Lion of the Blogosphere

Barry Manilow is gay

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Not gay as in his music sucks, but gay as in he puts his penis into orifices in which it was traditionally believed that Mother Nature never intended it to be put. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I never knew, but I’m clueless about those things.

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Mandy is the most quintessential Manilow, but perhaps his most fun song is Copacabana, and I enjoyed watching this live rendition at YouTube in which he’s wearing an outfit that reminds me of Gene Wilder’s character from Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.

Barry, part Irish-Catholic and part Jewish, grew up in the same neighborhood in Brooklyn as my mother.

I come from nowhere Brooklyn, New York. Williamsburg, Brooklyn. These days Williamsburg is kind of a hip area, but when I grew up there, the taxi drivers wouldn’t even go over the bridge, it was so dangerous.

When I grew up there it was a dump. All I remember is running home from school so I wouldn’t get beat up.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 5, 2017 at 11:26 am

Posted in Music videos

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  1. He had a pretty unconvincing “beard” in his heyday, the publicist Linda Allen who gamely played along for many years.

    Fiddlesticks

    April 5, 2017 at 11:41 am

  2. And in other news, RuPaul is actually a man.

    Ice Hole

    April 5, 2017 at 11:55 am

  3. Bannon is out!

    SWPL2

    April 5, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    • This is an extremely misleading comment. Bannon is definitely not “out.”

      • I’m surprised I don’t get any credit for the joke…

        SWPL2

        April 5, 2017 at 12:58 pm

  4. Is it my imagination or do a disproportionately large number of Jews appear to be gay? If so is it because they tend to live in the centers of gadom like NY & LA? I suspect it’s to do with IQ, but precisely speaking does high IQ just make the community more tolerant of aberrant tendencies or do high IQ groups actually produce more gay people. The upper classes generally and upper class Brits in particular shows similar tendencies. The large working-class Sikh (Indian) community that I belong to here in Vancouver, Canada appears to have very few gays.

    roli

    April 5, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    • Growing up in an urban setting massively ups one’s odds of being gay. And Jews are urban creatures. I don’t think there’s much more to it than that. The stress of city living seems to screw up development in some way.

      It’s not just you noticing. Jews are in fact disproportionately homo.

      bobbybobbob

      April 5, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    • Ashkenazi jews have the highest percentage of homosexuals of any ethnic group.
      Blacks are number two.
      Blacks love fucking shit. Literally, in this case.

      Robert the Wise

      April 7, 2017 at 5:47 pm

  5. By your “orafices” criterion, every man in porn is gay.

    Steve@steve.com

    April 5, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    • Yeah. I’m in my 20’s and I’m pretty sure even in my living memory oral sex was still seen as somewhat outré among more prudish older people.

      snorlax

      April 5, 2017 at 1:51 pm

  6. Traditionally, oral sex was considered to be part of sodomy. Also, French kissing was considered an unusual and somewhat scandalous act. It was called “French” kissing by English speakers to suggest its foreign, alien provenance and its decadent nature.

    Tom

    April 5, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    • “Traditionally, oral sex was considered to be part of sodomy.”

      In the Arizona penal code, it was called a “Lewd and Lascivious Act,” while the other orifice was considered the “Infamous Crime Against Nature.” Unfortunately, those old colorful statutes were repealed in 2001.

  7. I’m shocked, shocked, shocked to hear this news.

    Camlost

    April 5, 2017 at 12:57 pm

  8. I’m more shocked to learn that he’s half Irish. Really?

    gothamette

    April 5, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    • I’m surprised to learn that he grew up in Williamsburg. I always thought he came from the same Flatbush/Midwood/Sheepshead Bay/Lincoln HS/Madison HS/Erasmus Hall milieu that gave us such as Neil Diamond, Barbra Streisand, Carol King, et al.

      sestamibi

      April 6, 2017 at 12:05 am

      • My mom knew Carol King in high school.

      • Yeah that was surprising. I think it might have had something to do with his mixed ethnic origins.

        That Flatbush/Erasmus Hall milieu was quite a talent factory, wasn’t it?

