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Alexandre Bisonnette, beta-male

From a Google translation of an article at La Presse

People around him say he was bullied at school. “In high school, he and his brother did not really have friends. Alexander, especially, had an antisocial personality, testifies Stéphanie Guimond, who did all his secondary course with the suspect. As he was always apart, he attracted taunts. He responded with insults, and the confrontations seemed to amuse him. He treated girls of whores, for example. The two brothers did not go to their graduating ball, the young woman added. When they were 14 or 15 years old, they boasted of creating computer viruses to sabotage corporate networks.

“When we talked about him and his twin brother, they were called” the villain “and” the gentile. ” His brother was much more amiable, “testifies Marc-André Malenfant, who also knew Alexandre Bissonnette in high school. “What I retain most of him is his arrogance. ”

“He was a quiet guy, not at all violent. I never imagined that he could do anything like that, “commented Marius Valentino, who occasionally attended Alexandre Bissonnette and his twin brother for several years. “I saw him about two weeks ago. We had a beer together. He liked to talk about politics, but never had anything inappropriate. He never expressed admiration for extremist politicians. ”

Police investigators spent the afternoon at the home of Alexandre Bissonnette’s parents in Cap-Rouge, under the incredulous eyes of neighbors in this wealthy and quiet neighborhood.

Here, the brothers Bissonnette, identical twins, are known figures on the Rue du Tracel.

Wow, what an interesting case of nature vs. nurture. The identical twin brother was also a beta-male who was bullied by his classmates, but he wasn’t as bitter or angry as Alexandre, and he didn’t go postal.

They appear to have high IQs, because they allegedly created computer viruses when they were 14 and 15.

That his parents are rich reminds me of Elliot Rodger. But unlike Rodger who killed the people whom he believed were directly responsible for his problems (girls his own age), Alexandre goes the route of white-trash Dylann Roof.

I do believe that this is a crime that wouldn’t have happened if Alexandre’s parents had been able to provide him with a schooling situation where he wasn’t bullied by his classmates. And since his parents, like Elliot Rodger’s parents, were rich, we can’t blame their lack of money or sophistication for their failure to do better for their son.

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January 30, 2017 at 7:02 pm

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  1. That his parents are rich reminds me of Elliot Rodger.

    The Lion has never lost his deep empathy for spree shooter nerds.

    I do believe that this is a crime that wouldn’t have happened if Alexandre’s parents had been able to provide him with a schooling situation where he wasn’t bullied by his classmates.

    “Yale or jail” is now literally true.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    January 30, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    • What’s wrong with having empathy?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 30, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      • Something happened to my reply – are you censoring me, Lion? I responded, “you are supposed to have empathy for the victim.”

        Anyway onto other things.

        Roof and Bissonnette are very worrying. Back when crazy BLM inspired blacks were assassinating cops, Sailer pointed out that every movement has a few unhinged types who will take matters into their own hands.

        But when the shoe is on the other foot, crickets.

        The alt-right is made up of crazy people. I don’t consider Lion to be alt-right. He’s more a liberal dissenter.

        gothamette

        January 31, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    • What’s wrong with having empathy?

      Nothing!

      Empathy is what makes lions superior to reptiles.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 30, 2017 at 9:16 pm

  2. Can Trump get around this by denying Quebec is part of Western civilization?

    The Undiscovered Jew

    January 30, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    • I’ve been there… and it is NOT a part of Western civilization as we understand it. A lot of third world style nepotism and clumsy incompetence.
      Beautiful women, though.

      Dave

      January 30, 2017 at 8:19 pm

      • The French Speaking province is considered poor by Canadian Standards, but research has shown that it citizens have a higher disposable income than the average American.

        JS

        January 30, 2017 at 9:50 pm

      • Interesting…I only know one French Canadian woman and she is pretty plain. I guess that’s the danger of forming sweeping judgments from my own small pool of experiences.

        Jokah Macpherson

        January 30, 2017 at 9:54 pm

      • I’ve been there… and it is NOT a part of Western civilization as we understand it. A lot of third world style nepotism and clumsy incompetence.

