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Kevin Drum needs to make his case in more detail

Kevin Drum has a column in Mother Jones where he admits that urban educated liberals seer at less-educated non-urban white people, the kind of white people who love Donald Trump.

He ends his column:

Anyway, I’m curious: do you accept this? Is it as obvious to you as it is to me? Or do you think I’m overstating things? Do I really need to make my case in more detail?

Based on the comments, it’s obvious that his readers don’t get it, so he needs to write more and more columns about this.

As I’ve previously explained, educated liberal whites view blue-collar whites as deserving of their economic plight because they were too stupid or too lazy to take advantage of their white privilege to get ahead. People like that deserve to be sneered at, don’t they? In contrast, it’s racism (which is the most evil thing in the world) to sneer at blacks because they are victims of a racist society and not to blamed for their economic and social predicament.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 10, 2016 at 10:54 am

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  1. For some reason, punching down doesn’t seem to bother urban people when it is aimed at rural white people.

    ScarletNumber

    December 10, 2016 at 11:01 am

    • They don’t believe it’s “down” because whites are the majority

      Jason Liu

      December 10, 2016 at 1:15 pm

  2. ~30 years ago, who would thought crime ridden Manhattan would be the SWPL mecca?

    JS

    December 10, 2016 at 11:27 am

  3. In contrast, it’s racism (which is the most evil thing in the world) to sneer at blacks because they are victims of a racist society and not to blamed for their economic and social predicament.

    Hamiltonian Capitalism is real elitism (the electoral college was one of Hamilton’s favorite projects, and he backed it because he only barely trusted white Americans to vote) and within this system there is no place for either blacks or Hispanics:

    https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2016/12/10/immigration-restriction-and-hispanic-population-growth/

    Consistent in this regard with the noble sentiments of Abraham Lincoln and his ideological predecessors and heirs, we at Pragmatically Distributed turn to the topic of bringing Hispanic demographic increase to its well-deserved halt.

    Specifically we assess the impact on Hispanic population growth by merely deporting all illegal aliens and deterring new illegals, with no changes to legal immigration. Isolated from other actions, the effect of turning back just illegal immigration would be significant:

    Since 1990 the net annual increase of the Hispanic population has been in the range of 1.4 to 1.5 million persons. Assuming net annual illegal immigration is at least 500,000, blocking new illegal Hispanics would slow their annual growth rate to 900,000 to 1 million. Assuming illegal immigrants give birth to 400,000 to 500,000 children each year, the removal of existing illegal immigrants (who when off United States soil would be unable to give birth to new citizens) would decrease their overall population growth to only 400,000 to 600,000 a year.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    December 10, 2016 at 11:33 am

  4. Let’s all celebrate the Yuletide spirit by laughing at white trash.

    THE GREAT AMERICAN TRAILER PARK CHRISTMAS MUSICAL
    Book By Betsy Kelso, Music and Lyrics By David Nehls

    December 7 – 23, 2016

    We are pulling our trailer off its blocks and taking it on the road! This year’s trashiest Christmas celebration will be held at the Charlotte Ballet’s Center for Dance. That’s right: Class meet Crass!

    WARNING: This show contains crude people in a trailer park.

    http://www.atcharlotte.org/the-great-american-trailer-park-christmas-musical/

    Mark Caplan

    December 10, 2016 at 11:53 am

  5. sneer

    IHTG

    December 10, 2016 at 12:06 pm

  6. hey new yorkers: what was new york like prior to the crime peak in the mid 90s? im aware that it was a dirty dangerous place ina lot of ways, but even then i cant imagine manhattan still wasnt hte financial centre of the u.s and it still had a tonne of ritzy areas with upscale people in it.

    james n.s.w

    December 10, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    • If you watch the 1977 movie Saturday Night Fever, the subplot where the girlfriend discovers the superiority of Manhattan and wants nothing to do with her prole guido boyfriend after that, shows you that not much has changed.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 10, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      • Anyone who grew up in NYC before Giuliani was mayor, will tell you that besides a few neighborhoods like the West Village/Soho and Uptown, most areas of Manhattan were dangerous. Even wealthy people and wealthy neighborhoods were not immune to crime.

        I was robbed at gunpoint during the early 90s by 3 black guys in the Lincoln Center area, while returning home from a concert. In the same time period, a friend of mine was attacked by a few Asian gang members, who called him an “effing white boy” and then assaulted him, because they thought he was sneering at them.

        JS

        December 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    • New York in the 1970s and 80s was not a bad place. I lived there. It was shabbier, everybody smoked, the scourge of graffiti blighted public spaces, but it was still New York City and it was affordable. The menace of crime is overstated because then, like now, it was mostly confined to the Black and Latino ghettos.

      Daniel

      December 10, 2016 at 3:57 pm

      • “New York in the 1970s and 80s was not a bad place.”

