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Chuck Ross presents new reasons why it’s good that Flynn was fired

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Chuck Ross writes in the Daily Caller that New Disclosures Show It Was Probably A Good Idea To Fire Michael Flynn

As people who read my blog know, from the beginning I opined that Trump used the Russia stuff as an opportunity to fire Flynn because he had other reasons for not wanting him around anymore.

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March 9, 2017 at 9:57 am

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  1. The Dems and msm would have skewered Flynn for this — and rightly so. But it was still much less egregious than what Hillary’s foundation was doing. In fact, their response was to deflect with allegations against Trump. They claimed that his company having done business in foreign countries while he was a private citizen was more of an issue than her taking hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign governments (including China!) while Sec of State.

    destructure

    March 9, 2017 at 10:44 am

  2. It was already known Flynn lobbied for the Turks when they hired him. So if that were the cause, what changed their minds?

    Giovanni Dannato

    March 9, 2017 at 10:54 am

    • Flynn had made a number of mistakes. Individually none of them would have been his end. But together they show a pattern. With blood in the water and the knives out for Flynn, it was better to cut their losses than wait for everyone to pile on with every mistake he’d made. Even things like Turkey would have been dragged back out. Either Trump didn’t think it was worth spending the political capital to save him. Or he saw a convenient opportunity to get rid of someone he no longer wanted.

      destructure

      March 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm

  3. Still think it was bad optics not to at least wait a bit before firing him. Also, this is old news — was known at the time of his firing. It’s also a direct contradiction to the liberal narrative on Flynn: Turkey probably has the most hostile relations with Russia of any country this side of Ukraine; they came to the brink of war when the Turks shot down the Russian plane in 2015. And in any event it’d be a consolation prize for us if liberals got put on the record as opposing Erdogan.

    OT: I’ve learned never to overestimate the Stupid Party, but I wonder if the “botched rollout” of the healthcare plan isn’t more clever than it’s being given credit for. It’s conspicuously missing Trump’s signature policy — eliminating the lines between the states — and it contains the obviously-tone-deaf provision allowing insurers to write off executive compensation as a business expense.

    The clear next move is to offer up a revised bill with no-lines-between-the-states included and the compensation writeoff removed, so both the conservative and moderate objectors have a face-saving justification to support it. Rand Paul and Susan Collins can both claim they got their pound of flesh, and Trump gets the bill he wanted.

    I’m positing this unusual GOP cleverness because the bill was much smarter than I expected: it doesn’t take the politically ruinous step of eliminating O’care’s pre-existing condition and Millennial provisions, it figured out a face-saving way to keep the mandate, it doesn’t punish GOP state governments for not expanding Medicaid (a Stupid Party gambit, but it would be even stupider for a GOP administration and congress to punish them for it), and it’s clearly intended to be anti-dysgenic/pro-affordable-family-formation compared to O’care, increasing the portion of benefits that go to the middle class versus the underclass.

    snorlaxwp

    March 9, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    • It isn’t the solution to the country’s healthcare problems by a long shot, but I actually think it’s better than it’s getting credit for. The tax credit scheme is pretty sweet. And besides, regardless of what the GOP put out there would still have been sob stories about dying kids losing their coverage because of evil Republicans on the news every night between now an ’18.

      Two in the Bush

      March 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    • Turkey probably has the most hostile relations with Russia of any country this side of Ukraine

      Erdogan has been the most pro-Russian president in Turkish history. It’s a love/hate relationship. Erdogan doesn’t trust the Russians, and your average Turk in the street hates Russia, but Erdogan knows he can’t blackmail the West without a credible threat that Turkey could turn to Russia if the West won’t do what Turkey wants.

      Peter Akuleyev

      March 9, 2017 at 2:28 pm

      • Erdogan and Putin’s relations thawed following the coup. Putin and Russia-sympathetic regimes more or less bought into the story that the coup was a Gulenist plot. I think they’ve agreed to acknowledge each other’s spheres of influence in Syria, and Erdogan is more insistent on neutering Kurdish nationalism than unseating Assad.

        The Turkish and Russian populations don’t trust each other, but there has been a fair deal of cultural exchange, travel, and “love tourism” since the end of the Cold War, so the two countries have a more complicated relationship than just being enemies.

        Sid

        March 9, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      • When the Russian ambassador was assassinated in Turkey, Putin and Erdogan both seemed to publicly agree that the assassin wanted to derail their improving relations. I think more Russians blamed Obama for the shooting than Erdogan, believe it or not.

        Sid

        March 9, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      • Turkey had been hostile to Russia, but after the coup, they dramatically shift gears and ended their support for ISIS and started cooperating with Russia in Syria. Flynn was doing the right thing because Turkey genuinely did turn their back on the Islamic Radicals at that time and so the US embracing him made geopolitical sense, but try discussing geopolitics with a liberal. They would have never let him hear the end of it.

        PerezHBD

        March 9, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    • The mandate was eliminate by reduce the penalty to $0. The current bill is being passed via reconciliation which means it needs only 51 votes in the Senate to pass but it also means the bill can only address funding aspects of the legislation (ie, reducing the non-tax “tax” to $0, haha). But you can’t eliminate the mandate per se because that’s not funding and would thus require 60 votes to pass in the Senate.

