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Obama administration once again accusing Russia of hacking

In 2012, when Romney said that Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat, Obama mocked him and said “the 1980s are now calling and they want their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years.”

Hillary told us that Trump is too dangerous to be in charge of the nuclear codes, but now they are telling us that Russia wanted to help Trump win the election even though all of our nuclear weapons are pointed at Russia.

U.S. intelligence agencies are known to provide fake intelligence when asked for by the president. When Bush wanted to gin up support for war against Iraq, intelligence agencies provided “proof” that Saddam was hiding nuclear weapons, and Colin Powell even showed us videos of it on a television address to the American people. (And I admit that I fell for it and believed that Powell was telling me the true facts.)

That Russia is responsible for Trump winning the election is just too convenient for the Democrats to be believed. It sounds too much like propaganda to delegitimize Trump’s presidency and blame the Russians for their loss instead of their own failure to connect with the voters.

There was obviously hacking going on, but people’s emails are hacked into all the time by non-governmental hackers. If it was really a super-sophisticated government spying operation, then maybe it would have been sophisticated enough so that it couldn’t have been traced to the Russian government. It’s easy enough for me to believe that non-governmental hackers supported Trump because hackers are prole and the proles love Donald Trump: even proles in foreign countries. This foundation of support for Trump is something that liberals still don’t get.

Let’s wait and see what the intelligence agencies say about this after Trump is in charge of them.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

December 10, 2016 at 11:48 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. Paul Ryan’s twitter banner pic is a f**ckin good laugh.

    I just can’t stop laughing at this man. He’s very amusing. My favourite politician.

    He has been in the closet so long hoping the people blackmailing him for it to get free child labour and open borders through congress won’t get tired.

    1 man comedy sketch this man.

    The Philosopher

    December 10, 2016 at 11:57 am

    • It’s easy enough for me to believe that non-governmental hackers supported Trump because hackers are prole and the proles love Donald Trump: even proles in foreign countries. This foundation of support for Trump is something that liberals still don’t get.

      To add to your Star Wars nerd interest how about – Star Wars: Revenge of the Proles!

      The Empire (media, globalists etc) are attacked by a disorganized roving band of global trolls!

      Rifleman

      December 10, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    • “Paul Ryan’s twitter banner pic is a f**ckin good laugh.”

      I’ve seen it. I know what you’re talking about. On the night of Nov. 8th, I happened to check it out. I thought about Marie Antoinette.

      gothamette

      December 10, 2016 at 8:19 pm

  2. What’s wrong with nationalists helping nationalists in other countries? Obama’s admin sent teams of consultants to the UK and Israel to help the left during elections. It’s a global ideological conflict now.

    Jason Liu

    December 10, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    • “What’s wrong with nationalists helping nationalists in other countries? Obama’s admin sent teams of consultants to the UK and Israel to help the left during elections. It’s a global ideological conflict now.”

      That’s an interesting observation and I think you might be right. Obviously one of the big issues on the radar screen in every developed country is third-world immigration/terrorism/etc. So it’s easy to see that this could polarize each Western country along the same lines. From reading online, it seemed clear that Marine Le Pen’s supporters in France were very much rooting for Trump in large part because they thought it would lend support to their own movement.

      sabril

      December 10, 2016 at 4:24 pm

      • The immigration thing is one of the few things that could bring nationalists together. Generally nationalists don’t get along that well because country A has some old grudge with country B. (How well do you think German nationalists and Polish nationalists would get along without the Muslim invasion? How about Polish and Russian?) Liberal internationalists want all countries to get along and sing Kumbaya, so they have more in common.

        SFG

        December 11, 2016 at 8:12 am

      • What’s wrong with nationalists helping nationalists in other countries?

        The problem is that it doesn’t really help Western nationalists much at all.

        However well or poorly Putin governs Russia primarily impacts Russian citizens, not American nationalism. Other anti-American dictators the altright are cheering on like Duterte in the Philippines are just baffling; what the hell does the Philippines have to do with Western politics?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2016 at 10:55 am

      • Duterte doesn’t hate America, he hates Obama.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2016 at 11:00 am

      • Generally nationalists don’t get along that well because country A has some old grudge with country B. (How well do you think German nationalists and Polish nationalists would get along without the Muslim invasion? How about Polish and Russian?)

