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How can proles afford to take their kids to Disney World?

One day admission for a family of four: $484. And that doesn’t include parking. Or food. Or whatever else you have to pay extra for.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 12, 2017 at 9:34 am

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  1. High proles aren’t necessary poor. A union electrician and his nurse wife can easily pull in $150,000. They just spend it all..usually on pontoon boats, monster trucks and vacations to Disney World.

    B.T.D.T.

    February 12, 2017 at 9:42 am

    • A union electrician and his nurse wife can easily pull in $150,000. They just spend it all..usually on pontoon boats, monster trucks and vacations to Disney World.

      Cops & firewhiners too.

      When I was 12 y/o, my family of five drove from MA to FL during a March break from school and spent a week in FL and one day at Disney World; I guess it was fun for a 12 y/o. But for the past 25 years, I’ve lived w/i 150 miles of Disney World and, aside from one bar-hopping night ten years ago at Pleasure Island (no admission fee; since closed) haven’t been back and never will.

      E. Rekshun

      February 12, 2017 at 5:34 pm

      • You grow out of amusement parks pretty fast, even though they have advanced thrill rides now to attract older people. I remember as a kid I thought they were the greatest thing ever but some time in my teenage years they just stopped being very exciting. Lots of walking around in the sun and waiting in lines for rides that aren’t as thrilling anymore. It’s very anticlimactic.

        Tom

        February 12, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    • Most Americans are high proles.

      The lowest quality of life in the western world, the only country in the 1st world with 40+ hr workweek, and imbeciles abound….America is a nation of high proles.

      JS

      February 13, 2017 at 8:16 pm

      • and yet … Americans like me can brag about the most beautiful landscapes in the world, the happiest and most productive chefs, literally thousands of campuses filled with beautiful young women who will one day be loving Christian and Jewish mothers, the best literature of the last 100 years – and, by far, the most humane and inspired cinema and the best preserved churches and synagogues of the contemporary world, and the most acute and careful scientists, at least among the non-SJW elite… sure we are plagued by SJWs but who isn’t these days —- lots of us have worked to make America a great country, and we will keep on working for that — well then, señor JS, there is Singapore, if you would like to emigrate, my young friend, they have a couple of good restaurants and good sunsets there – as long as you are allowed in that part of town by the powers that be, and can afford it. If you leave, enjoy your little apartment in Singapore! I have heard it is easy to get copyright-free stuff from America there, so if you get homesick there is always that ….

        anonymous reply to JS

        February 14, 2017 at 1:48 am

      • Proles had their chances to take back America for themselves. They f*cked themselves over and now it’s too late.

        Frivolous consumerism completely destroyed the morale of America’s proletariate.

        JS

        February 14, 2017 at 6:21 pm

  2. Also, it is not just proles that go to Disney World. I know a lot of upper middle class doctors, attorneys and business owners that take their kids there. It is still a slice of Americana and a tradition that most can identify with and enjoy. The difference is that proles will go back to Disney World again and again, instead of taking their kids to other more enriching destinations later on.

    B.T.D.T.

    February 12, 2017 at 9:46 am

    • Hipsters with money are also weirdly into this. I know a DJ and graphic designer who went to Disneyland in LA constantly.

      Dain

      February 12, 2017 at 12:55 pm

      • Hipsters enjoy it ironically. At least that’s what they tell themselves.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 12, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      • Isn’t Disneyland in LA more of a regular amusement park? While Disneyworld is a big resort that takes lots of time and money to visit?

        Tom

        February 12, 2017 at 6:25 pm

      • Anything situated in Florida is prole. Furthermore, many proles from the east have never visited California.

        It’s very prole not to have traveled to California — A de-facto itinerary for SWPLs.

        JS

        February 12, 2017 at 8:32 pm

      • Disneyland is in Orange County and a bit smaller and cheaper than Disney World, but still the biggest and most expensive amusement park in California.

