Lion of the Blogosphere

Steve Bannon in the navy

Mostly fair article in the Washington Post

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 10, 2017 at 5:38 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Mostly fair,

    “Some shipmates had more critical recollections of Bannon.

    “He wasn’t the best engineer we had, but he wasn’t bad. He was basically an above-average officer,” said Robin Mickle, a retired Navy captain.”

    A critical recollection is that he was above average?

    Otherwise though, this article does prove that journalists can do good investigative journalism I mean, they actually got copies of the ship’s Log Sheet? That’s pretty in depth research. True, they were fishing, but those investigative skills, rusty after 8 years of an Obama sleep over, are coming back.

    Mike Street Station

    February 10, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    • That guy goes on to say that he disliked Bannon and claims Bannon said he enlisted for the purpose of burnishing his resumé for a political career. So yeah, I’d say that’s on balance a critical recollection (although reading between the lines the source sounds like a liberal who’s retroactively searching for bad things to say about him).

      snorlaxwp

      February 10, 2017 at 9:30 pm

  2. Bannon is Mirror Universe Jim Carville.

    Link for those blocked by paywall or who don’t want to give clicks to WP: http://archive.is/wod6q

    snorlaxwp

    February 10, 2017 at 6:17 pm

  3. I’m a veteran who served in the Navy (enlisted) for 6 years and never saw combat. While I think extra respect should be given to those who have seen combat, and often joke about not being a “real” veteran, that reporter can go to hell. She stresses several times that Bannon never saw combat, and that he had cushy quarters, as if that were relevant.

    At the end of the day, he volunteered to serve 7 years, did multiple deployments, and would have been in combat were he ordered to. Besides, in the 7 years he served, how many American servicemen (servicemen? did I just assume their gender?! #triggered) saw combat?

    But yeah, other than that, mostly fair for the WaPo I guess.

    Raekwon

    February 10, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    • ” in the 7 years he served, how many American servicemen (servicemen? did I just assume their gender?! #triggered) saw combat?”

      As far as I recall, only those who participated in the failed Iranian rescue mission or the liberation of Grenada.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 10, 2017 at 10:14 pm

      • Not to be snarky, but how much “combat” was involved in the Grenada operation?

        Peter Akuleyev

        February 11, 2017 at 4:08 am

      • Not much, I was only pointing out that there were very limited real-combat military operations between the end of the Vietnam war and the start of the first Gulf War.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 11, 2017 at 9:00 am

      • Not much, I was only pointing out that there were very limited real-combat military operations between the end of the Vietnam war and the start of the first Gulf War.

        At this time the only surface fleet that could have put up a serious naval fight against America was the Soviet Union’s navy. Although the American navy never fought the Soviets they did have to engage in maneuvers avoiding, monitoring, and staring down Soviet warships and planes. These non-combat maneuvers were very dangerous and complex to execute, therefore no one should assume American naval personnel who served during the Cold War had an easy ride.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        February 11, 2017 at 10:18 am

    • She (the reporter) never served, now did she?

      Hypocrite.

      Robert

      February 11, 2017 at 3:55 am

  4. It’s just another liberal hit piece. The entire thing is riddled with small needles at Bannon, just like Raekwon pointed out.

    You can’t read news today without trying to filter out this hate.

    jjbees

    February 10, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    • Nevertheless, the reporter couldn’t find anything really damning. The worse they could find is that Bannon was only an “above average” officer and not the best officer in the Navy, and that he thought he was better than the enlisted men (which he was as demonstrated by his ability to get into Harvard).

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 10, 2017 at 10:25 pm

      • I thought the snark about the enlisted men was reaching. Officers are not supposed to fraternize with enlisted men. If they do they lose respect. Enlisted men may grumble about this but they know it’s true, and won’t respect an officer who tries to be too matey.

        With that caveat, the article increased my respect for Bannon. I didn’t realize he had so much real world experience. I thought he was a Hollywood/Breitbart lightweight.

        That alcoholic weight gain tho. Delicate Irish looks need more upkeep than other ethnicities. This is an HBD blog after all. We speak truth.

        gothamette

        February 11, 2017 at 9:17 am

      • “Officers are not supposed to fraternize with enlisted men. If they do they lose respect.”

        An important lesson that you should carry to corporate America. Don’t fraternize with people of lesser positions than you.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 11, 2017 at 10:22 am

      • An important lesson that you should carry to corporate America. Don’t fraternize with people of lesser positions than you.

        Trump says he’s always gotten along better with construction workers and cab drivers than his peers.

        snorlaxwp

        February 11, 2017 at 4:43 pm

      • He had the good fortune of owning his own business so he could do whatever he wants. But how the elites HATE HATE HATE Trump for being low class.

        Most people aren’t in a position to do stuff that will cause the elites to disdain them, not if they want to get ahead.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 11, 2017 at 4:44 pm

      • “Getting along with” is not fraternizing.

