Lion of the Blogosphere

Crowd size at Trump’s Inauguration

Most people who attend the inauguration live in the area, and the area is very blue. The people who attended Obama’s inauguration stayed home this time because they hate Trump.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

January 23, 2017 at 11:27 am

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  1. also, the weather matter. on top of that the dems are doing a campaign of intimidation against Trump voters. it’s not that if you vote with Trump you’re voicing your optinion. they say more like, if you vote with Trump, you must be a racist

    Zack

    January 23, 2017 at 11:40 am

    • There was physical intimidation as well. People knew there were going to be hundreds of thousands of potentially violent protesters rioting and disrupting the inauguration. So that suppressed turnout as well. But I still think the MSM lied about the turnout. They were showing photos of a half empty mall. However, the photos they were showing weren’t taken at the time Trump was there. They were taken earlier before everyone had arrived. So the MSM is still p to it’s sneaky tricks.

      Nielsen ratings show that Trump’s inauguration was the second highest since Reagan’ 1981 inauguration. Higher than Obama’s 2013 but lower than Obama’s 2009. But probably the highest in history when you count live stream which has increased dramatically over the last few years as people have ditched their televisions and cable for streaming. I personally watched it over youtube.

      destructure

      January 23, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      • This is an important point.

        I’ve been thinking about the “Women’s March” – the big Pussy Riot. I really think it was the end, and not the beginning of anything.

        What’s to become of the Democratic party? It’s hopelessly split between the old Hillary guard, and the new guard, for lack of a better word, the Bernie contingent. And what did Bernie say about TPP?

        Read.it.

        gothamette

        January 24, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      • Trump to sign EO about the wall tomorrow. This is surreal. The first 100 days will knock the Left’s sox off.

        gothamette

        January 24, 2017 at 11:47 pm

      • “Trump to sign EO about the wall tomorrow. This is surreal. The first 100 days will knock the Left’s sox off.”

        I’m a little disappointed. Me and the rest of Trump’s most ardent Internet supporters are still hoping he will make anime real.

        Dan

        January 25, 2017 at 9:19 am

  2. Yes, exactly. Why can’t Trump say this? Why does he instead send Sean Spicer out with pictures of the crowd to announce Trump’s “alternate facts”?

    Spicer’s performance and the CIA speech have the Trump administration off to a very shaky start.

    Mike CA

    January 23, 2017 at 11:43 am

    • 1. Because he’s a petty jackass
      2. Because he lives off these feuds with the media
      3. To take attention away from the Dems very successful “Women’s March”

      Not off to a shaky start. Already officially killed TPP, his cabinet picks look to all get through with 100% of the GOP votes and we should expect some anti immigration EO’s before the week ends.

      Otis the Sweaty

      January 23, 2017 at 12:52 pm

      • I agree with this, especially #1.

        What matters are policies and results. Trump wasn’t elected to put on events and redo the Apprentice from the White House.

        We want results on immigration, trade, war, russophobia, antileft pc garbage…etc

        Rifleman

        January 23, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      • The media lies about him constantly. It’s good that he always fights. A better angle would have been if he played up the riot angle for suppressing turnout.

        Dave

        January 23, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      • I hate it, but fighting w/the media over shit like this is part of his method. It makes me cringe. My ideal president is Silent Cal Coolidge.

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      • The media lies about him constantly. It’s good that he always fights. A better angle would have been if he played up the riot angle for suppressing turnout.

        But that also has the optics of making it look like only the other side believes strongly in their views. That they’re willing to fight and we can’t even be bothered to turn out in support.

        No, better to fight the media by saying they’re liars, throw out some numbers, never give an inch. Remember that if the issue ends in a cloudy stalemate that is a victory for our side since the media is used to winning decisively every time out.

        Andrew E.

        January 23, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      • I hate it, but fighting w/the media over shit like this is part of his method. It makes me cringe.

        You’re already panicking?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 24, 2017 at 6:06 pm

      • “You’re already panicking?”

        No. Are you?

        gothamette

        January 24, 2017 at 8:20 pm

      • No.

        Good. I would have hoped you had taken an example from the Lion and learned how to be a fearless Lioness by now instead of an indecisive house cat.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 24, 2017 at 11:23 pm

      • “Good. I would have hoped you had taken an example from the Lion and learned how to be a fearless Lioness by now instead of an indecisive house cat.”

        That gave me a chuckle, have to admit.

        You didn’t answer MY question. It’s clear you know very few housecats. They are all merciless predators, inside. Just give them the opportunity.

        I don’t fear the left but they have the capacity to be very nasty, and I sense that a dam has broken and that we’ll see a fair amount of mischief from them in the next few years. And the MSM will either not cover it, or distort it.

        gothamette

        January 25, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      • I don’t fear the left but they have the capacity to be very nasty, and I sense that a dam has broken and that we’ll see a fair amount of mischief from them in the next few years. And the MSM will either not cover it, or distort it.

        Trump is armed with the superior distortion field:

        https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/the-trump-reality-distortion-field-will-be-stronger-with-trump-as-president-than-canditate/

        A seemingly vanity presidential campaign could – in the absence of evidence in the way of voter experience – plausibly have insignificant issues prove this candidate is unqualified:

        Trump misspells words on Twitter.
        If Trump cannot spell, Trump is unfit for the Presidency! (Have the anti-Trump DDoS attack run a loop of this trillions of times, as it did, and you can see how this might have been an attractive strategy.)

        With the Presidency at last in his hands, Trump can throw off the entire media in ways he could not as candidate because he can determine what they talk about with announcements and policy offensives they must cover. He may also outmaneuver them with minor controversies that seem important to the press, but are not to voters, and send them off in wild goose chases.

        See how the Twitter script we outline above adjusts with the power of the bully pulpit combined with the field:

        President Trump misspells Nigeria on Twitter
        If Trump cannot spell Nigeria, President Trump is not fit for the Presidency! (This loop is less effective if Trump is successful on major issues, more successful if he is otherwise.)
        Trump, aware that the media is busy with its chew toy, preemptively nukes North Korea and reforms Medicare without the media ever noticing.

