Lion of the Blogosphere

Rosie O’Donnell and Barron

with 60 comments

Surprised about any of this? Not if you were carefully paying attention to my comments!

Back in February, more than nine months ago, I wrote in a comment:

Actually I have word that Trump’s youngest son has some sort of developmental or learning disability.

People who follow my blog knew about this nine months before the rest of the world! However, unlike Rosie, I was more circumspect in naming whatever he has, and I’m not 100% sure it’s a “spectrum” thing just because I’ve heard second-hand accounts from parents at his school making their own armchair diagnoses (although after watching the video, I think it probably is a “spectrum” thing). What I did hear, all rumors that I can’t confirm, is that he has no friends at school and his academic performance is below par compared to the other children at that school.

Not that there’s anything wrong with having Asperger’s syndrome, if that’s what he has. I dislike it when commenters use “autistic” or “aspergery” as an insult.

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“gothmette” writes:

I didn’t read the article but I read a few like it. It’s pure & utter horseshit. Shame on you for calling attention to this, Lion. The kid yawned after a boring speech. He’s a normal boy. If he’s into solitary pursuits it’s because his upbringing is so weird.

That cat appears to already be out of the bag, which is why I am blogging about it today. It doesn’t appear to be “pure & utter horseshit.” It also helps to explain why Melania is staying with Barron in Trump Tower and not moving to the White House.

At least we should credit the mainstream Trump-hating media for keeping Trump’s kid’s problems private for such a long time.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 25, 2016 at 2:20 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Ugh, Redstate.

    IHTG

    November 25, 2016 at 2:25 pm

  2. I didn’t read the article but I read a few like it. It’s pure & utter horseshit. Shame on you for calling attention to this, Lion. The kid yawned after a boring speech. He’s a normal boy. If he’s into solitary pursuits it’s because his upbringing is so weird.

    BTW you’ve blown your chance to work for the Trump Admin. Ya think he’s going to give a job to someone who badmouths his kid?

    gothamette

    November 25, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    • Trump himself is definitely not reading my blog, but I’m willing to delete any post that Stephen Bannon would ask me to delete in exchange for a good job.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 25, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      • Also those videos are all from like three thirty in the morning. I couldn’t make it to midnight to watch the times square ball drop at ten years old

        Magnavox

        November 25, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      • My belief that Barron probably does have “some sort of developmental or learning disability” is not based on a single incident of Barron being tired or unhappy-looking at 3:30 AM.

        Not that Barron having some sort of developmental or learning disability reflects poorly on his parents. These things, unfortunately, just happen.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 25, 2016 at 4:31 pm

      • I didn’t read the article but I read a few like it. It’s pure & utter horseshit.

        Gothamette has officially disavowed the Lion.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 25, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      • Gothamette has officially disavowed the Lion.

        She’s the type to turn on you very quickly.

        Barron Trump is 10 years old, keep that in mind. He’s tall and always in a suit but he’s still only 10.

        That said I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s on the autism spectrum. I’m sure the Trumps know what the issue is.

        Shy, introverted, awkward 10 year old boy is not all that unusual.

        Rifleman

        November 25, 2016 at 5:24 pm

      • Wow, TuJ sez something & Rifleman quotes it and somehow now it’s a Biblical quotation…nope I haven’t “turned on the Lion” I just disagree w/him here.

        Simmer down.

        Now, Ann Coulter is the one who turns on people. She’s bitching about Trump’s cabinet picks so far.

        gothamette

        November 25, 2016 at 11:05 pm

      • nope I haven’t “turned on the Lion” I just disagree w/him here.

        You did only to change your mind again.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 26, 2016 at 11:24 am

    • Kids with non-normal upbringings are social. Humans are social animals.

      JW Bell

      November 25, 2016 at 5:32 pm

      • What earthly evidence do we have he’s on the autism spectrum? He yawned? Not everyone’s on the autism spectrum, and if there’s anyone who’s carrying around less than his share of ‘nerd genes’, it’s Trump.

        SFG

        November 25, 2016 at 7:15 pm

      • …if there’s anyone who’s carrying around less than his share of ‘nerd genes’, it’s Trump.

        LOL. Funny, but yeah everyone is a bit autistic compared to Donald Trump.

