Lion of the Blogosphere

Did Obama tap Trump’s phones before election?

It could be that Trump discovered this because he now controls the government.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

March 4, 2017 at 9:10 am

Posted in Politics

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  1. McCarthyism?

    Also, he misspells “tap” in this tweet:

    ScarletNumber

    March 4, 2017 at 9:16 am

    • It’s suasion. Trump is associating Obama with McCarthy and Nixon, and everyone knows they were evil horrible people.

      The occasional misspelling or typo is effective, too: it makes his enemies look petty. Most people don’t notice or don’t care.

      hard9bf

      March 4, 2017 at 9:40 am

      • “Trump is associating Obama with McCarthy and Nixon, and everyone knows they were evil horrible people.”

        Except Ann Coulter.

        Vince

        March 5, 2017 at 1:51 am

    • He does that on purpose. Reporters and comedians love to jump on mistakes like that, they can’t help themselves.

      Look at Alex Jones and Hillary opening the jar of pickles. He purposely said “pickel can” instead of jar so that Jimmy Kimmel would run the clip of him talking and respond.

      Thagomizer

      March 4, 2017 at 9:45 am

      • No, he thinks that if the gerund is tapping, then the verb is tapp.

        ScarletNumber

        March 4, 2017 at 12:39 pm

      • gerund shmerund

        Trump isn’t into unimportant stuff.

        no too late

        March 4, 2017 at 3:29 pm

      • If you really believe that Trump mistakenly misspelled tap because he can’t afford a proofreader (or because, after 70 years on this planet, he does not how tap is spelled in English) then maybe you are more of his target audience than you think.

        howitzer daniel

        March 4, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    • I wouldn’t worry about the misspelling. He’s probably texting on a cell and that’s kind of awkward. I’ve got very thin fingers and I find it difficult, so a man (even with one who has tiny hands like Trump, LOL) would find it very awkward. What bothers me is the vulgarity, and the fact that he’s tweeting about it at all. This is getting out of hand. What am I saying, this IS out of hand.

      It’s crazyland. He shouldn’t be tweeting about this!

      gothamette

      March 4, 2017 at 3:51 pm

      • Even my tweets on a keyboard sometimes goes out with typos. It’s very hard to do it on an old Android phone.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 4, 2017 at 5:34 pm

      • Only school marms check their spelling and grammar before sending out a tweet. The rest of us without sticks up our assholes, just send the damn thing because we realize content is more important than some anal retentive system of metadata.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        March 4, 2017 at 10:06 pm

      • Yes, he shouldn’t be tweeting – he should let the NY Times and Washington Post report the story.

        Brilliant.

        Steve Johnson

        March 5, 2017 at 11:51 am

      • “Yes, he shouldn’t be tweeting – he should let the NY Times and Washington Post report the story.”

        Ha, that’s a good one.

  2. Should he be tweeting about this?

    gothamette

    March 4, 2017 at 9:21 am

    • Are you second-guessing Trump’s persuasion abilities? According to Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, Trump is a “master persuader.”

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 4, 2017 at 9:22 am

      • Scott Adams is beginning to look pretty foolish. Maybe Bannon is a master persuader, but Trump is increasingly looking like a ridiculous grumpy old man.

        Peter Akuleyev

        March 5, 2017 at 6:48 am

      • I think Adams is a buffoon, but let’s wait on this wire tapping business. If Trump produces proof, it’s major trouble for Obama. If he doesn’t, Trump has destroyed himself. He made a very serious charge. It would be terrible if he was bluffing.

        gothamette

        March 5, 2017 at 10:28 am

    • Yes. Because now any information that comes out will be seen through the lens of a president abusing his power to spy on the opposition’s campaign.

      destructure

      March 4, 2017 at 4:50 pm

      • OK, but….what if nothing comes of this? Won’t Trump look like an empty blusterer?

        gothamette

        March 4, 2017 at 6:26 pm

      • “Won’t Trump look bad?” says nervous woman twiddling her thumbs for the 5978th time this year.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        March 4, 2017 at 10:07 pm

      • Oh, shut up. Name-calling is for leftists and retards. If there is nothing to these allegations Trump will look terrible.