        If the distortion field was deadly in the campaign it will prove even more formidable in the White House.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 25, 2017 at 5:08 pm

      • His investigation into vote fraud today: Presumably a way to throw the media off the trail of alleged Russian hacking of Podesta’s emails?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 25, 2017 at 5:11 pm

      • “His investigation into vote fraud today: Presumably a way to throw the media off the trail of alleged Russian hacking of Podesta’s emails?”

        It HAS dropped out of the news lately.

        Mike Street Station

        January 26, 2017 at 9:29 am

    • The media is only interested in delegitimizing Trump’s presidency and nothing more. Therefore, Trump is in return only interested in crushing the cultural authority of the MSM.

      That’s all that’s happening here and that’s all the will happen for the next eight years. The media will say A and Trump will say not-A. Trump will say A and the media will say not-A. On all issues big and small. It is a battle for the hearts and minds of American voters.

      Andrew E.

      January 23, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    • I agree that the fuss over the crowd size is pretty useless, but I’m less certain about the CIA visit. I have a feeling Trump was deliberately contemptuous, spending most of the time talking about himself, as a way of telling the cucks, fools, traitors and vermin that make up the CIA, “Hey, I’m in charge now and I don’t care a lick about you people. You mean nothing to me. You do what I say. Capiche?”

      peterike

      January 23, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      • I didn’t get that impression at all. I thought he was trying to make nice with the CIA, or at least the rank and file. The upper position of course are fiercely anti-Trump.

        Mike Street Station

        January 24, 2017 at 6:27 am

  3. This is the EXACT same talking point that the Peronists used in 2015 after they lost in Argentina. The Left can always find plenty of idle urban dwellers and comfortable paper pushers to herd around for a few hours on a weekday.

    Fiddlesticks

    January 23, 2017 at 11:45 am

    • “The Left can always find plenty of idle urban dwellers and comfortable paper pushers to herd around for a few hours on a weekday.”

      Precisely. In addition to welfare layabouts, how many of the people at Obama’s inauguration and those women’s marches were:

      1. K-12 teachers
      2. University professors
      3. Government employees
      4. Government funded workers (NGOs, etc.)
      5. College students

      Mind you, ALL of these organizations would look the other way when people want to skip work or class to go “protest.” And a Fortune 500 type company would also look the other way if you wanted to go to a woman’s march (couldn’t possibly “discriminate” against that), but it would dock you a day to see Trump’s inauguration.

      As for the women’s marches, apparently these were planned long before as “victory” celebrations for Hillary, but yeah that didn’t happen. So they morphed into anti-Trump marches. Nobody seems to mention this. They like the myth of “spontaneous protest” — with professionally printed signs!

      peterike

      January 23, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    • “This is the EXACT same talking point that the Peronists used in Argentina”

      Really quite remarkable.

      Two in the Bush

      January 23, 2017 at 9:56 pm

  4. D.C. is 50% black. Obama was the first black president.

    McFly

    January 23, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    • And 90% voted democrats in D.C, the highest rate of all states.

      Hashed

      January 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm

  5. OT, but explain this: I can get on LOTB, VoxDay and VDare, but not Unz/Sailer at a McD’s in Marin County.

    mel belli

    January 23, 2017 at 12:24 pm

  6. I was there. Turnout seemed pretty big. There are some reasons it may not have been bigger:

    (1) As you say, the DC area is very anti-Trump. He got just 4% in DC, which is an unbelievably low number. The poor folks in flyover country needed to get airline tickets and then spend $500 a night at a price-gouging hotel. Still hundreds of thousands did exactly that. I met people from almost every state with a ***majority*** having come in from faraway places.

    (2) The weather forecast called for rain on Friday.

    (3) Threats of protests and footage of rioters probably kept families away. Nobody threatened Obama because threatening ordinary people with violence for no reason other than political beliefs is a Democrat thing.

    (4) Challenge of getting tickets. You needed a ticket for most areas and many people were left out. The ticketing was part of the security process which needed to be very high because of the violence of Democrats.

    (5) Protests were locking arms to try to block Trump people from entering security area where I went in. This of course is not legal and the people who did that should have gotten arrested, faced felony convictions, lost their jobs, and then their houses to foreclosure. Instead they faced no consequences as people stoically looked for a way around them.

    Dan

    January 23, 2017 at 12:39 pm

  7. My local congressional delegation in Maryland all denied me tickets and I had to rely on friends from out of state for tickets.

    Dan

    January 23, 2017 at 12:42 pm

  8. The shy Trump voter phenomenon continues after the election.

    Also, we’re afraid of being physically assaulted. They aren’t.

    gothamette

    January 23, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    • Exactly! In this video an anti-Trump supporter sets a Trump supporter’s hair on fire while chanting “Love Trumps Hate”.

      Rosenmop

      January 23, 2017 at 1:50 pm

      • It will get worse. And the media will suppress the truth.

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 4:35 pm

      • @Rosenmop,

        It doesn’t bother me *that* much that the media are such petty shits on the crowd size thing. Because Trump can match them measure for measure.

        What bothers me, and it shouldn’t, is Madonna, and Ashley Judd, and Charlize Theron, and Amy Schumer, and that whole coven of witches shitting all over the rest of us. And Katy Perry, can’t forget her.

        If you or I had said we thought of blowing up the White House, we’d have been dragged off in handcuffs. Madonna gets away with it. She’ll be doing the half time show at the Super Bowl soon enough. Ashley Judd is an over the hill slag, but she won’t suffer for reciting that obscene poem.

        They will not suffer the slightest reduction in wealth and adoration for their obscene behavior.

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 5:02 pm

      • What bothers me, and it shouldn’t, is Madonna, and Ashley Judd, and Charlize Theron, and Amy Schumer, and that whole coven of witches shitting all over the rest of us. And Katy Perry, can’t forget her.

        And yet…there’s always more “Moles” to be deployed!!!

        You have to beat them with modern psyche war.

        Remember “Love Trumps Hate”? Hospital Hillary sign? Or how about the brilliant “Make America Sick Again” by Pelosi and crew? LOL.

        Rifleman

        January 23, 2017 at 7:07 pm

      • Clever. The pussy hat completes the look.

        The left is completely bonkers. The gloves are off. Every actress is shrieking on her twitter account, instagram, you name it.