        Rifleman

        November 25, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    • The Redstate article was commenting on something that was already talked about out there on the Left and Rosie O’Donnell. And it was about how it ridiculous it is to have internet doctors making a diagnosis based on pasting together youtube video clips. So the articles position is the opposite of what you think.

      The acceptance speech behavior analysis is especially dopey. He got woken up in the middle of the night, poured into a suit and propped up on stage in front of blazing lights and a fevered crowd. I dont know how any kid is supposed be “normal” in that environment and Rosie’s concern trolling is just another sign of what a horrible person she is.

      Lion of the Turambar

      November 26, 2016 at 10:51 am

      • “how it ridiculous it is to have internet doctors making a diagnosis based on pasting together youtube video clips”

        Ridiculous when applied to Trump’s kid, put perfectly valid when applied to Hillary Clinton?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 26, 2016 at 11:00 am

      • You’re correct on both counts. I didn’t rephrase my objection very articulately. I agree with the article, but I didn’t want to read it because I just don’t want to deal with this nonsense. What you said about the boy being woken up and having to sit through a dull speech is correct nobody should base their opinions of his mental health on something like that. This is all a part of an illegitimate campaign to denormalize Trump. And I still say to Lion “shame on you.”

        gothamette

        November 26, 2016 at 2:31 pm

  3. Well it seems from the vid Trump thinks vaccines caused it….maybe he should ask Ben Carson about that.

    The Philosopher

    November 25, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    • I’m not fully convinced that this isn’t just a very shy and introverted kid that has no clue about interacting in a social situation. But if he does indeed have autism, I’d attribute it more to Trump’s old age at the moment of conception than any vaccine. Trump was 59 years old back in 2005.

      Greg Cochran wrote a very good article about this some time ago: https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/paternal-age/

      “The researchers talked about the problems caused by these de novo mutations – things like schizophrenia and AUTISM [my emphasis]. We already knew that such risks increased with paternal age, but this work quantifies the mutations responsible.”

      HBDfan

      November 25, 2016 at 3:41 pm

      • Correct, both Tiffany and Barron were born way past Trump’s prime.

        JS

        November 25, 2016 at 11:51 pm

  4. They’ve moving to the White House after the school year is over, it’s been announced.

    IHTG

    November 25, 2016 at 2:53 pm

  5. Many such cases.

    chairman

    November 25, 2016 at 2:53 pm

  6. Serious question: Is Paul Ryan/Romney the cuckiest ticket ever?

    At least with Bush/Cheney, Cheney was at least only a psychopath who wasn’t taking orders and McCain/Palin you felt Palin would have worn only a barrel around her waist if that’s what they told her to do.

    Call me crazy, but I prefer psychopaths, retards and even the enemy over a conniving traitor.

    The Philosopher

    November 25, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    • It’s up there with Dole/Kemp, that’s for sure.

      On the subject of cucks, anyone who says this is a “propositional/idea nation” should drop dead. Nations are made of people and people are FLESH AND BLOOD. I have a biological body, not a propositional/ideological body. Cucks don’t care if their biology dies out so long as their “propositions” live on. Too bad for them you can’t have the latter without the former. And even if you could, who cares?

      The human animal is moved by blood, soil, sex, and money. . .not supposedly lofty propositions. The ideological fetishes of the Left and Right are unnatural in trying to de-racialize and disembody people for economic ends. These ideologies reject our reality as corporeal animal beings.

      fakeemail

      November 25, 2016 at 6:16 pm

      • Cucknomics 101:

        Open the border

        Tax havens

        Deregulate Wall Street, environment, food, pharmaceuticals, energy, media/telco…wait for cartels/dead bodies/Bailout/Oil Spill/Nuclear Reactor Meltdown….rinse repeat.

        Open the border

        Eliminate inheritance tax and cap gains for top 0.01%….sales tax for everyone else

        Neverending war

        Open the border

        Outsource everyone’s jobs to child labourers and coolies in East Asia

        Invoke rac-ism! (TM) against nationalistsrrealconservatives and wear a dildo on your head during MLK spirit cooking day every year

        Keep talking solemnly about how much one loves blacks, wants to marry one, and has many black friends and conclude with demsrrealracists rhetorical flourish cos they don’t deregulate OTC derivatives margin requirements enough for black prop traders for NBA teams.

