Lion of the Blogosphere

Attack on Syria!

The MSM was complaining that Trump wasn’t doing anything about Syria.

How can they complain now that Trump launched 50-60 cruise missiles at a Syrian airbase? (And such a course of action is exactly what Hillary Clinton said that Trump should do.)

Yet the talking heads on Trump-hating CNN don’t seem especially happy.

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My own personal opinion is that the correct way to punish Bashar al-Assad is to personally attack him with chemical weapons so that he dies the same horrible death he inflicted on others. Now that would send a strong message to other world leaders and scare the sh** out of any who are thinking about using banned chemical weapons.

Blowing up stuff at an airbase kills a lot of schmucks who are just grunts stuck in military service because they’re not allowed to quit, and who didn’t have any part in making the decision to use chemical weapons.

It should also be pointed out that the military personnel are disproportionately the more secular types of Syrians, while the target of Assad’s chemical weapons attack was most likely Tahrir al-Sham, formerly known as the Al-Nusra Front, who are a branch of Al-Queda.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 6, 2017 at EST pm

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  1. Seriously disappointing if Kushner and Priebus make this the fourth Bush term, as it’s presently looking like.

    Silver lining in this is it’s hard to keep claiming Trump is controlled by secret Russian conspiracies.

    snorlaxwp

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Incorrect. I just got back from Huffington Post. They are not swayed.

      Stealth

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Assad’s chemical weapons attack

      This hasn’t been proven. We don’t even know if it was a chemical “attack”. Could be a chemical weapons cache was unknowingly hit releasing the gas.

      If this was Assad it was the dumbest move ever.

      He’s winning his war with Russian support. He doesn’t need this.

      Rifleman

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • You really think any of the “but Russia” folks really care? Trump alienated his base to appease folks that will NEVER support him or treat him fairly. r/TheDonald is going crazy right now censoring and banning people because of all the anti Trump posts.

      PerezHBD

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

  2. This shows that the Cathedral is truly in control and has always been in control. Bannon and Miller (and a few fellow travelers like Sessions) did their best to try and bring about real change. It’s impossible. USG can’t be reformed. Time to break up America.

    JerseyGuy

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Agreed. This is very disappointing.

      Dain

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Bannon is no picnic. He’s one of the big forces behind the health care bill and tax cuts that the country can’t afford.

      Even with immigration, he’s also too stupid and/or corporatist to realize that going after employers would not only be self financing but also completely dull left wing criticism of immigration enforcement and instead wants super costly mass deportations (aka left wing photo ops).

      Breitbart is truly insane and repulsive website.

      Which is not to say that Kusher, who seems to be everything you would expect from a lifelong democrat jewish multimillion dollar heir harvard alumnus, is any better

      Magnavox

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Bannon is no picnic. He’s one of the big forces behind the health care bill and tax cuts that the country can’t afford.

        How do you know Bannon’s positions on the health care bill and taxes?

        Breitbart is truly insane and repulsive website.

        Better than Huff Po, slate, salon, vox, mic, or a hundred other lefty or neo con or true con sites.

        Rifleman

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Better than Huff Po, slate, salon, vox, mic, or a hundred other lefty or neo con or true con sites.

        I can’t stomach any of those sites either so I can’t really do a detailed comparison but I have read at least something I liked from all those sites except mic, which I’ve never heard of. I have never seen anything worthwhile on breitbart and a very high portion of what I’ve seen is really awful.

        Magnavox

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • What is awful on Breitbart?

        DataExplorer

        April 7, 2017 at EST pm

      • The United States is the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the history of mankind. It has no need to tax and there is no reason why it cannot provide reasonable healthcare to every citizen. Honestly, I don’t understand how anyone believes this nonsense anymore. Obviously, sovereign nations don’t need to tax to raise revenue. The exclusive right to create money is one of the few universal definitions of money. The same libertarians who whine about “counterfeiting” can’t seem to grasp why the Secret Service exists and has existed in every nation in history, and why counterfeiting historically is a crime equivalent to treason.

        Hell, even Plato in Laws states this. Possession of foreign currency is also treason according to him!

        Helmut Schmidt

        April 8, 2017 at EST pm

  3. None of us Trump voters support this action in Syria. Trump ran on a platform where he pledged non-intervention and spoke out against past regime-change endeavors. He has betrayed his base and fell for the neocon narrative and unsubstantiated claims about this so-called chemical attack from Assad (real or fake, why do we have to get involved?). I am rescinding all support I had for the president. No more American blood for muslims.

    donna baby

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Agreed. Trump has proven himself to be an idiot.

      johnBeck

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • There’s no denying it. Even Scott Adams got burned.

        http://blog.dilbert.com/post/159264981001/the-syrian-gas-attack-persuasion

        steve@steve.com

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Yep. Scott Adams was totally wrong this time.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Yep. Scott Adams was totally wrong this time.