        The Poles and other Central Europeans are very worried Trump will turn out to be too pro-Russian. For good reasons.

        Unfortunately you’ll be hard pressed to find any altright website that can put the historical tensions between Central Europe and Russian Nationalism/Imperialism in the right context without mentioning the ((())). That is when they do find out Central European nationalists and Russian nationalists don’t get along which they so far haven’t.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2016 at 10:58 am

      • Btw, I agree with Trump that it’s in our strategic interest to have a decent working relationship with Russia. The problem for the altright (which people are for some strange reason looking to for insight) is that Russia is a foreign policy matter that doesn’t improve our domestic policies.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2016 at 11:01 am

      • Duterte doesn’t hate America, he hates Obama.

        He’s still getting close to China even though Trump is President-elect. He is giving off an anti-Yankii image and isn’t Western, so is the altright cheering him? And even if he were only getting jabs in at Obama I don’t see why he’s lauded since he’s a the leader of non-Western 3rd World country.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        December 11, 2016 at 11:05 am

  3. I don’t think it matters who hacked the emails. Regardless of who hacked them it shows that the Democrats are corrupt. Blaming Russia is merely a ploy to deflect from the corruption and delegitmize Trump. They also want to make it difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia. Globalists don’t want peace with Russia because fear of Russia is part of what holds the EU together. Not that Russia isn’t a threat. But globalists are more concerned with growing the EU.

    destructure

    December 10, 2016 at 2:50 pm

  4. ” because hackers are prole and the proles love Donald Trump: even proles in foreign countries. ”

    Lion,

    Enough with this word “prole.” You need to broaden your vocab a bit. I think what you mean is “regular guy.”

    Ever since Otis used the phrase “losing their shit” I can’t get it out of my mind. Kurt Eichenwald, mangina extraordinaire, so twatted out he works for both Newsweak and Vanity Fair, wrote this about Tillerson:

    The man is losing his shit. He predicts that Trump will be impeached – by the Republicans, and that we’ll end up with President Pence. I actually think this is possible, but I can’t believe I used the word “mangina” and the phrase “twatted out.” This world is getting to me.

    gothamette

    December 10, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    • Prole describes the Trump phenomenon better than any other word, and because it’s not in the MSM vocabulary it explains why the MSM is clueless.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 10, 2016 at 9:17 pm

      • Paul Fussell has been forgotten. It’s too bad he’s dead, I’d love to see an update of Class.

        SFG

        December 11, 2016 at 8:10 am

      • No, prole doesn’t mean the same thing as “regular guy.” And that’s what hackers are. Snowden is hardly prole.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 6:21 pm

      • Defining “prole” can be as difficult as determining who is wealthier in Manhattan?

        The upper middle class types who pay exorbitant amounts in monthly rent to live in “the greatest city in the world” or the middle or lower class types who live in a rent stabilized apartment located on the same island.

        JS

        December 11, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    • “He predicts that Trump will be impeached – by the Republicans, and that we’ll end up with President Pence”

      Interesting. I had thought the left had already moved past that stage. In the immediate aftermath of the election a lot of people were saying that Pence was the one running things. On DKos some were even calling the Presidency the “Pence administration”.

      The left is going through some serious cognitive dissonance right now: on one hand Trump is a dangerous American Hitler who will destroy democracy and on the other Trump is actually an incompetent buffoon who will just leave everything to Pence and Ryan while he himself goes golfing.

      This is similar, although more severe, than what a lot of people on the right had regarding Obama. On one hand he was some dull, affirmative action incompetent, but on the other hand he kept outmaneuvering the Republicans advancing his evil plot to destroy America (in actuality, the latter idea was 100% true but the former was total nonsense).

      This whole idea of impeaching Trump is just another version of the way the left was talking about how, after Trump lost, the GOP would “kick the Trump supporters out” of the party. That was never going to happen and neither is Trump going to be impeached. He has 50% approval, only 6% below what Obama is currently at, and over 80% approval amongst Republican voters. He has passionate, blanket support from the military and the armed forces. He has the support of right wing talk radio and all other forms of Republican alternate media. Trumps supporters are extremely well armed and utterly dominate the geography of the United States. Impeaching Trump would cause a civil war. It just isn’t going to happen.