        But….if the published reports are true, then Obama is in deep shit, and right now, if I were he, I’d be searching hard for a fall guy. Obama will NEVER be prosecuted, but his reputation even among libs will be a shambles.

        http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/yes-obama-could-be-prosecuted-if-involved-with-illegal-surveillance/

        Obama’s team’s admission it could be classified lower, yet taking actions to insure its broadest distribution, could even put Obama smack-middle of the biggest unlawful surveillance and political-opponent-smear campaign since Nixon. Except even Nixon didn’t use the FBI and NSA for his dirty tricks.

        This is all predicated on IF the published reports are true. One of them was in the NY Times. I have to read it.

        gothamette

        March 4, 2017 at 10:41 pm

      • “Yes. Because now any information that comes out will be seen through the lens of a president abusing his power to spy on the opposition’s campaign.”

        Only if the charges are proven to be true. Making an allegation not based in reality is McCarthyism itself.

        gothamette

        March 5, 2017 at 10:30 am

      • If there is nothing to these allegations Trump will look terrible.”

        It makes me nervous, too. But only slightly. Trump has repeatedly outsmarted and manipulated the Dems, GOP, MSM and everyone else. He baits them with teasers like this. Then when they fall for it he springs his trap. I suspect he has something up his sleeve. If you’ll notice, Obama hasn’t denied it. 🙂

        “Name-calling is for leftists and retards.”

        Please tell me you were being ironic. hehe

        destructure

        March 5, 2017 at 11:51 am

      • Only if the charges are proven to be true.

        You worry too much.

        Of course it is true. All of the denials are non-denial denials.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 5, 2017 at 12:27 pm

  3. The absolute madman!

    Two in the Bush

    March 4, 2017 at 9:44 am

    • Which one? Trump or Obama?

      Curle

      March 4, 2017 at 11:10 am

      • The national news IS making Trump look crazy. They reported on a big fight in the Oval Office (according to “White House sources”) involving Priebus & Bannon, and implied that both were on the outs with Trump, although Bannon later joined Trump at Mar a Lago. They are making the goings on sound like The Madness of King George.

        Further to my comment to destructure above, if there is nothing to Trump’s accusation, he’s gonna look very foolish. Better be some there there.

        gothamette

        March 4, 2017 at 8:30 pm

  4. Obama obtained a valid FISA court order in October and nothing was found. Unethical, yes. Legal, yes. “For the good of the country we had to.” But bad for dems because it makes him seem more innocent that the investigation was under way before election and nothing was found.

    Ron

    March 4, 2017 at 10:01 am

    • I hope Trump is returning the favor. Shady Iran deal + Valerie Jarrett being born in Iran + Jarrett moving in with Obama in D.C. sounds like probable cause for one.

      David Pinsen

      March 4, 2017 at 10:27 am

    • Obama obtained a valid FISA court order in October and nothing was found. Unethical, yes. Legal, yes.

      This could be a warning shot to Obama to knock it off if you don’t want criminal investigations into other activities during your administration.

      If you were a former official of the Obama administration how comfortable would you be if Trump started looking into details of the Iran-Swiss franc bribe deal, why the Muslim Brotherhood was visiting the White House during the coup against Mubarak, classified information about the Benghazi siege and whether that info aligns with the former administration’s testimony to Congress, and why we gave money and weapons to ISIS.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      March 4, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      • Trump is a vindictive person until he’s won. Then he’s fairly magnanimous. Look at Ben Carson, Mitt Romney, and Ted Cruz. He went for the jugular with all of them, but then accorded them a great measure of respect once they conceded he won.

        If Hillary stays out of politics, he’s not going to do anything against her. He’s made that abundantly clear.

        I agree with your analysis that this is a warning shot against Obama. Trump is happy to let Obama go off into the sunset with his reputation intact, but if Obama organizes against Trump, then forget it, Trump’s going to reveal many of Obama’s dirty secrets.

        Most Americans like Obama personally but were dissatisfied with his performance as president. That’s ultimately why Obama enjoyed high approval ratings, even as he was being replaced with someone diametrically opposed to his policies.

        Obama leaving politics as a popular figure is not a bad deal for anyone. It’s also fair that if Obama wants to stay around and subvert his successor, his own reputation deserves renewed scrutiny in light of the things he did which were concealed.

        Sid

        March 4, 2017 at 1:31 pm

      • I agree with your analysis that this is a warning shot against Obama.

        Yes.

        If the Progressives drop the Russia-Trump connection soon Trump will also back down.