        I have encountered adults who go to DL without children. They were not hipsters.

        Lot

        February 12, 2017 at 8:56 pm

      • I enjoy nothing ironically. Disneyland would be a bad deal for me I would much rather spend a hundred bucks on one of the cool nearby golf courses. Also I abhor the idea of people being paid to spend the day wearing a costume. It is not civilized.

        howitzer daniel

        February 14, 2017 at 1:51 am

      • Especially considering how HOT it must be under that costume in the summer.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 14, 2017 at 7:26 am

      • I went to Disneyland with my girlfriend as adults a number of years ago. We were in the US and LA for the holidays and had no better invitations for New Year’s Eve.

        It actually vastly exceeded my expectations.

        The lights, the fireworks, the meticulous landscaping, the cheerful fun & phony architecture that deliciously treaded the line between outlandish and classily restrained…

        Many of the US cities I’ve visited and in which I’ve resided (especially on the west coast) have been cesspools of trash, bums, panhandlers and other assorted junkie zombies. If only the rest of America was clean, orderly and didn’t put up with the asocials and other disruptors of civilization, then it would be more like Disneyland. If we really want to make America great again, we might use the rules of strict order that govern Disneyland as a blueprint.

        A few years ago I visited somebody in a planned gated community in Orange County. He thought I was being sarcastic or making fun of it in how much I praised it. Why can’t we have nice things like that as a civilization? Why can’t we keep the rest of our cities tidy and orderly like that? These should be the most fundamental tasks of our civic institutions. Instead of delivering public order, they’ve given up on those things and gone off on other extravagant crusades.

        It’s not that “poor people” ruin things. My observation is that it’s usually the asocial and irresponsible behavior that doom so many to poverty that make our communities disgusting hells.

        Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

        February 14, 2017 at 3:46 pm

  3. Whoa.

    rivelino

    February 12, 2017 at 9:48 am

  4. A. It’s not just proles, as people are already pointing out*
    B. Lots of Americans carry ridiculous amounts of credit card debt

    *If you want to see proles, try Sesame Place in NJ. I have never seen so many parents exposing so much pasty white flesh covered in tattoos

    Peter Akuleyev

    February 12, 2017 at 10:37 am

    • OBJECTION: Sesame Place is in PA

      ScarletNumber

      February 12, 2017 at 10:57 am

      • Yes, of course. Near Trenton, but in PA.

        Peter Akuleyev

        February 12, 2017 at 11:31 am

  5. Tax refund

    Camlost

    February 12, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    • Tax refund

      And marginally employed NAMs use their EITC-inflated income tax refund to buy overpriced 20-year old cars from shady corner lot car dealers. The car will be junked and towed away before June.

      E. Rekshun

      February 13, 2017 at 4:45 am

  6. How can Hispanics afford Quinceañera, how can Jews afford bar-mitzvas and weddings, how can you afford to live in Manhattan? This America, mate. The land of opportunity for the hardworking, the ambitiois, the smart. In America prole is not synonymous with low income. How many times I have to repeat it already? My daughter just came from Florida after a long weekend with her husband and two kids. The tab was $5,000, ask me if she cares. Neither one has a useless college education, by the way. I think Disney is very stupid and I’d never seen it, but what’s there to afford already? Obviously, if you are a barrista at DD it’s tough, but you are supposed to advance in life, not get stuck at a minimum wage. It’s an evolutionary struggle and all these proles are doing is providing for their kids what they think is important, had they thought that Latin or ballet were important, they kids would have been doing that. My daughter could affortd the most elite school for her kids, but she sends to the main stream prole institution(private obviously), why? Because she doesn’t want to loaded with all the homework and extracurriculum activites. She wants to relax after work. Proles’ lifestyle makes sense, you jusr have to get into their brain.

    Yakov

    February 12, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    • There’s a reason why proles are on their way out, the same way NAMs will be extinct, if elites choose their fate.