        BTW I read another article that claims something different WRT Manilow’s Irish ethnicity but I trust Ethnicelebs. They do their research. They even got Johnny Depp’s African ancestry correct down to the fraction!

        http://ethnicelebs.com/johnny-depp

        gothamette

        April 6, 2017 at 1:23 pm

      • Carol King. One of the top ten greatest songwriters of the last century. No exaggeration. A completely separate league from Manilow.

        Curle

        April 6, 2017 at 3:27 pm

  9. Ethnicelebs is quite good:

    http://ethnicelebs.com/barry-manilow

    Manilow is 3/4 Jewish and 1/4 Irish. His father’s mother was Anna Sheehan. In those days it was VERY weird for such an intermarriage.

    gothamette

    April 5, 2017 at 2:04 pm

  10. These things always crack me up. How did your generation not know manilow, elton john, freddy mercury, and george michael were gay. I’ve watched their videos and it’s the gayest stuff I’ve ever seen. Granted, everyone under the age of 25 today sounds gay to me so I guess gaydar needs to be re-calibrated.

    everybodyhatesscott

    April 5, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    • Gay is about what you do with your penis and not your sartorial choices.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 5, 2017 at 2:59 pm

      • tell that to quintin crisp.

        Sorry but there clearly is a nexus, despite the media trying to pretend otherwise.

        Lion o' the Turambar

        April 5, 2017 at 4:23 pm

      • Common lion you actually denied that there are behavioral pattern that correlate with gay culture ?

        eyaldavid

        April 5, 2017 at 4:38 pm

      • It’s worth exploring from a scientific data-driven viewpoint, but I doubt anyone will do that.

        But I assure you that not ALL men who like flamboyant clothes and loungey-type music are gay.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 5, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    • Who the heck watches Barry Manilow videos?

      Hermes

      April 5, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    • I don’t think all that many people were surprised to learn that any of these musicians was gay.

      One difference between the 1980s — let’s say — and today, is that men who had certain gay traits but choose to present themselves as straight were sort of allowed to do so, i.e. people weren’t necessarily taken in, but they were more reluctant to openly question the ruse. At that time homosexuality was much more broadly viewed as something that should be kept discreet. It was an early manifestation of the “don’t ask; don’t tell” approach.

      Ice Hole

      April 5, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    • Calling someone gay back then was ‘fighting words’, something you didn’t say casually if the circumstances suggested you were serious. It could cause enormous damage to a person’s life and since many gays were and are pleasant people why cause them unnecessary pain by spreading rumors? So, there was a self imposed protocol to assume the best. This changed when gay (bi?) men started infecting unsuspecting women with AIDS and the elites came down hard on growing anti gay attitudes in response.

      Curle

      April 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    • Nah, I can tell you my son and his friends who all play high school sports and none of the guys give off the gay vibe. Athletes don’t seem gay. And very few are.

      no too late

      April 9, 2017 at 10:00 pm

  11. It was one of the lead items on the BBC news at six tonight. I couldn’t understand it, because he’d married a man a few years ago, but it is apparently the first time he has ‘officially’ stated that he is gay. Personally, I would have thought such an announcement was superfluous after you’ve already married a man. Maybe this will lead to a re-evaluation of some of his lyrics. A bit like when you discovered Elton John was gay, and then thought back to when Elton John sang ‘don’t go breaking my heart’ and Kiki Dee replied, quite correctly, ‘I couldn’t if I tried’.

    Meanwhile, the attack in St Petersburg has completely fallen off the news radar after only a few days.

    prolier than thou

    April 5, 2017 at 2:34 pm

  12. It’s funny how you’d never suspect Tom Jones or Engelbert Humpachink or Frankie Valli of being gay, but everyone always knew Manilow was. By the way, I used to work with a guy who said he penetrated Elton John at a club in West Hollywood. Not your usual top – skinny, maybe 135 pounds.

    Mel Belli

    April 5, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    • Did he just work that into the conversation over the morning coffee break?