        More than good enough for a Trump talking point.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        January 30, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Niggers_of_America

        “White Niggers of America (French: Les Nègres blancs d’Amérique) is a work of non-fiction literature written by Pierre Vallières, a leader of the Front de libération du Québec.[1]

        White Niggers of America chronicles the history of the French colonists of North America, first in the New France colonial empire, and then in British North America. A book about exploitation, author Vallières compares to some extent the plight of these immigrants to that of blacks in the American South, arguing that both groups were forcibly imported to the New World and subsequently exploited by aristocrat capitalists.”

        “The book is a class analysis of French Canadian settlement and social, political, and economic life in Canada since arrival. Vallières argues that French Canadians have been kept in a position of exploited workers by the English upper class entrepreneurs. He draws parallels between the social and economic position of French Canadians and slaves in the United States, hoping to show that both cultural groups have been brought to the continent to serve as the lower, under, and working class for a common oppressor.

        Vallières’s intention of using the term “nigger” is not solely as a cultural or racial indicator, but as a concept encompassing social class and power. In drawing these comparisons, he states that the liberation movements of Black people in America have provided inspiration for French Canadians.”

        Tom

        January 31, 2017 at 12:31 am

      • I only know one French Canadian woman and she is pretty plain.

        Weird. I would say that observing French-Canadian chicks, in my late teen years, was actually one of my proto-introductions to the idea that different genetic subpopulations really do have micro-variations in evolutionary history.

        The classic French-Canadian woman is a genetic blend of a small population of French stock mixed with the best of Native blood. They are typically very attractive.

        SJ, Esquire (formerly Samson J)

        January 31, 2017 at 8:34 am

      • Utter liberal BS!

        Would you want to live in French Speaking Canada or one of our hoods in the United States!

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 9:34 am

      • TUJ — What are you talking about?

        Trump is no different from the French Canadians when it comes to business matters.

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 9:37 am

      • The French Speaking province is considered poor

        I’ve heard this, but how do so may of them, retirees and younger, spend four months every winter on Hollywood (FL) Beach, and three months every summer on the NH and ME beaches?

        Beautiful women

        If seen a mixed bag. A lot of them seem to look like Celine Dion, who by the way has a net worth of over $700 million and just lowered the price of her S. FL mansion to $38 million.

        E. Rekshun

        January 31, 2017 at 11:46 am

      • They are poor because they are lazy. And like all lazy bastard they whine a lot.

        Yakov

        January 31, 2017 at 2:56 pm

      • Just saw this:

        ‘he states that the liberation movements of Black people in America have provided inspiration for French Canadians.’

        Exactly! Capital! Compared to the Anglo-Saxon race they are niggers! Look at JS, day and night he hogs the thread with whining. Had he spent this time washing dishes in a bar, he would’ve had a nice stash by now to show for his efforts. Yeah but they have ‘culture’! Like as if BSing in cafes till the whee hours is culture. After you worked hard, you can sit in a cafe, that’s different, I’m not saying no or like there is anything wrong with cafes. But these guys think it’s OK just to take it easy. These guys are very lazy. Why? Oh why didn’t the US just conquer Canada back in the day and made menchen out of these people? All this land is going to waste. I think that if Trump were a president 150 years ago he would annex Canada. Maybe it’s not too late, their immigration policies are endangering us and this is a casus belli. A think most of Canadians will be happy to go under Trump.

        Yakov

        January 31, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    • Yes, many Americans have never visited that part of the world, not even Montréal.

      JS

      January 30, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      • I think there’s a very high quality of life in Montreal. The only real drag is the winter, which really is brutal (both physically and mentally). I think the intense diversity of Montreal is making it a more stressful place to live. St. Laurent is a mess of fistfights every weekend (the black clubs open and close quite dramatically). And ride on the Metro can be eye opening (you don’t see a lot of Quebecois).

        French Canadian women are very sexy. A big part of it is style and femininity. And they enjoy sex, which obviously helps. English Canadian women — particularly the urban Ontario female — are masculine, feminist, and extremely uptight.

        Montreal is not really a friendly city (in my opinion). Ethnic groups, (Greeks, Italians, Jewish, Arab, French etc.) tend to cling together in their own cliques. It has an intense loneliness too. I think this is a combo of the weather + the ethnic diversity and language politics.

        SWPL2

        January 31, 2017 at 8:23 am

      • And how is this a problem for me as an ex-Manhattanite?

        I have no problems with the Greeks, because I can have a basic conversation with them in their own language. The same goes for the Arabs.