        I don’t agree, not yet anyway.

        Scott Adams -“I don’t think we’ll ever know what’s going on over there. But I think we can rule out the idea that Assad decided to commit suicide-by-Trump.”

        I agree with this. Hard to believe Assad did this. It benefits him in NO way.

        It benefits ONLY his enemies.

        Rifleman

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Trump ran on a message of security for Americans. The Syrian situation inarguably comprises one of the most serious threats to the security of the US and Europe. The North Korean problem, the Iranian problem and the Russian problem are not far behind in terms of threats to our security.

        So by one simple, controlled act, a message has been sent to all our problems – don’t f–k with us.

        And the only “boots on the ground” are likely those of the unfortunate caretaker where the strike took place.

        Oh ye of little faith……

        gda

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

  4. Terrible decision.

    Peterike

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  5. Three things: true, seriously disappointing: no, it won’t dissuade the media from Trump hate; I assume Assad learned something from Saddam’s fate, so you won’t be able to target him personally.

    Foreign policy makes Presidents feel presidential, soo we can kiss our hoped-for Wall goodbye.

    Marty

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • I admit I’m disappointed too. But it’s hard to withstand the pressure when virtually everyone in both parties is hankering for war in Syria. For what reason, I’m not sure. But the media and Democrats will love any Trump military action because after it’s started good, they can criticize Trump on it over and over. Bush wrecked the Republican Party because of Iraq, so I hope Trump doesn’t grease the skids for the Democrats in 4 years over some stupid military action that the Democrats goaded him into.

      Mike Street Station

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Did the MSM really want an attack on Syria? Not just the trucons?

      Magnavox

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  6. This is going to sound callous in the extreme, but so what if kids die? They’re dying of starvation, torture, rape, and disease by the thousands. Why do we have to do something about these and not the others?

    The whole thing is a complete and utter scam. It is exactly like the fake Iraqi throwing babies out of incubators propaganda that led to the first Iraq war. Every war the US has fought after WW2 has been fake war, meaning a war fought for one reason when the real reason was something else.

    ASF

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  7. why are chemical weapons seen as uniquely evil anyway? i dont get it. why is dropping a bunch of conventional bombs on somebody somehow morally better than killing them with gas?

    anyone who supports this is off their rocker. this is a fundamental betrayal of trump’s most ardent supporters and the people who got him where he is now.

    james n.s.w

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • I agree it’s not really logical. Using nukes against the Japanese is some sort of “never again” terrifying act, but we killed more people firebombing Tokyo. Nobody cares about that.

      Mike Street Station

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • The animus against chemical weapons is small minded and irrational. Landmines and cluster bombs are much worse because so much of their costs are born after the war itself and don’t go towards actually ending the conflict.

      Magnavox

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  8. This missile strike was good for two reasons. It shows that Trump is both decisive and is not in bed with the Russians. It sends a strong message. Now, if he escalates this further into a ground war it will be disastrous. Hopefully he knows better than to do that.

    B.T.D.T.

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • F that. If he did this to show that he is not in bed with the Russians, then he has played their game and thus he has lost. He will now always be subject to both deep state (media, etc) manipulation of him, in general, and of foreign policy. They will not let up. They may change their strategy slightly, but their efforts should intensify after this should this theory be the reason. In actuality, the reason needs to have been better than that.

      Dave

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  9. His presidency is effectively over. He just outright betrayed all the people who truly supported him. He will uselessly flail around for three more years while the US slides into fiscal crisis.

    bobbybobbob

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  10. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    Was there a gas attack? What gas was used? Could the Jihadis have actually done this attack themselves, either 1) to discredit Assad, or 2) just have the damn operation blow up in their own face. Granted the attack came from Assad’s forces, specifically, who ordered the attack (if there even was one).

    Who needs to answer questions when you can just wing it.

    Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

    The alt-right made Trump, the alt-right can break Trump.

    Daniel

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Allegedly, Sarin was the gas, and not the terrorists couldn’t have done this to themselves because they didn’t have any Sarin.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Isn’t sarin easy to make? e.g. the Japanese subway attack.

        snorlaxwp

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Smart Japanese terrorists were able to manufacture it, but there aren’t any smart Japanese people in Syria.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • Never discount a false flag. And if it was an authentic Syrian attack, who cares? It wouldn’t be worth going to war over even if the Russians weren’t involved.

