Lion of the Blogosphere

Star Trek Voyager sucks! I can’t take any more!

I watched the first five episodes. This awful. Every single episode is about the female Captain Janeway doing something incredibly stupid for a moral reason that doesn’t make any sense.

I think they were trying to atone for Captain Kirk being an alpha male who got stuff done.

I quit!

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the best of the Star Trek sequels. The only one I could watch in its entirety.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

February 17, 2017 at 11:03 pm

Posted in Television

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  1. The premise for them getting stuck in that quadrant in the first place is retarded. They couldn’t rig a time-bomb and leave?

    Dave Pinsen

    February 17, 2017 at 11:06 pm

  2. It gets better after Seven of Nine joins and they also give the holographic doctor more air time. But it still sucks and Janeway’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard. plus Chakotay sucks and the crappy black Vulcan sucks and Neelix super sucks.

    JimboHarambe

    February 17, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    • I liked Neelix, especially in episode 5.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 18, 2017 at 12:50 am

      • Actually that alien chef gives even me the willies. His cuisine belongs on the Addams Family. All of you who love that crazy instamatic Food a Rack a Cycle that makes hot tea for Picard must be wincing in pain at the thought they need to feed food into it and so they get a crazy ethnic food Addams Family Cookbook guy to feed them. It certainly craps all over your fantasies of transmutation from the wonderful fabricators doesn’t it? Shouldn’t surprise you to much though. For all the wonderful food choice that get served on the Original Series to guests, the crew eat shit that looks like vitamin enriched Play Doh.

        Joshua Sinistar

        February 18, 2017 at 1:36 am

      • I liked Neelix, especially in episode 5.

        Neelix was stupid and hideous to look at.

        I doubt you would be happier with later Voyager episodes. I didn’t check out Voyager periodically until after DS9 ended, which was roughly the time season 4 of Voyager was on. Everything I watched I found to be very difficult to sit through.

        Which VOY episode did you think was the worst?

        The Undiscovered Jew

        February 18, 2017 at 6:41 pm

      • All five of the first five episodes are the worst.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 18, 2017 at 7:50 pm

      • All five of the first five episodes are the worst.

        I dare you to watch Threshold.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        February 18, 2017 at 8:22 pm

  3. FF to the Seven of Nine episodes. It gets better.

    Dave

    February 17, 2017 at 11:43 pm

  4. Its actually funny how autocratic and bitchy Janeway actually is. Captain Kirk may have been a loose cannon, but he held more meetings and took more advice than this crazy girl. She actually strands the ships in the Delta Quadrant by blowing up their only escape route. And then she gets her enemies to take command positions to bury the hatchet. Why they would go along with this is a mystery. She’s the one who caused them to be stranded too.
    The only reason this stinker kept running is because after the awful ratings and poor reviews, they drafted Jeri Ryan to play a Borg in the most skintight costume in Star Trek History. They must have sewn her into this thing. It almost looks like its painted on. Jeri’s breasts pop out like Elvira’s championship hooters, and that skintight “uniform” looks like it belongs on a stripper.
    Do your self a favor and skip to Jeri Ryan. Turn off the sound and enjoy the skintight action of Jeri Ryan’s Borg Boner Parade. Your libido and girlfriend will thank you. 7 of 9 is interstellar homeopathic sci-fi Viagra. It sounds dirty too.

    Joshua Sinistar

    February 18, 2017 at 12:01 am

    • What’s really amazing is that she’s more than eye candy, she is one of the only two VOY characters not painful to watch (the EMH Doctor being the other one).