        Not necessarily bad, just seedy and filled with fags who gave each other golden showers. Fabulous as they would say.

        white girlz for all

        December 10, 2016 at 4:49 pm

      • I can’t believe I have to respond to this. NYC was definitely a bad place. I was there in the 70s and 80s, too. DEATH WISH was real (e.g. Getz, Bernard). You took your life in your hands every time you stepped outside and that was assuming that someone hadn’t broken into your home the night before to try to murder you. I never felt safe on the streets of New York, even in the “good” parts of town.

        Robert the Wise

        December 13, 2016 at 9:15 am

      • You forgot Asians, who were into gangs and did attack White people, although this was not very common. Speaking of proles or guidos, there was the mafia and White metal heads were quite contentious.

        JS

        December 13, 2016 at 3:55 pm

  7. Get a load of this false equivalency in the comments: “Sneers from the political right to the political left are never as widely or strongly condemned as those from the political left to the political right…”

    Wow, it’s almost like the right represents normal people and the left represents a small number of urban, out of touch freaks

    Jason Liu

    December 10, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    • If everyone voted democrats would completely wipe the floor with republicans every single time. So a significant majority at least think that the democrats represent them.

      magnavox

      December 10, 2016 at 6:09 pm

      • Yeah, because of blacks and immigrants. If every white person voted Republicans would win every election by over 20 points.

        Otis the Sweaty

        December 10, 2016 at 7:40 pm

      • Remember that FDR, the first modern Democrat, became president because most whites voted for him. Back then, blacks voted Republican.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 10, 2016 at 9:05 pm

      • ” If every white person voted Republicans would win every election by over 20 points.”

        As I’ve said 20 times, there are 47 million unregistered white voters.

        “Back then, blacks voted Republican.”

        90% of 10% is a minuscule number, because before FDR, most blacks didn’t/couldn’t vote, only the colored elite.

        Trump is persona non grata among the cultural elite. If he were to show up at a performance it would be worse than what happened to Pence. I read the Instagram accounts of several members of the New York City Ballet and they are open in their loathing of them. Ballerinas.

        I also read some cultural blogs and they were spitting blood on November 9. The hate is fervent, deep, and won’t end.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      • Trump is persona non grata among the cultural elite.

        Check out Seinfeld, Colin Quinn interview here. Funny.

        Talks about Obama on his internet show. Asked if Trump will be on….I guess you know the answer.

        The interview is about NYC from the 1970s vs today. Good to talk to Trump about that.

        Rifleman

        December 12, 2016 at 9:41 am

  8. “As I’ve previously explained, educated liberal whites view blue-collar whites as deserving of their economic plight because they were too stupid or too lazy to take advantage of their white privilege to get ahead. “

    I think some of it has to do with the fact that they have different political views. If they had the same views then they wouldn’t be so contemptuous.

    destructure

    December 10, 2016 at 3:26 pm

  9. This is how progressivism works at this point in time and this is why its religious followers are annoying: progressivism is an all or nothing ideology. If anyone has a single notch on the cultural can’t-do list, they’re a raging redneck who deserves to be outcast and sneered at. These people really are that puritanical. I have a lot more in common with coastal liberals than I do rural rednecks, like 85/15 more. That doesn’t matter because I own a gun, I like to go camping and hiking, and I don’t feel the need to go to therapy to correct my wrong think. That means I’m out, period.

    Drum’s last line about “powerful group sneering at a vulnerable group” is blatant projection. It’s absolute BS and a double standard, because apparently liberal whites aren’t really white they’re just liberal. It’s also a common progressive diversionary/distraction tactic, to divert/distract themselves! If urban liberals can actively sneer down at rural rednecks and get away with it, which they openly have been for a long time, obviously rural rednecks aren’t powerful.

    white girlz for all

    December 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    • “That doesn’t matter because I own a gun, I like to go camping and hiking”

      No they would be okay with that. In fact a lot of SWPLs love camping and hiking. The gun stuff isn’t that big to them either, most liberals agree that they need to drop the anti gun stuff for the sake of winning elections.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 10, 2016 at 7:42 pm

      • I’m a member of Appalachian Mountain Club. The diversity of the membership is amazing, and I mean diversity in the old fashioned sense of the word.

        You find zero SJWs among the older folks, although of course most (not all) are libs, but SJW-ism is rampant among the younger members. And style wise it is interesting that the younger people are more into EMS/REI type clothing, while the older folks wear old woolen sweaters and work pants to hike.

        Camping…there is a certain kind of camping that they’re into. As silly about their clothing as SJWs are, they tend to like very basic kind of camping, the more primitive the better.

