Lion of the Blogosphere

Millions of people voted illegally

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Is it true?

No more true or false than Hillary Clinton’s claim that Trump is a puppet of Putin and the KGB. If HRC can make absurd claims like that, why can’t Trump?

But this tweet is brilliant because it sets up Trump presenting to Congress a federal “fair elections” law which requires voters to present valid photo ID for all elections. Maybe Steve Bannon was behind it?

We can only hope that unlike cuckservatives who let the MSM and the liberals ride roughshod over them, Trump is going to fix things.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

November 27, 2016 at 9:30 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. “But this tweet is brilliant because…”

    Yep. That’s what I thought. It also frames the recount in terms of illegal immigration. And the more they argue that it’s not true the more attention they give to it.

    destructure

    November 27, 2016 at 10:10 pm

  2. You believe everything that crook in a crooked business believes (or at least says). March 1933 is upon us. God save the United States.

    Anthony

    November 27, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    • Crooked Hillary is no good.

      Glengarry

      November 28, 2016 at 4:58 am

    • “March 1933 is upon us.”

      Right. Happy days are here again!

      gothamette

      November 28, 2016 at 7:49 am

  3. Lion, please post on this Times article about NYC diners declining:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/nyregion/diners-new-york-city.html

    NYC was one of the few places with still a decent amount of diners around. Outside NYC there aren’t many diners around, just crummy fake diner chains like Denny’s.

    Tom

    November 27, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    • Diners: the food is really bad, and if you’re under the age of 60 you’re likely to be the youngest person in the restaurant.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      November 27, 2016 at 11:45 pm

      • Agreed. The food is always that horrible Sysco crap. It’s overpriced and the coffee is equally bad. I used to marvel at the sheer length of the menu: tons of choices, all of which are mediocre (who…WHO orders the fish?).

        SWPL2

        November 28, 2016 at 8:46 am

      • Ordering seafood at a diner = the triumph of hope over experience

        Greg Pandatshang

        November 28, 2016 at 11:18 am

      • Copelia’s at 14th Street is an exceptional diner. Open 24 hours too

        Melchizidek

        November 28, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    • Manhattan doesn’t have too many, but the outer boroughs (and especially Long Island and Jersey) have many good diners.

      Renault

      November 28, 2016 at 7:15 am

    • One nice thing about the article is that it contrasts “coffee shop” (i.e., diner) with “coffee house” (hipster/student/gig-economy hangout). People outside of NYC seem not to recognize the distinction.

      Anthony

      November 28, 2016 at 7:20 am

      • I recognize a distinction between diners and coffee shops, which seems to escape you. Just because food is served doesn’t mean it’s a diner. Denny’s for example, wasn’t a diner. There’s a diner scene in one of the films Lion covered, Desperately Seeking Susan.

        Explainer21

        November 28, 2016 at 11:33 am

    • Here is another blog post about diners:

      http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-lyric-to-tivoli.html

      But I agree with the other comments. Diners really were great in the past, but at some point in the last twenty years most of the ones in New York closed and the remaining hold-outs turned to crap and might as well have closed too. There may still be a few decent diners in the deep outer boroughs and the suburbs. But in the center of the city, if you eat at a diner you are pretty much guaranteed a depressing atmosphere and bad food. Its too bad.

      Ed

      November 28, 2016 at 9:27 am

  4. Even better, he can have the FBI check the voting histories of DACA and DAPA applicants. It’s just checking electoral records.

    Thagomizer

    November 27, 2016 at 10:34 pm

  5. Is it true?

    No.

    He lost the popular vote only because Gary Johnson stole some of his base. Without him 100% of those Libertarian and Trucon voters would have realized the genius of Trump and voted for him.

    That he hasn’t blamed Johnson for the popular vote is a sign of Trump’s great humility and wisdom.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    November 27, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    • Rifleman

      November 28, 2016 at 12:12 am

    • “He lost the popular vote only because Gary Johnson stole some of his base. ”

      You’re just making it up. That’s not how pro-LP voters work. You don’t realize that the non-LP voters vote for deadlock unless they get attacked.The reality of US politics is the pro-libertarians have controlled the center for the last few elections. They’re strong with youth and the military. They’re a cultural group across all parties. Attacking Libertarians is as politically stupid as attacking Jews. They’re not big enough so you can win the l election just with them. But they can sure make sure you lose the election.

      The Libertarian Poll Data workgroup is way ahead of everyone and has real data. https://www.facebook.com/groups/736882696414329/ They were predicting a Trump electoral landslide and Johnson at 3%-4%.