        Stealth

        April 6, 2017 at EST pm

      • People were buzzing about “Sarin” in the initial reports. It’s basically the only exotic scary chemical weapon people can name. Like Adams, I suspect bullshit.

        steve@steve.com

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • Allegedly, Sarin was the gas, and not the terrorists couldn’t have done this to themselves because they didn’t have any Sarin.

        Sarin is fairly easy for a small group of terrorists, or a lone serial killer, to create in a lab.

        But they didn’t have the ability to deliver it from a bomber. Only Assad’s government has a native airforce.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • If Assad’s Syrians are smart enough to make sarin, non-Assad Syrians are smart enough too.

        snorlaxwp

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • The terrorists captured over half of Syria. Anything the regieme had, they have.

        PerezHBD

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • Here’s the most comprehensive report that I can find on the matter.

        The report comes from the Turkey Health Ministry. Do you really trust the Turks?

        Here is the evidence for Sarin adduced by the Turks from autopsies on three of the victims.

        “The Turkish statement did not elaborate on how the sarin had been identified in the assault on Tuesday, but it said some of the telling symptoms seen in the victims included “lung edema, increase in lung weight and bleeding in lungs.”

        That’s it. C’mon, couldn’t lots of gaseous agents cause such symptoms? Gaseous agents that Jihadis could manufacture themselves? The Jihadis have shown themselves to be quite resourceful in managing complex processes.

        And no, I don’t think that Trump, the CIA or the National Security Council has any more information than what was reported by the Turks and relayed to the New York Times. Odds are, Trump got conned. And if he did, I turn my back on him. He was supposed to be the un-stupid one.

        Also get this,
        “Asked whether Syria would present proof that it was not involved in the attack, Mr. Moallem responded, “How am I supposed to go to Khan Sheikhoun if it’s held by Al Nusra?””

        How the hell can you prove the negative here. This is similar to the same ultimatums that Bush forced upon Saddam Hussain. Prove that you don’t have chemical weapons, Saddam. We see where that has gotten us.

        Daniel

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • Not this HBD BS of Arabs being stupid. AQ Khan has the acumen to make nuclear weapons. How come a few Arabs cannot be good enough chemists? Why not, for instance, Saudi or Turkish intelligence having some laboratories to make sarin and using it in a false flag?

        Black_Rose

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • If Assad’s Syrians are smart enough to make sarin, non-Assad Syrians are smart enough too.

        The rebels have no airforce to deliver.

        They’ve been losing ground against Assad and the Russians wouldn’t let them operate any planes or bases with their Russian planes operating in Syria.

        Besides the army monitored the plane that delivered the Sarin take off from one of Assad’s airbases.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 7, 2017 at EST pm

    • It’s fairly hard to manufacture sarin, because the precursors are banned and they are industrial chemicals, that you just can’t easily make in a lab due to the conditions required. And even then it’s hard to manufacture enough of a pure sarin and/without poisoning yourself.

      The Tokyio attack was a total failure, because even their (I believe PhD) expert couldn’t do it right, with only 30 % pure Sarin that likely smelled of HF (useless).

      bombexpert

      April 8, 2017 at EST pm

  11. I don’t want the neocons taking over and starting another war. But bombing a runway with a few planes seems like a fairly mild response if Assad attacked civilians with chemical weapons. That’s just a shot across the bow to tell them to cut it out.

    If Trump hadn’t done it then everyone would have thought he was a chump like Obama, Bad actors around the world would have started causing trouble. So this isn’t just a warning to Assad. It’s also a warning to Iran, North Korea, Russia and China.

    I think it was a good call. That doesn’t mean I support invading Syria. But so far I’m pleased with the measured response. People losing their shit over this need to take a valium and calm down.

    destructure

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Geez, thank goodness for some sane comment. There’s been a lot of crazy talk.

      There will be no American boots on the ground (cough, as such, cough).

      And here’s how it works. The safe zone will be bankrolled by the Saudis and other gulf states. Egypt and Jordan will provide the ground security. The US temporarily (I know, I know) will provide “big stick” protection for the no-fly zone (generally from offshore) – which it then will pass on to the Jordanian and Egyptian air force once things calm down sufficiently. Russia will keep their bases and influence over the Alawite State, provided Bashar goes. The refugee problem, and hence the US security problem, goes away, or is severely retarded.

      I notice no one has mentioned the timing of the strike – just as he was saying goodnight to his Chinese guests. Brilliant!

      gda

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

    • Finally, a drop of lucidity.

      driveallnight

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

  12. Annnndddd…. it’s over. I have lost all hope. He has become a puppet of the military industrial complex. Shit, I figured it would take at least six months. The southern hemisphere is looking better and better.