        How can you be lonely if you are able f*ck women (including Anglophone b*tches) in Montréal? It’s basically a college town with young women everywhere.

        You must have issues!

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 9:48 am

      • I visited Montreal as a child in 1967, but have no memory of any of it. Only a little blue vinyl bag with the logo “Expo ’67” on it. A shame. I would have loved to comment on Canada vs. the U.S. and to compare Montreal to NYC. I’m curious about how Montreal compares to NYC. If there was any significant (numerically, that is) Italian community there I might even consider moving.

        Maryk

        January 31, 2017 at 8:46 am

      • Its Little Italy has a lot of older folks while NYC’s Little Italy is now attracting young residents paying $3k and upwards in rent so they can live in one of those tenement style buildings. Manhattan’s Little Italy is exclusively Southern Italians, with no bookstores, and no Northern Italians….just gaudiness for proles.

        Shockingly to some of the readers here, I’ve seen women wearing hijabs in Little Italy. There are Muslims living there.

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 9:55 am

      • @MaryK: I visited Montreal as a child in 1967, but have no memory of any of it. Only a little blue vinyl bag with the logo “Expo ’67” on it.

        I was there!

        @SWPL2: fistfights every weekend

        About ten years ago, my cousin was brutally stabbed outside a Montreal nightclub at closing time. He spent 6 months recuperating.

        I’ve had two cousins relocate to Montreal from Massachusetts over the past few years. While not Montreal, another in-law (Canadian native) recently inherited 100 oceanfront acres in New Brunswick and is in the process of relocating there w/ her husband (my uncle).

        E. Rekshun

        January 31, 2017 at 11:54 am

      • ‘How can you be lonely if you are able f*ck women (including Anglophone b*tches) in Montréal? It’s basically a college town with young women everywhere.’

        Finally. Stop all this posturing about culture already. Incidently, and it may come as a surprise to you, the two not only are not contradictory, but logically follow one another.

        Yakov

        January 31, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      • Why not?

        Montréal is swimming with culture. Look at NYC, its SWPLs can’t even put together a public concert for other Whites, simply because they’re boring and busy accumulating wealth.

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    • Had he spent this time washing dishes in a bar, he would’ve had a nice stash by now to show for his efforts.

      How much does that job earn?

      Oh why didn’t the US just conquer Canada back in the day and made menchen out of these people? All this land is going to waste. I think that if Trump were a president 150 years ago he would annex Canada.

      We tried in the war of 1812 but our army was driven back by British reinforcements who went on to burn down the White House. President Polk a few decades later contemplated invading Canada but decided against it because it would have upset the free state-slave state balance.

      Maybe it’s not too late, their immigration policies are endangering us and this is a casus belli. A think most of Canadians will be happy to go under Trump.

      What do we with Lion’s Canadian readership? Do we evacuate them to Lion’s apartment as refugees?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      January 31, 2017 at 6:06 pm

  3. Better translation:

    People around him say he was bullied at school. “In high school, he and his brother did not really have friends. Alexander, especially, had an antisocial personality,” remembers Stéphanie Guimond, who went to high school with the suspect. “Since he was always alone, he attracted mockery. He responded with insults, and the confrontations seemed to amuse him. He called girls whores, for example.” The two brothers did not go to their senior prom, the young woman added. When they were 14 or 15 years old, they boasted of creating computer viruses to sabotage corporate networks.

    “When we talked about him and his twin brother, they were called ‘the mean one’ and ‘the nice one.’ His brother was much more amiable,” remembers Marc-André Malenfant, who also knew Alexandre Bissonnette in high school. “What I remember most about him is his arrogance.”

    “He was a quiet guy — not at all violent. I never imagined that he could do anything like that,” commented Marius Valentino, who occasionally visited Alexandre Bissonnette and his twin brother for several years. “I saw him about two weeks ago. We had a beer together. He liked to talk about politics, but never anything inappropriate. He never expressed admiration for extremist politicians.”

    Police investigators spent the afternoon at the home of Alexandre Bissonnette’s parents in Cap-Rouge, under the incredulous eyes of neighbors in this wealthy and quiet neighborhood.

    The Bissonnette brothers, identical twins, are well-known on Tracel Rd.

    snorlaxwp

    January 30, 2017 at 7:49 pm

  4. I took a look at pictures and read what is available about him. Definitely not a beta male. Looks like a normal rather attractive guy. They say he is Pro-Israel and Trump supporter. Well anyway, he is only 27 and already famous.

