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Jeb Bush believes in robots

Reported by the Washington Examiner:

“The looming challenge of automation and artificial intelligence and the rapid advancement of technology brings great benefits but also creates huge challenges,” Bush told radio host John Catsimatidis on AM 970 in New York.

The threat of a number of jobs being lost to automation is “real,” he said. “This is not something that’s science fiction. This is happening as we speak. And yet we still have this big skills gap.”

. . .

The solution, Bush said, is in education and job training so that people can obtain the skills needed where there are currently job openings and for the jobs of the future.

Jeb Bush is right that automation and artificial intelligence taking away jobs is a real problem. But why is he suddenly talking about this now? I think it’s in response to Donald Trump, who is the first president in a really really long time to be concerned about jobs moving overseas. What Jeb is saying here is “Donald Trump, you are STUPID for thinking that the jobs problem can be fixed with tariffs and withdrawal from trade agreements. Because robots.”

In fact, Jeb is the stupid one. He is very stupid to believe that education is the magic elixir that will fix everything. It’s HBD denialism. The people not already educated are that way because they just aren’t college material, and no amount of time spent sitting in classrooms will change their low-IQ genes into high-IQ genes.

This is not to say that Trump’s way will work in the long run, but at least his heart is in the right place. As long as our economy is based on people only being able to obtain resources by working at jobs in a capitalist economy, then Trump’s way will help a little by increasing the demand for domestic labor.

But I predict that eventually, Jeb Bush’s way will win out. The establishment hates Trump and they want none of his solutions A few days ago I predicted that the government will pay people to drive virtual trucks. I was being a little tongue-in-cheek. It’s a lot more likely that the government will pay people to attend “education.” No one wants to pay people to drive virtual trucks because people think it’s useless make-work, which they think is a bad thing. But paying people to get education, almost everyone believes that education is a good thing, and worth paying for. Yes, education is a form of make-work that the establishment can get behind.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 2, 2017 at 8:54 pm

Posted in Labor Markets

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  1. Maybe the only job for poor whites will be to police poor everyone else.

    OT

    Lion, I think you will love this:

    http://leadandgold.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/steak-ketchup-and-trump-derangement.html

    I know you brought that up a while ago, but read the quotes from England’s Bloomsbury set. Good Lord!

    darkreformation101

    April 2, 2017 at 9:06 pm

  2. “Donald Trump, you are STUPID for thinking that the jobs problem can be fixed with tariffs and withdrawal from trade agreements. Because robots.”

    Exactly. This message was decided on in a back room somewhere because suddenly everyone from across the mainstream political spectrum is using the same line to criticize’s Trump’s messages on trade and immigration.

    You could easily fix the problem through the tax code. Which I think Bill Gates of all people recently pointed out.

    Magnavox

    April 2, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    • Actually NeoGaf has been using this line big time since the election. “We can’t have tariffs because robots will take all our jobs”. NeoGaf, like Bush, and apparently Lion as well, do not realize that robots need to be built, installed, maintained and supervised.

      Personally I’m a free trade guy. I don’t think trade barriers help anyone but the political reality is that you have to at least act like you are protecting your domestic workforce, particularly if you are a Republican.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 2, 2017 at 11:11 pm

      • The political reality is that there is no such thing as free trade. “Free Trade” agreements are simply an opportunity for differing powerful interests to codify their trade interests into law.

        Mike Street Station

        April 3, 2017 at 7:35 am

  3. “Yes, education is a form of make-work that the establishment can get behind.”

    Apparently that’s common in Scandinavian countries. Their education expenses are highly subsidized, so many of their students enjoy spending their youths picking up a myriad of different degrees.

    Frankly, there are worse forms of make-work than studying arcane subjects. It also gives people some form of structure in their lives.

    Sid

    April 2, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    • It’s good make-work for smart people, it will just make stupid people feel worse about themselves for being too stupid to get it.

  4. If our culture were still Protestant Christian and we reached an age of post-scarcity and a basic income, the state would encourage people to study the Bible all day, so that people’s souls would go to heaven.

    Since the religion of our day is Diversity and Sustainability, moderately bright people (IQs 105-115, maybe up to 120) will learn about the evils of white supremacy from sunrise to sunset, with some time taken out for yoga, organic vegan food, animal rights and photography, and an ecology class or two.

    Sid

    April 2, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    • This is a very wise comment.

    • Good point, I assumed for example the Japanese would weather the transition by paying everyone to be Japanese. Basically the government taxes robot production and uses the proceeds to employ everyone as cast members at a theme park where the theme is Japan. I was concerned that the United States was too fractured to ever follow the same model. Utopian that I was I forgot they could arrive at some destructive and exclusionary path instead.

  5. Yeah, it’s pretty amazing that “education” continues to be a fix-all for everything in popular political discourse when it has an absolutely abysmal track record in broadly improving the skills of the less intelligent portion of society.

    I guess maybe you can chalk it up to the generation currently in charge mostly coming of age in a time when college became practically available to everyone and a college degree suddenly meant access to easy wealth from the greatest economic boom in American history. But that time was short-lived and “education” has been coasting on being enshrined in traditional wisdom ever since.