    Stealth

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

  13. Why would Assad use chemical weapons when the war was in the bag and he knew America would intervene?

    This is fucking bullshit, another Libya situation incoming because the US funded rebels and finally came in for the killing blow after years of doing that.

    Fucking Trump did nothing different.

    Kaz

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • Oh not it’s not. I don’t recall the Russian military being in Libya. We might be headed straight for Deep-shit-ville.

      Stealth

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

  14. I share the disappointment of the commenters in the outcome (as it is a crazy action to do) but I think it was the right decision politically for Trump in the short-term:
    1) The mass hysteria about Russia and nutjob left-wing conspiracy theories is choking the life out of any media coverage that Trump could use to improve his favorables
    2) His approval rating with independents have plummeted and Conservatives (mainly because of AHCA) making him uniquely vulnerable to cucks right now (see the new funding issues the wall is having)
    3) His core supporters who are low-information as starting to see him as weak and not a “strong leader” which is super dangerous given the thirst of the establishment to remove him

    Unless he takes the wind out of the sails of the above 3, he can’t succeed on immigration or trade or other areas that I actually care about. If this is the price of enforcing the border, then I have to hold my vomit for now

    Lets hope and pray Syria is nothing but a wag-the-dog type ploy and not a genuine conversion to full-scale Bushism

    V

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • I think it was the right decision politically for Trump in the short-term

      Let’s stop pretending. Trump is a dud.

      Stealth

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

  15. This the 2nd time Assad was blamed for a chemical attack. The first time, it was proven that the actual terrorists did it not the regular army. This time, Trump decided not to wait for any proof. Business as usual. Not that I care one way or another.

    PS Terrorists have plenty of everything, are you really that delusional ? They are well supplied by at least three local powerhouses: Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar

    Nice blog, dude

    April 6, 2017 at EST pm

    • They have actual real time video surveillance of the sarin being prepped, loaded in the planes, the planes taking off, flying to the town, dropping the sarin, and people dying. Will that convince you?

      Get a grip, and trust in Trump. I’m seeing a lot of never-Trump trolls around here trying to harsh my buzz.

      gda

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

      • I am no never-Trumper and I do not troll, at least not around here. But I am not drinking Trump’s cool-aid. He is a clown because he keeps acting like a clown. As for you presumed evidence of “planes flying, soldiers dying”, I am willing to bet a thousand bucks straight up that you have none.

        Nice blog, dude

        April 7, 2017 at EST am

  16. I am extremely disappointed.

    My only hope is that the cruise missile strike was a one time warning. If it’s the start of a regime change, then we will have elected Trump for jack.

    Sid

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  17. I’m disappointed by the reactions here.

    The US political establishment is committed to getting rid of Assad, as are important US allies like Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, Jordan and Egypt. In politics, you have to choose your battles.

    Assad crossed, or maybe (but probably didn’t really) cross a US red line. Trump responded decisively but ultimately meaninglessly. Message sent.

    If he sends it US troops, THAT will be a betrayal, but there is no indication he plans to do so. Furthermore, Tillerson indicated yesterday that defeating ISIS, not removing Assad, was the top priority.

    People really need to look at the big picture here. The Obamacare stuff, that was an own goal, but this shit here is just the price of doing business.

    We need to keep our eyes on the big picture: the destruction of the immigrant community. That is the ONLY thing that matters and we are making progress on that front, even though it isn’t as rapid as we would have hoped.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

    • Well said as usual.

      Regarding the rate of progress, I think it’s been limited by slow confirmations as well as sabotage and obstruction. I also think he needs to get at least two justices confirmed. He’ll need a solid majority to prevent activist judges from pulling crap.

      destructure

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

  18. I wouldn’t be surprised if no one was killed in the strikes. The Trump admin told the Russians ahead of time, to prevent them from getting killed. And they almost certainly told the Syrians to evacuate the base, which was struck overnight local time.

    Dave Pinsen

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  19. lol at the hysteria. Repeating what I said on Steve Sailer’s blog:

    Wars aren’t the problem. Endless, unwinnable occupations with massive casualties are.

    It’ll serve paleos well if they stop pretending they don’t realize this. The median Trump supporter is a Tom Cotton, not a Daniel Larison or Scott McConnell. Act accordingly.

    IHTG

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

    • They aren’t pretending, they really don’t get it. They are delusional idiots who think that Ron Paul would win 50 states.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 7, 2017 at EST am

    • Exactly.