    My Two Cents

    January 30, 2017 at 7:52 pm

  5. We have to make Alexandre the next Mumia.

    Harvard Hates America

    January 30, 2017 at 8:40 pm

  6. Finally, unlike like Rodger’s case, we get one where the killer has an MZ twin:

    Beware Armchair Psychoanalysis

    JayMan

    January 30, 2017 at 8:50 pm

  7. I do believe that this is a crime that wouldn’t have happened if Alexandre’s parents had been able to provide him with a schooling situation where he wasn’t bullied by his classmates.

    Well that didn’t seem to bother the twin…

    Perhaps that wasn’t possible. Being the victim of bullying is heritable.

    JayMan

    January 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    • I am sure it BOTHERED the twin, but for some reason the twin dealt with it better.

      And since they are identical, we have proof that something environmental happened to one twin but not the other resulting in different outcomes.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 30, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      • Right, and being a spree shooter vs. not being one is a tremendous difference, about as big a difference you can get in life outcomes. It’s not like one twin becoming an accountant and the other a dentist or something. In this case, environment made all the difference in the world, and it made the difference between life and death for the victims.

        Tom

        January 30, 2017 at 10:22 pm

      • I feel really bad for the other twin. Everyone is going to treat him like he’s the shooter for the rest of his life.

        snorlaxwp

        January 30, 2017 at 10:46 pm

      • Nitpick: this was not a spree shooting.

        Look up Charlie Starkweather. That was spree shooting. This was quite targeted.

        gothamette

        January 31, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      • Given the difference in how the twin dealt with bullying, can we chalk this up to choice (ie, free will)?
        These differences seem to have emerged at an early age, since the twin’s nickname was “the gentle one”.

        Evil vs good twin?

        Half Canadian

        January 31, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      • The Google translation was “gentile.” I thought it meant one was Jewish and one was Christian. j/k

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 31, 2017 at 4:39 pm

      • We had proof that “environment” affects twins from the mass of twin studies (e.g., the low concordance of homosexuality in twins).

        Well I meant “bothered” as in “compelled to commit murder”. It’s definitely interesting that in this case the killer has a twin. But we can’t draw too many conclusions because N = 1 pair.

        JayMan

        February 1, 2017 at 7:06 am

      • The article does not specifically say which one was referred to as the “gentle one”.

        DataExplorer

        February 2, 2017 at 2:04 pm

  8. Non-shared environment is a bitch.

    Jokah Macpherson

    January 30, 2017 at 9:45 pm

  9. Bisonette is only considered a criminal because the entire world around him is barking mad. It is truly pathological to defend an enemy invasion. JayMan has always been right, the Achille’s heel of westerner’s is that they are so incredibly outbred that they are too stupid to live.

    jjbees

    January 30, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    • No, it’s always criminal to take things into your own hands. Imagine if everyone felt entitled to massacre a bunch of people they felt were the enemy.

      And thanks to Trumpism, maybe the People are finally wising up and voting into office people who will deal with the real problems of the West.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      January 30, 2017 at 9:51 pm

      • So it was criminal for Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto to fight back?

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 30, 2017 at 10:13 pm

      • No it wasn’t.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 30, 2017 at 10:15 pm

      • What he did was wrong tactically, but condemning it from a moral point of view is bullshit. We are at war.

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 30, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      • We can’t slaughter the Muslims. If we outlaw their religion and not let any more into the country, then the problem will go away.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 30, 2017 at 10:15 pm

      • The tragedy of war is it takes many lives. Blame the liberals who created this.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        January 31, 2017 at 12:54 am

      • “Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto” is a ridiculous comparison. A better analogy would be a Polish Jew in 1937 walking into a Lutheran Church in Katowice, Poland (which still had a substantial German minority at the time) and massacring the parishioners. To me that would be wrong, even in hindsight.

        Peter Akuleyev

        January 31, 2017 at 4:54 am

      • “No, it’s always criminal to take things into your own hands.”

        No, self-defense is always justifiable. Sometimes you have to take things into your own hands.