    Jokah Macpherson

    April 2, 2017 at 9:51 pm

  6. If that name sounds familiar, John Catsimatidis is worth $800 million.

    ScarletNumber

    April 2, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    • This guy is an inspiration. He’s worth 4 billion though. $800,000 are his real estate holdings.

      Yakov

      April 3, 2017 at 7:36 am

  7. Eugenics- BAD, dealing with 6+billion proles breathing up all the good air- GOOD!

    Modern medicine and hygiene is responsible for too many proles with poor genetics living…decreases in intelligence, R-selected mating patterns, etc.

    Even our elite is made up of stupid proles who think the only way to achieve status is by destroying their country!

    jjbees

    April 2, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    • “Even our elite is made up of stupid proles who think the only way to achieve status is by destroying their country!”

      Destroying their own countries is very upper class. The working class tends to be patriotic. Which only shows that IQ and the ability to make money don’t equate to wisdom and common sense.

      destructure

      April 3, 2017 at 3:22 am

      • Defending one’s country used to be a very upper class thing to do.

        Jjbees

        April 3, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    • At the juncture of your argument, things begin to shift more accurately from class to race critique.

      Take heart that the best way to assure a solid pendulum swing, which will lock us in an inverse position for a long time, is for them to keep doubling down as things get very bad. This mechanism is all but a law of nature. What that pendulum swing may look like may be bad in the extreme, but its eventual resting place is along the lines of where you want it to be.

      Dave

      April 3, 2017 at 12:37 pm

  8. Education of course. They’ll pa the faculty and the students both.

    And they’ll pay people to organize local sports clubs. Eventually they’ll even pay people to participate in the sports clubs. Exercise is healthy and good for you according to the Cathedral, so they can pay people to do it. And it will help defer health care costs, they will say. Luckily for the elect, evidence is not required when you have the Cathedral.

    Probably there will be various kinds of reading clubs, craft clubs, and such included as a measure to promote equality for people who don’t love sports. That’s how lazy people will eventually come to be paid to play video games.

    Gosh it’s a glorious future. We can only hope to live to see it.

    Owen

    April 2, 2017 at 10:45 pm

  9. education is pretty useless for high iq people too. unless they have a freakishly eidetic memory even smart people struggle to remember most of the things they learn in a degree. the structure of higher education is such that you effectively are supposed to memorise a text-book’s worth of knowledge in three months, after which you never ever have to revise or encounter that information ever again. i effectively forget everything i learn in my university subjects a few weeks after the final test of that subject. education and the process of getting a degree is just a series of busy-work hoops much more than it is about “learning” anything. learnign implies long-term or lifetime retention; that isnt the case for anyone, whatever their iq is.

    james n.s.w

    April 2, 2017 at 11:04 pm

  10. I’m an education skeptic, like the rest of the blog, but it might be worth actually attempting to raise peoples IQs through a combination of mindfulness meditation and IQ training. The brain is highly plastic and there are numerous examples of people suddenly becoming savants after brain injuries so there may be some potential there.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 2, 2017 at 11:13 pm

  11. Jeb is an idiot. Let’s import a ton of immigrants and their entire extended families to do the jobs that robots will be doing in the near future.

    Rotten

    April 2, 2017 at 11:35 pm

  12. “education and job training” has been the mandatory line tossed into every Wall Street Journal article about trade and automation that feels it must touch on the job loss those things will cause. It’s a meaningless line that amazingly, even the Washington Post is starting to recognize

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/30/were-so-unprepared-for-the-robot-apocalypse/?utm_term=.b4eaba40ba9d

    This article, ultimately can’t pull the trigger on the real implications of the automation job crisis, but pre-Trump it wouldn’t even be acknowledged that there is a problem.

    Mike Street Station

    April 3, 2017 at 12:06 am

  13. Paradoxically, Jeb Bush believes that immigrants are an “engine of economic vitality” and supported a pathway to citizenship for illegals. Sorry Jeb, you can’t have it both ways. Automation and immigration are the one-two punch that the elites will use to kill jobs.

    JohnBeck

    April 3, 2017 at 12:07 am

    • Sorry Jeb, you can’t have it both ways.

      Why not? More La Raza immigration then tell people to fixate on Robot Threat as a diversion.

      Perfect one two.

      The solution, Bush said, is in education and job training so….

      ….and MORE immigration from Mexico!!!

      Jeb Bush is a La Raza, look at his family.

      He’s basically saying – “Ignore illegal immigration/invasion from Latin America because ROBOTS!!!”

      So now for the “elites” the threats are Climate Change, Robots and the Russians!

      Along with Trump and his Deplorable supporters of course.

      Rifleman

      April 3, 2017 at 4:52 am

    • If the robots are going to be doing all of these jobs, then why do we need so many immigrants?

      If you really care about environment, then why do you allow so many immigrants into the country?

      These are the questions that need to be answered.

