Lion of the Blogosphere

The big liberal beard

This comment by “Horace Pinker” deserves its own post:

The big liberal beard is something I started noticing about a decade ago. I think a lot of men who get into social justice realize that most of the world looks at them like faggots, but they think of themselves as righteous warriors who are fighting oppression and doing the work that other men aren’t brave and woke enough to do . . . and they overcompensate with traditionally masculine beards.

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December 22, 2016 at 5:40 pm

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  1. I agree with Rogal Dorn, though. Let me know when SJWS begin sporting huge, ZZ-Top/Duck Dynasty/Viking beards. They won’t.

    Samson J.

    December 22, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    • Maybe they can’t. I know SJWs who have beards like Pax Dickinson’s:

      Horace Pinker

      December 22, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    • Pronounced Zed Zed Top in other English speaking parts of the world?


      December 22, 2016 at 8:35 pm

      • Haha, yes, as a matter of fact my friend and I used to jokingly call them this (Canada).

        Samson J.

        December 22, 2016 at 9:41 pm

  2. I don’t think this is really true. If they were overcompensating, they’d be going to the gym a lot and weightlifting, and they’d also change their clothes. Also, a lot of these liberals and hipsters with beards are not “into social justice” or that political. They’re interested in hipster things and different subcultures that don’t involve politics.


    December 22, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    • Growing a beard is a lot easier than going the gym a lot. Also, there are a lot of muscular gay men.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      December 22, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    • I’m a conservative with a not-manly social role. I don’t remove my beard, and I lift weights. I don’t think “compensating” is the right way to look at it. Men should be strong. It’s more fair to say that having problems and living in dark days doesn’t mean I should renounce all masculinity and be a weak, shaven thing who meekly plays along with the notions of feminists and homos about what men should be like. I want to be strong and I don’t want to try to look like Hollywood actors who are groomed to represent fantasies for 45-year-old childless women. My great-great grandfather was a top-rank general for the South in the Civil War. He didn’t remove his beard.

      Rogal Dorn

      December 22, 2016 at 10:48 pm

      • Your great-great grandfather didn’t have to lift weights to be manly (a form of exercise that was nonexistent in the 1800s).

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 22, 2016 at 10:52 pm

      • And weightlifting was not mainstream for around 100 years later. It was mostly a gay subculture until then.

        Jay Fink

        December 22, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      • Also most people did not have running water in the 1800s and could not afford to go to barbers regularly. The safety razor wasn’t even invented. It was harder and less practical to shave regularly back then.


        December 23, 2016 at 12:27 am

      • I understand that, guys, but lifting weights is the way that I can be strong. It’s the right thing to do.

        Rogal Dorn

        December 23, 2016 at 1:08 am

      • You are correct about your g-g grandfather. Men who have done dangerous things have no need to adopt a pose. Their courage/manliness becomes a part of their being. Shakespeare understood this. It is the very heart of Henry Vs great St Crispins day speech.


        December 23, 2016 at 5:54 pm

      • Earl van Dorn may have been a little too manly.

        It was Van Dorn’s reputation as a womanizer, not a Union bullet, that led to his death. In May 1863 he was shot in his headquarters at Spring Hill in Maury County, Tennessee, by Dr. James Bodie Peters, who claimed that Van Dorn had carried on an affair with his wife Jessie McKissack Peters. Alone in his office at the home of Martin Cheairs (now known as Ferguson Hall) Van Dorn was writing at his desk, and Peters entered and shot him once in the back of the head, killing him instantly. Peters was later arrested by Confederate authorities, but was never brought to trial for the killing. In defense of his actions, Dr. Peters stated that Van Dorn had “violated the sanctity of his home.”


        December 23, 2016 at 11:19 pm

  3. Lumberjack beard = masculine
    Brooklyn beard = homo

    Rural hunter with a beard = masculine
    coffee shop laptop cismale = homo

    metal band beard = masculine
    indie band beard = homo

    conservative male with a beard = cucks think you’re a homo
    liberal male with a beard = leaning homo

    hipster overkill

    December 22, 2016 at 6:00 pm

    • What is Spencer doing with those fag hipster haircuts?

      Is he emphasizing his role as the bottom in the Spencer-Donavan submissive-dominant “relationship”?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 22, 2016 at 8:16 pm

  4. Some hipsters also like to wear old-timey clothes and hats that make them seem a little more masculine.


    December 22, 2016 at 6:07 pm

  5. What stands out about hipster beards is that they’re genuinely ugly. They’re way too long and are groomed in weird, icky ways.

    Compare that with, say, Will Riker from Star Trek, where he features a full beard that is well groomed and looks handsome. A lot of men can pull off having a beard, but hipsters don’t, because they stylize them in atrocious ways.

    So I would say hipsters grow beard to look more like men, but they way their groom and style their beards ultimately defeats the effort. It’s in line with their “ironic” outlook on life: Yes, I’m trying to look like a man, but I’ll ruin the attempt by making my beard look bizarre!