        Right now twitter is erupting with #istandwithlinda, who is a hijab clad Palestinian.

        The US Jewish community doesn’t know what it’s about to get hit with. The next four years are going to be wrenching.

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 9:29 pm

      • “Madonna, and Ashley Judd, and Charlize Theron, and Amy Schumer, and that whole coven of witches shitting all over the rest of us. And Katy Perry, can’t forget her.”

        Do women really listen to these folks? You know that old complaint about men that they don’t hear women? It is often true. If they are young and good looking you are paying attention to their looks. If they are old, haggard or unpleasant you don’t look up from your magazine. Either way, unless they are surprisingly sensible, like Ann Coulter or Bette Davis, most men are either distracted by their sex appeal or tune them out completely. The feminists weren’t 100% wrong.

        Curle

        January 24, 2017 at 5:57 am

      • Gothamette: Trump’s ascendancy to presidency is the ultimatum of America. It’s great time to be a person, if one is willing to think outside of the box.

        I’m already taking advantage of the cheaper Canadian dollar, and exploiting the 2 countries’ tax system, within legal limits.

        JS

        January 24, 2017 at 10:39 am

    • They turn out with the intention of attacking people. We don’t.

      destructure

      January 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm

      • Yep. It didn’t stop the rallies during the campaign, but I’m sure it stopped turnout for the Inauguration. Also the women’s march was very well organized. I was getting solicitations from various orgs. a month beforehand for bus transportation to DC. I could have gone as a spy, for free, but I didn’t.

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 4:37 pm

      • “They turn out with the intention of attacking people. We don’t.”

        If Trump were a true authoritarian, he would not respond to these “demonstrations'” via twitter. At some point down the road, the right may have to rethink its passivity.

        Lewis Medlock

        January 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

  9. Subhuman TruCon announces he is leaving the Republican Party: http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2017/01/23/begins-apologists-cheering-trumps-lies/

    Haven’t the TruCons announced their departure from the GOP like 10 billion times now? When are they actually going to leave?

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 23, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    • I was banned from RedState during the primary. It only took them 1 hour to do it. They’re as bad as the leftists. They won’t tolerate any opinion that isn’t theirs.

      destructure

      January 23, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      • And why would any of you who think outside of non-mainstream followers, associate with either side of the American ideology-spectrum?

        You have liberals who want to turn America into a cesspool which affords them a safe space of privilege and the various right leaning groups who want to retrograde themselves into 20th century Neanderthals.

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 5:19 pm

  10. Fake news. No one has made a big deal about the crowds at these things before. I remember that one of them was held inside the Capitol because of the weather.

    I saw the coverage on MSNBC, which is not exactly a Trump friendly record, and the talking heads said that the crowds were down from the first Obama inauguration, but they pointed out that that one set some sort of a record and the turnout was still respectable.

    This is a “controversy” that the Trump people really should be ignoring.

    Ed

    January 23, 2017 at 1:24 pm

  11. Safety is also a factor. Many feared the riotous left wing mob.

    B.T.D.T.

    January 23, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    • “Safety is also a factor. Many feared the riotous left wing mob.”

      People have every right to demonstrate, but they have no right to violence. Sanity demands a law-and-order approach in US urban areas. If the police cannot keep the peace, then bring in the national guard. Trump should also let it be known that both the media and communist groups like the ACLU and the NLG handcuff the cops and embolden the criminals.

      Lewis Medlock

      January 25, 2017 at 1:10 pm

  12. Obama’s inauguration was filled up with a lot of young liberals/millennials. Trump’s America is basically another extension of the dreaded, baby boomer-status quo, that clogs the pipe.

    JS

    January 23, 2017 at 2:41 pm

  13. Sure, but even accounting for that, leftists and women are more likely to do street protests. It’s part of their overly social behavior, sort of a release valve for built up tension. That kind of method isn’t in the rightist’s blood, unless things get very bad.

    Jason Liu

    January 23, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    • “That kind of method isn’t in the rightist’s blood, unless things get very bad.”

      If the left pushes too far the right could counter with some violence. A classic example of this in the US was the Hard Hat Riot of 1970, which took place in NYC. On that day the vermin got what they deserved.

      Lewis Medlock

      January 24, 2017 at 11:41 am

  14. Disappointed that Trump is defunding International Planned Parenthood. Why does he think the world’s poor are streaming over our border?

    Dan

    January 23, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    • I agree, unnecessary to appease the Christian Right now that he’s President.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 23, 2017 at 4:02 pm

      • How could Trump possibly bring back menial manufacturing to America, when automation is the future?

        I always had this idea that Trump’s ascendancy to presidency was really about him, and not America. The guy is relatively broke and bankrupt.

        Not sure if any your readers (most of whom live in blue areas), would want an America that has the tempo and feel of Middle Whitelandia.

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 4:13 pm

      • One of Trump’s most important acts thus far. And it sets the stage for defunding Planned Parenthood domestically. I await that moment with great joy.

        If you aren’t on God’s side, God will allow your enemies to overrun you.

        Andrew E.

        January 23, 2017 at 4:18 pm

      • Yeah, I’m sure God wants 10s of millions more black and hispanic babies to be born.

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 23, 2017 at 4:59 pm

      • If you aren’t on God’s side, God will allow your enemies to overrun you.

        He already has.

        snorlaxwp

        January 23, 2017 at 5:18 pm

      • you’re insane Andrew E.

        you.must.know that this can only result in the destruction of the GOP/or any “right wing” party in the US, along with most of its civilization. You are out of your mind, your mind has been abused so much that it mirrors the mind of a man with 99°C fever. This would about offset any gains made through real-scale deportation and lack of alien-born spics.

        bombexpert

        January 23, 2017 at 5:26 pm

      • Defunding planed parenthood should be done in tandem with instituting forced sterilization. Just defunding it doesn’t make sense. Sterilization is a better way in every way.

        This country’s problem is predominance of untermenchen in its population. An untermench puts his interests ahead of the interests of the nation, tribe, family. In normal unobstructed Darwinian struggle the untermenchen get whipped out but cohesive, organized opponents willing to sacrifice for the group. All the immigrants today are fundamental untermenchen. The mass culture today is to make white race into the race of untermenchen, who think that ‘what’s good for me is good for everyone else’. A culture of untermenchen has no future. Trump is a superman type of leader, he is awesome, but without creating a patriotic movement and destroying the culture of untermenchen, his achievements won’t be lasting. Only destroying the untermenchen will make America great again!