      And it sounds like you’re lost. Keep spouting the idea that a HVAC technician gets to live next to an investment banker or a trust fund kid, if he works hard enough.

      JS

      February 13, 2017 at 12:45 pm

      • Mate, who cares to live next to these people? They are phonies. You think a guy like me, who puts together a steam boiler cares about a trust fund sissy or an investment banker? Who is a real person you think: a plumber or these useless characters? Read ‘The Sea Wolf’ already, uff! What you think is better for an 18 year old kid’s character development: to have a trust fund or to have a trade? How many trust fund kids are gay compared to plumbers? Ever thought about it? Money isn’t everything.

        Yakov

        February 14, 2017 at 2:12 am

      • Enough with this investment banker meme, there are so few of them and they are insignificant. Most people, even the rich ones make their money from building some type of business. In every city around the world there are rich areas with rich people, 90% of those cities don’t even have investment banking industry.

        Hashed

        February 16, 2017 at 3:44 am

  7. I live in southern California, which has lots of theme parks: Disneyland, Knott’s Berry Farm, Magic Mountain, Sea World, you name it.

    Back in the late 80s, it was common knowledge that Magic Mountain had a problem with gangs. The commonly help public opinion back then was that Magic Mountain’s lower admission cost relative to Disneyland was a contributor to the problem. Even back then, Disneyland was expensive, which helped keep the riff raff out, or so the thinking went.*

    It also keeps poor Hispanics out, but you seldom hear a peep about Disney’s “racist” admission price, not from the media, not from the ethnic pressure groups. Why is that? My guess is that Disney is seen as embracing the right (i.e. liberal) values, so the SJWs don’t cause trouble; I am sure it is also because Disney executives are major contributors to the Democratic party and liberal causes, so they’re essentially paying protection money. Not to mention the fact that Disney is a major employer in the area, and seldom if ever loses out on something they want, whether from the city of Anaheim or anywhere else around here.

    * Disneyland also has a zero tolerance policy. They will throw you out of the park, no questions asked, if you violate any of their rules. And you will not get a refund.

    Sgt. Joe Friday

    February 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    • “It also keeps poor Hispanics out, but you seldom hear a peep about Disney’s “racist” admission price”

      I don’t know about Disneyland, but millions of Latin Americans fly up to Orlando. They somehow afford it.

      KM32

      February 12, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      • I suspect that the Latin Americans you see at the Orlando park are middle class families from Mexico and points south that have money, or Cuban Americans from Miami. Middle class people have it pretty good in places like Mexico and they tend to stay put. Anyway, here in southern California, Hispanics are mostly poor to upper lower class.

        I am reminded of a time 20 years ago when I was vacationing in Puerto Vallarta with the first Mrs. Friday. I noticed something that I pointed out to her: that Mexicans who speak English tend to stay in Mexico, where they can get good-paying jobs in international business or the hospitality industry. The ones who don’t speak English are the ones we end up getting.

        Sgt. Joe Friday

        February 12, 2017 at 6:05 pm

      • I was at Disney World with my kids and their cousins this year. I head a lot of visitors speaking Spanish. There seemed to be more Spanish speakers than visitors from Asia, but there were many of the latter as well.

        Overall, I enjoyed the visit much more than I thought I would. The shows especially were surprisingly good.

        steve@steve.com

        February 12, 2017 at 6:26 pm

      • ,I was at Disney World with my kids and their cousins this year. I head a lot of visitors speaking Spanish. There seemed to be more Spanish speakers than visitors from Asia, but there were many of the latter as well.

        Overall, I enjoyed the visit much more than I thought I would. The shows especially were surprisingly good

        Orlando has a large Puerto Rican population, and I think FL residents pay a lower price. Heavily Hispanic Miami is a mere 4 hours away. And FL is a big tourist hotspot for well-to-do Latin American families, which I saw a lot of at Disney.