        There is also a tendency towards hiking whimsy. I heard once something about a guy who took a tuba with him to the Appalachian trail, or something like that. Or hiking in kilts. SJWs ….what a crew.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 10:32 pm

  10. I think what we have here is a failure to communicate. The Leftist Claim of “Education” is obviously a specious claim. Those degrees they have are less impressive than the Diploma from Wossamatta U earned by Bullwinkle Moose and Rocket J. Squirrel for being on their football scholarship. People who get their fashions from Hollywood whores wearing diamonds and tablecloth patterns without underwear at the Gilded Glob Awards are far from the class of the WASP Vanderbilts with their Upper Crust tastes for Classical Music and Greco-Roman Culture. These spoon fed idiots who pretentiously claim they are elitists while quoting from Xena the Warrior Princess and using Buffyverse slang are just sad deluded pretenders with worthless cardboard diplomas. Their erroneous takes on life are legendary. Their philosophy of Muppet Jedis and Narcissistic, Nihilistic Views of pointless hedonism is all sound and fury, signifying NOTHING. Their pathetic status seeking and rent-seeking careers as low-paid political sycophants of imbecilic self-absorbed buffoons with delusions of grandeur and the world visions more suitable to Goldfish living in a small fishbowl shows how pathetic and ignorant they are. Flyover country IS AMERICA. Their tiny fantasyland is small bits of blue decadence and decay of ruined ghettos and gated self-imprisoned freaks surrounded by Western Civilization. The Real Americans that built this country are getting damned sick and tired of this tumor that sucks them dry and then spits in their face.

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 10, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    • Leftists confuse being educated with being professional. Sure they can gain status by being educated, but it’s limited because they aren’t smart enough to be educated professionals. Yet many professionals are constantly at the receiving end of the anti-racist crusade and risk being outcast from polite society because they secretly avoid NAMs for the obvious reasons.

      white girlz for all

      December 10, 2016 at 7:53 pm

      • “Sure they can gain status by being educated, but it’s limited because they aren’t smart enough to be educated professionals.”

        Yes, I’ve noticed this as well.

        Robert

        December 12, 2016 at 10:36 am

  11. Let’s apply Jonathan Haidt’s moral foundation hypothesis to this issue and what else we know about political HBD.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory

    Care: cherishing and protecting others; opposite of harm.
    Fairness or proportionality: rendering justice according to shared rules; opposite of cheating.
    Liberty: the loathing of tyranny; opposite of oppression.
    Loyalty or ingroup: standing with your group, family, nation; opposite of betrayal.
    Authority or respect: submitting to tradition and legitimate author; opposite of subversion.
    Sanctity or purity: abhorrence for disgusting things, foods, actions; opposite of degradation.

    Kevin Drum appears to be a cis-liberal. Someone who was born with a liberal brain and identifies as a liberal. Many of his objections are targeted at trans-liberals. Those born with a conservative brain, but identify as liberals.

    Kevin Drum perceives Trump voters as a misunderstood and misguided victim-group. He wants to reach out. He wants to care.
    Trans-liberals on the other hand value loyalty, respect and purity. They double down post-Trump, demonize the out-group and police treasonous thinking. Hillary is a trans-liberal.

    Lion writes:

    educated liberal whites view blue-collar whites as deserving of their economic plight because they were too stupid or too lazy to take advantage of their white privilege to get ahead.

    That is a textbook example of the just-world hypothesis and therefore of innate conservatism. Cis-conservatives express the same views, but target them at poor people across the board.
    Transliberals believe in white privilege, so they can excuse black poverty out of fairness.

    Contrarian

    December 10, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    • One of the reasons Democrats lost is because THEY DON’T CARE. For all their sweet talk about “the poor”, and “marginalised groups”, these people are the coldest, most uncaring and self-centered selfish and exclusionary people in America. They won’t even deign to talk to anyone who doesn’t accept their mindless memes. Whether its “people starving in Africa” or “Trannies in the girls’ restroom”, its just a fashionable status whoring thing. They treat minorities like pets. They all gather around to gawk at a token minority like its a museum exhibit or something. Its nauseating to see them preen and pander to this obviously alien lifeform which they view as a pitiful creature in need for their sordid flattery and posturing patronizing attitudes. I suppose in their pinheads, they imagine themselves as some high arbiters of some mystical dark god who is here to be bowed to and served, so they can bestow their kind false words and pitiful empty promises on these unfortunate creatures dumb enough to play along with this wretched dehumanising exercise of patronizing lower lifeforms.

      Joshua Sinistar

      December 10, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    • The workers are the first victims of Communism and the extreme left…

      Robert

      December 12, 2016 at 10:38 am

  12. SNL just had a Weekend Update skit where Kate McKinnon, dressed as Angela Merkel, comments on Trump being named as Person of the Year. The whole thing is a sneer against Trump, with the requisite moaning about Hillary & Obama. I won’t link to it here. You can find it on Youtube.

    Nothing illustrates better than that the chasm between Us and Them. They think Merkel is great. I can’t understand some of the comments. Some of them are from Germans who love Merkel.

    gothamette

    December 11, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    • Leftists love Merkel because they believe she is open minded and compassionate. By opening Germany’s borders to throat slitters, she’s atoning for Hitler’s crimes. She’s proving that Germans can be good liberals like all the other Western elites. Liberals are so simpleminded and naive that they believe if you’re welcoming to immigrants then there will be no problems. The culture and number of immigrants are not relevant. And if you question any of this “wisdom” then you’re a racist.

      Lewis Medlock

      December 12, 2016 at 12:25 pm


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