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Girls final episode “Latching”

This was very disappointing. Really, last week’s episode was the final episode, as it wrapped up all of the storylines that weren’t wrapped up in the episode before that.

In this episode, it’s five months later, and Hannah is living in the country in upstate New York, probably in or near the town of Red Hook. Marnie is living with her. It’s like they are an old married couple. Hannah is a real asshole to her. And she’s a real asshole to her mom who comes because Marnie calls her.

Hannah comes to her senses after encountering a high school girl who ran away from home, crying, because her mom asked her to do her homework.

The baby looks very brown, browner than I would expect for a half-Pakistani baby, especially considering that Hannah has very pale skin.

There’s a lot of misinformation about the benefits of breast feeding. This is a topic I’ve written about before. The only reason there’s a correlation between breast feeding and good outcomes is because formula is primarily used by a lower class of women; but it’s really a low-class mother that causes the bad outcomes and not the formula. Women in Hannah’s situation, where breast feeding is causing problems, should use formula without guilt.

And there’s a scene in which Marnie has video-phone sex.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 16, 2017 at 10:54 pm

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  1. Cow’s milk might be a cause of type 1 diabetes.

    Stealth

    April 16, 2017 at 11:08 pm

  2. Super brown baby. Rampant anti-white propaganda. One minute into the episode, and I’m grossed out.

    Peterike

    April 16, 2017 at 11:24 pm

  3. Worst. Episode. Ever.

    Peterike

    April 16, 2017 at 11:51 pm

  4. The best part of this was going to the #GirlsHBO hashtag on Twitter and reading all the negative tweets about it.

    The show sucked overall, aside from a few funny moments here and there. It was lazily written and overrated, as was Lena Dunham. Aimee Mann’s husband Michael Penn’s musical choices, and the Brooklyn setting, made it look and sound more interesting than it was.

    Good riddance.

    Dave Pinsen

    April 16, 2017 at 11:56 pm

  5. I agree that is true about breast feeding now, but was it really true in the 80’s when those studies came out? Back then only hippies breast fed. Upper class women certainly didn’t. It was the studies that led to upper class women picking up breast feeding, not the other way around.

    PerezHBD

    April 17, 2017 at 12:00 am

    • Breast feeding was uncommon in the middle of the 20th century and those kids didn’t get any dumber.

      JayMan

      April 17, 2017 at 8:45 am

      • I wouldn’t necessarily say that — has the competence of our cognitive elite been on an upwards or a downwards trend since the middle of the last century? I’d say the trend is dramatic and obvious.

        Whether breastfeeding vs formula has a causal relationship to that (as opposed to merely correlating) is hard to answer, but some insight could be gained by comparing Gen X and Millennials. The anecdotal evidence in that vein suggests there may well be something to it: a Millennial needs much stronger grades and test scores to get into an elite university or graduate program nowadays than a Gen X’er needed in the 80s and 90s.

        snorlax

        April 18, 2017 at 5:19 pm

      • Jayman – Your comment is ambiguous. You may have thought you were saying “kids don’t get any dumber than that” or you may have thought you were saying “those kids were no dumber than the kids before”. Your grammatical choices really do not give a clue as to which. I had to read twice and think about other things you have said to figure out what you probably meant . Anyway, the sort of parent who was dumb enough to believe that breast feeding was completely unimportant because the eggheads at the 1950s versions of General Mills and Monsanto had come up with a great substitute for breast milk, likely also believed other dumb things (and acted on his or her stupid beliefs, to their childrens’ detriment). This is not a subtle point – whether breastfeeding versus formula was a big deal or not is not as important as the fact that almost all of the mid-century people who went for formula did so in a stupid uninformed way. Stupid people are hard to analyze because they often do multiple stupid things; thereby confounding, as time passes, the precise statistical efforts of us latecomers, even the best of us. Sure we are all stupid in many ways. But seriously – bottle feeding little babies, relying on the promises of 1950s scientists? Pure dystopian folly.

        howitzer daniel

        April 18, 2017 at 9:58 pm

  6. Plus, formula isn’t the same as it was 50 years ago. It used to be little more than sugar water. Companies have since put a lot of research into making formula more like breast milk. Even so, that doesn’t mean they can replicate it. Case in point, studies which show that taking vitamins isn’t as good as eating a nutritious diet.

    Formula may be closer to breast milk today, but common sense suggests breast milk must be as good or better than formula. On the other hand, unless they can identify something bad that breast milk has or good that it lacks, it’s very unlikely that formula is better. Therefore, breast milk is the rational choice.

    At some point, I expect biotechs will use stem cells, crispr, etc to engineer gmo cows that actually produce human breast milk. It seems like they should be very close to doing that. After all, they’re very close to making gmo pigs for organ transplants. I think they’ve already done it. They just haven’t used them yet.

    destructure

    April 17, 2017 at 8:18 am

    • One of my grade school friends constantly mentioned that his (adult) cousin raised pigs with human hearts in a secret program for the army. This was in the late 90s. It’s possible he was BSing but stories made up by 7-year-olds are usually a lot less plausible.

      snorlax

      April 18, 2017 at 5:32 pm

  7. The episode and season sucked. The show hasn’t been good since the 3rd season, which was also the last season before Adam Driver started filming Star Wars and subsequently wasn’t around as much. The funny thing about Girls was that the guys were the best characters on the show: Adam, Ray, Elijah, etc.

