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Blue collar men’s room

Today I had the pleasure of using the men’s room in a warehouse that’s not open to the general public. In the men’s room there was a big pin-up poster of a young woman wearing only lingerie.

I found it amusing that blue collar men who work in warehouses are allowed to look at that when they use the bathroom, while men who work in white-collar offices in Manhattan have to pretend that they are eunuchs.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 10, 2017 at 2:40 pm

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  1. She was wearing lingerie? Clearly this is a blue collar men’s room patronized by the older generation.

    gothamette

    April 10, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    • Or maybe that’s all that the business owner, who lives in Manhattan, would allow.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      • We’re you taking a piss at Yakov’s HVAC repair shop?

        DdR

        April 10, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    • I’m hetero as they come, but I don’t get the appeal of erotic themed art in a toilet.

      Err wait, maybe I do …

      Maj

      April 10, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    • Blue collar-prole men get less play in today’s society, hence erotica at the workplace.

      JS

      April 10, 2017 at 11:17 pm

      • Blue collar men getting less play is mostly their own fault. If a carpenter or auto mechanic is planning on dating a college educated woman, who is delusional? Blue collar workers could easily find lots and lots of picks among walmart cashiers or mcDonalds cooks but noooo sir, they gotta date the mediCal receptionist. People need to stick with their own class.

        Wt

        April 11, 2017 at 4:56 pm

  2. Shhhhh!! Don’t let on, or soon the feminist hags will be demanding bathroom searches at auto-body shops and plumbing supply houses.

    peterike

    April 10, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    • You mean they haven’t lined up to work at these places already? Is someone keeping it a secret from them that there are fantastic traditionally male jobs to be had? What gives?

      Dave

      April 11, 2017 at 5:43 am

      • its because they dont wanna be around a bunch of gross proles all day

        gm

        May 7, 2017 at 5:03 pm

  3. The Obama administration wanted to turn the military into a white-collar workplace, but fighting is blue collar work. Obama’s people didn’t even understand blue collar work.

    Dan

    April 10, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    • Any citation? Haven’t heard this one before.

      Gavin

      April 10, 2017 at 4:19 pm

      • I’ve been in the Navy almost two decades. I’m not sure it’s simply an Obama administration effort, but I can certainly attest that if we found such a poster on the ship, even in the male berthing, it would certainly be taken down, and there would almost certainly be disciplinary action taken against whoever posted it. I’m not necessarily convinced this is a bad thing (from a good order and discipline perspective) but the idea that the military wants to exist as a white collar environment if spot-on. That such an approach might negatively affect warfighting wouldn’t cross the organization’s collective mind, and if it did, wouldn’t faze them in the slightest since being right on gender-integration far outweighs concerns about warfighting. Or, to put it another way, the organization has drank the kool-aid and thinks that the number one component to warfighting readiness is being on the right side of the gender-equalists and other social fads.

        Milestone D

        April 10, 2017 at 8:40 pm

      • Hey Milestone D- Is it true that a shockingly large percentage of women on Navy ships become pregnant?

        steve@steve.com

        April 10, 2017 at 10:29 pm

      • “Hey Milestone D- Is it true that a shockingly large percentage of women on Navy ships become pregnant?”

        I heard years ago that it is true. And it’s easy to see why. I mean it’s not like the women on these ships can do something really interesting – like read Lion’s blog.

        And here is an interesting question: which do most of you prefer – a really great LOTB topic thread and it’s various posts or a night of good sex? I mean in a situation where it/s completely either/or – Lion’s blog OR sex – not sex while reading the blog or ……(even more interesting for the few ladies who post here) sex WITH Lion. My own answer would be: Lion beats a good lay any day!

        Maryk

        April 10, 2017 at 11:49 pm

      • Statistically … no. Female pregnancy rates for enlisted sailors roughly match public rates for the demographics the navy tends to recruit from. While the official policy is that pregnancy and sea duty are compatible, pregnancy means the woman is no longer fit for sea duty and must be transferred ashore. This creates the appearance that lots of female sailors get pregnant, mostly because replacements are not necessarily readily available. (For example, my ship’s Navigator just got pregnant and the billet is now gapped) As to why female sailors get pregnant, my sense is that it happens for the same reasons it does anywhere else – a combination of careless sex and the normal female desire towards motherhood. A few years ago, a picture circulated of a couple of female Air Force officers nursing babies while in uniform – caused a bit of a stir with the typically overused label of “unprofessional” tossed around for general effect. Personally, I concluded the stir was due to the latent cognitive dissonance between warrior and maternity in the same image. I’ve come full circle with respect to women in the navy during my career. My first ship was all male (we called it a 2.0 ship – as in average balls per sailor) and I was thankful not to be assigned to a mixed gender ship. My subsequent ships had women onboard and I found that their presence wasn’t nearly as disruptive as expected. But now that I am a bit more senior and am thinking of not just the ship’s routine operations but it’s potential employment in combat, I’m starting to think that to a much greater extent than the men, the women onboard cannot be counted on to hold up in a fight. I mentioned that to a friend on a different ship – we both agreed this line of thinking certainly would be seen as thought-crime and that even if data supported my conclusions, the navy would rather lose ships than return to an all male combat fleet. The qualitative components of effective fighting forces in the past – esprit de corps, male bonding, etc. have been discarded wholesale in support of promoting a non-hostile work environment. If the navy ever has to ever really fight, I fear that the white collar approach might carry negative consequences.