        No amount of foreign aid will help many demographics, everything will get stollen and ruined, because they are untermenchen on a genetic level. They are incapable of sacrificing for common good, delaying gratification, or planning for the future. They can’t have a state, never had a state and never will have a state. The people should be kept out by all means available.

        But even and advanced culture as it reaches its it’s peak becomes soft. It happened to Sparta and it happened to Rome. This is what’s happening to the European nations – they lose their morality, spirituality, their very essence, and become untermenchen. I don’t know if this process has ever been reversed in history, but unless it is, long term we are doomed.

        Can you imagine African migrants molesting hundreds of German women in public squares 70 years ago and nobody knowing what to do about it? Germans have become untermenchen and are drawing others with them. There is something wrong with that nation: two World Wars, genocide of other millions, and now self-destruction and destruction of Europe? Germans are a very dangerous nation.

        Yakov

        January 23, 2017 at 6:10 pm

      • ‘I always had this idea that Trump’s ascendancy to presidency was really about him, and not America.’

        Mate, you being fundamentaly an untermench, cannot fathom that Trump is patriot.

        I think that mentsh/untermench is a more meaningful division them prole/whatever and the one that truly matters.

        Yakov

        January 23, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      • An untermench puts his interests ahead of the interests of the nation, tribe, family. In normal unobstructed Darwinian struggle the untermenchen get whipped out but cohesive, organized opponents willing to sacrifice for the group.

        Rabbi strong with the Force Yaakov would be. Yesssss.

        But even and advanced culture as it reaches its it’s peak becomes soft. It happened to Sparta and it happened to Rome. This is what’s happening to the European nations – they lose their morality, spirituality, their very essence, and become untermenchen. I don’t know if this process has ever been reversed in history, but unless it is, long term we are doomed.

        I take it you would want Europe’s Democratic Nationalist parties to ditch the Democracy?

        Modern European Nationalism is Parliamentary Nationalism not Fascism

        https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/01/20/modern-european-nationalism-is-parliamentary-nationalism/

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 23, 2017 at 7:37 pm

      • ‘I take it you would want Europe’s Democratic Nationalist parties to ditch the Democracy?’

        Not necessarily. However, the current situation is that of a foreign invasion, internal treason and gradual enslavement of the native population leading to its future extinction and genocide. Maybe suspend the democracy until the things are put in order. But they have to figure it out, I can’t do it for them.

        Yakov

        January 23, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      • Yakov — I already said America was ruined by greedy parasites. What’s your beef with me?

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 9:10 pm

      • At least 25% of America’s population is black, and another 25% considers themselves Hispanic. Then you add the SWPL parasite class, which is another 25% of the population, and this what you get in America.

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 9:13 pm

      • No, the U.S. is only 12% black.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2017 at 10:27 pm

      • There is no way the US is only 12% black. Given the large underclass in this demographic, it must have been under-reported.

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      • How is Trump a patriot? His stuff is made in China and he deals with Asian businessmen.

        JS

        January 23, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      • It’s not unpatriotic to conduct business like everyone else conducts business.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 23, 2017 at 10:27 pm

      • How am I a patriot if I employ illegals and don’t pay taxes? Because I hadn’t made the rules and am not responsible for the cost of living and the way business is done in this city and this country. However, when given a chance I vote for Trump to demolish this insane system that we have right now where the working people are carrying an increasing number of parasites sucking their blood. Being a patriot doesn’t mean playing by the rules and being a loser. It means winning the evolutionary battle by all means necessary. If you don’t survive, procreate and prosper, you’ve lost the battle to the more fit individuals.

        Yakov

        January 23, 2017 at 11:32 pm

      • I prefer the term “religious right”. Calling it the “christian right” creates a false impression of a single unified christian orthodoxy which doesn’t exist. While excluding other religions who side with them if not on specific issues then at least on their general opposition to the left’s social agenda.

        The latter is also why it’s simpleminded to think one must agree with someone’s views specifically in order to support them generally. I don’t agree with any their positions but still support them because they’re the only ones holding the radical left’s social agenda in check. Plus, it’s one of the largest voting blocks in America and the most successful in bringing out the Republican base. Trump couldn’t have won without them. Which is why it’s a mistake for anyone whose not a flaming leftist to attack the “religious right”.

        While attacking the religious right is like scoring an ‘own goal’ it doesn’t mean we should move the football down the field for them. I’m similarly disappointed that Trump is defunding International Planned Parenthood. But does anyone really think he’s doing it because he’s an honest to goodness pro-lifer? No. He simply understands the political reality that he has to do things he doesn’t really want in order to have the political capital to do the things he does.

        He’s shoring up the base. They put him in office so he has to throw them a bone. And it’s a pretty smart bone to throw too. By defunding IPP on Day 1 he’s sated the religious right and firmly established his cred at a time when all eyes are on him. Now he doesn’t have do anything else on the issue. And, since it’s international rather than domestic, it won’t hurt him with women voters. And there’s a strong case to be made that it’s not our responsibility to subsidize foreigners anyway. So this was absolutely a smart move.

        Now, I don’t want the world overrun with 80 IQ impoverished people either. But it was only $100 million. I’m sure that between Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and George Soros they’ll be able to find enough change in their sofa cushions to cover it.

        destructure

        January 24, 2017 at 5:03 pm

      • “How could Trump possibly bring back menial manufacturing to America, when automation is the future? “

        If you’re talking about the garment industry then yeah. It’s low wage, low skill sweat shop labor. Otherwise, most manufacturing isn’t so menial. Nowadays everything is automated, engineered and programmed. Employing lots of degreed professional and skilled trades. There are also unskilled workers as well. Which is fine. Unless you think they’re not allowed to work. Would you rather they be on welfare?

        destructure

        January 24, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      • It’s not unpatriotic to conduct business like everyone else conducts business.

        What productive business in Quebec is LOTB’s greatest commenter engaging in?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm

      • ‘It’s not unpatriotic to conduct business like everyone else conducts business.’