    December 22, 2016 at 6:43 pm

  6. This is a somewhat related article. The liberals and hipsters with beards may actually be less gay than conservatives and rural types:

    Last year, NYU Press published the fascinating book Not Gay: Sex Between Straight White Men by the University of California, Riverside, gender and sexuality professor Jane Ward. In it, Ward explored various subcultures in which what could be called “straight homosexual sex” abounds — not just in the ones you’d expect, like the military and fraternities, but also biker gangs and conservative suburban neighborhoods — to better understand how the participants in these encounters experienced and explained their attractions, identities, and rendezvous. But not all straight MSM have gotten the same level of research attention. One relatively neglected such group, argues the University of Oregon sociology doctoral student Tony Silva in a new paper in Gender & Society, is rural, white, straight men (well, neglected if you set aside Brokeback Mountain).


    December 22, 2016 at 6:44 pm

    • Well, if it’s in New York magazine then it must be true.

      Robert the Wise

      December 23, 2016 at 7:28 am

  7. Right wing, pro Trump Canadian hipster founder of old VICE website Gavin McInnes has the beardo/glasses hipster look.

    But so does his left wing SJW fag brother Miles McInnes.


    December 22, 2016 at 6:55 pm

  8. Well they literally wear lumberjack shirts with the look. Horace is right. If youre an SJW bang to bottom, you’re low t. And so the beard is a way to compensate.

    The irony is that if you hit the gym, the test will make you think like a conservative.

    Try it. Nick ‘Black Swan’ Taleb swears by it too.

    The Philosopher

    December 22, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    • Cool theory. Sounds right. Never heard that before.


      December 23, 2016 at 7:42 pm

  9. What about shaving the head, is this masculine? I have a beard, shave my head and go to gym so what message does it send to the outside world? I wonder….. Mates?


    December 22, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    • Your manly reputation is secured by your career in HVAC. The more masculine one’s real world achievements , the less important (to an extent…) one’s appearance.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      December 22, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    • I thought Orthodox Jews would be immune from the silly fads of atomized postmodern urban living?

      Tradition instead of fads. Security in identity & community instead of urban anomie & status competition…

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      December 22, 2016 at 10:04 pm

      • They seem to be immune, but they are not. Nobody is immune against the insidious influence of the host culture. Hassidic Jews shave their heads when they they take a haircut and leave sidelocks, I just do it more often and don’t leave sidelocks, so in terms of my culture it’s not too far out. I’m an unorthodox Orthodox Jew anyway, a black sheep marching to his own drummer, doing his thing.

        They have their own fads too. For example, when my eldest daughter got married there was a fad to have an aquarium and to talk about your fish. I’m not sure if it was a girl thing or men were also into it. So she and all her friends had aquariums and would excitingly talk about the fish. You see, in a small Israeli town all these young Orthodox learning families were into it. So a family struggling on a budget with both spouses learning would spend money on a fancy little fish. That was very funny.


        December 23, 2016 at 7:24 am

      • “unorthodox Orthodox Jew”

        NOT an oxymoron.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        December 23, 2016 at 9:43 am

      • Lion, humor used to be your strong point. On a serious not, I’ve been trying to disabuse you if a notion that out religion is a fit all straight jacket. I still have my work cut out for me.


        December 23, 2016 at 3:55 pm

  10. the rule is…

    1. no facial hair OR

    2. the full osama.

    this is the rule of the british navy.

    moustaches, goatees, trimmed beards, sideburns, etc. = nambla member.

    Vancouver! Vancouver! This is it!

    December 22, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    • I am a government contractor in a military conflict zone in Eastern Europe (no prizes for guesses where!!!). Almost all of our medics are ex-military and 90 pct of them have beards (they are younger guys). Someone asked about this once, and a medic said that a lot of contractors started doing this in Iraq and Afghanistan so that when they went home and shaved it would be relatively more difficult to recognize them.

      Maybe this is true, or maybe it is just a way to rationalise a fashion statement.

      Many of the older staff are also ex-military, and almost none of them have beards. In fact, I can’t think of any off the top of my head.

      The Shepherd

      December 23, 2016 at 4:44 am

    • So, anyone with a mustache is a Nambla member? You should write for the New York Times.

      Robert the Wise

      December 23, 2016 at 7:32 am

  11. Looks like an outsoorsy lumberjack with the $70 Pendleton flannel shirt , $100 retro knapsack, $80 designer skinny jeans, $350 Red Wing boots, but can’t chop wood for shît and lives a vacuous life that looks exciting on Instagram, Twitter, and FB.


    December 22, 2016 at 8:04 pm

  12. Bobo

    December 22, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    • This guy is one beard away from becoming an icon of millennial masculinity.

      Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

      December 22, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      • The left has been waging an unrelenting war on masculinity since the 1960s. Prior to the counterculture, just about everyone believed in traditional gender roles. As Archie Bunker put it: “Girls were girls and men were men.”

