Lion of the Blogosphere

Syria in perspective

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It has been six days since Trump bombed Syria. There’s no evidence that Trump has any intent of doing anything else in Syria. We let loose a few missiles, not a single American soldier was in the line of fire, and it’s not even clear that any Syrians were killed (although the Syrian government claims some were killed).

Trump still seems to have benefited immensely from the missile strike. The mainstream media has turned down the volume on the Russian Conspiracy by a huge amount. Most of the mainstream politicians whose support Trump needs to get anything done are very happy about the strike. Some Trump-haters in the media are expressing their exasperation that Trump has benefited so much from the strike. That’s how we know it was a good move for Trump. If it was bad for Trump, the Trump-haters would be gloating about it.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 12, 2017 at 7:39 pm

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  1. Trump is becoming Ronald Regan but with a hard-on for illegal immigrants. In Republican world this is a winning strategy.

    B.T.D.T.

    April 12, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    • I for one never voted for Trump so he could appease the media. I voted for him in part so he could fight it and thoroughly discredit it.

      Shawn Says

      April 14, 2017 at 8:37 am

  2. Scott Adams analysis seems to have been right, http://blog.dilbert.com/post/159300836386/the-syrian-air-base-attack.

    JW Bell

    April 12, 2017 at 8:12 pm

  3. It’s been fun watching segments of the alt right melt down over this. And over the fate of Steve Bannon, the co-founder of a pro-Zionist news site run by Jews (lol)

    IHTG

    April 12, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    • The alt-right reaction has been weird, although I take no particular joy in it. I can’t believe these people thought Trump would consistently do what they want. And yet they seem genuinely and bitterly disappointed, a real sense of betrayal. This evinces a disconnection with reality.

      They keep reminding ​each other that Trump is not really playing 4d chess. That’s true. They seem unable to recognise that he’s just pretty basic politics, with, as usual, a mix of positive and negative results.

      That said, there’s still a chance that Trump will escalate further in Syria. I think it’s unlikely, but, if it does happen, that could easily turn into a disaster.

      Greg Pandatshang

      April 13, 2017 at 12:07 am

    • The internet meltdown of the Alt Right is beautiful to behold.

      It is definitely time to formalize the split between the Ron Paul/Nazi wing and the more mainstream Alt Righters. The Ron Paul wing can go to Hell: they have never had any importance outside of blogs and social media. Us mainstream alt righters under the leadership of Jason Miller and Jeff Sessions will focus on the destruction of the immigrant community.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 13, 2017 at 10:41 am

      • “the Ron Paul/Nazi wing”

        Did I miss a large on line community, the libertarian fascists?

        Mike Street Station

        April 14, 2017 at 6:28 am

    • “It’s been fun watching segments of the alt right melt down…over the fate of Steve Bannon”

      At first I was troubled by the rift between Trump and Bannon. It’s comforting to think of Bannon whispering woke knowledge into the President’s ear, but Trump made a good point when said that he’s his own strategist and that Bannon isn’t his brain. After all, it was Trump himself who recognized that what American voters really want is The Wall and the destruction of the immigrant community. I think we’re going to be just fine.

      Horace Pinker

      April 13, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      • I would wait before proclaiming a true rift between Bannon and Trump. I don’t necessarily believe WaPo.

        But watching the alt-right meltdown has been wonderful. Trump is finally rid of these characters. And they can’t come crawling back, as the years pass and they are revealed as isolated crank loners.

        Good riddance to stinking rubbish.

        gothamette

        April 13, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    • as i said in a previous thread: the alt-right assumed a lot more people agree with them despite the fact they have fewer members than the libertarians.

      we’re talking about somewhere between 1-5% of the population that’s “alt-right.” most americans have never heard of richard spencer, or even david duke (who’s been around forever).

      • You’re being very generous at 1 to 5%. For a political movement that exists only online (no alt right PACS or political organizations) I would have guessed closer to 60K..tops.