        Lewis Medlock

        January 31, 2017 at 4:29 pm

      • If you want to live in a society where people make their own decisions with respect who should be killed, and then do it, well that’s what Somalia or Iraq is like.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 31, 2017 at 4:42 pm

  10. The firing of the acting AG tonight was inevitable after she released that memo saying that Trump’s EO was unconstitutional. The left can act like it is some kind of big deal but it really isn’t, anybody would have done the same in Trump’s situation.

    More interesting was the firing of the acting head of DHS. He was almost certainly fired for not defying the court order to let the refugees in.

    The CBP guys who defied the court order must have been acting as rogue agents.

    Otis the Sweaty

    January 30, 2017 at 10:55 pm

  11. As noted, he’s pro-Israel. Just like Breivik, who was strongly influenced by the whole Fjordman/EDL/Norwegian Defense League/X-DL stuff that appeared almost from nowhere eight years ago.

    All backed with Israeli money and named after a much older X-DL.

    Sean Fielding

    January 31, 2017 at 12:04 am

    • lol

      snorlaxwp

      January 31, 2017 at 12:22 am

  12. You’re pinning a social ill on a single individual. Spergy nerd types will always be around, that itself is not the problem.

    It would make more sense to say that this crime wouldn’t have happened if Western society did not import their geopolitical enemies, hence driving people like this to extremes.

    Jason Liu

    January 31, 2017 at 12:36 am

  13. I bet he is schizophrenic.

    Causes of schizophrenia

    It is possible for schizophrenia to develop at any age, but it mostly happens to people within the ages of 16–30 (generally males 16–25 and females 25–
    ;
    Concordance rates between monozygotic twins vary in different studies, approximately 50%;
    ;
    The chance of developing schizophrenia has been found to increase with the number of adverse social factors (e.g. indicators of socioeconomic disadvantage or social exclusion) present in childhood.
    ;
    A personal or recent family history of migration is a considerable risk factor for schizophrenia, which has been linked to psychosocial adversity, social defeat from being an outsider, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment, and poor housing conditions
    ;
    A particularly stable and replicable finding has been the association between living in an urban environment and the development of schizophrenia, even after factors such as drug use, ethnic group and size of social group have been controlled for.
    ;
    The risk increases with the number of years and degree of urban living in childhood and adolescence, suggesting that constant, cumulative, or repeated exposures during upbringing occurring more frequently in urbanized areas are responsible for the association.

    So urbanization and multiculturalism trigger schizophrenia. I did not know that, but it makes sense.

    Bullying by classmates may be a cause or an effect. Why did they pick on him and not his brother? The fact that the twins differed psychologically should have been an indication that something was amiss with one of them.

    Contrarian

    January 31, 2017 at 12:52 am

  14. ‘I do believe that this is a crime that wouldn’t have happened if Alexandre’s parents had been able to provide him with a schooling situation where he wasn’t bullied by his classmates.’

    Pathetic reasoning, as if there is no bullying in elite schools. Wasn’t Romney a bully? Should’ve learned to box and he would’ve gotten alone with people.

    Yakov

    January 31, 2017 at 1:13 am

    • They could have home-schooled him. A lot of parents of aspy children homeschool for that reason. I don’t know how easy it is to home-school in Quebec though.

      Peter Akuleyev

      January 31, 2017 at 4:57 am

    • You can’t get into fights at school. The result is either expulsion or suspension.

      map

      January 31, 2017 at 5:07 am

      • You can’t get into fights at school. The result is either expulsion or suspension.

        In the late ’70s to early ’80s, I got into over a dozen schoolyard fights (lost half of them!). If caught and brought to the principal’s office, the punishment was after-school detention, call parents or parent conference, and threaten suspension.

        E. Rekshun

        January 31, 2017 at 12:02 pm

      • ^but you’re right; today it’s much more strict. Police are called and arrests are made.

        E. Rekshun

        January 31, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      • I got suspended for a fight in high school in which I got my ass kicked. After that I made sure to always fight after school. As long as it’s off school grounds your fine.

        Otis the Sweaty

        January 31, 2017 at 7:50 pm

  15. Mass murder is often depicted as terrorism, but in reality it is a form of the very effective protest. When the guy shoots some 70 random people at a theater, it is protest against unjust society as a whole. In this case it is the protest against certain group of people and associated government policies. Funny part is also that people describe him as a loner. Do you expect anyone to come forward now and admit he was their best friend?