      Clinton lost the DEM libertarian voters by attacking Libertarians. These were also her GOTV people. They voted for deadlock and generally no one for Prez, AND didn’t GOTV so a lot of Blacks stayed home–no ride. She really screwed herself, but that’s the Left for you.

      Trump said nice things about Libertarians and GOP libertarians saw him as more or at least as progressive as Clinton. Again they voted for deadlock and against Clinton attacking libertarians. They went big for him in any close state.

      Many GOP voters in CA stayed home because what’s the point? Remove CA and Clinton’s popular vote is basically gone.

      Libertarians gave Trump the election and crushed Clinton. They know it. He knows it. She’s in denial.

      Robert

      November 28, 2016 at 6:00 am

    • That he hasn’t blamed Johnson for the popular vote is a sign of Trump’s great humility and wisdom.

      I think it’s far more likely that he just hasn’t been exposed to that argument. Or maybe he was but it just got pushed out of his mind by reading about millions of illegal votes on infowars or where ever.

      Magnavox

      November 28, 2016 at 7:28 am

      • Blaming Johnson accomplishes nothing. For the same reason Clinton’s team isn’t blaming Stein for her defeat when they can point the finger at “fake news” and Russian subterfuge.

        By raising the issue of illegal voting Trump is making a case for voter ID laws. If we had voter ID laws a non-citizen terrorist like Arcan Cetin wouldn’t have been allowed to vote three times, and in fact he wouldn’t have committed a terrorist act at all if we’d deported him for voting illegally.

        Richard

        November 28, 2016 at 10:21 am

      • I think it’s far more likely that he just hasn’t been exposed to that argument. Or maybe he was but it just got pushed out of his mind by reading about millions of illegal votes on infowars or where ever.

        Wrong. Trump never gets distracted – he only appears to when he has a master strategy in the works.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 28, 2016 at 6:05 pm

      • How many Mormons did he lose because of McMullian and Romney?

        Not enough to close the popular vote gap, but a good enough amount to be part of the answer.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 28, 2016 at 6:06 pm

      • Clinton lost the DEM libertarian voters by attacking Libertarians. These were also her GOTV people. They voted for deadlock and generally no one for Prez, AND didn’t GOTV so a lot of Blacks stayed home–no ride. She really screwed herself, but that’s the Left for you.

        Unions are the lifeblood of the Democrat’s GOTV machine.

        But I suppose it is sensible for him to not antagonize Libertarians. Those who were reluctant to vote for him in 2016 could well end up in his 2020 column if he plays nice with Johnson.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        November 28, 2016 at 6:09 pm

  6. “Is it true?”

    Here’s what I don’t get:

    Whenever I go out to grab a beer, I need to show my ID. It’s inconvenient, but after awhile you get used to it. It’s part of life in America.

    So why should it be easier and more convenient to vote than to buy a beer? Frankly, I’d rather have 19 year olds buy beer and act irresponsibly, than have the possibility of voter fraud run amok.

    If you’re too stupid and lazy to bring your ID to the voting booth, then good, I don’t want you voting!

    The Democrats have waged jihad on voter ID laws. Of course they have something to hide. If they’re going to strike doubt into the integrity of voting in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, then it’s only right that an even more onerous one be brought on California.

    And Democrats made it their explicit policy to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants because they believed illegals would vote Democratic. Why should I believe they didn’t see fit to grant a short cut and let illegals vote anyway?

    Sid

    November 27, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    • Just by doing some basic Googling you can see that there are already liberals who believe non-citizens should be able to vote, and there are movements afoot in some municipalities to allow non-citizen voting.

      Hermes

      November 28, 2016 at 12:32 am

    • Sid, here’s the problem. In most states you had Voter ID cards absolutely free until a few years ago. But then the DEMS started this Orwellian integrated ID thing after 9/11 so now you need to show State ID that costs a lot of time to get plus to $100 when all is done in many cases. Hell, it cost me over $400 to get all my paperwork together–certified copies, pay an ID lapse fee, pay various petty fines, etc. That’s a big cost for poor DEM voters, a week of pay, out of the question for those on welfare. So they suddenly can’t vote.

      It’s a hidden poll tax. The DEMS don’t like to put it that way, because that would mean they would have to attack their cherished ID program. The GOPe sure as hell won’t put it that way, and mumble about immigration instead.

      Robert

      November 28, 2016 at 6:13 am

    • gothamette

      November 28, 2016 at 7:50 am

      • Thank you, thank you, Gothamette.
        Great video.