        The prices do not keep the “poor Hispanics” out.

        markus

        February 13, 2017 at 12:13 am

      • Disney in Florida would lose money if they don’t lower their admission prices. They rely on bulk admissions from Hispanics to make up for the high prices they cannot set.

        JS

        February 13, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    • I think the price difference can be explained by the fact the Disney is drawing visitors on a national and international basis while the other theme parks cater more to locals.

      anon

      February 12, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    • I also live in southern California (born and raised), but I remember being shocked a decade ago at Disneyland’s seeming surge in popularity among 20-something females. I was equally shocked at the price of a ticket. I remember in the 90s Disney heavily promoted $22 admission for California residents. Now it’s a hundred bucks.

      This LAT article looks at pricing history: http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-are-disneyland-tickets-inflation-20151006-column.html

      In 1990 they say a general admission ticket cost $27.50. By 2005 it was $56.

      Yes, Magic Mountain always had the stink of “gangbangers,” and my mother would make sure I — a nerdy little white boy — didn’t wear blue or red when going on class trips. I still don’t understand why any non-parents between 13 and 40 would choose to go to Disneyland rather than Magic Mountain.

      Then again, I never would’ve suspected you could make a multi-billion dollar movie franchise based on a shitty theme park ride with your starring actor playing a gay fuckin’ pirate.

      Vince

      February 12, 2017 at 7:02 pm

      • People love old fashioned pirates, but there were not any high spec pirate movies until Disney stepped in.

        Lot

        February 12, 2017 at 9:01 pm

  8. This was a problem that was bothering me two months ago. Many of my colleagues at work think it is the best thing since sliced bread. The CFO likes to go, but he is paid several million. I just think people don’t save. I was in a rotational program and worked in internal audit for a period, so I audited payroll at one point. I noticed that hardly any of the employees maxed out their 401k contributions even though over half made six figures in our flyover state. How do people rationalize sports tickets? People love TV. When Nozick’s Experience Machine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experience_machine) reaches the market, it will go flying off the shelves of Costco and the racks of Amazon. I think VR is a much bigger threat than genetic technologies. Disney has long been on the vanguard of the hyperreal. Imagine how much junk their wil be to spend money on in the future even if ultra hi-def flatscreens are forty bucks on sale. Religion may seem like a delusion, but at least it can help you save money and ironically stay grounded.

    vrimvrimvrim

    February 12, 2017 at 1:32 pm

  9. “Hipsters enjoy it ironically. At least that’s what they tell themselves.”

    Ha, yes. They love it and they know it. I don’t see them “ironically” choosing to live in Stockton at any cost.

    Dain

    February 12, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    • From the Onion:

      *Ironic Porn Purchase Leads To Unironic Ejaculation*

      WINNETKA, IL—A local man’s ironic purchase of a humorously titled hardcore-porn video Saturday led to a sincere, earnest ejaculation devoid of any irony whatsoever.

      Gilbert Ratchet

      February 12, 2017 at 5:36 pm

  10. I went three years ago when it only cost $400 for a family of four. I will never do this again, but it did not seem that such a price was keeping people away. The place was packed! Even though the temperature was boiling. I thought they could probably increase their price and make even more money – and lo and behold, they have.

    As other commenters have said, “prole” is a matter of taste, not money. There are always credit cards to charge up, and proles will famously blow what resources they have on luxury items that they imagine confer prestige on themselves. For instance, one of my kid’s prole friends at school got the latest video game system for Christmas, but her mother didn’t think she could afford to pay $10 for the school museum trip.

    Gilbert Ratchet

    February 12, 2017 at 4:05 pm

  11. Nothing beats Chuck E. Cheese’s. $10 will make your kid happy, guaranteed. You only need to make one trip to Disney World or Land.

    My Two Cents

    February 12, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    • Chuck E Cheese will make a kid happy, but $10 will not last him very long.