        Here’s an article about Miller to go along with the Bannon:

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stephen-miller-a-key-engineer-for-trumps-america-first-agenda/2017/02/11/a70cb3f0-e809-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?utm_term=.fd5d6bc864d8

        It’s gothamette-approved. I find nothing objectionable in it. In fact, some of the wording might be considered slyly MAGA:

        ” By his late 20s, Miller was a key aide to then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), helping to torpedo a long-sought goal of immigrant advocacy groups to put millions of unauthorized Hispanic immigrants on a path to citizenship.”

        Wow! The writer admits some key facts that we patriots have been screaming about in that sentence.

        gothamette

        February 11, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      • Lion,

        I warned you about this. You scoffed.

        https://nypost.com/2017/02/11/how-obama-is-scheming-to-sabotage-trumps-presidency

        “In what’s shaping up to be a highly unusual post-presidency, Obama isn’t just staying behind in Washington. He’s working behind the scenes to set up what will effectively be a shadow government to not only protect his threatened legacy, but to sabotage the incoming administration and its popular “America First” agenda.”

        I said this months ago. You said Obama was staying in town because he & Michelle are “high investment parents” & they didn’t want to interrupt Sasha’s schooling. NOPE.

        Actually, in a way it’s good. The enemy is in the open, and if he polarizes the electorate further, should we really care?

        gothamette

        February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm

  5. quote from DKos about today’s ICE raids: “Who’s gonna clean your homes? Or do your gardening? Or take care of your grampa? Or raise your kids? Or get you your fruits and vegetables? It will be chaos if that crazy old fart isn’t impeached soon. That’s just for service jobs.”

    This commenter then proceeds to threaten to move to Canada.

    Otis the Sweaty

    February 10, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    • It’s true that without illegals, homeowners will need lower-maintenance styles of landscaping.

      Labor-intensive fruits and vegetables will be imported from Mexico. I don’t care if a few farmers go out of business; such farmers are a net burden upon the U.S. economy because of their need for illegal labor and not a net benefit.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 10, 2017 at 11:22 pm

      • Farmers maybe wouldn’t go out of business, just grow different crops or use newer techniques, just like stores are using more automation in response to higher price of labor.

        Gozo

        February 10, 2017 at 11:33 pm

      • I don’t care if a few farmers go out of business; such farmers are a net burden upon the U.S. economy because of their need for illegal labor and not a net benefit.

        Why not hired temp migrant Americans, that is high school and college kids from across America.

        Maybe they could take of a year or just summers and get paid and see America.

        Be innovative.

        Rifleman

        February 11, 2017 at 12:28 am

      • College kids aren’t going to pick fruit for below-minimum wage, and the jobs are in the boondocks where the people don’t live. Nah, the farms will definitely relocate to Mexico, and it’s NOT a big deal.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 11, 2017 at 12:31 am

      • The farms won’t relocate, we will just import produce that is currently grown in the US. Fine, and more economically efficient, but it would be stupid to tax Mexican imports if that is the plan. We should also stop subsidizing water for California farmers bringing in illegal labor. Without illegal labor and free water a lot of farms in California probably make no economic sense.

        Peter Akuleyev

        February 11, 2017 at 4:22 am

      • To the liking of many of your commenters, there will be more status gloating in the coming years, if SWPLs are still blowing steam to separate themselves from the proles. And SWPLs in America are basically proles with money with a dash of class.

        There will be more artisanal food, not just with the organic, gluten free labeling, but made in the usa.

        99 cents bag of Potato Chips will be imported from 3rd world turd holes.

        And speaking of markets and SWPL food, someone here asked how would Middle Eastern immigrants add value to America, when compared let’s say to East Asian immigrants.

        The Turkish and Syrian grocers are a lot better than the Korean ones in NYC.

        If real estate weren’t so expensive in NYC, they would be hiring pretty-exotic women from the Middle East, Central Asia and White people, unlike Koreans who only have a handful of unhelpful Hispanic workers and their family members.

        JS

        February 11, 2017 at 10:24 am

      • The DKos commenter is right, this would be a financial disaster for American families. Instead of being $2.50 per pound on sale, strawberries would cost $3.00. Maybe even $3.50! Why should wealthier consumers have to suffer, just so that farm workers can luxuriate in a fair wage? (also labor laws, OSHA protections, workmans comp, etc.).

        Trumpenfuerher and his lackeys have no sense of decency. At least compared to Democratic Party leaders and SJW journalists.

        amac78

        February 11, 2017 at 11:30 am

      • Seems to me the most sensible policy was what we had during the Eisenhower era: a guest worker program with Operation Wetback as needed. That couldn’t work today though, because as we saw when Bush 43 proposed a “guest worker” plan, it was widely seen for what it was, a sneaky way around caps on legal immigration that the establishment didn’t like. There was no way anyone who might come in as a guest worker was going to be sent home, ever, and the public knew it.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        February 11, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      • In NZ there is a seasonal worker arrangement with various Pacific Island countries to come in and pick fruit for a few months each year. It seems to work reasonably well.