        Mike Street Station

        April 14, 2017 at 6:30 am

    • Bannon has some kooky views but his domestic positions were his main draw. Andrew Breitbart was also the co-founder of HuffingtonPost (long before it became crap) and given that he was able to recreate his success with his own website proves he was the driving force behind the operation.

      However let’s not forget the mainstream media hated Trump from the beginning despite being wrong on almost major every issue related to him, the campaign, and his supporters. Give it a year before making any assessments of the Trump presidency. This commentator at Unz Review summarized my thoughts.

      “Initially, I felt betrayed by Trump’s missile strike as well. However, the strike seems to have been an isolated and relatively mild military action. Will anyone really remember this in a few years, or even in a few months? Many of those on the Alt Right are projecting their disdain and fear of a second Iraq war on to this event, and I think that’s off base.

      If early reports are to be believed, Trump has clearly given ICE a freer hand in cracking down on illegal immigration. Furthermore, by putting Carson at HUD and Sessions at the justice department, he has stopped the emerging bipartisan cuckservative/leftist effort to let violent blacks out of prison as part of so called “criminal justice reform,” and then forcibly integrate them into white neighborhoods through housing quotas in order to reduce so-called “neighborhood inequality.” That means fewer white people raped and murdered. So no, he’s not the “God Emperor,” but, flawed though he may be, he has done some good things for white people, if only by blocking the ability of the left to do them harm. We should not forget that.”

      Plus scrapping junk economics and the TPP but kosher nationalism must also be defeated. I was warning about Trump’s toxic relatives for months on end.

      redarmyvodka

      April 13, 2017 at 6:24 pm

  4. I also think it was a useful opportunity for elements of the alt-right to send a credible signal about their independence from Trump the man.

    tcjfs

    April 12, 2017 at 9:36 pm

  5. How has Trump got one inch closer to any of his 2016 state objectives? The wall needed to happen last month. Clearly it’s never going to happen now.

    Your analysis is stupid. Ooh, Trump shut the media up and certain dumb people think he looks stronger now. Even pretending that’s true, So What? Shutting the media up is not the goal here.

    bobbybobbob

    April 12, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    • POLITICS is about keeping some people happy even if you hate them and they hate you.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 12, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    • When the debt ceiling discussion hits, Trump will get everything he wants. He has nothing to lose and the elites have their global wealth value transference ponzi at stake. The debt ceiling will be raised (by just the right amount that only Trump knows – until he thinks his next round of political capital funding is needed – heh) and Trump will get everything he wants then. The wall will be overfunded so that we can build one around California if we need it later.

      Next year Jeff sessions will put a bunch of insurance execs in jail for price fixing and then healthcare costs will come down. Year 3 will be FDA reform where the food pyramid is scraped and paleo becomes the lay of the land. then $400B per year of diabetes related spending dissappears as our poisoned population begins to heal.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

      April 12, 2017 at 10:16 pm

      • I like the cut of your jib, patriot.

        Two in the Bush

        April 13, 2017 at 8:38 am

      • “It remains to be seeing whether this is a ‘show bombing’, altough even this goes against comments that Trump made on Twitter about Obama needing congressional approval before such a move. ”

        That’s the difference between being on the sidelines and being in the arena.

        gothamette

        April 13, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      • the $400b in type 2 diabetes spending is absurd. type 2 diabetes is only caused by massively over consuming carbs.

        as i’m typing this comment msnbc is reporting trump will NOT do tax reform until healthcare reform passes. looking forward to the reaction from the left and right when trump supports a public option in exchange for dumping obamacare.

    • The Wall is still in the works and more importantly, Trump is building a deportation machine as many outlets have reported today. Sessions and DHS have already begun on the destruction of the immigrant community and we are just getting ramped up.