        Milestone D

        April 11, 2017 at 12:07 am

      • a night of good sex

        Sex is vastly, vastly overrated.

        S.J., Esquire

        April 11, 2017 at 3:12 pm

      • “we both agreed this line of thinking certainly would be seen as thought-crime and that even if data supported my conclusions, the navy would rather lose ships than return to an all male combat fleet. The qualitative components of effective fighting forces in the past – esprit de corps, male bonding, etc. have been discarded wholesale in support of promoting a non-hostile work environment.”

        That was my impression of the Army as well. An effective fighting force came a distant second to gender equity goals. How that’s going to play out when we have fully integrated combat arms (as opposed to combat service support, which has been integrated for decades) seems painfully obvious to me. The Marines have already tested this and found mixed combat units…wanting. However they are going to be forced to integrate them just like the other services. Let’s hope we never fight another war.

        Ever.

        Mike Street Station

        April 12, 2017 at 8:33 am

      • The military is for fighting pathetic third world countries, not for fighting a real war against Russia or China.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 12, 2017 at 9:47 am

    • There is less affirmative action in blue collar work. I can understand how racially entitled minorities could have a psychological aversion to understanding blue collar work, entitlement always implying ever-more prestigious work.

      After all, the entitlement that tells you that the world would be run better, if only it realized the latent genius and equality of the African mind, would likely tend to devalue such work as being below the unrealized (or newly realized) station of minorities.

      Thus, the work may even be willfully misunderstood. After all, perhaps it was the close-minded whites who were merely operating the military incorrectly as a blue collar institution. It only took a few thousand years for an African president to arrive and correct that mis-perception of the reality of military life.

      When the War room is comprised of gender fluids, safe spaces, and consensus building monitored by diversity officers, will that mean that we have been defeated from within? Rhetorical question.

      Dave

      April 11, 2017 at 6:02 am

  4. Many years ago I worked in a factory two different summers. They had nothing like this in the men’s room.

    I would guess the men in this warehouse use to have pinups posted by their work locations, but they were forced to remove those, perhaps by women that worked in the warehouse. Now they are in the men’s room. If they are like the company that I currently work at that has women janitors that clean the men’s room, they will eventually be forced to remove the pinups there too.

    mikeca

    April 10, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    • Yep, hostile work environment suit waiting to happen.

      Maj

      April 10, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    • Who owns a private warehouse would have a lot to do with what art is feasible in the restroom. Is it a union warehouse? Which union? What are some other possibilities? I’m guessing that very few, if any, females have any chance of working there.

      Dave

      April 11, 2017 at 6:05 am

      • Why would a woman want a job that requires lifting heavy stuff?

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 11, 2017 at 6:37 am

      • Rhetorical question acknowledged, but…

        Because there are apparently no differences between women and men; an assumption that justifies shoe-horning women into high paying white collar positions and workplaces formerly run by men. So, cuz consistency. Amirite ladies…?

        Dave

        April 14, 2017 at 3:12 pm

  5. When I was in my early teens, I worked pumping gas and doing minor auto repairs at a Mobil gas station. The owner cut a peep hole into the ladies rest room. The workplace culture was a pretty gruff environment for a 13 y/o honor roll student with college aspirations. If my parents really knew all that went on, they certainly wouldn’t have let me work there (and they almost made me quit when I got robbed at knife point and beaten!). But they thought a high school freshman working for $2/hour under the table was something worthwhile to do after school and weekends.

    men who work in white-collar offices in Manhattan have to pretend that they are eunuchs. – Someone’s been talking to Yakov.

    E. Rekshun

    April 10, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    • Was it a schvarz?

      Explainer 21

      April 10, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    • “When I was in my early teens, I worked pumping gas”

      From all you’ve told us about your life in your many posts here, it wasn’t much longer before you were pumping more than gas……

      Sorry, E. Rekshun. Couldn’t resist.

      Maryk

      April 10, 2017 at 10:20 pm

      • LOL!

        E. Rekshun

        April 10, 2017 at 11:45 pm

    • I worked high rise construction one summer during college (early 80s) and a few times (exibitionist) women in adjoining buildings would come out naked on their patios to get our attention. One couple even put on a show for us once.

      Curle

      April 10, 2017 at 11:54 pm

  6. However, white-collar workers will be encouraged to post the soon-to-be-released nude pictures of Caitlyn Jenner.

    Mark Caplan

    April 10, 2017 at 4:56 pm

  7. Blue collar men are also not required to wear a collar *cough* I mean carry a smartphone so that their mother *cough* I mean boss, can henpeck them at all times of the day or night.