        Julian

        February 12, 2017 at 1:17 am

    • What if people took care of their own grandpa, or raised their own kids?

      jjbees

      February 11, 2017 at 8:40 am

      • LOL. We’ve forgotten how to do that. It takes years of training, dedication and teamwork to master those arts.

        Srsly, when paid labor was mostly white, well-paid and unionized, what is now the alt-right were libertarians. Now that labor is non-white and cheap, they’ve discovered the dignity of labor and unions.

        gothamette

        February 11, 2017 at 9:27 am

      • That would mean a return to the bad old days like the 1950s, when Dad was the breadwinner and Mom ran the household and looked after the kids. Unacceptable.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        February 11, 2017 at 1:39 pm

      • That probably won’t happen. Women entering the workforce basically doubled the labor supply so that means wages got cut in half (the actual effects were not quite so linear, but you get the point).

        Basically corporate America found a way to force women into the GDP calculation (previously their services could be tallied by calculating the average cost of child care and Mexican nannies/cleaning ladies). This forced the two parent household to become the norm because you know get two for the price of one (insidious).

        Since when a woman cleans her own home and takes care of her own kids, it is a labor of love, the end result is obviously superior both in quality and satisfaction. What we have now is a dystopian cluster fuck.

        I can see the need for the top 15% of women to enter the professional workforce because of IQ’s requiring self actualization work, but can’t they all just be mothers and mathematicians on the side like many high IQ women were in the 1800’s.

        We need to prioritize what is good for society over individuals’ childlike needs.

        Maybe it is time to revoke the concept of corporate charter or at least more heavily restrict it and force everyone into descaled partnerships. A corporate charter should be like a government allowed monopoly, i.e. only done if it is the only natural solution to a massive scale problem.

        Society has become too efficient and it no longer benefits people from a utilitarian standpoint. Besides, do we really need Walmart style distribution systems? Walmart can sell their logistics services to mom and pop shops similar to how McDonalds franchises out their restaurants.

        Amazon is a great idea because they allow different sellers to come together in a global marketplace and provide a platform. Companies like Walmart are redundant now.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        February 12, 2017 at 12:53 am

      • @Paul Ryan’s Sickly Old Lap Dog

        I can see the need for the top 15% of women to enter the professional workforce because of IQ’s requiring self actualization work, but can’t they all just be mothers and mathematicians on the side like many high IQ women were in the 1800’s.

        Despite Hidden Figures, the women who worked for NASA weren’t mathematicians per se. Rather they literally computed the calculations needed by the engineers.

        ScarletNumber

        February 12, 2017 at 11:05 am

  6. The Post article is actually more fair than I’d have been; I probably wouldn’t have been able to resist drawing a parallel between the failed hostage rescue and the semi-failed Yemen raid.

    snorlaxwp

    February 10, 2017 at 11:31 pm

  7. Can I get a front page link to my article?

    My blog will be another feather in the hat of your blogging career –

    https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/

    Metternich, Volume III page 335
    September 9, 1819. — I never come to Prague without thinking I hear midnight strike. Six years ago, at that hour, I dipped my pen to declare war with the man of the century — the Man of St. Helena — to kindle the beacon which was the signal for 100,000 men of the allied troops to cross the frontier.

    It was fortunate Napoleon turned out to be a White Tsar who disguised himself as a Red Tsar until his position was secure enough to overthrow the Directorate.

    Metternich, Volume I page 281
    In order to judge of this extraordinary man, we must follow him upon the grand theatre for which he was born. Fortune had no doubt done much for Napoleon; but by the force of his character, the activity and lucidity of his mind, and by his genius for the great combinations of military science, he had risen to the level of the position which she had destined for him. Having but one passion, that of power, he never lost either his time or his means on those objects which might have diverted him from his aim. Master of himself, he soon became master of men and events. In whatever time he had appeared he would have played a prominent part. But the epoch when he first entered on his career was particularly fitted to facilitate his elevation. Surrounded by individuals who, in the midst of a world in ruins, walked at random without any fixed guidance, given up to all kinds of ambition and greed, he alone was able to form a plan, hold it fast, and conduct it to its conclusion. It was in the course of the second campaign in Italy that he conceived the one which was to carry him to the summit of power. ‘ When I was young,’ he said to me ; ‘ I was revolutionary from ignorance and ambition. At the age of reason, I have followed its counsels and my own instinct, and I crushed the Revolution.’

    There would be no such luck with future Red Tsars. How many millions of lives might have been saved if only Stalin had declared himself Tsar after a surprise “discovery” of extant Romanov ancestry in his family tree? Sadly, that Red Tsar remained Red.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    February 11, 2017 at 9:53 am


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