        If they do not, the next step for Trump will be to bring up the possibility of formally investigating Obama’s handling of Islamic terrorism. Just threatening that will probably cause the Left to go mute about Russia since the odds are they and Obama will come out looking far worse than Trump will if he goes ahead with an investigation into the Iran Swiss franc bribe, or whatever.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 4, 2017 at 2:07 pm

      • “This could be a warning shot to Obama to knock it off if you don’t want criminal investigations into other activities during your administration.”

        Whatever happened to the “Fast & Furious” investigation. Wasn’t Holder held in contempt of Congress for that? First time ever for an Atty General.

        gothamette

        March 4, 2017 at 3:48 pm

      • “If they do not, the next step for Trump will be to bring up the possibility of formally investigating Obama’s handling of Islamic terrorism.”

        Oh, Trump will have to do very little for some very damning accusations to circulate:

        http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/10/obama-hoped-to-use-isis-as-leverage-against-assad-/

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims

        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/06/clinton-foundation-admits-it-didnt-notify-state-department-1-million-qatar-gift.html

        Even in the absolute worst case scenario for Trump (there’s incontrovertible evidence that he and Putin colluded about hacking the DNC and Podesta emails, Trump has huge holdings and stakes in Russian real estate and state oil, etc.), he will still be able to publicly investigate Saudi/Qatari ties to the Democrats and rip them up.

        Fact is, Americans don’t dislike Russians all that much. To be blunt, Americans fear the threat Islamic terrorists pose to us far more than Putin’s Russia. There isn’t anything Russia has done to us since the end of the Cold War that even comes closer to the kind of suffering and anguish 9/11 brought. Americans have a deep, organic hatred of Islamic terrorists, but more of a scolding attitude at worst to Putin.

        Sid

        March 4, 2017 at 6:14 pm

      • Whatever happened to the “Fast & Furious” investigation. Wasn’t Holder held in contempt of Congress for that? First time ever for an Atty General.

        Like the other Congressional investigations into the Obama admin it was stonewalled into a stalemate.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 4, 2017 at 7:13 pm

      • Fact is, Americans don’t dislike Russians all that much. To be blunt, Americans fear the threat Islamic terrorists pose to us far more than Putin’s Russia.

        And even if the worst case is true that Russia did hack Democratic email servers, it is still just a computer hack against the DNC.

        It’s not like Trump was helping them develop chemical weapons.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 4, 2017 at 7:18 pm

      • It’s also hard to get that mad about the DNC and Podesta getting hacked, unless you’re a Democratic partisan. The WikiLeaks revealed lots of crooked schemes, rigging, and all around cynicism in Hillary’s Democratic Party.

        If the Mafia steals from the Cartel, no one is going to feel that bad for the Cartel, no matter how awful the Mafia is.

        Sid

        March 4, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      • It’s also hard to get that mad about the DNC and Podesta getting hacked, unless you’re a Democratic partisan.

        It helps that is not exactly stealing from the church collection plate.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 5, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    • “Obama obtained a valid FISA court order in October and nothing was found. ”

      He fished for it, after being denied first. FISA isn’t for routine criminal issues but national security. If true, this is political persecution. The how convenient relaxation of the NSA rules are also dicey and need to be reviewed legally.

      gothamette

      March 4, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    • “Obama obtained a valid FISA court order in October and nothing was found. ”

      Where have you seen that stated without a qualifier? I’m genuinely confused – has this been conclusively demonstrated, or simply alleged?

      gothamette

      March 5, 2017 at 6:30 pm

  5. Perhaps it is in reference to this: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443768/obama-fisa-trump-wiretap

    Yes, I do believe Obama did this and was trying to dig up information on Trump. Obama is much more sinister than I previously thought him to be.

    And yes, the Deep State does exist, and it is overwhelmingly liberal.

    JerseyGuy

    March 4, 2017 at 10:11 am

    • The deep state isn’t Mike Flynn type military brass though, it’s a bunch of whining petulant Stalinist pussies who suddenly find themselves in positions of control over the means of violence. Like those movies where the “underdog” nerd gets absolute power and can pick at the bully like a child picking the wings off of a dragonfly.

      Unfortunately for them… Trump isn’t the bully. Trump is Daddy, come home to spank junior.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

      March 4, 2017 at 10:51 am

      • In regards to the Deep State, I agree. It’s more along the lines of the NRx talking points: Red Empire vs. Blue Empire. The Blue Empire, which includes the CIA, is much larger. It seeks to push America and the Globe in a leftist direction over time.