        Keep talking about religion and do nothing to help Christians and let in tons of unvetted Muslim radicals.

        Start WW3 with Russia

        Open borders

        Stab nationalists in the back. Stab anyone against open borders in the back. Keep saying the founding fathers wanted a nation that was just like Brazil

        No.1 priority is open borders. Everything else above is not as important as stopping someone campaigning for closed borders i.e. Donald Trump. Coordinate locker room tape and rape accusation pressers if necessary with enemy.

        ITS TOTALLY DECREPIT. I would rather have Pelosi in my cabinet than Ryan/Romney/Kemp/Bush. At least she has more integrity in that she plays for her team.

        The Philosopher

        November 25, 2016 at 7:22 pm

      • “Neverending war”

        They believe the Arab countries will be converted to peaceful Democracies as a result of the war, and then the war will end.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        November 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm

  7. OT: At Reason magazine Harvard economist George Borjas debates Shika Dalmia about his book, which argues immigration to US should be restricted as immigrants impose significant costs on US taxpayers and native workers.

    http://reason.com/archives/2016/11/25/two-immigrants-debate-immigrat/

    Gozo

    November 25, 2016 at 3:04 pm

  8. I remember hearing rumors about him possibly being autistic a while back. It might have been here, but I’m not sure. Some people have said that’s why Trump is against vaccines or something.

    Some say there may be a link between older fathers and autism.

    Tom

    November 25, 2016 at 3:22 pm

  9. Maybe Donald will appoint Barron to be head of “the Cyber”:

    https://www.wired.com/2016/11/autistic-people-can-solve-cybersecurity-crisis

    Tom

    November 25, 2016 at 3:25 pm

  10. Rosie doesn’t have anything wrong with her that couldn’t be fixed with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

    destructure

    November 25, 2016 at 3:57 pm

  11. You have to be really careful with this stuff. First, Baron Trump is a 10-year old kid. The only decent way to treat presidential children is to keep them out of the public eye. They can show up for photo ops but that’s it. They should not be discussed except in the most general of terms.. Being in the spotlight messes everyone up and it really screws kids up at a young age.

    Second, a lot of “autism” diagnoses are 100% BS. My eldest didn’t talk until he was 3 and 1/2. Kids usually start talking at around 18 months, so that was really, really late.At one point our pediatrician suggested that we send him to the Los Angeles Unified School District’s “regional center” for evaluation by a psychologist. I could tell that the next stop on that train was a diagnosis of autism, so I refused to take him to the “regional center” and ignored the recommendation. About six months later he started talking. But his social development was slow, so in Kindergarten his teacher (who had a Ph.D.) told us that he is on the “autism spectrum.” She was nice, and smart, so when I protested she agreed not to refer him to the special educators.

    Today he’s fine. He just took the ISEE, the standardized test for private high school admissions. That test has four sub-tests, and he scored in the 93rd percentile on one, in the 99th on another, and in between the 93rd and 99th percentiles on the other two. For context, the average score ISEE score at the elite private high schools in the Los Angeles area like Harvard-Westlake, Polytechnic or Flintridge Prep is in the high 60’s. Just as importantly, his social development is normal. He plays sports, has friends, etc. Is he a little bit socially awkward and nerdy? Sure. But I was much nerdier at his age.

    I think it’s pretty obvious when a kid has a severe disability. He drools and can’t hold his head up. They are so obvious that there is no need to read the tea leaves or try to figure out if there is something a little off about some particular kid. If you aren’t sure, the answer is almost certainly no. And some kids aren’t very smart, but that just means they aren’t smart — it doesn’t mean that they are incapable of functioning. But 99% of kids can, if raised properly, function adequately in society. If Barron is attending a regular school, I’m sure he’s basically fine. Maybe he’s smart, maybe he’s dumb, whatever. I’ve never met the kid, how would I know? But 99% of kids can be taught to read, go to work every day, and lead an ordinarily life. Diagnosing basically normal kids as “autistic” does them no favors.

    Joe Schmoe

    November 25, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    • “You have to be really careful with this stuff.” Agreed.

      “Second, a lot of “autism” diagnoses are 100% BS.” True. He may have some other problem.