      If you have a problem with Trump’s totally politically necessary move of doing a show bombing of a Syrian airbase, then you are paleocon scum and we don’t want your vote.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 12, 2017 at 10:31 pm

      • It remains to be seeing whether this is a ‘show bombing’, altough even this goes against comments that Trump made on Twitter about Obama needing congressional approval before such a move. And whether it was actually legal, as there was no act of agression against America by Syria. Peronally, I’d rather not live in a world where America can bomb countries literally on the whim of one man. That seems like America is heading in the wrong direction, and whilst you may not care about the results on this occasion (ISIS find it easier to operate in the area around Al Sharyat for a while, (rape a few kids and behead a few women for not having beards, yawn) perhaps there could be other bombings by other presidents in the future that would bother you.

        The best case scenario would be that this is like Reagan’s bombing of Tripoli in ’86; a one-off event. But the worry is that the world has changed since then. Reagan didn’t have the media and lobbyists wanting to push him further and further into war and Middle Eastern politics. We still don’t really know much about the way that Trump thinks, other than his childish and embarrassingly inarticulate stated defence of bombing the Syrian airstrip. But if Trump is flattered and puffed-up by being treated like Caeser returning to Rome after a successful mililtary campaign, then the concern is that he will change tack completely and focus on Imperial foreign-policy objectives. You really know for sure he can’t do this?

        prolier than thou

        April 13, 2017 at 2:55 am

      • I really know for sure I wouldn’t care.

        If you voted for Trump based on wanting an isolationist foreign policy, you are paleocon scum and we do not want your vote. Trumpism was always about the destruction of the immigrant community.

        ISIS can take over the entire middle east or be destroyed completely. Makes zero difference to me as long as the immigrant community is destroyed.

        I don’t care about the Constitution or “non aggression” and anybody who does can go to Hell. We don’t need your votes.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 13, 2017 at 8:48 am

      • The best case scenario would be that this is like Reagan’s bombing of Tripoli in ’86; a one-off event. But the worry is that the world has changed since then. Reagan didn’t have the media and lobbyists wanting to push him further and further into war and Middle Eastern politics.

        The point of the bombing from the perspective of national interest was to deter other rogue entities from thinking Syria’s liberal use of WMDs can become a routine policy.

        As a limited attack this was justifiable.

        If you voted for Trump based on wanting an isolationist foreign policy, you are paleocon scum and we do not want your vote. Trumpism was always about the destruction of the immigrant community.

        Trump did not run as an isolationist.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 13, 2017 at 6:19 pm

      • , Trump is building a deportation machine

        It is so beyond idiotic to deport large numbers of people and it ain’t gonna happen. I’ll only feel good when theres a self deportation machine. That’s the only realistic way to get rid of the people here.

        Trump did not run as an isolationist.

        He didn’t run as much of anything insofar as running on something means being consistent. The big issue he as the most consistent on was trade and outside of a few isolated and insignificant deals he’s been terrible on that too.

        Magnavox

        April 13, 2017 at 11:16 pm

      • It is so beyond idiotic to deport large numbers of people and it ain’t gonna happen. I’ll only feel good when theres a self deportation machine. That’s the only realistic way to get rid of the people here.

        Hmm, immigration enforcement….hmm, self deportation….hmm, cuck Bernie, yeah Bernie that’s the ticket. Serious man, Bernie. Single payer, yeah…Bernie, he’s the one.

        Andrew E.

        April 13, 2017 at 11:56 pm

      • “It is so beyond idiotic to deport large numbers of people and it ain’t gonna happen.”

        You are Paleocon/Libertarian scum.

        It is not idiotic to deport large numbers of people and it *IS* going to happen. We have an estimated 13 million illegals in the country, if we deport a million a year from the interior, something that is totally doable, it will not only encourage self deportation but it will discourage future illegal immigration. And indeed, illegal immigration is already way down.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 14, 2017 at 8:47 am

    • “The wall needed to happen last month.” lol

      IHTG

      April 13, 2017 at 4:43 am

      • Exactly, this is a massive infrastructure project costing billions of dollars, and tweedledee thinks it can be built overnight.