        Oh I disagree. It’s certainly can be unpatriotic or worse, it could be criminal too. But Darwin, he doesn’t care about it. A big fish eats the small and a giant fish eats the big one. So the small fish thinks it’s an unfair world, the big fish thinks that the world is fair and the giant fish, he thinks it’s the most fair of all world’s. You have to survive, procreate, and prosper or you are nothing, literally. Anyone on the level of Trump or Buffet has teach and of a sable-tooth tiger. It simply can’t be any other way.

        Yakov

        January 24, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    • World population has exploded (except for whites) while IPP has existed, so one could reasonably say they have been ineffective and are unneeded.

      Glengarry

      January 24, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    • Right now the thing that is getting the left’s panties in a twist is DAPL. Signed an EO allowing it to go forward.

      gothamette

      January 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm

  15. OT. But this is the absolute funniest thing you have seen in a long time. Hillary SJW supporter has hysterical breakdown in a Coffee Shop. To truly appreciate the performance, watch it to the very end. The punchline at the end is pure comedic genius, except it isn’t scripted, its real.

    Daniel

    January 23, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    • LOL! It was worth sitting through all that clichéd rage to get to the punch line.

      peterike

      January 23, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    • Fake. Looks like Improv practice. The barista, crazy woman and camera man and maybe the others are all in on the “performance”.

      Rifleman

      January 23, 2017 at 10:39 pm

  16. Trump has to do the anti abortion stuff to satisfy the stupid Christians. Keep in mind that even Breitbart is anti abortion.

    I’m not worried, but I am irritated by the lack of anti immigration stuff so far. I know there is going to be anti immigration stuff this week but it better not just be the wall. I want the wall plus e-verify, bringing back secure communities and defunding of sanctuary cities. I don’t give a shit about DACA and workplace enforcement.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 23, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    • I’m not worried, but I am irritated by the lack of anti immigration stuff so far.

      Maybe he’s waiting to nominate and confirm Kris Kobach to be Deputy Sec of Homeland Security.

      I hope.

      Rifleman

      January 23, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      • Trump sincerely believes what the less aware among us call “the anti-abortion” stuff. For nations to live in harmony, there needs to be agreement that we all protect the small and the vulnerable. Plus, you don’t need to be intellectual to figure out why a 70 year old Dad with a 10-year-old son that looks like him wants to protect the unborn. Pro-life equals mutual respect among humans, which is the goal you all need to strive for, it will bring about the good things you dream of. Drop your pro-abortion foolishness and join a better world in every way! That is what Donald Trump, bless his heart, is doing.

        howitzer daniel

        January 23, 2017 at 8:02 pm

      • He’s been President like….24 hours? Do you think you can wait maybe a few more days before he begins the deportations?

        gothamette

        January 23, 2017 at 9:36 pm

      • Pro-life equals mutual respect among humans, which is the goal you all need to strive for, it will bring about the good things you dream of. Drop your pro-abortion foolishness and join a better world in every way!

        Nope. Anti-abortion is mostly about male domination of women rooted in sexual insecurity.

        White guys in the anti-abortion movement like to feel heroic protecting “muh unborn babies”.

        In fact they mostly just want to control sexually “loose” women because they are angry that other men are having too much sex and women are picking the “wrong type of guys”.

        Same goes for MRA men’s rights nerds, MGTOW men go their own way types. All sexually insecure beta males.

        Women don’t hate all beta males but they do tend to hate insecure, sexually inadequate dudes who need to live out their beta male obsessions.

        It’s not about protecting the unborn, it’s about controlling women and limiting their options.

        Anti-abortion obsessions are really a form of “beta male rage” against women hidden behind the goal of protecting the “unborn”.

        Rifleman

        January 23, 2017 at 10:37 pm

      • Casting abortion as an issue of controlling women would be amusing if some weak-minded people didn’t actually believe it. A profound demonstration of how people are more willing to believe a big lie than the truth.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        January 24, 2017 at 11:41 am

      • I’d actually strongly prefer it if deportations, wall building, e-verify and besieging sanctuary cities did begin on day one.

        Glengarry

        January 24, 2017 at 12:52 pm

      • you don’t need to be intellectual to figure out why a 70 year old Dad with a 10-year-old son that looks like him wants to protect the unborn.

        Yep. You can generally tell, with a fair degree of precision, which men have children and which don’t, from their stance on abortion. Stable, normal men with children are generally at least mildly pro-life.

        SJ, Esquire (formerly Samson J).

        January 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm

      • Rifleman: Trump is anti-abortion and is about to name the most anti-abortion Supreme Court Justice since the 1960s: because he thinks it is right. That is what we are talking about. Do you seriously consider him a beta male? Your logic fails right there.

        howitzer daniel

        January 24, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    • Let’s not lose our heads here.

      Planned Parenthood is a politically oriented, left-wing organization that does a lot more than abortions and are just as much as enemy as the media. We don’t worry about a media company going out of business and assume that free speech will be destroyed. Why do we assume abortions-for-Democrats will somehow disappear just because Planned Parenthood goes away?

      map

      January 24, 2017 at 5:07 am

      • Any and all abortionists are obviously going to be left-wing activists as long as the GOP is anti-abortion.

        snorlaxwp

        January 24, 2017 at 11:44 am

      • snorlaxwp,

        The thing is, we discussed this problem before. There are some people on the alt-right who observe the very large numbers of abortions committed by minorities or undesirables or leftists in general and they think Planned Parenthood is some kind of fast-one they pulled on the Democrats. They rationalize support for abortion because of this and imagine some huge, swollen population of minorities emerging in some counterfactual where abortion was never legalized.

        Let’s ask a simple question: do you think Democrats are being fooled? Do you think the executives of Planned Parenthood never noticed the demographic breakdown of their clients? Why do you think they continue to run this organization in the face of these facts?

        IOW, what do they know that you don’t?

        PP knows that minorities use abortion as a contraceptive only. They know it will not affect the population of minorities because the federal government will help them have as many children as they want. Abortion funding, therefore, has no impact on how many minorities ultimately end up being born.