      “I think it’s pretty obvious when a kid has a severe disability.” Barron is able to attend a normal school, however the parents of other children at the school seem to be aware that he has some sort of problem.

      It’s unprecedented for the President not to take his children to DC immediately. The Obamas did it. The Clintons did it. The Carters did it. The Trumps seem to think Barron is unable to handle the change.

      Not that any of this reflects poorly on Donald and Melania. They seem to be very dedicated parents.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 25, 2016 at 4:25 pm

      • The aforementioned have been dubbed by the Internet as “striverfaggotpoors”. Since trump never had an inferiority complex to deal with he has no need to destabilize his family by uprooting them almost immediately to DC, especially since he has personal resources with which to commute between New York and DC and have his family do likewise as often as necessary.

        I’m surprised Barron doesn’t have an army of personal tutors to groom him to be his father’s successor. Like the Butler in Richie Rich.

        OldTimer

        November 25, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    • My uncle is in his late-60s today and he didn’t speak at all until he was 5. He’s definitely a sperg and on top of that, he has a severe drinking problem. He turned out about as well as you could hope, though. He was highly technically inclined and spent his life working for a cable company before he retired comfortably a few years ago. He’s also married and has two adult children who are fairly normal.

      Like Lion said, maybe there is something else wrong with your eldest other than autism, but if he’s doing fine now that he’s in high school, who cares? We’ve yet to strike a good balance between addressing problems like these and overreacting to them. My uncle is a severe case. He likely lucked out and anyone like him today should get a lot of extra help, but shoving him in with the rest of the kids in elementary school in the 50s worked at the time.

      Horace Pinker

      November 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm

  12. I don’t think he’s had the best upbringing in terms of non-monetary things and intangibles. His dad is really old, he has a bunch of adult half-siblings, and he’s basically an only child. He’s extremely sheltered and has lived his whole life ensconced in a giant building in the middle of 5th avenue. I don’t think growing up in Manhattan or big cities and downtowns is as good for kids as growing up in more neighborhood-y areas in the outer boroughs or in the suburbs or rural areas. You miss out on the freedom and adventures and camraderie you have with other kids. Despite his wealthy background, I don’t think he’s had a good or easy childhood.

    Tom

    November 25, 2016 at 4:55 pm

  13. it makes sense that barron might have problems given that melania had him when she was like 39 or something. i feel like the spike ina utism and developmental disorders is caused by lots of mothers holding off having kids. i have autism for that reason myself probably.

    james n.s.w

    November 25, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    • The spike in “autism” is due to the Overton window on what is considered a charismatic male shifting one standard deviation to the left, in accordance with our enlightened, sexually liberated culture.

      OldTimer

      November 25, 2016 at 7:51 pm

      • only someone who doesnt actually have the ‘bergers’ would say that. its a neurological condition that affects just about every aspect of your functioning (the social dysfunction is to a great degree a consequence of the impairments it causes in every other respect, from increased mental processing speed times to motor ability impairments) and even the way you look. if it was just about charisma itd be infinitely more bearable.

        james n.s.w

        November 25, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      • And also a female-dominated environment in schools which apply female standards to young boys. Whoever made that video didn’t consider that maybe Barron was intentionally being rude to his father because that’s what young boys do. But many a case of “autism” or “attention deficit disorder” come from female teachers assuming it’s horribly abnormal when young boys are rude or like to run around.

        Hwhite

        November 25, 2016 at 10:13 pm

  14. Barron is my second favorite Trump kid, next to Ivanka. When I watched him on stage while Trump gave his acceptance speech, I saw a man who’s already ready to lead, not a 10-year-old boy. If he’s on the autism spectrum, perhaps that will provide him with the emotional detachment that’s necessary to remain calm while making the life or death decisions that he’ll have to make every day when he takes power after Ivanka in 2032.

    I’ve never thought of sperg insults as anything other than gentle ribbing on blogs like this one. Blogs like Lion’s attract high-IQ, high functioning people on the autism spectrum. My brother is one of those people, although he doesn’t comment here, and he makes a lot of sperg jokes himself.

    Horace Pinker

    November 25, 2016 at 7:33 pm

  15. He didn’t yawn out of boredom. He yawned because it was 3am and past bedtime.

    Mack Schuylkill

    November 25, 2016 at 8:16 pm

  16. 1/ You’ll notice that when O’Donnell said this Trump didn’t blast her like he normally does.