        Newsflash hotshot: it took a minimum of four years to PLAN for the new Tappan Zee bridge. Laguardia’s renovation probably was on the planning board for years.

        We’re talking about a massively long wall that would cross multiple state boundaries. Naturally environmentalists will have a hissy fit. This will take time, but the administration is already soliciting bids for construction and will hopefully have chosen a firm soon. Patience, which apparently nobody has in our Internet age.

        DdR

        April 13, 2017 at 8:47 am

      • It only took 18 months to build the Empire State Building, but that was back when stuff got done quickly.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 13, 2017 at 9:50 am

      • If we could build the Panama Canal and put a man on the moon, with 50yrs and 100yrs ago tech, we can build an effing wall.

        snorlax

        April 13, 2017 at 11:57 am

    • Lion’s analysis is terrible and has been for a while. He’s fixated by what the mainstream media says like a cuckservative. It began with his disdain for Pizza Gate so it was his commentators who clued him in on Jeffrey Epstein, Jimmy Saville, and other proven VIP pedophile rings.

      Then his support for the removal of Flynn which only encouraged Trump’s enemies if they couldn’t get the president’s scalp but they could chip away at key advisers.

      Now his weak defense of imperialism by saying it makes xyz happy. Lots of jobs in the white house and elsewhere went to the GOP establishment crowd to keep them happy yet why is Trump’s own party still opposing him? It would have been much better to stack the administration with loyalists and nationalists instead.

      I think Lion assumed things would “normalize” after the election but they haven’t. We’re in a state of permanent war.

      redarmyvodka

      April 13, 2017 at 6:58 pm

  6. The question I have is how much damage will Ivanka be able to do?

    Andrew E.

    April 12, 2017 at 10:29 pm

  7. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bannons-struggle-from-shadow-president-to-trumps-marked-man/2017/04/12/1f5aabc0-1f99-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html

    “But other Trump loyalists dispute the idea that Bannon is the id of the Trump movement, pointing out that Trump has been advocating some of the same populist positions — especially on immigration and trade — for decades and for more than a year on the campaign trail before Bannon’s hiring last summer.

    These people argue that a better representative of Trump’s voters inside the White House is Stephen Miller, the senior policy adviser and former Sessions aide who joined the campaign early and helped Trump hone and communicate his ideas. They said Miller has worked closely with Bannon but also has strategically aligned himself with Kushner, who came to see him last year as indispensable at Trump’s side.

    IHTG

    April 13, 2017 at 4:46 am

  8. The delusion of those defending this pointless strike is maddening. Nothing good ever comes of shaking the hornet’s nest that is the Middle East. The New Yorker had it right – lobbing missiles is a mindless rite of passage for modern U.S. presidents. I’m willing to bet money he strikes Syria again. All it takes is one or two generals to convince Trump we needs boots on the ground and it’s a go.

    Frankly, the alt-right is spot on when it comes to this issue. Their tirades about “neo-con influence” don’t sound so crazy anymore.

    Of course, I’m not “off the Trump train.” As long as he keeps his eye on the ball for immigration, he has my support. But let’s not pretend we’re witnessing any 4-D chess moves.

    SWPL2

    April 13, 2017 at 9:23 am

    • Ideally Trump wouldn’t have had to do it, but because of politics he had to.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 13, 2017 at 9:51 am

      • What’s changed since 2013 when Obama set his red line. Where’s the necessity to strike?

        Well, for starters,
        ISIS
        The refugee problem in Europe (emanating from the Syria civil war)

        And yet no one seems to mention those HUGE issues, which both affect US security.

        gda

        April 13, 2017 at 10:11 am

      • The entire strike is basically the product of modern Yellow Journalism. The media have no one to blame but themselves. They decided to run a story about how Assad dropped bombs of sarin gas on a village full of children and cameras. They put Trump into a position of either doing nothing, which would make him look weak, compromised or indecisive, or doing something…and they lost. The lesson is, don’t play chicken with Trump.