    My Two Cents

    January 31, 2017 at 2:19 am

  16. Every school bully but not the same in the same way : if you go to a bad public school, beta males are the target. If you go to a rich kid private school, it is more a question of social status, but beta male and weak are also bullied . It is only if you go to an elite high iq school – there are not many – that the high iq beta males can flourish ! In those school, the limited iq alpha is the one who is sided apart. So i guess things would have been different .

    I went from a posh pruvate school with stupids kid (lycee Gerson) to a very elite public school (louis le grand, sort of Thomas Jefferson school) and the difference was obvious . All conversations were entierely different, even if i have never been bullied but had no friends in Gerson …
    Ps : i didnt know you say french canadian for people speanking french in canada. We say canadian francophone .

    Bruno from Paris

    January 31, 2017 at 2:50 am

    • The proper term is Québécoise. In Montréal, we have the Librairie Gallimard, a well known bookstore found in Paris, and it carries titles written by French Canadian authors — and the sign says “Littérature québécoise”

      JS

      January 31, 2017 at 10:10 am

      • For some reason, I wasn’t able to reply to your comment above.

        I didn’t mean that I had problems with the Greek community (quite the contrary). The point I was making is that unlike NYC, the ethnic communities in Montreal are (in my experience) much more closely knit. I think of NYC as a much friendlier town to outsiders, probably because it has a large mass of people moving in from all over the place.

        Sure, there is plenty of easy sex in Montreal, and you can definitely navigate the ethnic groups and make friends. However, it took me a little longer than anticipated. My experience with meeting people was that they often had a vast network of friends from their own ethnic group in place. Even though I was accepted, I couldn’t always get them to mix (I had Anglo/ethnic friends who refuse to go to “a pepper bar” and vice versa).

        SWPL2

        January 31, 2017 at 10:32 am

      • NYC’s ethnics confined in their own neighborhoods aren’t friendly towards tourists or outsiders. It’s quite the contrary. Worse, many groups there have nothing to offer in terms of cultural material, only liberal diatribe that comes out of the mouth of Bill de Blasio.

        Why do you need these average “friends”? You are on this blog.

        JS

        January 31, 2017 at 11:03 am

      • Why do you need these average “friends”? You are on this blog.

        Even though we’re hundreds of miles apart and only see them once per year, I’m still friends, after 40 years, with five childhood friends. Adult male friendships are really just acquaintanceship or coworkers.

        E. Rekshun

        January 31, 2017 at 12:09 pm

      • French Canadians are people in Texas. The women, many with red hair, are usually quite good-looking, and often sluts. As a Californian, this was a weird awakening for me.

        marty

        January 31, 2017 at 11:42 pm

  17. I wonder if bullying is a function of close neighborhoods and small suburbs where all of the kids know each other, live in the same neighborhood, and have been going to school with each other since kindergarten.

    It seems like a “familiaruty breeds contempt” problem.

    map

    January 31, 2017 at 5:09 am

    • Bulling is a function of being weak. You have to be willing to die fighting for a cigarette butt (your cigarette butt, obvously) and nobody will bully you. It’s survival of the fittest. It’s pure Darwin.

      Yakov

      January 31, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    • Bullying is a normal emotional reaction. It helps to intimidate, exclude, or kill outsiders. Nothing wrong with it. It serves evolutionary purpose.

      My Two Cents

      January 31, 2017 at 2:42 pm

      • Letting ourselves be dominated by chimpanzee emotions is not the way of civilization.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        January 31, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      • Bulling your classmates, neighbours and fellow citizens offers no evolutionary advantage. It undermines the national cohesion necessary to fight true enemies. The Law of Moses and the tradition of Abraham forbids bulling or cruelty to any human or animal. Bullies have an evolutionary disadvantage as has been illustrated by Romney who was cowed by Obama.

        Yakov

        January 31, 2017 at 7:30 pm

      • I guess it depends on whether one thinks the proper way to get ahead is by brains, hard work and cooperation or by abusing others. Because that’s what bullying really is. It’s someone who’s realized they can raise their esteem in the eyes of their peers by singling another person out and humiliating them. People do it because it works. Which is why I agree with Yakov about fighting back. That doesn’t, however, mean one should fight over every slight. Lots of times you can avoid problems altogether by just staying calm and not taking the bait. After all, one of the tactics bullies use is to bait people. Which brings me to another way one can raise their esteem among their peers — staying above that kind of pettiness. Personally, I’m a bit ornery and like to mix it up. But I’ve learned to restrain myself and be nice to people because that works, too.

        destructure

        January 31, 2017 at 10:27 pm

      • Bullies are sexier, more popular, and have more dates.