    2/ During the debates Clinton praised Trump for raising such great kids. She knows

    Dave

    November 25, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    • He’s never “blasted” anything about his children, I think.

      IHTG

      November 26, 2016 at 4:35 am

  17. Lion you don’t owe me any favors but if you did I would ask that you delete this post – you have done it before. Let Rosie be Rosie, poor ignorant woman. You are better than that!

    howitzer daniel

    November 25, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    • Rosie O’Donnell already let the cat out of the bag, and it’s not anyone’s fault that Barron was born with a disability.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 25, 2016 at 11:39 pm

      • It’s totally unsubstantiated at this point. To me every ten year old is autistic. They all are bad conversationalists, have short attention spans, lack a proper sense of humor and irony, are emotionally fragile and have no appreciation for speeches. That doesn’t make them medically autistic. That just makes them ten years old.

        I think Baron looks more mature than most ten-year-olds and his eyes contact and facial expressions seem normal.

        Dan

        November 26, 2016 at 10:48 am

    • If you’re making an assumption that this politically ‘hurts’ Trump, I would almost say the opposite.

      The Philosopher

      November 26, 2016 at 5:34 am

  18. Trump should own it. Having a kid on the spectrum humanizes him. He’s not the next Hitler. He’s just a dad trying to make this world better for his kids.

    Dave

    November 26, 2016 at 5:03 am

  19. If he is mildly on the so-called autistic spectrum, he will be a good test subject for what gets the ladies. He’s rich, handsome with seemingly attentive parents and good schooling. Will that win out over significant social awkwardness? I think it will. I predict he’ll be quite popular with the ladies (or at least the shallow, superficial ones most men find most intriguing).

    trey

    November 26, 2016 at 7:30 am

  20. he is 10 years old, lol. how do you know he is “handsome”. i have no idea how hes going to look when he has concluded puberty. the two other trump guys arent that good looking (especially eric); it’s the female children in the family that turned out attractive, for obvious reasons.

    james n.s.w

    November 26, 2016 at 8:50 am

    • They’d look better if they didn’t have their hair slicked back like Grandpa Munster.

      destructure

      November 26, 2016 at 9:21 am

  21. alex

    November 26, 2016 at 9:36 am

  22. Harry Truman’s daughter was considered rather odd during his White House years. Nonetheless, “the ‘greatest mutational health hazard to the human genome is fertile older males'”.

    aandrews

    November 26, 2016 at 10:21 am

  23. Hiding behind Rosie O’Donnell is pretty weak Lion. A quick look at her twitter feed shows she is mentally unstable.

    Steve@steve.com

    November 26, 2016 at 11:02 am

    • Nevertheless, she has 918,000 Twitter followers and I have a mere 497, plus the story about the tweet was carried by Fox News, so I am not doing anything to publicize a story: it has already been publicized.

      There is already a public controversy, I am merely pointing out that O’Donnell is most likely correct that Barron has some sort of disability but although she was wrong to publicize it. (On the other hand, conservatives have been saying mean things about Chelsea since she was a little girl, so this should not come as a shock to conservatives that some liberals don’t think that the President’s kid is off limits.)

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 26, 2016 at 11:08 am

      • Point granted about Rosie. Not sure there is enough material on Barron to make any assessment though. Happy belated Thanksgiving Lion, I hope you had a good one.

        steve@steve.com

        November 26, 2016 at 12:23 pm

  24. Forget Barron, what about Trump? Trump himself says he (Trump) has no friends. He shows abundant evidence of having ADHD. He gorges on TV. He doesn’t read books. He was sent to a kind of military reform school as a boy because of behavioral difficulties. Does he converse with his wife, who can barely speak English? I don’t think he has dyslexia because he reads a Teleprompter without obvious effort, although maybe the words on the Teleprompter are written backwards (that’s a ekoj).

    Mark Caplan

    November 26, 2016 at 1:19 pm

  25. Fun fact: There actually is a Trump with a developmental disability: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Trump-family-gives-back-to-agency-that-helps-4590816.php

    IHTG

    November 26, 2016 at 5:12 pm


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