        Just game this out. Let’s say Trump did nothing. The media would then write about his horrid indifference to the suffering of children. They would claim that he is Putin’s puppet. They would wonder why Trump is siding with Assad. Keep in mind, that Trump cannot accuse the IC of engaging in false flags or regard Russian intelligence as more credible than his own. Trump does not exist in the blogosphere. So, he took the least bad course of action…and it panned out.

        Now, the liberal media is the one spinning conspiracy theories.

        map

        April 13, 2017 at 3:20 pm

      • “…Assad dropped bombs of sarin gas on a village full of children and cameras.”

        Great line!

        Mike Street Station

        April 14, 2017 at 8:13 am

    • “The delusion of those defending this pointless strike is maddening”

      The delusion of those criticizing the strike is maddening. Assad used chem weapons, Trump had to respond to preserve US credibility. Now, I don’t give a shit about US credibility but a lot of very powerful people do and Trump needs at least some level of cooperation with them to implement his agenda.

      Trump has already said in no uncertain terms that there will not be boots on the ground in Syria. This isn’t 2003 and there is literally zero chance that any US President, Trump included, will invade any middle eastern country. It just isn’t going to happen.

      “But let’s not pretend we’re witnessing any 4-D chess moves.”

      Nobody is pretending. It isn’t 4-D chess, it’s common sense. There are real political constraints that Trump operates under and he simply had to respond to what Assad did, end of story. Anybody denying that Trump had to do what he did is subhuman scum.

      Lion: can you do a movie review of Mulholland Drive?

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 13, 2017 at 10:51 am

      • “The delusion of those criticizing the strike is maddening. Assad used chem weapons, ”

        LOL. The alt right crazies are calling it a false flag. Now Spencer is taking credit for preventing WW3. What a turd.

        gothamette

        April 13, 2017 at 3:15 pm

      • The delusion of those criticizing the strike is maddening. Assad used chem weapons, Trump had to respond to preserve US credibility. Now, I don’t give a shit about US credibility but a lot of very powerful people do and Trump needs at least some level of cooperation with them to implement his agenda.

        The critics also need to learn what a neocon is.

        Hint: Mattis, McMaster and Tillerson are not “neocons”.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 13, 2017 at 6:37 pm

      • Being called “subhuman scum” by Otis for criticizing Trump is a rite of passage here.

        SWPL2

        April 14, 2017 at 10:28 am

      • You can criticize Trump, I’ve done so myself many times, but you can’t criticize him doing totally necessary foreign policy moves that ultimately don’t matter. If you do so you are subhuman scum.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 14, 2017 at 12:25 pm

  9. It’s stilll very early in the Trump presidency – too soon to draw any conclusions.

    There’s nothing like a successful military action to boost a president’s popularity. Bush I’s approval rating neared 90% after the conclusion of the first Gulf war. Didn’t last – he crashed and burned in his reelection campaign.

    Syria, like Iraq, Libya, Mali, Yemen and Somalia, is a failed state. The Assads are brutal tyrants who may or may not have gassed their own people, but atavistic behavior toward innocents is par for the course in the Middle East. Popping a Syrian base with a bunch of Tomahawks makes Trump (and the US) appear strong and sends a message that he (and we) are not to be messed with. The Russians are pissed, but so what? If you intervene in these wars, you are going to get hit sooner or later, and China and North Korea certainly took note of the strike.

    In this part of the world, the choices are clear – rule by some sort of tyrannical king, president or dictator or – chaos. None of these states will ever work as a true democracy – the inhabitants all hate each other too much. The best thing for them is probably partition along ethnic/tribal/religious lines, but that’s for the locals to decide. Aside from destroying ISIS, al-Qaeda and other radical groups, it really doesn’t matter that much to us.

    So cut Trump some slack and give him a chance – we still have a long way to go. Stay tuned….