      John Hunyadi

      February 18, 2017 at 8:25 am

      • How did people take 3 seasons of VOY before 7 was finally introduced?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        February 18, 2017 at 8:41 am

      • Actually she’s the ball-busting bitch men try to avoid. The original actress that backed out was a refined French actress who was classy and had a sublime and laid back performance. Kate Mulgrew before Voyager was best known for paying “Mrs. Columbo”. Columbo is of course the rumpled detective played by Peter Falk who practically stalks suspects until they are arrested for trying to kill him. All through that show he talks about his wife, the little woman who cooks and cleans and waits for him to come home. Needless to say, the feminist Kate Mulgrew plays is NOTHING like this and has a strong desire to be a detective like her husband. Kate Mulgrew has apparently got the acting chops to play every Feminist Stereotype that Hollywood cares to offer to the audience.

        Joshua Sinistar

        February 18, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      • How did people take 3 seasons of VOY before 7 was finally introduced?

        I say parts of it when it originally aired and never watched again.

        I did read through various reviews of the worst episodes like Threshold. Many of those reviews are hilarious.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        February 18, 2017 at 6:03 pm

  5. DS9 better than TNG? Come on now.

    Renault

    February 18, 2017 at 12:08 am

    • Absolutely. All of the main characters in DS9 are quite likable. In TNG, most of the characters I either can’t stand (Picard, Riker, Troi, Wesley, especially Wesley) or have moderate distaste for (Beverly Crusher, Data). I liked Guinan and Q. And Geordi was generally likable. But that’s it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 18, 2017 at 12:54 am

      • Q was definitely the best character. I liked Picard, Riker and Data, too. But I despised Troi, Guinan, Beverly and Wesley. Especially Wesley. He was such a little puss. And he’s a puss in real life, too.

        destructure

        February 18, 2017 at 2:02 am

  6. I watched the first five episodes. This awful. Every single episode is about the female Captain Janeway doing something incredibly stupid for a moral reason that doesn’t make any sense.

    That’s the whole crux of the series; they’re stuck in the Delta Quandrant because the captain did something stupid. That happens a lot.

    It doesn’t even get remotely better until Season 4 (when they brought in Seven of Nine). Indeed, Season 2 is quite a bit worse than Season 1.

    It’s tolerable if you stick only to certain “good” episodes. I’ll look through it and give you a list.

    JayMan

    February 18, 2017 at 12:44 am

    • It’s not just that she did something stupid because she made a mistake, but rather because of some moral preachiness.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 18, 2017 at 12:55 am

      • Yup. There’s a lot of that in Voyager.

        JayMan

        February 18, 2017 at 1:04 am

      • It’s not just that she did something stupid because she made a mistake, but rather because of some moral preachiness.

        If Voyager were on today they would say Janeway is a sexist parody of how women are unfit to command.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        February 18, 2017 at 6:00 pm

      • The Romulans between TOS and TNG illustrate that. Plenty of female Romulan commanders in TNG/DS9, but none of them did anything as silly as the commander in TOS’s “The Enterprise Incident.”

        JayMan

        February 20, 2017 at 1:52 pm

      • In the fifth season episode entitled “Night,” Janeway’s feelings of guilt for stranding Voyager in the Delta Quadrant are explored. It drives her to plan a suicide mission that will save both Voyager and an alien race that is being killed off by toxic waste.

        You might like the later episodes dealing with a holodeck program called “Captain Proton.”

        Stealth

        February 18, 2017 at 7:02 pm

  7. Jeri and her degenerate husband are the reason why Barry became president.

    Mayor of Space

    February 18, 2017 at 3:09 am

    • Obama was going to win that race anyway.

      Richard

      February 18, 2017 at 12:35 pm

  8. One of the most irritating things about the first season is that they really didn’t know how to play a female captain. Janeway almost cries in most episodes of the first season. Also, the characters they were really counting on never took off, Chakotay was probably intended to be the dashing adventurous First Officer and potential Janeway love interest. Instead the character was dull and never got any better over 7 seasons. Anyway the whole Maqui crew should have been locked in the brig for the duration, or dropped off on some planet if they wanted to avoid a de facto life sentence in the bowels of the space ship.

    Mike Street Station

    February 18, 2017 at 8:36 am

    • Robert Beltran hated playing Chakotay for just that reason.