        JerseyGuy

        March 4, 2017 at 12:12 pm

      • So everyone now agrees with me that the CIA is liberal?

        Fortunately the CIA is largely incompetent.

        They failed to predict the dissolution of the Soviet Union, they were blindsided by Pakistan’s nuclear program which led to their first bomb test in 1998, did nothing useful in the months before 911, and predicted ISIS was a collection of second stringers.

        There are some skillful spies remaining there but the best agents (the ones who would have to be on board for an actual coup to succeed) are Republican leaners.

        The rest are liberal Valerie Plame style desk jockeys.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 4, 2017 at 12:34 pm

      • As an intelligence counter-operation, the leaks by the Civil Service have been poorly done.

        Normally, skilled intelligence organizations won’t give away they are monitoring someone until very useful information comes across their desk. Churchill, for example, knew when German airstrikes were going to be launched because Britain had cracked the enigma code. But he did nothing with the information for some time because he if acted on it the Germans would have known enigma was broken.

        What the leakers should have done was lay low for a few years and monitored Trump and his administration while waiting to collect more damaging evidence.

        By leaking everything in the first two months they’ve given Trump an crack down hard on the DC machinery and tighten information handling.

        And the leakers have gained very little for their impatience – their successes were forcing Flynn out and overhyping a nothing story about Jeff Sessions. Flynn was more useful to the Left remaining in the administration because Flynn was always getting himself into to trouble by, for example, pissing of Mattis and making gaffes in public.

        The smarter bet would have been to leave Flynn in there for a few years and wait for him to turn into a more incompetent version of Oliver North. Instead he left early before he commit any serious blunders.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        March 4, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      • “So everyone now agrees with me that the CIA is liberal?”

        No. I agree the CIA is liberal because Buck Sexton, occasional guest host when Rush Limbaugh’s in rehab**, worked for the CIA and says it is largely liberal and its staffers swooned like teenage girls when Obama assumed orifice.

        **I’m totally kidding…. I think.

        hard9bf

        March 4, 2017 at 1:41 pm

      • Don’t a I deserve a commendation for figuring out that the CIA is liberal based only on my SWPL knowledge and not because I actually worked there?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        March 4, 2017 at 1:46 pm

      • The CIA and State Department supported overthrowing Assad. In contrast, the military has amble first-hand experience of the Iraq War and is unwilling to relive it. As such, the Pentagon pushed to just focus on ISIS.

        What’s interesting is that the CIA was composed of Ivy Leaguers in the 50s and 60s. In the 70s and 80s it was composed of former military types. Now it likely consists of non-Ivy League but still relatively elite IR and cultural studies majors.

        (Just remember: Goldman Sachs considers places like Berkeley and Tufts to be non-target schools. There are plenty of upper-middle class kids who didn’t get into Harvard, Yale, or Stanford who hold liberal values.)

        Sid

        March 4, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      • “What the leakers should have done was lay low for a few years and monitored Trump and his administration while waiting to collect more damaging evidence.”

        Yes, but I think their calculus was that they needed to destroy Trump while the iron was still hot. They saw an opening with the “Russia hacked the election” narrative and ran with it. Both Stalin’s Great Terror and Mao’s Cultural Revolution had witch hunts in which political rivals were accused of being agents for foreign powers, and the same paradigm is at work here.

        What I think will happen is that US-Russian tensions will deescalate but won’t improve all that dramatically, due to lingering mutual suspicions and grudges. It will be fairly prosaic. The leakers will slowly but inevitably be found out in sting operations, so they’ll learn to keep their mouths shut.

        Sid

        March 4, 2017 at 2:41 pm

      • “Don’t a I deserve a commendation for figuring out…”

        I think so. Before your post, I would have assumed they leaned conservative because their jobs involve national security. And that seems like the kind of field that would lean conservative. Perhaps it did in the past. But it makes sense it would lean left today for the reasons you gave in that post. As well as most professionals working in government lean left, especially if they’re in the Washington metro area which the CIA is. Washington voted 94% for Hillary. Our nation’s capital is populated by poor blacks who vote Democrat and rich whites who vote Democrat. And both are sucking the government’s teat.

        destructure

        March 4, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      • The CIA permits gays into the service now . Doesn’t matter that the gay is out and open, many open gays participate in such outrageous and morally reprehensible acts that they are ipso facto blackmail-able. The CIA itself is the major security risk for the United States.