        What abortion funding does do is free up capital for PP to operate against white people, like providing off-the-books “medical care” for someone’s underage daughter without knowledge or consent of her parents. Or covering up rapes and molestations. Or gathering information about her family. All of this is being done without the supervision of her parents, something that is not done through normal medical channels.

        By cutting off abortion funding, you draw resources back to the contraceptive practice and away from the white subversion practice.

        map

        January 24, 2017 at 4:39 pm

      • Liberals support abortion because of gender equality, it has nothing to do with blacks or whites.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 24, 2017 at 7:34 pm

      • “Liberals support abortion because of gender equality, it has nothing to do with blacks and whites.” Agreed.

        howitzer daniel

        January 24, 2017 at 11:11 pm

      • What gender equality?

        Men can’t get pregnant.

        map

        January 26, 2017 at 3:46 am

  17. Trump sincerely believes what the less aware among us call “the anti-abortion” stuff. For nations to live in harmony, there needs to be agreement that we all protect the vulnerable. Plus, you don’t need to be intellectual to figure out why a 70 year old Dad with a 10-year-old son that looks like him wants to protect the unborn. Pro-life equals mutual respect among humans, which is the goal you all need to strive for, it will bring about the good things you dream of. Drop your pro-abortion foolishness and join a better world in every way!

    howitzer daniel

    January 23, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    • “Pro-life equals mutual respect among humans, which is the goal you all need to strive for, it will bring about the good things you dream of. Drop your pro-abortion foolishness and join a better world in every way!”

      I agree with you completely, and that’s why the abortion of blacks makes my world better in every way: fewer blacks equals greater mutual respect among HUMANS.

      hard9bf

      January 24, 2017 at 12:03 am

    • ” Pro-life equals mutual respect among humans”

      How so? This construction doesn’t even logic. You even think?

      When I look inside your skull all I see is viruses that have completely changed the meaning of words. You need a serious cleaning or carantene.

      Your post doesn’t make any sense.

      bombexpert

      January 24, 2017 at 5:59 am

    • No, Trump is a middle of the road New Yorker so he probably doesn’t worry much about abortion clinics. The pro-life stuff comes from somewhere else. (Where oh where might that be?)

      I’m a bit bummed out that the alt-right has failed to push its rather modest goals while the usual suspects apparently swarmed the administration and its agenda.

      Glengarry

      January 24, 2017 at 12:56 pm

      • The only issue Trump cares about enough to [maybe] push back against Priebus on is trade.

        snorlaxwp

        January 24, 2017 at 1:18 pm

      • The only issue Trump cares about enough to [maybe] push back against Priebus on is trade.

        Trump has already moved big on trade.

        But immigration is conspicuous by its absence…

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 24, 2017 at 5:54 pm

      • Looks like Trump didn’t forget after all:

        WASHINGTON — President Trump on Wednesday will order the construction of a Mexican border wall — the first in a series of actions this week to crack down on immigrants and bolster national security, including slashing the number of refugees who can resettle in the United States and blocking Syrians and others from “terror prone” nations from entering, at least temporarily.

        The orders are among an array of national security directives Mr. Trump is considering issuing in the coming days, according to people who have seen the orders.

        Okay, I’ll be patient for a bit longer.

        Glengarry

        January 25, 2017 at 4:08 am

  18. I’m very disappointed in Trump’s hiring freeze.

    1. If the current batch of federal government employees are poor quality, shouldn’t we try to replace them with fresh talent?

    2. The federal government will outsource assignments to private contractors who are, if anything, more expensive than career bureaucrats. This won’t cut government spending.

    3. Federal agencies resent hiring freezes. They’ll be happy to undermine Trump whenever the risks are low now. Work performance will like deteriorate, given the disruption.

    I think a lot of us on HBD, paleocon and alt-right blogs have been over intellectualizing Trump. I fell into that trap too. I fear he’s really just a crass, vulgar and uninteresting simpleton. I’m glad we don’t have Hillary in charge and I hope it works out under Trump, but boy do I wish some other Republican who could govern effectively had taken up Trump’s stance on illegal immigration and won.

    Sid

    January 23, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    • The tired old bureaucrats often suck the energy and drive out of new, young federal employees.

      Contractors are generally more expensive than government employees. It is often the case even when accounting for post retirement benefits.

      Matt Stevens

      January 23, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    • The Feds could run successfully on half of the employees it utilizes now. Bunch of affirmative action hires. The USPS is just one example.

      K.l. Asher

      January 24, 2017 at 12:22 am

    • “Federal agencies resent hiring freezes. They’ll be happy to undermine Trump whenever the risks are low now.”

      Oh, you mean they weren’t doing that before?

      Glengarry

      January 24, 2017 at 1:00 pm

  19. Otis, God even wants a bloodthirsty moron like you to live a full life.

    Andrew E.

    January 23, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    • Even God reads the Otis Index.

      Curle

      January 24, 2017 at 6:10 am

      • It is well regarded.

        Lowe

        January 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm

  20. He already has.

    snorlaxwp, I thought so too. And then Trump happened. So I was wrong. And you are also.

    Andrew E.

    January 23, 2017 at 8:56 pm

  21. I found this funny and interesting article:

    White Americans who identify themselves as ethnic Germans and Italians voted for Trump in large numbers.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/peteraldhous/trump-and-the-white-vote?utm_term=.wpGLQY7Gj#.rtDLgrNRQ

    Now, where does this leave the Jews like Yakov and Lion? Germans and Italians have a legacy of being fascists (and also anti-semites).

    JS

    January 23, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    • Middle America has a large German population and Northeastern Republicans are usually guido-sounding types — which formed the core of Trump’s prole constituency.

      JS

      January 23, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    • ‘Now, where does this leave the Jews like Yakov and Lion?’

      Trump brings us all together.

      Italians weren’t big anti-semites. Mussolini didn’t beleive in Hitler’s racial theories. When in Italy, I went to a local sports club to watch a boxing match and introduced myself as ‘Ebreo russo’, only when I left had I realized that it was a fascist club with a poster of Hitler and Mussolini on the outside wall. I had no problems, but I had not received the usual warm Italian welcome either. I don’t think that this story could have happened in Poland or Ukraine.

      Yakov

      January 23, 2017 at 11:56 pm

      • The word ghetto comes from Italian, as in the Jewish ghetto.