        Lewis Medlock

        December 27, 2016 at 10:29 am

  13. Honestly if you want to be masculine…pick a real life physical fight.

    The next best thing is hit the gym and lift weight, get a masculine job involving physical exertion/danger or bang loadsa hunnies.

    Nobody got man chops spending too much time on comment threads of bloggers in between contracts. No – one. Nadda. Commenting on an obscure blogger’s thread is the pits. The adult male equivalent of being a World of Warcraft player or a NAMBLA member as our friend above says.

    The Philosopher

    December 22, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    • Going to gyms and weightlifting doesn’t really work because of how gay they’ve become. As Lion notes above, there are lots of muscular gay men these days. Gyms are artificial environments and there are tons of gays in gyms and weightlifting. Gays have ruined weightlifting for straight men.

      The most masculine appearance you can have these days is the emaciated and lean but strong wild mountain man/serial killer look. This is very difficult to achieve without actually subjecting yourself to long stretches of intense hunger while maintaining and building up strength in between strenuous hunts in which you physically dispatch your man or animal victims.


      December 22, 2016 at 10:32 pm

      • The most masculine appearance you can have these days

        You guys who live in cities and actually care about all this stuff are so weird. Just be more like a prole and be yourself!

        Samson J.

        December 23, 2016 at 8:28 am

      • Going to gyms and weightlifting doesn’t really work because of how gay they’ve become. As Lion notes above, there are lots of muscular gay men these days. Gyms are artificial environments and there are tons of gays in gyms and weightlifting. Gays have ruined weightlifting for straight men.

        It’s not homo when I do it, so there.

        And the first time a strange woman comes up and starts feeling your biceps, you’ll quit worrying about this asinine “weightlifting is gay” idea.


        December 23, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    • …”pick a real life physical fight.”

      Well, I am being prosecuted for battery. I took my 93-year old Mom, who has Alz, to dinner at her favorite restaurant in a famously blue county. As I drove into the handicap space, the valet came sprinting out of the restaurant and slammed the top of my car. His policy is that the handicap spot is “valet only.” I chucked him under the chin with open hands, sort of like a football block. The cops were called, and I was handcuffed inside the restaurant. I’m clean-shaven and he’s a young, bigger guy with a scraggly beard. I wonder who the jury will prefer.

      In The Maw

      December 23, 2016 at 12:36 am

      • They may prefer you, but unless you go for jury nullification and get it, they’ll convict you. This will never go to trial though.


        December 23, 2016 at 9:19 am

      • In your own version you come off really trashy, so….

        The trash is flipping out about your car, assuming people will defend your violence, and acting in a completely selfish way but assuming that people think you’re a good person because your intentions were to take your mom out to dinner. Poor trashy people are always trying to do reasonable worthwhile things that they completely fuck up for themselves by being poor and trashy.


        December 23, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      • Did you have a handicap tag or plate for the car?


        December 23, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    • “Honestly if you want to be masculine…pick a real life physical fight.”

      Because nothing shows your masculinity like committing assault and battery.

      Robert the Wise

      December 23, 2016 at 7:34 am

    • Want to project masculinity? Win at something. Winning is inherently masculine. So is putting yourself in harms way. Soldiers of fortune are masculine.


      December 23, 2016 at 5:42 pm

  14. Gavin McGuinness is a cuck-nomics ‘Trucon’ type Otis always is on about.

    Fwee twade makes fwee human beings herr derr huhhh.

    The Philosopher

    December 22, 2016 at 9:01 pm

  15. Beards look terrible on 99/100 men — almost always, they make you look fat and old.

    Excessive hirsutism is only superficially masculine. Heavy beard growth and abundant body hair has more to do with high dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and estradiol than high testosterone, although obviously some baseline test level is needed. DHT is highly androgenic, but only weakly anabolic.

    Athletic, high testosterone men tend to have relatively hairless bodies (of course, this varies by race and ethnicity).

    In the loch

    December 22, 2016 at 10:22 pm

  16. i thought the liberal beard was a holdover thing from the 60’s when grooming yourself was considered square. they were trying to reject the cleancut military / corporate look. i have a beard, but its to hide my weak / double chin


    December 23, 2016 at 12:38 am

  17. NYT’s columnist Paul Krugman has a very liberal beard.

    E. Rekshun

    December 23, 2016 at 2:29 am

  18. In my gym we have, Chinese, whites, Muslims, me, a lesbian couple, a transsexual and I don’t know about gay. We all come there to work out and have fun and have a beautiful friendly atmosphere. I think nobody spoils anything for anybody. Gym is like our safe space, so I don’t know what you guys are talking about. Also, who has time to worry about beards and hair styles? We just do our thing and everybody is fine. Some are bold and some are fuzzy and this is the diversity that I can live with.

    Incidently, the transsexual comes to gym wearing workout clothes and doesn’t use the changing room. This is a pretty good solution, I think. What does he do about the bathroom though? I dunno, maybe he goes on the roof or to a gas station across the street? Never saw him in man’s bathroom, but who knows?


    December 25, 2016 at 1:11 am

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