      Lot

      February 12, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    • Chuck E. Cheese’s. $10 will make your kid happy

      Or bloody! Nearly every weekend, there’s a riot among black adults at one of their kids’ Chuck E. Cheese birthday parties.

      E. Rekshun

      February 13, 2017 at 4:51 am

    • Ah, Chuck E Cheese…

      Crappy Pizza and Carbonated Liquid Diabetes: $35
      100 Video Game Tokens: $25
      Entertainment Value of Obligatory NAM Brawl: Priceless!

      Tarl

      February 14, 2017 at 4:07 pm

  12. I went last year with two kids after having been away for a couple decades. It was waaayyyy more crowded than it had been when I was a kid. I saw: 1) white upper middle class professionals with kids like myself, 2) Asians/Indians with kids and 3) TONS of grossly obese people.

    U

    February 12, 2017 at 6:55 pm

  13. From what I’ve seen, for working class people that don’t own homes, it’s basically paid for with money from income tax refunds, For others, it comes from grandparents, and I suspect in most cases, it’s subsidized by liberal credit lending.

    FWIW, my brother and I never went to Disney, but my parents spent their money on sending us to Catholic school. When I decided to apply for a position at my employer’s travel agency, the supervisor at the unit was shocked that I had never gone to Disney, so it definitely comes across as the kind of thing that *everybody* does.

    David Alexander

    February 12, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    • I sincerely hope that, even if you think you learned nothing worthwhile at Catholic school, you actually did.
      God loves us the way we are – after all, he made us – but he loves us too much to let us stay that way – we are, after all, His creation. That is not nothing! It is a fact – an extremely valuable fact! God is very proud of everybody who does something with however little he or she has been given. And all of us have been given little – one learns that after living many years in this world. Hence, God loves us all, and wants us to make him proud of us! Even those of us like me who write apparently sad little mostly unread comments on the internet to performance artists…well not so sad, if you see what I mean …. how many years have you been doing this dude? Make your grandparents proud!!!!

      howitzer daniel

      February 14, 2017 at 2:01 am

  14. I went to Disneyworld once, and never again. Too saccharine. Too many unsightly fat families. I can go on and on.
    What did surprise me though was the relatively high number of hipsters; I always thought they eschew these type of things.

    markus

    February 13, 2017 at 12:09 am

  15. Pricing to keep out the “riff-raff” is most likely culprit. I grew up near Yankee Stadium and remember 50 cent bleacher seats in the early 60s. Even in the mid-90s, I could still come in from NJ for a game at $12-15 for a nosebleed seat. In 2010 I took my son and a visiting relative to the new stadium (where I hadn’t been yet) and got sticker shock at $60 for the very cheapest seat. Cross it off my bucket list, but never again.

    Back in the 70s and following, Yankee baseball was still affordable for south Bronx Puerto Rican and black kids to come to the game to see their beloved Willie Randolph, Don Mattingly, Luis Tiant. Clearly the management doesn’t want them around any more.

    sestamibi

    February 13, 2017 at 1:22 am

    • Luis Tiant.

      Red Sox fan here. I forgot that Luis Tiant briefly played for the Yankees after several stellar seasons with the Red Sox.

      In the mid-70s, one could get $2 bleacher seats at Fenway Park. Every summer the neighborhood playgrounds would bus all the kids to a couple of games for about $2 including lunch. Back then nearly every neighborhood had a playground with organized adult-led activities for kids every day, all day, all summer. Playgrounds played each other two or three times each week in organized baseball games.

      E. Rekshun

      February 13, 2017 at 11:08 am

  16. My sister has a phd in philosophy and her husband is a computer scientist but they are prole : never reading a book, no theater, no museum, no opera, no ballet, only big usa movie productions, llow average neighboorgood. Each time they come to Paris they go to parks : Asterix ane Disney. I have never been there. The reason is exactly the one give by Yacov : low energy and great happyness about their way of life. Only exception, they spare a lot of money. Because in France, you re happy when you have 50 times what you spend in a year in capital , because it means you dont need working anymore (not counting that lots of taxes is another compulsory sparing scheme).