      And how will they answer?

      F**k you, whitey.

      map

      April 3, 2017 at 6:14 am

    • With Jeb, immigrants, particularly Hispanic ones, are more important than native Americans, so ultimately he doesn’t care about automation. The most important goal for him is to cram America full of as many unskilled immigrants (legal or illegal) as possible. That’s why he thinks “education and job training” can fix everything; he comes from a long line of “education” Presidents.

      Mike Street Station

      April 3, 2017 at 7:40 am

  14. The obvious solution to automation killing jobs is to end immigration so that fewer people are competing for the remaining jobs. Did ¡Jeb! advocate ending immigration? No. He’s just trying to deflect attention from immigration by scapegoating robots.

    destructure

    April 3, 2017 at 3:51 am

  15. You have to consider Jeb Bush’s unique situation: he is married to a Mexican, and his children are half Mexican. So for him to admit to HBD either to himself, or to his inner family, is going to create great turmoil. Yes, yes, I know that HBD does not mean that all Mexicans have mediocre IQ, but the prevailing belief among the Latino community in the USA, even among Conservative Latinos, is that all people have the right to come to America and live out their dreams and become a success here, and that the current wave of Mexican immigrants is no different from previous waves of Irish, Italian, or Polish immigrants. For him to admit that a significant number of the Mexicans coming into the USA today are different to European immigrants that came in the past would be a betrayal of his own family.

    DataExplorer

    April 3, 2017 at 9:35 am

    • ” So for him to admit to HBD either to himself, or to his inner family, is going to create great turmoil. Yes, yes, I know that HBD does not mean that all Mexicans have mediocre IQ,..”

      There are plenty of High IQ Mexicans Jeb could have married if his goal was (as it seems to be) create a Hispanic political dynasty with long establishment roots. As for the IQ of the peasant girl he actually married, I don’t know what it is, but the mediocrity of his kids seems to be a bright shining indicator. There is no political dynasty coming from that branch of the Bushes.

      Mike Street Station

      April 4, 2017 at 7:49 am

  16. I imagine this has to do with the impending retail apocalypse and massive layoffs from up and down the supply chain. Also, those “recession-proof” businesses of the past like Clownburger are beginning to bleed red. Expect a period of deflation in prices followed by panic when Wall Street’s bubble blows up and craters, and then massive tightening by the Fed creates hyperinflation. Last Bilderberger group was in panic mode from Brexit and Trump. I imagine the plan they came up with is to install some droids and blame machines for the huge layoffs and closings that will happen THIS YEAR.

    Joshua Sinistar

    April 3, 2017 at 10:00 am

  17. I believe in robots, too: I’ve seen them, which is more than I can say about any gods.

    Anthony

    April 3, 2017 at 10:03 am

  18. In terms of student body capability, education was a much more realistic institution when high school wasn’t free and relatively successful middle class men with only eighth-grade educations were common.

    Though, it can also be said that many of these (almost-all White) men would have done well through a graduate program, and thus could have been said to have been under-educated. This is the inverse situation that we have now.

    That was roughly around the time of the World War I generation, at the latest.

    The WWII generation largely attended high school. This was probably the most realistic educational system balance for a mostly white Nation. Free high school, and if you went to college as a prole then you really were something special.

    The Boomers have college degrees.

    I’d be interested in graduate degree completion differences between Boomers and Gen X through the Millenials.

    That they were / are pushing for universal free undergraduate education tells you all that you need to know about the future of that credential.

    Though, the other side of that is that such a push seems to be behind the curve.

    It has been the de facto minimum credential for some time (and thus expect standards to keep falling), just as high school used to be, and has been de facto universally “free” (read: economically accessible) since the advent of Stafford loans for everyone; and assuming that the average prole chooses a modestly priced public school – which most have no choice but to do.

    The end-result is a sharp fall in birth-rate, as more young adults spend important reproductive years studying. Today, those who don’t go to college are bottom of the barrel, with some small-group exceptions (the Amish, Orthodox Jews), and thus college has tipped the population balance for ghetto dwellers and low IQ people of other groups.

    Dave

    April 3, 2017 at 12:27 pm

  19. If education taught you a skill with which you can successfully make money in a low danger job, or with which you can solve life problems (ie: to read research) , or to think, then it was useful. If it did none of these things, then it wasn’t. That’s the best that I know how to both qualify and simplify my view of it.

    Dave

    April 3, 2017 at 12:32 pm

  20. We’ve been told for years that low birth rates are a problem for the West which required immigration. Doesn’t the ‘robots’ argument mean that this policy must have been wrong?

    If the predictions about robot-induced unemployment are correct then all those articles about the famously low Japanese birthrate have been completely wrong. In fact their low birth rates were a feature; they have found a way to painlessly and voluntarily scale down their numbers to a more sustainable level in the future.

    prolier than thou

    April 3, 2017 at 1:14 pm

  21. Well, at least Jeb isn’t calling for more immigration to solve the problem. That’s progress.

    Daniel

    April 3, 2017 at 3:58 pm


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