    Black Death

    April 13, 2017 at 10:05 am

  10. A day after the attack on Syria there was an attack on Christian community in Egypt and a 3 months long state if emergency was declared. How smart is it to attack the only Muslim country where minorities are unmolested? Don’t forget that this country had supported Sadam Hussain against Iran and was ignoring his massive use of chemical weapons during that war and against the Kurds. What I see is erratic and unpredictable behavior. The administration has adopted the expression ‘he is killing his own people’, which is truly idiotic, if there ever was one. It’s early in the presidency, but this was a bad move.

    Yakov

    April 13, 2017 at 12:25 pm

    • I see you turn-coating from Trump, because of this.

      JS

      April 14, 2017 at 12:01 am

  11. We apparently just dropped mega-bombs of some sort on Afghanistan. Wake me in three and a half years.

    SWPL2

    April 13, 2017 at 12:54 pm

  12. What has Trump achieved by this? A few weeks of good publicity from the establishment that still hates him? The intervention in Syria was reckless and damaged a regime that should be our ally, it encouraged future false flag operations by our enemies, plus it harmed relations with Russia who are as worried about Islam as Trump is. The electorate don’t give a damn about the Middle East, the long-term political consequences are all negative. Trump has reversed long-standing views on not interfering in the Middle East. What if this now emboldens him to take on North Korea? Nothing good will come from this. I sense that Trump needs Bannon’s input, but instead he’s listening to the neo-cons in his camp such as Kushner.

    The lioncub

    April 13, 2017 at 1:51 pm

  13. I see it the opposite. I am part of the alt-right who has been having a meltdown. I wanted the Trump Presidency to be the ultimate nightmare for Trump haters. The more Trump haters like Trump the less enthusiasm I have for him. Once Bannon leaves I will jump off the Trump train altogether and start rooting against him.

    Jay Fink

    April 13, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    • The God-Emperor really needs more fair-weather friends like you. 😉

      I will just be tickled pink if Trump achieves even 20% of his agenda. In fact, just staying in power long enough to appoint one more SCOTUS makes Trump’s presidency a HUGE winner for me, regardless if he does nothing else.

      I’m afraid the alt-right’s expectations were always built on a base of naiveté. If only wishes were horses….

      gda

      April 13, 2017 at 3:55 pm

  14. Plenty of guys on the alt-right just flat out love Russia, so they’re mad that Trump bombed one of their allies as a warning. I can understand the ones who are ethnic Russian who feel this way, but a lot of the alt-right guys are their own kind of cuck, they just like Russia instead of Mexico or Sunni Islam.

    Sid

    April 13, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    • Russia is the only (mostly) white country of any geopolitical heft that isn’t ideologically anti-white. Putin is a multiculturalist imperialist but has no open program of white dispossession. That doesn’t mean that the Muslim population of Russia hasn’t grown a lot since the end of the Soviet Union.

      http://www.unz.com/akarlin/russian-nationalism-101/
      (…)
      “Russian nationalists do get imprisoned for hate speech, sometimes on remarkably spurious and illegitimate grounds. On the other hand, 282 is also wielded against Russophobes and Islamic extremists, which has made the Council of Europe very sad, so the situation here is perhaps not quite as bad as in the more “cucked” European countries.
      (…)

      curri

      April 13, 2017 at 5:14 pm

      • Sure, I do agree that Russia isn’t 100% bad, and support good ties with them wherever possible. That said, North Korea has better policies on accepting refugees than Merkel, but you won’t hear me defend Kim Jong-un’s impact on the world.

        Whatever else can be said about Russia, I think we can all agree that it will pursue its own interests as aggressively as possible, and they’ll be happy to advance their interests at our expense whenever possible. Defending the white race on the whole isn’t necessarily one of their interests.

        Sid

        April 13, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    • but a lot of the alt-right guys are their own kind of cuck, they just like Russia instead of Mexico or Sunni Islam.

      They’re also cucked economically. Richard Spencer did a video coming out for European style health care system (a thoroughly uncucked move) and the comments section was full of debunked right wing health care nonsense.

      Magnavox

      April 13, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      • Wow!