      Stealth

      February 18, 2017 at 7:12 pm

  9. The greatest female leaders were born to the purple. Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great, etc. But let me not digress.

    The purpose of this comment is to brag on what a genuinely alpha male William Shatner is in real life. And he’s Jewish. I’m making up for all the Jew-mania on alt-right sites, so sue me.

    He went to Canada’s best uni, McGill (hear that JS?), got a degree in economics, and segued into acting as a business manager. Tyrone Guthrie, one of England’s great stage directors, said that he was one of the best young actors Guthrie ever saw and he saw many.

    After his first wife dumped him, he lived out of his truck. He bounced back and married a few more times. One of his ex’s ended up floating in a pool. This is Hollywood. He’s married now for the Nth time. I think he’s happy.

    Moneywise he’s had a few disaster. Remember Priceline? He had a lot of stock and when it took a nosedive he lost big time. I think he sold his stock before it bounced back. I did the same with Netflix and it hurts.

    I don’t know what his politics are but when Trump was elected he told all of his followers to calm the F down. He sounds pretty sane. Maybe it’s his economics training.

    Shatner is a cool guy.

    gothamette

    February 18, 2017 at 11:52 am

    • Shatner made about $20 million from his initial Priceline stock grant. Very poor timing in his sales, but still a lot.

      Lot

      February 18, 2017 at 5:50 pm

      • Didn’t know that. I thought he got hosed. $20M isn’t too shabby.

        gothamette

        February 18, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    • Yes, he is. I have always like William Shatner.

      Stealth

      February 18, 2017 at 7:08 pm

      • liked

        Stealth

        February 18, 2017 at 7:08 pm

      • Another sane Hollywood actor is James Woods. He’s on twitter. He supported Cruz but came around like a mensch when Trump got the nom.

        I think the word nowadays is “based.”

        Jon Voight is very pro-Trump but I get the feeling he’s a bit…out there. Good guy though. I saw him on W. 57th Street once.

        gothamette

        February 18, 2017 at 8:38 pm

  10. The season 4, 2-parter called “Year of Hell” is what the whole series should have been.

    Mr. Frosty

    February 18, 2017 at 11:54 am

    • I would rather take a nine hour standardized test than watch the “Year of Hell” episodes again.

      Stealth

      February 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

  11. what’s worse, Voyager or Deep Space Nine?

    Otis the Sweaty

    February 18, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    • Deep Space Nine is an enjoyable series. Voyager is awful. I thought that was clear in the post.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 18, 2017 at 1:07 pm

      • If you think the cast is bad, the premise is actually worse. They have no way of getting home, but we all know they probably will. They have to trade to get supplies. Its all barter. Apparently no one in the Delta Quadrant has any kind of standard currency, and the Voyager crew is like a traveling flea market that barters with everyone that doesn’t want to kill them. I’m not even sure why. Their fabricators should be able to make tons of diamonds and other shit you could sell for currency, but the socialism is strong here. They don’t fabricate anything they trade at all. They gather stuff and barter it like a band of space gypsies. No really.

        Joshua Sinistar

        February 18, 2017 at 3:14 pm

  12. If you thought Voyager was bad, you should definitely avoid Enterprise – it REALLY sucked.

    Stealth

    February 18, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    • I watched all four seasons of Enterprise and I remember enjoying it.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      February 18, 2017 at 7:52 pm

      • They had a few good episodes (I especially liked the Augments storyline), but before the fourth season, half of the episodes involved time travel, and I hate Star Trek time travel stories with a passion. Tits and ass were way over the top in this series, and I didn’t like Jolene Blalock as T’Pol. In Voyager, the producers obviously took advantage of Jerri Ryan’s physical assets, but there was far more to her character. T’Pol was sex appeal and nothing more – a Vulcan bimbo.