        Daniel

        March 4, 2017 at 5:16 pm

      • “many open gays participate in such outrageous and morally reprehensible acts that they are ipso facto blackmail-able.”

        Homosexuals have historically been considered a security risk. And it’s not just because they can be blackmailed. A lot of homos lean left, radical, etc. People who lean left aren’t big on loyalty. Moreover, a lot of homos don’t feel like they belong. And people who don’t feel like they belong have a tendency to sympathize with the enemy. Everyone remembers how the gay intelligence officer Bergdhal leaked classified info. But Germany recently had one do the same.
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3993248/First-pictures-gay-porn-actor-Che-Guevara-tattoo-leaked-secrets-Islamist-jihadists-working-German-intelligence.html

        A lot of homos are teased and bullied in school and have a big grudge over it. After Leon kept mentioning the freckle-faced redheads being liberal I found some articles saying that British redheads were 5 times more likely to convert to Islam. For some reason British have a thing about bullying and teasing redheads. Anyway, my point is that people who are teased and bullied feel like outsiders, sympathize with the enemy, have a grudge, etc. .
        http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/09/27/milo-gingers-turn-islam-ugly/

        “The CIA itself is the major security risk for the United States.”

        Indeed. It’s a mistake to let liberals anywhere near national security. Liberals have no respect for authority or group loyalty. Look at who’s always attacking the police, badmouthing America, burning the flag, etc. Liberals think they’re tolerant and open-minded, They’re really just disloyal.

        destructure

        March 5, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    • Oh man, this is just too much fun. What a time to be alive!

      Andrew E.

      March 4, 2017 at 11:39 am

  6. Of course Obama bugged Trump. Hell, he’s setting up the HQ of the Shadow Government in his DC mansion as we speak. The Deep State is very, very real.

    Let them call Trump liar or crazy. Then Trump will put up the evidence.

    (Yes, it showed how the frame of reference of America is so left wing/blue-pill that the only way to conjure up images of political evil is to name Right Wing/Republican politicians. McCarthy was a hero and Watergate was a tempest in a teapot created by the media to overthrow a President elected by a landslide. And Nixon’s policies were mostly liberal, anyway!)

    fakeemail

    March 4, 2017 at 11:07 am

  7. Time to reinstate the Church committee.

    Curle

    March 4, 2017 at 11:13 am

  8. This is from the day before the election. https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/

    Interestingly, it was written by Louise Mensch, an anti Trumper and former Conservative member of the British Parliament.

    Mike Street Station

    March 4, 2017 at 11:35 am

    • Louise Mensch is insane. I’ve been off of Twitter for awhile now but occasionally I will just google her Twitter feed and the stuff that comes out of there is crazy. She thinks that Russia is going to invade France and America any day now.

      JerseyGuy

      March 4, 2017 at 12:14 pm

  9. OT- After years of denying that Illegals were lowering wages in US MSM now concerned that deportees lowering wages in Mexico.

    “More returnees means lower wages for everybody in blue-collar industries such as construction and automobile manufacturing, where competition for jobs is likely to increase, economists say.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/the_americas/mexico-prepares-to-absorb-a-wave-of-deportees-in-the-trump-era/2017/03/03/a7bd624a-f86c-11e6-aa1e-5f735ee31334_story.html

    Curle

    March 4, 2017 at 11:55 am

  10. Legal Question: If Trump and Russia DID coordinate during the campaign would this have violated any laws?

    The DNC email hackers broke into systems that were not classified, so I assume the penalties would be much less severe than leaking wiretaps of conversations with foreign officials would be (Information from wiretaps of governments are supposed to be very tightly controlled).

    The Undiscovered Jew

    March 4, 2017 at 12:23 pm

  11. Trump just found out the FBI/NSA was tapping his phones? This is old news.

    Is Trump so poorly informed that he really didn’t know about this since November?

    It was just a few days ago that Trump read a speech and everyone was saying how presidential he looked. Now in the middle of the night he sends out some tweets showing he has no idea what is going on and throwing around silly conspiracy theories.

    mikeca

    March 4, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    • Society’s tendency to malign people based on unconventional sleep patterns isn’t really fair to begin with. But that doesn’t even really apply to Trump because he seems to just get by on very little sleep, which is something that people generally admire and value, rather than say, staying up all night and sleeping all day.