      Roli

      April 5, 2017 at 7:14 pm

  13. Copacabana is great! It was used to prime effect in “Foul Play” Goldie Hawn is being pursued by bad guys and gets help from a denizen of the night club, Dudley Moore. He gets the wrong idea and is a bit of a perv (at least by 1978 standards). He is a recurring character but is at his best in this, the first scene he is in.

    dbp

    April 5, 2017 at 3:50 pm

  14. “All I remember is running home from school so I wouldn’t get beat up.”

    Beat up BY WHO BARRY, BY WHO????

    peterike

    April 5, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    • Probably the Puerto Rican kids.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 5, 2017 at 6:03 pm

      • When I was about 12 y/o, I got jumped and beat up by two older Puerto Ricans.

        E. Rekshun

        April 5, 2017 at 6:11 pm

      • Speaking of, going off my anecdotal impression, PRs are the ethnicity most likely to be gay. And PR gays are the most effeminate, too. No idea why that is.

        snorlaxwp

        April 6, 2017 at 12:39 am

  15. I suspect that musicians have a higher rate of homosexuality than the general public. Many male musicians seem a little bit effeminate, especially the skinny and ’80s glam rockers and some of the gangsta-rappers. And more than a few have dies of AIDS.

    I don’t know why the MSM never pursued the fact that Magic Johnson is gay (or more accurately bi-sexual) and that’s clearly the reason he contracted HIV. Is it because he’s black (and likeable) and the MSM does not want seem to be attacking a black man (that want to remain in the closet)?

    E. Rekshun

    April 5, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    • I think it’s at least as likely that he got HIV by sharing steroid or meth needles. He was famous as a guy who partied all night, so he’d need juicing of some kind to maintain his level of play. Do you realize that not a single pro basketball player of any real ability has ever been identified as gay? That Collins guy obvious!y wouldn’t count.

      tiny blades

      April 5, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    • I believe in comparison to white men, black men stand a much higher chance of contracting HIV from heterosexual sex.

      Roli

      April 5, 2017 at 7:18 pm

      • Roli — Surveys show that whites have lower rates of homosexuality than blacks, hispanics and asians. But that non-whites are more prejudiced against homosexuals. Due to the prejudice by family and others in their communities, non-whites are more likely to hide it and less likely to get tested and use precautions. As a result, non-whites have a higher chance of transmitting AIDS through homosexual contact not lower.

        http://www.gallup.com/poll/158066/special-report-adults-identify-lgbt.aspx

        destructure

        April 6, 2017 at 8:51 am

  16. What, people actually care about Barry Manilow one way or the other?

    Anthony

    April 5, 2017 at 11:42 pm

  17. I can remember a lot of people expressing a visceral disgust for Manilow, without mentioning the possibility of his homosexuality. Likewise with Bruce Jenner, before he went trans. I think that they sensed something was wrong, even if they could not say exactly what.

    Roger

    April 5, 2017 at 11:56 pm

  18. Lion, you’re a Fanilow.

    Camlost

    April 6, 2017 at 9:48 am

    • No, I wouldn’t say that. I don’t hate Barry, but I haven’t listened to his stuff in a really long time.

      • The ” gay because wrong orifice theory” is ludicrous. I would guess that maybe 40-45% of hetero couples partake in a*** more than once in their life and 30%+ fairly regularly. It’s more common than u think. And I am not talking porn, but regular couples.

        Wt

        April 6, 2017 at 10:54 am

      • “30%+ fairly regularly.”

        Lots of short time experimenters, sure. But, I’d bet the number of heteros who do this regularly drops down to the low single digits after they (the heteros) do it a few times and get over the novelty. It seems a bit like pot. Lots of people did it for a short period of time, but there’s a huge drop off after an initial trial period. Only 6% of the population 12 or older use pot in any given month and of that number a high percentage represents use by the young.

        Curle

        April 7, 2017 at 7:38 am

  19. Lion, I hate to break it to you about Ricky Martin too but…

    The truth!

    April 6, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    • He’s just livin’ la vida loca!

      E. Rekshun

      April 6, 2017 at 11:00 pm


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