        JS

        January 24, 2017 at 9:42 am

      • For a nation that has been a home to Vatican, Italians are remarkably tolerant of the Jews. Mussolini wouldn’t hand his Jews over to Hitler, nor would Franco or Bulgaria. This has to be appreciated.

        Getto was a good thing for the Jews. It protected them from unnecessary contacts that could have cause the weaker once, like Lion, to assimilate.

        Yakov

        January 24, 2017 at 2:47 pm

      • Some years ago this ran in the Wall Street Journal:
        An Army of Shindlers From Italy
        By Dorothy Rabinowitz
        http://www.italystl.com/ra/4335.htm

        Nedd Ludd

        January 24, 2017 at 9:59 pm

      • Mussolini in race:

        ‘Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.’

        Yakov

        January 25, 2017 at 12:40 am

    • To what degree does European anti-semitism track with a rise in Bolshevism? If the two are correlated, can one say the same for the US?

      Curle

      January 24, 2017 at 6:23 am

      • The fundamental cause if anti-semitism is Jewish superiority to native population. This is understandable – no nation wants to be dominated by foreigners. There are always Jews to hate regardless of your individual ideology. Monarchists hated Jewish bolsheviks and democrats, bolsheviks hated Jewish capitalists and bourgeoisie, nationalists hated all Jews. This is the conundrum of the Jewish existence, the Ying and Yang, the swinging pendulum: do we need the Jews or are we better off getting rid of them? are they human or sub(super)human? what should be the final solution of the Jewish question?

        I think Jews should mostly live in their own country. This is to the benefit of everybody. This way the world can benefit from the Jewish intellectual contributions and the Temple worship without feeling antagonized by their ubiquitous presence. There aren’t that many Jews, it just feels like there is a lot of them and that they are everywhere. We have to accept this reality.

        Yakov

        January 24, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    • Anti-Semitism in Southern Europe was clearly different from the Northern Atlantic region and one can make a case that Jews were much better treated in the Mediterranean, and in some instances, assimilation was genuinely encouraged of them, where as Northern European nations always disdained Jews.

      It was a myth that Catholic Spain expelled Jews, because they hated them. They expelled the Jews who didn’t want to assimilate. Those who became Catholics (the Conversos) were granted many privileges and thrived. However the situation was different in Germany, Jews assimilated and were still hated as always.

      The real irony is that Jews don’t care for the Mediterranean nations, simply because it’s not a region of capitalism and wealth. So they settle in Northern European nations like Germany and England…where wealth is found…but hatred of Jews are much more severe.

      JS

      January 25, 2017 at 10:25 pm

  22. Media crowd estimates are about as accurate as CIA intel. Bad, way off, and lie about it. They said there were 500,000 wimmen at the labia and vulva Gynosupremacy Parade. I saw pictures of about two or three hundred genetic failures who were old and fat. Why weren’t they aborted?
    I suppose if there were fewer people for an outdoor inauguration for Trump the media will have four weeks of no mandate propaganda read to all four people that still care or believe anything they say. However since this isn’t a paying crowd or corporate event, it means bupkus.
    Trump just put a hiring freeze on the Federal Government. He did more Today than Newt, Reagan or the Lincoln Log Cabin Boys ever did. I think the DNC slush fund managers are now all on suicide watch.

    Joshua Sinistar

    January 23, 2017 at 10:56 pm

  23. So Monday came and went, and still no executive action on immigration. Priebus and Spicer cucking out in TV interviews. DACA applications still being approved. Executive orders have been entirely TruCon garbage on Obamacare repeal, regulation/hiring freezes and the Mexico City policy.

    Priebus as Chief of Staff is a catastrophe and Bannon and Miller have been soft-purged.

    Why aren’t Ann Coulter, Mickey Kaus and Mark Krikorian screaming bloody murder right now, instead of about stupid irrelevant crap like the Pudzer nomination?

    snorlaxwp

    January 24, 2017 at 1:02 am

  24. The cost of the federal bureucracy is miniscule compared to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Rent Assistance, the Military, and interest on the national debt. Some federal workers more than pay for themselves, such as IRS employees.

    Mark Caplan

    January 24, 2017 at 10:38 am

    • Like Lois Lerner.

      Glengarry

      January 24, 2017 at 1:12 pm

  25. Has Trump announced legislation for a remittance tax yet? Or something to reduce H1B use? He hasn’t rescinded Obama’s protections for illegals yet. When is he going to act on his flagship issue?

    Every day that passes without him doing this makes it exponentially less likely he ever will. If he hasn’t publicly announced at least one major anti-immigration measure by the end of the week, I will have to assume he either lied during the campaign, or he has been taken in by Republican yes-men.

    Waiting for Kobach to pass confirmation doesn’t seem like an adequate explanation. If the guy isn’t confirmed, Trump can nominate another supporter, then another, etc.

    Further, even the current federal officials are obligated to follow his orders. There is no reason to delay increases in deportations, actions against sanctuary cities, etc, whether or not current officials agree with it.

    Lowe

    January 24, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    • He’s appointed a FAIR person to work on the border. He’s announcing a provisional version of the Muslim ban tomorrow.

      No need to touch DACA now. Focus on the wall and sanctuary cities for now. Should have some wall progress by the end of the week and the sanctuary cities stuff will start after Sessions is confirmed in late January.

      Otis the Sweaty

      January 24, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    • DACA is the hill the Left has chosen to die on. They are just waiting for Trump to reverse DACA so they can unleash holy hell to the greatest extent of their powers. Trump doesn’t even have his Secretary of State, AG, SCOTUS nominee or most of his cabinet confirmed. And virtually every cabinet department touches on immigration in some way. Maybe Trump should do it anyway, consequences be damned. But he may be well served to leverage the Left’s incredible emotional investment in DACA to get other things he wants in the meantime — the Wall, sanctuary cities, mandatory e-verify, etc. Get his infrastructure in place before lowering the boom. He’s rumored to sign some exec. orders on Thursday. We’ll see.

      Andrew E.

      January 24, 2017 at 8:21 pm

      • @ Otis & Andrew E.

        I just heard that he plans to end the Syrian refugee program, and temporarily ban immigrants from several Muslim nations, though it wasn’t clear whether it would happen tomorrow, or Thursday.