      Andrew E.

      March 9, 2017 at 2:52 pm

      • That would be so sweet if they undid the mandate during tax season. I hate hitting my clients with that thing. I run into very few who actually signed on with ACA – they either have insurance at work or they go without. Now since expansion here they can get Medicaid. So many low income guys, especially, just don’t give a damn and don’t want to deal with the hassle. I’m not sure anything will fix that or make them give a shit.

        Mrs Stitch

        March 9, 2017 at 8:51 pm

      • I thought Trump directed the IRS to ignore people who lie about having insurance.

      • The ACA is a scam just as much as the entire tax preparation industry. Why do taxes need to be complex? They should be easy and people will pay their fair share.

        I’m looking forward to the implosion of America — our complex tax system is a reflective of the dysfunction and non-fixable mess.

        JS

        March 10, 2017 at 12:03 am

  4. I’ve given up on second-guessing President Trump. Even when he rubs me the wrong way, like kicking off his Not State of the Union address with a shout-out to black supremacy month, I still support him and trust all his decisions. Our new president plays 3D chess 24/7/365, so everybody just relax.

    hard9bf

    March 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    • The GRE is as good of an IQ test as the LSAT so this doesn’t make a difference.

      • Asians will benefit because the GRE has math. Maybe the GMAT will be acceptable at some point?

        Broccc

        March 10, 2017 at 9:57 am

  5. As people who read my blog know, from the beginning I opined that Trump used the Russia stuff as an opportunity to fire Flynn because he had other reasons for not wanting him around anymore.

    Trump is lucky the Left was too impatient to wait for Flynn to become entangled in a more serious scandal.

    https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/general-flynn-the-temptation-of-the-lazy-left-to-miscalculate/

    Further, the administration, having been in power for only 4 weeks, most likely would not have had adequate time to organize a sinister plot with Russia even if it wanted to.

    Flynn seems foolish enough to have gotten into a more serious scandal if he remained in his position. By washing out early he has done a long term disservice to the Left.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    March 9, 2017 at 6:24 pm

  6. I think this was known before Flynn’s appointment, although maybe not this well documented. I thought I remember reading that Flynn should have registered as an agent of a foreign government for this contract, but had not. Now he is registering.

    mikeca

    March 9, 2017 at 7:16 pm

  7. In other news, China has awarded Trump his trade mark for massage parlors and escort services:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/322892-china-offers-preliminary-approval-to-38-new-trump-trademarks

    One hopes that these trade marks are defensive. Trump got these trade marks to prevent anyone else using the Trump name for massage parlors or escort services in China.

    mikeca

    March 9, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    • Never forget, you were fully prepared to have Hillary Clinton take over the power of the presidency. A woman who was party to the illegal selling of classified missile technology to China for campaign contributions when her husband was running for re-election as president.

      Andrew E.

      March 10, 2017 at 12:02 am

    • Oh, and your “Russian hacker” was really Guccifer 2.0, who was in turn….wait for it…..a DNC tech consultant. Brennan is certainly stupid enough to fall for it but I do wonder if he knew all along and simply passed on the filthy lie.

      http://g-2.space/

      Andrew E.

      March 10, 2017 at 12:10 am

    • Andrew, you are hilarious. You need to get out more and enjoy life rather than spending all day reading conspiracy sites.

      mikeca

      March 10, 2017 at 12:46 am

  8. OT:

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/03/09/paul-ryan-outlines-why-it-takes-three-steps-for-obamacare-repeal-and-replacement/

    This is a very interesting take on Obamacare. Worth reading.

    Excerpt: A clean repeal bill, meaning a law to repeal the entire ObamaCare construct only, would require another 60 vote hurdle in the Senate.

    Republicans, while in the majority, only control 52 seats. Without 8 Democrats voting to approve a “repeal bill”, any House (Or Senate) bill that repeals ObamaCare cannot pass the Senate.

    This is why Mark Levin is a con-man; selling snake oil as outrage to keep a listening audience angry, yet clueless and hopeless. That’s what I don’t like.

    A complete repeal of ObamaCare is currently impossible. The House Freedom Caucus can push all the repeal bills they want, but they cannot get a clean repeal bill through the Senate because they cannot get the 60 votes needed. Period.

    map

    March 9, 2017 at 9:17 pm

  9. Flynn was for Russia reconciliation. Russia is a nationalist country. Ergo, Flynn must be destroyed. He called Putin after the CIA killed the Russian Turkish ambassador to stop retaliation. He had to be removed.

    The CIA really really wants a new cold war.

    The Philosopher In Transition Back to Philosopher

    March 10, 2017 at 6:05 am

    • I don’t think the CIA killed the Russian ambassador. The explanation is probably more mundane.
      (1) Russia fights ISIS, thereby becoming enemy of Islam, to many believers.
      (2) Turkish Muslim shouts Allahu Akbar as he goes jihad on the Russian Ambassador.

      When Muslims shout Allahu Akbar and start killing, it doesn’t look fishy to me. That’s pretty much exactly what the founder of that faith did on numerous occasions when encountering ‘infidels’.

      Dan

      March 10, 2017 at 12:19 pm


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