        Stealth

        February 18, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    • Enterprise was the retconn that destroyed the whole continuity. Some Trekkers don’t consider it canon and say its all a holodeck program run by Riker on the Next Generation. Star Trek has no real continuity anyway, but Enterprise flushes everything straight down the toilet. The Peaceful Vulcans aren’t peaceful. The Unknown Borg that the Federation never encountered until Q took the Enterprise D on an excursion for hostile unreasonable aliens, still manage to appear here. That whole Time Traveler storyline also makes no sense. They come from even farther in the future than Star Trek The Next Generation, but they have no idea what the Enterprise does. Yeah the Eugenics Wars and the whole WWIII with Lee Kwan thing destroyed records, but this is set at the beginning of the Federation and formation of Starfleet and everyone should be well known Historical Figures since all this is set AFTER WWIII.
      JJ Abrams pretty much ruined Star Trek and Star Wars, but Enterprise just shows how little these studios care about characters or continuity. Star Trek the Motion Picture showed all the Enterprises that came before. It was the Aircraft Carrier, Space Shuttle Prototype and some strange and weird wheel with a boom like a Klingon D-7 from the Franz Joseph designs. No Enterprise that looks like this was ever seen.
      Why anyone would want to see the cheap ships that didn’t have tractor beams or working transporters is in and of itself a mystery. That crack by Hot Vulcan Girl who can’t keep her uniform on that Vulcans can’t stand humans because they all smell, has got to be the low point here. Oh sure its all racist for Star Trek VI to say Klingons smell, but Vulcans hate humans because they smell is OK huh?
      Like other Trek sequels, the only really well written and interesting shows are from The Mirror Universe. That story arc of that ship from Tholian Web showing up and blasting everything in sight is probably the best episodes of this series. Sure these counterparts are supposed to be Evil, but they have the best lines and plots anyway. After seeing these lamebrains get blasted and knocked around by everyone, seeing their Mirror Universe counterparts kicking ass is just damn cool. How did Starfleet ever get off the ground when the Klingons already had D-7s and even the Vulcans were beating them?
      Yeah the Klingons had the D-7 already. They have used the EXACT SAME DESIGN FOR CENTURIES!

      Joshua Sinistar

      February 18, 2017 at 8:32 pm

      • I would love to have seen the old ships with no tractor beams. Enterprise just didn’t cut it.

        Stealth

        February 18, 2017 at 10:49 pm

      • Enterprise explores something tacit in the first series, that the Vulcans were originally overlords of Earth which judo’s them with the superior libertaranist political technology of the federation. Like the US vs. UK then the Euro Empires.

        Robert

        February 19, 2017 at 9:34 am

      • Enterprise was a good concept that was executed very poorly.

        JayMan

        February 20, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    • I have to agree, Enterprise sucked ass. I couldn’t watch it.

      JayMan

      February 20, 2017 at 1:55 pm

  13. Lion, I would just watch any suggested top 20 episodes of Voyager and forget the rest. it’s a very derided series but it does have its moments.

    Gurney Halleck

    February 18, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    • Good advice.

      Gunny Highway

      February 19, 2017 at 8:37 pm

  14. Here’s an extended interview with Ron Moore (started out writing for TNG; quit Voyager and eventually developed the reboot of Battlestar Galactica) explaining why Voyager didn’t work:
    http://www.lcarscom.net/rdm1000118.htm

    The short explanation: the show writers refused to accept the consequences of the show’s premise and just wanted more TNG with mediocre characters.

    Even my wife, who comes from the former Soviet Union and knows nothing of Star Trek culture, quickly noted that while she liked “the show with the bald guy, this one (voyager) is terrible.”

    Milestone D

    February 19, 2017 at 8:00 am

  15. Sorry to read this, Lion. I liked Voyager and it pioneered something common on TV today, a series of long story arcs right from the beginning.

    It may help to realize it’s supposed to be clunky. Voyager is not supposed to be in Deep Space and neither Janeway nor the mixed crew are supposed to be prepared. The situation is hopeless even at best but they gallantly carry on.

    Robert

    February 19, 2017 at 9:38 am


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