      Otis the Sweaty

      December 11, 2016 at 3:06 am

      • I’m not sure it’s “the Left” that is still saying this, but it is Kurt Eichenwald, who is a signal spokesman of what you might call Leftism, Inc. He’s a passionate Hillary supporter and was (or is) prominent on the anti-Sanders wing. He wrote a long, convincing article about how Sanders would have lost to Trump. He said the Republican oppo research on Sanders was inches thick.

        Anyway, I agree that Trump won’t be impeached, unless he does something totally nuts.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 3:58 pm

      • Do you remember the demonstrations that followed the election? Not My President? How they were going to prevent him from taking office?

        Seems like a long time ago, doesn’t it?

        Even so, Politico etc., are running articles about Trump’s massive conflicts of interest. They won’t stop. And culturally Trump is persona non grata.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 6:23 pm

      • Eichenwald is now tweeting that electors should not vote to inaugurate Trump because of the Russian hacking. He is saying Trump is a traitor. He is calling on the EC to install Ryan as president.

        gothamette

        December 11, 2016 at 8:20 pm

      • > On one hand he was some dull, affirmative action incompetent, but on the other hand he kept outmaneuvering the Republicans advancing his evil plot to destroy America (in actuality, the latter idea was 100% true but the former was total nonsense).

        You might even say we ought to dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

        snorlax

        December 11, 2016 at 11:29 pm

      • Rubio was right, five times. Obama is an evil genius. We should still be scared about what he’s going to do.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 11, 2016 at 11:41 pm

      • Agreed.

        snorlax

        December 11, 2016 at 11:53 pm

  5. Saying that the released emails are the result of hacking gives Podesta et al to much credit.

    ‘Oh! Pity us! We were hacked, there was nothing we could do!’

    No. You actively caused your demise by providing your email credentials by falling for a phishing scam. No doubt John Podesta is still waiting for the good Nigerian prince to send him the money.

    beancrusher

    December 11, 2016 at 10:45 am

  6. “U.S. intelligence agencies are known to provide fake intelligence when asked for by the president. When Bush wanted to gin up support for war against Iraq, intelligence agencies provided “proof” that Saddam was hiding nuclear weapons…”

    That’s just not true. There is no order-from-the-menu intelligence to suit whatever the political problem of the day is. There was a lot of outdated intelligence associated with Iraq and lots of analysis that was just plain wrong, but the intelligence agencies don’t provide purposeful fake intelligence. The bigger problem is the politicians cherry picking intelligence for their own political purposes. When Cheney warned of a nuclear attack from Iraq, he wasn’t getting that from any intelligence; he was jumping from Iraq wanting to restart a nuclear program when the sanctions are lifted to Iraq is close to having an actual nuclear weapon. Something that wasn’t even close to being true.

    I suspect the intelligence around Russian hacking is similar. Reince Priebus was in a shouting match with Chuck Todd this morning over Todd insisting that the RNC had been hacked, and Priebus insisting that was totally false. As the RNC chair, he’s in a position to know and said the FBI cleared them. But Todd, going off MSM newspaper stories based on anonymous sources that allegedly say that the CIA concluded that Russia hacked the RNC and just didn’t release it to help Trump win. I bet the actual classified CIA reports say nothing of the sort, but in the meantime the current administration and the entire MSM likes that version a lot better.

    Mike Street Station

    December 11, 2016 at 12:31 pm

  7. Isn’t Barry the Golfcart the one who told Putin’s Number One Guy Medvedev that he would have more “flexibility” after he was re-elected? If we have a leak to Putin, it might be Barry. He was with the Soviets during the Cold War, and he might still be on Moscow’s list of Sleeper agents.

    Joshua Sinistar

    December 11, 2016 at 5:01 pm

  8. The extreme DEMS hate Russia because it’s heavily influenced by the libertarians. Same with China. They have a long way to go, but they don’t like the direction.

    Robert

    December 12, 2016 at 10:30 am


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