        Anglo Proles are slowly realizing how miserable their states are, and their people, of course!

        JS

        April 13, 2017 at 11:54 pm

      • There is nowhere to go,
        but I’m losing my enthusiasm. What sense does it make for Assad to order a chemical weapons attack? Is he stupid? Is Putin stupid? Would Russia EVER allow him to do it in its present economic and political situation? NO! This is such an idiotic move. Now the megabomb? This is more stupid. Did these morons forget Vietnam? They threw everything they had at it and still lost. Are they that stupid? Yes, they are. They are so stupid as to support Taliban against a secular regime supported by the USSR and to end up themselves fighting that very Taliban for decsdes. Do the they seriously think they are going to win in Afghanistan with megabombs? The American military has learned nothing either. All this country is able to do is leave a trail of destruction, mayhem, blood and tears anywhere it gets involved. It’s truly a terrorist state which tries to use its superior power to bully and destroy. It’s a very stupidly run country. Trump ran on a common sense platform, but he’s doing crazy things now. Am I the only one to think that the the reason that the stupid military had used the bomb is because they need humanlguinea pigs to test it? They learned nothing. Think: if after decades of war Taliban is in ascendancy again and the Afgan army cannot even contain it on it’s own, how stupid you have to be to drop megabobms? Very stupid. Now Trump says he is giving free hand to the generals to bomb the hell out of Afghanistan, this – giving the free hand to generals in what is supposed to be a conflict that US is getting out off, is beyond stupid.

        Trump didn’t have to bomb either Syria or Afghanistan. He blinked, he is weak and erratic. You mates are weird to think that a leader who has to bomb a foreign state because of the fake news generated by the hostile media is anything but weak.

        Now this is a total riot. At the press conference Trump was surrounded by two NAMs dressed up as generals. This was so funny! So Trump goes: ‘We have the best military, I’m so, so proud of our men and women in the uniform. They are the best! They did such a fantastic job dropping that megabomb on Afghanistan!’ I understand that media is stupid and has its agenda, but, you mates, are you also stupid?

        This is how stupid they are:

        This is what they had destroyed:

        Yakov

        April 14, 2017 at 11:00 am

      • Everybody is against the use of chemical weapons and everybody is against ISIS. If these recent bombings diminish the possibility of future chemical weapons attacks and weaken ISIS then they are all to the good.

        If these are just the first steps in escalating US participation in ground fighting in Syria and Afghanistan, then maybe we have a problem.

        It is a little silly for Alt-right types to get upset about the bombing of ISIS; Trump said repeatedly in the campaign he was going to heavily bomb ISIS.

        Gozo

        April 14, 2017 at 11:39 am

      • My quick take on bombing Assad…

        There have been two ways of viewing Assad: he’s either the solution to the Syrian Civil War and refugee crisis, or part of the problem.

        Trump adopted a third view: Assad’s regime may need to stay, but his human rights abuses are part of the problem.

        Trump is right. The U.S. cannot overthrow Assad, because ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and Ahrar al-Sham will grow in the vacuum. Sunni Syrians cannot be trusted to rule over Syrian religious minorities.

        That said, Assad’s behavior has been a huge part of the problem. Whether it’s poison gas, barrel bombing residential areas, or torture-execution prisons, Assad has been using human rights abuses to drive Sunni Syrians out of Syria and funnel them to Europe via Turkey.

        Before you accuse me of imbibing Western propaganda, let me ask you something: Why should Assad and Syrian religious minorities want Sunnis in their country? Too bad for them, but Sunnis should be their problem and not Europe’s. Assad needs to be made to clean up his act.

        On Afghanistan…

        It’s so American to want wars to have discrete end dates. Truth is, we’ll be in Afghanistan for at least 40 years, and we’re not even at the halfway point yet. (40 years is how long it takes to reform a political culture, according to a seasoned practitioner I spoke with from the UNDP.) Get used to it, because withdrawing from Iraq was the biggest blow to U.S. foreign interests since Chiang Kai-Shek fell. We’re not going to repeat that.