        Nedd Ludd

        November 28, 2016 at 11:27 am

      • You’re welcome. Actually, I do think there is a problem with voter registration/suppression in the US, but it’s more to do with rural/urban than black/white.

        gothamette

        November 28, 2016 at 1:57 pm

      • I know this is obvious, but securing the electorate is just as important as securing the borders – partly to wrest control again of non-PC issues and move the centre ground back to the right. Trump needs to introduce policies such as voter ID as a priority. And it helps that the majority of people of all ethnicities find ID cards perfectly acceptable (at least that’s what I suspect is true). Videos like this need to be used in a campaign to overcome the rhetoric that the left will throw at voter ID.

        The lioncub

        November 28, 2016 at 11:50 am

      • Yes. Spread the word around about this video. I especially loved the black guy in the black T shirt (with an eagle logo, if memory serves). He had a kind of cool disgust for the hipster idiocy that was pretty impressive.

        And they all knew what the internet was, and how to use it! Wow!

        gothamette

        November 28, 2016 at 1:59 pm

  7. The problem is in the documentation required to get your voter registration in the first place. It needs to be a certified copy of a birth certificate.

    CamelCaseRob

    November 28, 2016 at 12:11 am

    • Many of the voters are Kenyan marxists who were not born in the US. I hope we get LONG FORM birth certs from these f**kers.

      The Philosopher

      November 28, 2016 at 3:55 am

    • It has been well established that there are millions of illegals on the voter roles. The only dispute is how many of them successfully end up voting.

      Otis the Sweaty

      November 28, 2016 at 8:01 am

  8. Is it true? Yes.

    But who cares. It’s great rhetoric and great rhetoric beats facts. This is how the left plays and wins. Now it’s our turn.

    Andrew E.

    November 28, 2016 at 12:43 am

  9. Lion,

    Not that it matters much to me one way or the other, but I seem to remember you saying that you didn’t like using the term “cuckservative.” It looks like it’s part of your working vocabulary now, though. Did something change?

    Joey Junger

    November 28, 2016 at 1:33 am

  10. No evidence?
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

    Trump’s electoral college count would be higher if only citizens were counted too.

    Melchizidek

    November 28, 2016 at 2:15 am

    • I don’t remember much coverage here of the incredible Project Veritas tapes proving voter fraud, voter intimidation, illegal campaign coordination/collusion, and numerous other felonies which reached straight to the top of the Democrat party. Without massive Democrat voter fraud Trump would have won the popular vote and five other states as well like Virginia, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, and likely his home state.

      redarmyvodka

      November 28, 2016 at 3:45 pm

  11. More seriously, those found to have voted illegally, have committed voter fraud and should be deported.

    The Philosopher

    November 28, 2016 at 3:55 am

  12. First of all, the whole mandate idea is stupid. It’s only relevant if someone wins with an overwhelming majority. Popular vote only matters in discussions of whether we should keep the electoral college.

    Second, even if the mandate mattered, the vast majority of voters just vote on party lines anyway. In this election in particular a lot of votes for one candidate were actually against the other one. Even the voters who actually were pro-Trump may agree with some of his stances but not some others. I find the mandate idea ridiculous. Obviously he should pursue the platform he ran on and was elected on, unless he gains some new information that genuinely changes his views.

    I doubt there is anywhere near as much vote fraud as he claims. But citizens as a whole need to be able to trust our elections. Fair elections should be something everyone can agree on, but even that has become partisan. How can anyone care so much about voter ID and not care about proprietary electronic voting machines without paper trails? Why can’t we agree gerrymandering is bad? I can’t respect anyone who supports any form of cheating in elections, including suppression of voting rights or free speech.

    Aric

    November 28, 2016 at 6:37 am

    • Republican President.

      Republican Senate.

      Republican House.

      Mandate.

      Period.

      hard9bf

      November 28, 2016 at 10:06 am

  13. It was a ridiculous tweet because now Trump has himself called the legitimacy of the results into question. The idea that millions of illegals somehow get organized and off their asses to vote when 40% of the regular population of the country can’t even be bothered is prima facie absurd anyway, and even if true made no real difference to the results in California or New York, the places that kind of fraud would be most likely. Voter IDs and voter fraud are actually themselves silly cuckservative themes that the Republicans use to pussyfoot around the demographic changes happening to the country. Of course the popular vote favors Dems, and it is just going to get worse, because we keep importing millions of legal immigrants who vote Dem, and older white people are dying faster than they can be replaced.