    These observations are the entire theme of the cult classic “Office Space” which if one hasn’t seen it, is required viewing for any white collar worker.

    jjbees

    April 10, 2017 at 4:57 pm

  8. Office workers are afraid to do anything even remotely offensive because they are too scared for their jobs. In turn, that’s because everyone wants to work in an office and there are vast numbers of fully qualified applicants for almost every opening. Warehouse work isn’t anywhere near as popular so the workers have greater job security.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    April 10, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    • If there are vast numbers of qualified applicants for almost every office job, then how do you stand out from the crowd when applying? How does HR decide who to hire? I’m talking, of course, about ordinary jobs not jobs for “fast track” people from selective colleges or TOOS backgrounds.

      Maryk

      April 10, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      • You have to know the right people. And HR doesn’t decide who to hire, they just screen out resumes.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 10, 2017 at 10:32 pm

      • If I ever become rich I’m using my money to run tons of controlled experiments to prove that hiring, beyond screening for basically qualified applicants, is mostly witchcraft.

        Not that I don’t think some workers are far more productive than others; I just don’t think that anything in current standard hiring practices identifies them more than random chance.

        Jokah Macpherson

        April 10, 2017 at 10:46 pm

      • “hiring, beyond screening for basically qualified applicants, is mostly witchcraft.”

        I heard that some guido named Sinatra used to sing about withcraft. For an Italian with an attitude the guy sure got hired a lot – singer, dancer, actor, He once wanted a certain acting job so badly that he offered to do it without getting paid. Ironically he played another guido names Maggio. He even won an Oscar for it.

        Maryk

        April 10, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      • It depends on what you are trying to get hired to. I know of one institution that gives you a fairly in-depth psych test that the company puts a lot of weight on.

        Dave

        April 11, 2017 at 6:09 am

    • Every guy wants to fuck hot women. That’s why no hot woman ever continues to sleep with an asshole long-term when she can just dump him for one of the inoffensive guys waiting their turn.

      Jokah Macpherson

      April 10, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    • I worked in a warehouse over college break once and it was one of the least stressful jobs I’ve ever had.

      Mike Street Station

      April 11, 2017 at 6:28 am

  9. I’m surprised this is allowed at all. All it will take is one female janitor to complain.

    Brendan

    April 10, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    • And all it takes is one threat to call “La Migra” and the janitrix shuts her boca.

      Njguy73

      April 10, 2017 at 11:32 pm

  10. In male-only (I’ll add — in my experience — white male only) white collar workplaces here in Flyoverville, similar locker room antics can still take place.

    What you need is a combination of a space that clients can’t enter and work where relationships/human capital are the biggest assets (i.e., work where many employees could hop to another firm and take all their clients with them), since management has to trade off the potential liability of a lawsuit with the risk of chasing off good employees by being buzz-kills.

    Wency

    April 10, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    • You are correct that the antics can still take place but none of the five requirements you list (male-only, white, Flyoverville, isolated workspace, relational capital) are even necessary.

      Jokah Macpherson

      April 10, 2017 at 10:38 pm

  11. You have to be careful. Not all blue collar men’s rooms are like this. Some of them, like the ones truckers frequent, often have lots of funny stuff going on in them if you catch my drift.

    Tom

    April 10, 2017 at 7:44 pm

  12. Only the proles are free

    anon

    April 10, 2017 at 8:24 pm

  13. In men’s rooms in France it’s not uncommon to see female staff cheerfully stocking the paper towels or mopping the floor while men casually relieve themselves at the urinals.

    roli

    April 10, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    • Muslim French need to rape them to teach them a sense of propriety.
      Same for debauched show of flesh on nude beaches.

      jjbees

      April 10, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    • So does one of the women cleaners at the Major Home Improvement Retailer where I work my second job.

      Peter

      ironrailsironweights

      April 10, 2017 at 11:12 pm

  14. It’s possible to get away with crazy shit in white collar jobs, too, even in an environment full of women. It’s the same principle as in game; the stronger frame wins. When you believe with 100% certainty that hot babes on your computer desktop and explicit sex banter is the normal, natural work environment, and convey this belief in a congruent manner, your mousy female co-workers will feel like they’re the ones who are acting weird and will buy into frame that you set.

    White collar folks, I suspect, tend to be more bought in to conformity to society’s values, though, so they’re less likely to attempt this sort of thing.

    Jokah Macpherson

    April 10, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    • It depends on if you have one female (or male even) that is stupid and doesn’t realize that a lawsuit or HR complaint might mean a short term fix or even a big payday, but it almost certainly means the end of their white collar employment anywhere, since no company wants to hire someone who sued their previous employer.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

      April 11, 2017 at 10:07 am

  15. Lion is trolling

    Yakov

    April 13, 2017 at 9:48 pm


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