        Let’s hope we get mineral rights deals that offset some of the cost.

        “They don’t just love Russia (or rather, their fantasy of Russia) they hate the US. A demonstration of US strength, and against Russia, is very….triggering. They are now the left: triggered, offended, and crazy.”

        Every other author at the Unz Review (not Steve Sailer, however) more or less views the U.S. as more corrupt than Russia (and China), and thinks the U.S. has a worse human rights and civil liberties tally than Russia/China. Some of the authors there think Stalin was an alright guy because he at least purged the Jews de facto in 1937 and de jure in 1952.

        I’m not so bothered when Russian nationals make those arguments, but again, the Americans who believe that stuff are just as vile and disgusting as leftists who want white men to die off from opioids, white women to work in corporate HR departments until they reach menopause, and all our babies to be Mexican or Muslim.

        Sid

        April 15, 2017 at 3:43 am

    • They don’t just love Russia (or rather, their fantasy of Russia) they hate the US. A demonstration of US strength, and against Russia, is very….triggering. They are now the left: triggered, offended, and crazy.

      gothamette

      April 14, 2017 at 12:38 pm

  15. Syria was the hors d’oeuvre.

    The main course will be North Korea:

    Assad?

    Leave him be we say.

    An occasional Raytheon ™ provided slap across the face if he plays too fast and loose with sarin? Very reasonable, if not without risks.

    But to those who want him removed, beware: The ghost of Moammar Ghadaffi (How the world misses ye! May ye rest in peace!) resplendent in still magnificent African robes casts a long shadow. For the alternatives to Assad are all worse than Assad many times over. Remove Assad from power and post-Assad Syria instantly becomes post-Ghadhaffi Libya without precious, soul-nourishing, hydrocarbons, and with still more dubious stakeholders invested in carving up Syria’s geopolitical carcass.

    Assad can and most likely will be reined in now that he knows he does not have a blank check from Trump to do whatever he wants.

    North Korea is an entirely different matter.

    I admire NorkKor’s intelligence service. Whatever it does (and whatever the hell that is, is quite opaque even to the Chinese) is built around Proletarian Socialism, which means it does not involve pussyhats, global warming, human “rights”, or diversity.

    I have recommended the North Korean model of discipline for America’s intelligence agencies. I will continue to recommend it so long as our intelligence services are more interested in transgender “rights” than espionage.

    But this Stalinist throwback, as a whole, may have finally outlived its usefulness, even to this blog which is still very open to having authoritarian regimes make their case without any historical filters.

    But a North Korean ICBM program that can eventually produce a nuclear weapon able to reach the Continental United States will have to be destroyed, one way or other.

    I admit, as a foreign policy crisis, I admire the threat North Korea poses for its purity, a survivor, unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality. Without those minor distractions we have a true strategic threat that will allow America to be even more unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality in annihilating it.

    At Pragmatically Distributed we rarely leave a discussion of a particular case study without tying it back to theory.

    The greater theoretical lesson to take from the saga of North Korea’s nuclear program is that the objective rogue governments have in acquiring nuclear weapons is not so much to actually use them. The true advantage to their having them is to grant them leverage to get away with all sorts of extra mischief that they could not get away with if they had only conventional weapons. With an ICBM, North Korea would be, for example, able to attack First World merchant ships because they would know the cost of retaliating to the United States for North Korea’s non-nuclear aggression could potentially escalate into a nuclear attack against the Continental US.

    If an ICBM gives North Korea freedom to do evil, the United States’ objective must be to deny them the freedom an ICBM would give them by any means necessary.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    April 13, 2017 at 6:15 pm

  16. “Trump’s got a new favorite Steve
    As the president cools on Steve Bannon, his deputy Stephen Miller is cultivating relationships with other members of Trump’s coterie.” http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/stephen-miller-white-house-trump-237216

    IHTG

    April 14, 2017 at 7:57 am


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