funny how I can watch that movie with someone and get a completely different perspective. Many people think the movie is a periscope view into a sick demented man’s psychosis (STORY A). And some people see a tragedy, where a war veteran confronts the moral disintegration and grime America has allowed itself to become (STORY B).

    See Deathwise, with Charles Bronson or Dirty Harry with Eastwood. They are the same STORY A!! Beating back the crime spree blacks, the great unreported social problem of the Narrative.

    Anyways, the writer and Scorsese had to change Taxi Driver villain’s race because “it would have caused a race riot”.

    After Hours shows something I haven’t seen in movies in a very long time – namely lonely women. Because the sexual market and feminism have brought intense disequilibrium between women and men, its actually a bit of a shock to see an average guy like that who gets hotties throwing themselves at him. The movie is very anti-feminist.

    Scorsese is a pretty red pill guy.

    How can De Niro star in taxi driver and make that rant against Trump.

    Funnily enough, he may have thought he was acting STORY A.

    The Philosopher

    November 25, 2016 at 9:42 am

    • You ever watch Mean Streets? Extremely high quality.

      Two in the Bush

      November 25, 2016 at 10:32 am

    • De Niro was dumb enough to get involved with a woman of color. And if you all want a good movie bit, there’s this:

      Vincent

      November 25, 2016 at 11:19 am

    • Taxi Driver clearly casts the white Bickle as the bad guy.

      It’s a classic Hollywood trick: give some credence to red-pill ideas (race), but make it all moot by showing that the one who has these ideas is crazy or disturbed.

      One doesn’t leave Taxi Driver with the conclusion that Bickle was right. One is supposed to leave with the feeling that Bickle is also part/cause of the disintegrating world; not a just reaction to a disintegrating world.

      The libs *always* conflate and draw a moral equivalency between non-white dysfunction with white anger. It’s all the “same thing” supposedly.

      fakeemail

      November 25, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      • Yeah the producers had to step in. Ruined a good story. Made him take a date to a porno. Surprised they didn’t make him sieg hail a taxi.

        The Philosopher

        November 25, 2016 at 1:33 pm

  7. If Conway publicly second guessed Trump it was definitely planned.

    There are two ways to think about Romney. One is that Trump would never pick Romney after the way Romney attacked him. The other is that Trump might pick Romney if it was in his strategic interest to do so. A strategic interest may be to garner the support necessary to pass his policies. Or he may just want to keep him around as a dog to kick. I can see Trump doing that.

    I think Trump wants to humiliate him then tell him to get lost. He’ll do it for shadenfreude but there’s a practical reason as well. It would be hard for Romney to criticize Trump again after having publicly attacked him then publicly crawled back. Romney has been completely and publicly emasculated by this. I’m embarrassed at having liked someone with so little self-respect. All Hail Romney, King of the Cucks!

    destructure

    November 25, 2016 at 10:04 am

    • Hahahaha good take

      The Philosopher

      November 25, 2016 at 12:18 pm

  8. The only x-rated Best Picture

    ScarletNumber

    November 25, 2016 at 1:07 pm

  9. […] Four days ago, I wrote in response to Conway’s tweets: […]

  10. Here’s my take: the actual substance of the meeting is all about Iran and the nuclear deal. On matters as big as global nuclear armament, these two men can put aside their differences. Obama gave Trump some intel on Iran’s nuclear capabilities and gave the case as to why the deal must be upheld. Now Trump wants to get the establishment Republican take on the issue. It could well be that Romney, as well as advising Trump on this issue, wants to get the Secretary of State job, but I doubt he would hold out his advice until Trump promises him the position. The purpose of making these meetings so public is for Trump to be able to show himself as both a uniter and a forgiver.

    DataExplorer

    December 2, 2016 at 10:36 am


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