    Peter Akuleyev

    November 28, 2016 at 6:42 am

    • It is estimated that up to 11% of non citizen residents vote. Considering that about 40% of citizens vote, I don’t find the non-citizen estimate unbelievable on it’s face.

      Otis the Sweaty

      November 28, 2016 at 9:21 am

      • 11%, even if true, gets you to 2 million. A lot of those are probably illegal Chinese and Russians who overwhelmingly support Trump, cancelling out the illegal Iranians, Pakistanis and Arabs who voted for Hillary. I doubt a significant number of illegal Latinos voted, or even knew there was an election.

        Peter Akuleyev

        November 29, 2016 at 2:05 am

    • It jeopardizes nothing because everyone knows, including the Dems and Trump, that all the vote fraud overwhelmingly goes to the Dems. Any vote fraud uncovered will expand Trump’s win.

      Andrew E.

      November 28, 2016 at 11:35 am

    • Two problems with your post. First, the percentage of non-voting citizens signifies nothing about illegals’ incentive to vote, because the latter see a direct connection between Dem candidates and continued welfare. Second, that Clinton would have carried California and NY regardless of vote fraud is irrelevant, because it’s the popular totals that the Dems are leaning on to question Trump’s legitimacy. So absent vote fraud, the Dems lose their meme.v

      Marty

      November 28, 2016 at 11:48 am

  14. The Philosopher

    November 28, 2016 at 7:33 am

    • The Philosopher

      November 28, 2016 at 8:53 am

      • The key to whether this is compelling or not to you is:

        1. The physiognomy….dropped earlobes, and asymmetric face correlates with paedophilia. https://www.ipce.info/library/journal-article/minor-physical-anomalies-prenatal-pedophilia

        2. They changed the logo of the Besta (Beast) pizza joint as soon as the rumours started spreading on 4chan.

        3. Remember Franklin, Nebraska when another child paedo ring was scotched, linked to George H W Bush. http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/franklin.htm

        4. Epstein’s black book.

        5. The wikileaks emails betray people obviously speaking in code. The 2nd video shows links to satanic rituals.

        6. The owner is gay….most paedophiles are males with homosexual inclinations.

        7. Biden!!!! Its disgusting:

        The Philosopher

        November 28, 2016 at 9:00 am

      • @Philosopher

        Your source says that undetached earlobes correlate with higher likelihood of pedophilia.

        Richard

        November 28, 2016 at 11:40 am

  15. Why indeed would Soros contribute to a pizza shop?!

    In any case, why are Obama, Biden and Hilary doing fundraisers in a pizza shop?!!

    As I said in the pumpkinperson’s thread, most pols are sexually blackmailed. They should hold hands and jump together so as to expose Master once and for all.

    Who is Master….

    Those paintings are horrific from the abuse victim. I will never forget that. Pure evil.

    The Philosopher

    November 28, 2016 at 9:05 am

    • Note the way at one point the man keeps interrupting Biden from touching and talking into his daughter’s ear by using formalities.

      He is socially intelligent to know what’s going on and to cockblock Biden….

      There is a hot mike version where Biden whispers to the child: “I’M SO HORNY TO MEET A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL…YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT THAT MOVIE WITH MY DAUGHTER” (upon noticing mother is eavesdropping)”

      See 26:44 on vid 2.

      Jesus H Christ.

      The Philosopher

      November 28, 2016 at 9:10 am

      • Hahaha New York Times pushed a “fake news” story on this. Its amazing how the Illusion contorts itself to keep people intellectually and psychologically enslaved. If it really is absurd and a wild conspiracy theory on an underground inet forum (which it sounds to most people), why debunk it in a national newspaper?

        Master is getting his 150IQ people into a room again. The problem is the internet. They will have to censor it explicitly,instead of hoping the “fake news” convinces 120IQ+ people from joining up dots.

        The Philosopher

        November 28, 2016 at 9:19 am

  16. Just one more reason we need a biometric national ID. Time to replace our old cardboard Social Security cards with a 21st century version.

    Luke Lea (@lukelea)

    November 28, 2016 at 9:20 am

  17. Shooting in Ohio State University

    IHTG

    November 28, 2016 at 10:29 am

  18. Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections?

    From 2014:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

    Lab Guy

    November 28, 2016 at 11:49 am

  19. In ten years, my children might be attending William Jefferson Clinton High School. In 20 years, my grandchildren might be attending Barack Hussein Obama High School. In 30 years, my grandchildren might be attending Donald J. Trump High School.

    Smartest Woman on the Internet

    November 28, 2016 at 12:04 pm


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