    Bruno from Paris

    February 13, 2017 at 2:25 am

    • Interesting. I understand that a Philosophy PhD is pretty rigorous and must require a lot of reading. A couple of family members have rigorous advanced degrees and don’t do any leisure reading; they’ve said that they were required to do so much reading in grad school that they no longer have the interest or attention span to read for leisure anymore.

      E. Rekshun

      February 13, 2017 at 11:12 am

      • The reality is that smart people enjoy writing and stupid enjoy reading. It is hard to watch TV and read most of the stuff that is written. Philosophy PhD’s tend to be almost as smart as Physics PhD’s and there is nothing smarter than that. Listening to classical music of my preference gets me much more excitement than even reading this blog. Actually, listening to Hahn – Mozart – Violin Concerto No.3 right now.

        My Two Cents

        February 13, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    • I grew up around physicians and plenty of them never read a single non-work-related book. Are they prole? Not really. Drive expensive cars, live in high-end neighborhoods, send kids to private schools. Smart but lacking in intellectual interests. And that’s fine.

      Tarl

      February 14, 2017 at 4:09 pm

  17. Libertyland was an amusement park near Memphis that operated from 1976 until 2005, when it went bankrupt. Elvis Presley loved it, especially the roller coaster, Zippin Pippin, which is the largest wooden roller coaster in the US. Of course, he couldn’t go there diring regular park hours without being mobbed, so he would rent the entire park for himself and his friends from closing time until dawn. Just Elvis and his buddies enjoying the rides, especially Zippin Pippin, which he would ride continuously.

    After Libertyland went belly up, Mr. Pippin relocated to the Bay Beach amusement park in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where you can now ride him. Prole enough?

    Black Death

    February 13, 2017 at 9:11 am

  18. The place is full of upper class Brazilians. The Upper Class in Latin America have the same tastes in vacations as proles in the developed world. The USA is becoming a prole nation because proles and Hispanics are the only people having kids. So prole vacation companies will do very well in the future, which is why I am investing in Disneyland and cruise ship stocks.

    DataExplorer

    February 13, 2017 at 11:58 am

    • I’ve said it before, but it always needs repeating, upper class white Americans really need to start having large families again for the good of the country.

      Calogero

      February 13, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      • Upper class white Americans are imbued with the whole “we must live in a good neighborhood and send our kids to expensive universities” ethos. They would be aghast if little Ava said she wanted to be a housewife or little Henry said he wanted to be a plumber. This practically rules out big families. I don’t know how you can change that.

        Tarl

        February 14, 2017 at 4:12 pm

  19. Little girls squeal with joy at the movie princesses and other characters. Those movies are burned into their brains. I can’t think of any reason to go other than to make a six year old girl happy.

    Do boys even like it? I would have thought not. Lots of standing in line and being told what to do.

    bobbybobbob

    February 13, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    • Eh they like the Star Wars crap.

      Tarl

      February 14, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    • I can think of other ways to make 6 year old girls happy.

      ScarletNumber

      February 14, 2017 at 9:28 pm

  20. Uncle Walt’s dream is circling the drain. Those high ticket prices are what you would expect from Sports Arenas. Disneyland and Disney World were always made for families and the rides and themes show it. If they try to go “elite” and high end, they’ll go Chapter 11 or even Chapter 13. Hipsters have fewer kids than anyone except homosexuals and Catholic clergy. Who is gonna buy the Princess Merchandise when childless cheese scarfing wine guzzling hipsters are the whole crowd? Space Mountain and Teacup Rides are just not upscale enough for these kind of ticket prices. This is just entrance fees too. Those Disney hotels are being priced like beachfront Carribean Hotels. That Mouse must have swamp fever.

    Joshua Sinistar

    February 17, 2017 at 11:41 pm


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