        That’s good news, as far as him keeping his word, but it really can’t happen soon enough. There’s no call for reservations of any kind. He needs to go all out with no delay. He may never again have the momentum he has now, and the Republican majorities should protect his nominees in confirmation, anyway.

        His enemies will interpret any hesitation as weakness, so the best tact is a massive show of force.

        Lowe

        January 24, 2017 at 9:36 pm

  26. Comment from DKos: “What is the Democrats’ position on illegal immigration?

    ARE WE FOR “OPEN BORDERS” and a continuation of the status quo?

    The way a lot of working Americans see it, they have gotten squeezed. Trade deals that sent jobs overseas, and an influx of cheap labor and undocumented workers that are willing to work for less.

    This fear and economic anxiety is the real reason Trump beat Clinton. (imho).

    I think we should be for a clampdown against employers who use illegal labor. If that takes a national thumbprint ID card, so be it.

    In any case, we should be leading the debate about how to protect American jobs.”

    Hmmm…. some white liberals losing their enthusiasm for open borders? The comment does have 4 upvotes.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    • My God, he sounds like Trump!

      Two in the Bush

      January 24, 2017 at 11:10 pm

  27. Trump has declared his inauguration day as The National Day of Patriotic Devotion. A capital idea!

    Yakov

    January 24, 2017 at 8:33 pm

  28. Yakov said:

    “Can you imagine African migrants molesting hundreds of German women in public squares 70 years ago and nobody knowing what to do about it? Germans have become untermenchen”

    Agree with you fully Yakov, but you do realize that if a white Christian uttered that sentiment they’d be labelled a nazi and dragged off for re-education.

    Roli

    January 25, 2017 at 2:30 am

    • I think you’ll be surprised by the public support that he would receive. We have nothing to be afraid but the fear itself. But yeah, using the term ‘untermench’ is the hight of political incorrectness. What should we use? Citizens with lowered social responsibility awareness? Untermech is short and crisp.

      Yakov

      January 25, 2017 at 9:42 am

    • Mohammedans couldn’t have molested women in public in *any* European country 70 years ago. Now they can get away with it in virtually all of the countries in western Europe. The left’s campaign against masculinity over the past 50 or so years has been largely successful. With only a handful of exceptions, the only white people who are capable of defending themselves in European countries are members of the right (many of whom are fascists).

      Lewis Medlock

      January 25, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    • Agree with you fully Yakov, but you do realize that if a white Christian uttered that sentiment they’d be labelled a nazi and dragged off for re-education.

      I didn’t notice it, you dumbass, because white Christians do say what Yakov did – anonymously and on the internet – without being dragged off.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 25, 2017 at 10:30 pm

  29. Trump is about to order some truly wonderful Executive Orders tomorrow, if the CNN report is to be believed. I probably should’ve had more faith, but I still think we shouldn’t take our eyes off Priebus for one second.

    The first order will direct the Department of Homeland Security to begin construction of the border wall, as well as take steps to repair existing areas of fencing along the frontier between the US and Mexico. The order will also include a mandate to increase staff at Customs and Border Protection by 5,000 and alleviate the flood of migrants fleeing violence in Central America.

    According to the person familiar with the plans, Trump’s executive order will require DHS to publicly detail what aid is currently directed to Mexico, an indication of an eventual move toward redirecting some of that money to fund the wall’s construction — and giving cover for a longstanding campaign promise to have Mexico pay for the structure.

    A second order will work to eliminate so-called “sanctuary cities,” where municipal governments refuse to hand over undocumented immigrants to federal authorities. That order will triple resources for Immigration and Custom Enforcement and direct the federal government to identify criminal aliens in the US.
    Officials said Trump would wait until later in the week to take action on visas and refugees, potentially as early as Thursday.

    An order being prepared for Trump’s signature includes the drastic measure of suspending the entire refugee program for four months in an attempt to gauge which country’s migrants pose the least risk for US national security. A program for admitting Syrian refugees, who are fleeing civil war and a humanitarian crisis, would be ended indefinitely.

    The measure being drafted specifies that migrants who engage in bigotry, so-called “honor killings” by males of their female relatives, and violence against women shouldn’t be admitted. It caps the total number of refugees admitted in the 2017 fiscal year at 50,000. And it directs the Pentagon and US State Department to plan “safe zones” inside Syria, which the previous administration rejected as unlikely to alleviate civilian suffering.

    snorlaxwp

    January 25, 2017 at 3:15 am

    • I think Trump reads Ann Coulter’s Twitter feed and/or Breitbart daily, so this may also be in response to the complaining. Previous doubling-downs, in lieu of what appeared to be imminent flip-flops, after Coulter/Breitbart complained include the “softening” that wasn’t in the “major immigration speech,” the Flynn instead of McCaul nomination for DHS, and Pudzer’s statement on immigration.

      snorlaxwp

      January 25, 2017 at 3:25 am

  30. A guy from the netherlands had a wonderful idea : the trump solar wall. If Mexican agree to buy the electricity produced by such a wall, in 15 years you get the wall fully repaid, they got there green energy criteria and american have their wall paid by mexican. And solar are beautiful pieces of construction (compared to mortar)

    Bruno from Paris

    January 25, 2017 at 12:27 pm

    • Eh, it’s better not to make it overcomplicated. We want the wall to be completed before the end of Trump’s first term, and ideally before the 2018 midterm election.

      snorlaxwp

      January 25, 2017 at 1:03 pm

  31. A environmental friendly wall would have less chances to be challenged in court for environmental construction and urbanism laws that can be messy, everywhere in the world.
    Due process of law is the reason why Trump has already adandonned the idea of deporting the 11 millions illegals that don’t have crime records. Because he would need decades to get it done ….

    Bruno from Paris

    January 25, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    • He has abandoned the idea because he never took it seriously in the first place. He is going to end sanctuary cities, deport huge numbers of immigrants and make it impossible for illegals to find work or send their kids to school. The illegals will deport themselves.

      Otis the Sweaty

      January 25, 2017 at 5:18 pm

  32. Put solar cells and windmills on the wall.

    Robert

    January 25, 2017 at 4:03 pm


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