      Magnavox

      March 4, 2017 at 1:33 pm

  12. Is there anything Trump does *not* lie about (including his height and weight)?

    Anthony

    March 4, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    • Trump doesn’t lie, he exaggerates. It’s prole the way he exaggerates, but let’s not confuse proleness with lying.

      Anyone who bothers to understand Trump’s prole quirks and stop taking him literally always knows exactly what he means.

      It’s other politicans who are the real liars. Like the Republicans who all said they would support the eventual nominee, but then refused to support Trump. Or when HRC acted outraged because she imagined that Trump wouldn’t respect the results of the election, but really it’s the HRC camp that’s not respecting the results of the election.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      March 4, 2017 at 1:49 pm

      • I agree. He is not very good with words. But what is good about Trump is that because he is so prole, he is not sleazy or manipulative so he is blunt with what he intends. He is referring to the FISA wire request that Andy McCarthy has written about. It was quite clearly an attempt by Obama to “spy” on Trump. Trump knows that. His inside circle knows that. Trump is a prole so he is going to tell it like it is.

        JerseyGuy

        March 4, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      • Journalists and commentators consider themselves witty, but they turn autistic when listening to Trump.

        ScarletNumber

        March 4, 2017 at 3:51 pm

      • They don’t read Lion’s blog so they don’t understand what’s going on.

        We currently have the home field advantage and it may take our enemies a decade or more to catch up!

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

        March 4, 2017 at 10:22 pm

  13. Lion,
    I’m not a big Mark Levin fan but this is really interesting:
    https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/mark-levin-shows-he-is-the-great-one-by-exposing-police-state-tactics-of-obama-lackeys

    This led to the Breitbart post about Obama tactics, including FISA requests…

    JerseyGuy

    March 4, 2017 at 1:48 pm

  14. This just shows the Left is full of it. Their pose as the people who care about “rights” and personal privacy is all a LIE. They’re all fanatics that belong to a Cult. Some call it “Humanism” and others refer to it as “Cultural Marxism”. All their fake “Antidisestablishmentarianism” during the 60s and crying about government “overreach” under Nixon was all just a pose.
    They’re not rebels at all. They are all a bunch of social climbers and collaborators who want to be apparatchniks and commissars.

    Joshua Sinistar

    March 4, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    • Humans wanting power over other humans. What a novel concept!

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lap Dog

      March 4, 2017 at 10:23 pm

  15. Gothamette should have more confidence in The Donald.

    I don’t think there’s any reason to doubt that the Obama administration tapped Donald’s phones, or servers,
    based on the carefully parsed ‘denial’ given by O spokesman Kevin Lewis.

    ‘On Saturday, former President Obama’s spokesman Kevin Lewis denied that the former White House or the former President himself would have given such an order to wiretap Trump Tower—or any other type of surveillance in any case—but that such an order would have come from an “independent investigation led by the Department of Justice.” ‘

    Of course the White House or O didn’t “give such an order” – However, they might have made such a suggestion instead – In the name of national security, of course.
    Did Obama’s DOJ and Loretta Lynch undertake this action without O’s knowledge?
    Will anyone believe that?.
    There should be an interesting email trail here unless Lois Lerner gets to the hard drives first.

    “A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice,” Lewis said. “As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false.”

    “…no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice
    That sentence about confirms that there was a DOJ investigation of Trump.

    The real problem for O is that he can’t claim to be an objective outsider simply protecting
    US national security.

    He was actively campaigning for H and giving speeches for her when this was going on.
    He was a Hillary surrogate while his DOJ was looking for dirt on Donald.
    How is that not Watergate 2.0?
    I’m betting there will be plenty of email evidence to be discovered.

    Finally, of course, O and H and the ‘intelligence community’ never expected news of this
    investigation to be made public – H was supposed to win big and maintain control of DOJ, NSA, CIA, etc.

    Control of the government was never supposed to have passed to Trump and his anti-globalist upstarts.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/04/non-denial-denial-obama-response-trump-wiretap-claim-raises-questions/

    Nedd Ludd

    March 4, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    • I don’t doubt the wiretapping either. I’m just being precise here, forcing everyone to admit up front that right now we are functioning in the world of “apparently,” “reportedly,” and “evidently.”

      FWIW, I think your scenario is reasonable.

      gothamette

      March 5, 2017 at 4:06 pm


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