      As long as Trump stays with missile strikes, what’s the problem?

      I cannot believe these babies shitting their diapers over a goddamn missile strike.

      Let’s all calm down and enjoy the show. The fireworks in Syria, and the alt-right losing what remains of its mind. (Well, they never had a mind to begin with.)

      gothamette

      April 7, 2017 at EST pm

    • Wrong. Americans are emphatically done with this meddling and policing in the middle east. Too many have woken up to the lies and know what it’s really about.

      bobbybobbob

      April 7, 2017 at EST pm

      • As long as American troops don’t die, the American public doesn’t give a rats ass. Paultards and Berners care, but what those people think doesn’t matter.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 8, 2017 at EST am

  20. “My own personal opinion is that the correct way to punish Bashar al-Assad is to personally attack him with chemical weapons so that he dies the same horrible death he inflicted on others”

    My own personal opinion is that the entire chemical attack was a fraud. Fake incidents with fake films are created in the Middle East constantly. If you haven’t seen them, and seen the evidence of them, and seen the ‘staged’ appearance of them, you aren’t paying attention (spend a bit of time googling them. One, in particular, that I remember from years ago: Some Middle East freedom fighters were photographed aiming through a hole in a wall. A different perspective of the hole showed that it faced another wall. Can’t remember the details-where or when-now). This looks exactly like those. Its cheaply done, the crying is obviously fake, one of the dead kids opens her eyes, the film details (how do we know its a chemical attack? the thick white powder all over everything, of course.). Just crap. And poorly done, obviously contrived crap.

    anon

    joeyjoe

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  21. This is troubling but, really, what could Trump do? The lead-in was imagery of children being hit with Sarin gas.

    America is an effeminate culture. There is a limit to how many alt-right messages Trump can project.

    1) Callous indifference to this gets played negatively.

    2) A wait-and-see investigation makes him look weak and callous. Besides, what investigation would lead to any other conclusion but Syria using Sarin gas? The media is not on his side. Time will not remove this from the new cycle.

    3) He is in no position to accuse the Deep State of a false flag event. He can’t claim that no Syrians were killed by Sarin, or the attacks never happened, or some other entity is responsible. Sure, we can argue that ISIS is controlled by CIA, or at least tacitly supported, but Trump can’t do that.

    Bombing that base was, really, the only reasonable course of action to take, given the circumstances.

    map

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

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  23. Lets admit it , we put are hopes on a buffoon. The left won the war a lot time ago .

    eyaldavid

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  24. Trump just wakes up one morning and decides it’s his job to prevent Arabs from killing each other?

    His responsibility is to the people who elected him. His job is not sacrifice his country (whites are losing in the war in America) on behalf of foreign/enemy people who always have and always will be killing each other.

    This is a terrible mistake. A huge cave-in to the neocons and the media.

    fakeemail

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  25. Christ Almighty — not lobbing bombs at Syria was a no-brainer. The entirety of the USA (apart from a few neocons) is weary of Middle Eastern wars.

    My opinion of Trump has plummeted. His thin skin makes renders him easily manipulated by whatever counsel is currently in his favor (and those are constantly changing).

    SWPL2

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

  26. Trump was always something of a gamble and I think most on the right were aware of his deficiencies, but attacking on a whim like this does bring into sharp relief some of Trump’s most worrying personality traits.

    The way he said he had totally changed his mind about Assad just because he had seen some dead CNN babies on his television just makes it seem like his previous opinion of the Syrian dictator was shallow and insubstanital, and that he is easily swayed. It raises the horrible spectre of Trump presiding like a vain Emporer, blowing this way and that, depending on the way he feels when he wakes up.

    I’m not an American and I don’t know if there is any significance to the fact that Bannon resigned from the NSC recently. Are these events connected? Is Trump going ‘the full Bush’?

    prolier than thou

    April 7, 2017 at EST am

    • Wherever you are from, it is almost certain that Americans don’t know a thing about what is going on there or in the gov’t there, nor do we know a thing about Syria or Assad. It is all BS.

      no too late

      April 7, 2017 at EST pm

  27. I think that from today on, Assad must hide from american satellites eyes, and live in a Bunker mode, like Osama, Saddam, Abou Bakr , Ayman etc. His life has certainly changed completely because of this attack from almost no risk to absolute risk.

    Bruno from Paris

    April 7, 2017 at EST pm

  28. Assad may be an a hole but he is not the real problem in Syria. The wacko extremist rebels are the problem, just like in Palestine and the rest of the ME.

    no too late

    April 7, 2017 at EST pm


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