        My Two Cents

        January 31, 2017 at 11:26 pm

  18. This is very simple, all the talk about molly coddling, elite schooling and classmates is nonsense. Not that it’s necessarily a bad thing, but it’s not what makes you a man. What a kid needs is to be happy. Happy childhood is the most important thing in your development, not hanging out with phonies like Romney. So here is a very simple basic program: read ‘The Sea Wolf’, go to good old boxing, learn a good simple trade early on in life, like say by you bar mitzvah. Be self-contained, independent and strong. Think, a kid that can do a 100 push-ups straight is gonna get bullied?

    Yakov

    January 31, 2017 at 8:22 am

    • a kid that can do a 100 push-ups

      I maxed out at 70 strict-form push-ups at age 30. My max has been steadily decreasing over the past 20+ years and I now max out at 35. I’ve lost 50 lbs on my bench press and two minutes on my 5K race times.

      E. Rekshun

      January 31, 2017 at 12:13 pm

      • Are you getting bullied now?

        Yakov

        January 31, 2017 at 2:12 pm

  19. I’ve been alarmed at the intensity of the rhetoric I’ve been seeing from the left in the past two weeks. I keep telling my wife that if people don’t start calming down, we see things get really out of hand.

    SWPL2

    January 31, 2017 at 8:25 am

  20. The past few days when I’ve been at that window upstairs, I’ve thought a bit of the ‘shining city upon a hill.’ The phrase comes from John Winthrop, who wrote it to describe the America he imagined. What he imagined was important because he was an early Pilgrim, an early freedom man. He journeyed here on what today we’d call a little wooden boat; and like the other Pilgrims, he was looking for a home that would be free. I’ve spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don’t know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That’s how I saw it, and see it still.

    Ronald Reagan’s 1989 farewell speech.

    mikeca

    January 31, 2017 at 9:58 am

  21. and he didn’t go postal.

    For a while, in the 80s I think, there were several (or a few) highly-publicized USPS workers losing it and slaughtering bunches of coworkers. I wonder why we don’t hear of any USPS workers going “postal” anymore. Maybe the USPS recruited better managers. I know a guy that retired at 58 after 40 years with the USPS. He started out as a regular mail carrier, then transitioned into lower management roles. He hated every day of it. He retired about 15 years ago earning an $85K annual salary in a low cost FL location, and has been enjoying his $65K annual pension ever since.

    I had thought the USPS was in decline and laying off workers. But my current female carrier says the USPS is busier than ever delivering Amazon products. She’ll retire next year at age 50 after 30 years of delivering mail. She says mail delivery in FL is a lot better than mail delivery in CO.

    E. Rekshun

    January 31, 2017 at 11:39 am

    • Downsized expectations, maybe. The guys flipping out 30 years ago were Boomers who grew up in an era of sky-high aspirations. I can’t imagine many of them thought they’d end up being a beaten-down mailman.

      Generation X always had a more tempered sense of what they’d get out of life. They’re also less prone to emotional outbursts than Boomers, in my experience.

      Richard

      January 31, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    • I’ve seen a few articles over the years showing how those old USPS freakouts had a lot to do with the changing demographics of the workplace there, too. You had new types of workers coming in, side-by-side or in power over others. And differences and resentments happened.

      There was a big racial angle in some of those incidents, but that kind of thing wasn’t blasted from rooftops back then in the MSM.

      Camlost

      January 31, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    • @Richard, @Camlost: Yes, true & true.

      E. Rekshun

      January 31, 2017 at 6:24 pm

  22. @E. Rekshun I agree. It’s tough to make friends as you get older. Truth is, anyone who is a family man is generally too busy to hang. My own parents have a different problem, their friends dying(!).

    SWPL2

    January 31, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    • My parents have the same problem (friends dying). Their insanely good health in old age also means that when they get together with their friends who are still alive and everyone talks about their latest medical ailments, they don’t have any stories to share.

      Jokah Macpherson

      January 31, 2017 at 8:46 pm

  23. Sounds about right bullying has consequences ex La Loche.

    Mark van der wal

    February 6, 2017 at 9:31 pm


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