    Not Jean Ralphio

    April 17, 2017 at 9:33 am

  8. Our long national nightmare is over.

    Oswald Spengler

    April 17, 2017 at 9:41 am

  9. What do you think of Better Call Saul? The new season just started and it’s pretty good. I think you might enjoy watching and reviewing “Black Mirror” on Netflix, which is a sci-fi, futurist dystopia version of Tales from the Crypt, i.e. each episode is it’s own story. I’d like to see you review that show as it is intellectually stimulating but at the same time some of the episodes are from a Leftist perspective (i.e. there is one episode about a computer generated cartoon running for office that is obviously a mockery of Trump).

    DataExplorer

    April 17, 2017 at 11:30 am

    • That episode is from 2013, so if it had any specific target in mind it was most likely Farage, or maybe Nick Clegg.

      snorlax

      April 18, 2017 at 5:35 pm

      • Or Boris Johnson, maybe.

        snorlax

        April 18, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    • Better Call Saul is surprisingly good, considering that as a prequel it inevitably has less suspense than Breaking Bad (e.g., obviously, no character who appeared in Breaking Bad is going to get killed in Saul).

      I like how they’re not afraid to go minutes without any dialogue. I guess that’s one way of heightening suspense.

      Dave Pinsen

      April 19, 2017 at 4:22 am

    • I don’t know how anyone stomachs Black Mirror after the first episode of the first season.

      Dave

      April 19, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      • That is a tough show to watch. There’s another show that’s not as harsh, it’s more like a new Twilight Zone: Dimension 404.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 20, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      • I’m only 2 episodes in, but, the second one is right up Lion’s alley re: playing video games for a living. A lot like Running Man but without violence. The 1st episode was painful – brilliant, but painful.

        culdesachero

        April 20, 2017 at 9:19 pm

  10. Off topic, but the results of the Turkish referendum have revealed that whilst the result in Turkey was very close, Turks outside Turkey voted by a margin of almost 2-1 in favour of Erdogan’s autocratic measures (70% in Holland) Given that there are 2.9 million eligible Turkish voters living outside Turkey, and given that the ‘yes’ vote only won by 1.3 million votes, these foreign Turks have proved to be a key demographic for Erdogan.

    It seems like Erdogan really knew what he was doing by calling the German and Dutch people Nazis and Fascists. By and large German and Dutch Turks seem to enjoyed him insulting and abusing their co-compatriots. And perhaps a lot of the Turks who voted against him were actually Kurds or some other minority group, who were therefore only acting out of other nationalistic interests, rather than because they have imbibed European democratic values.

    It should be remembered that Turks have been held up as being more of a success story of integration in comparison to other groups, yet even in their case there are clearly plenty of questions about where their loyalties really lie.

    Seeing as comparisons with the Nazi period are very much in vogue, I suggest we see these Turks as being like Sudeten or Polish Germans looking longingly at the powerful strong man taking power in their fatherland.

    prolier than thou

    April 17, 2017 at 11:33 am

    • Seeing as comparisons with the Nazi period are very much in vogue, I suggest we see these Turks as being like Sudeten or Polish Germans looking longingly at the powerful strong man taking power in their fatherland.

      Doesn’t this mean the Balkans are the Poland of this scenario?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      April 17, 2017 at 7:29 pm

      • “Doesn’t this mean the Balkans are the Poland of this scenario?”

        I must admit that I hadn’t been thinking too much about the likes of Bosnia and Kosovo when I wrote that, but now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting angle.

        prolier than thou

        April 18, 2017 at 4:20 pm

      • I must admit that I hadn’t been thinking too much about the likes of Bosnia and Kosovo when I wrote that, but now that you mention it, that does seem like an interesting angle.

        And Poland/Germany/the rest of Central Europe is Soviet Russia.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 19, 2017 at 11:39 pm

  11. Formula wasn’t sugar water 50 years ago – if that were true the Boomers would be mentally deficient and obese. Instead, millennials are.

    Breast feeding is best only when everything is ideal. A woman lost a baby because her militant pro-breast feeding hospital discharged her with strict instrux to continue trying to breast feed her newborn son, who wasn’t taking to the breast. Plus, she wasn’t producing enough colostrum. He died of dehydration w/in 24 hours. That’s all it takes to kill a tiny baby. The feminist idiots who delivered her baby killed him.

    There’s a cranky female obstetrician who takes all this shite to task. I forget her name. She is devastating.

    gothamette

    April 17, 2017 at 11:41 am

    • It’s Dr. Amy Tuteur. Read her scathing indictment of “lactivism.”

      http://www.skepticalob.com/

      Re: Girls, I’ve spent weekends in Red Hook, NY, and I can say that it would be awfully boring for a young woman to live there. Lovely place for a weekend, but there’s only so much antiquing I can stand. Like Eva Gabor, “I love city life!”

      gothamette

      April 17, 2017 at 11:46 am

    • Formula always started with cow’s milk.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 17, 2017 at 5:44 pm

      • Right now soy-based has a high market share and is cheaper. Milk based is still big however.

        Pop

        April 18, 2017 at 4:27 am

    • Formula wasn’t sugar water 50 years ago

      I wasn’t being literal. My point was that formula was very inadequate years ago. As Leon points out, formula has always been made from cow’s milk. The problem is that cow’s milk doesn’t have the same composition as breast milk. And it’s very hard on a baby’s system. Of course they tried to tweak it with fats, carbohydrates, etc. But they didn’t know what they were doing.

      It’s amazing how recently major changes were being made. For example, they didn’t even start fortifying it with iron until 1959. Adjusting the whey:casein ratio until 1962. Adding taurine until 1984. Nucleotides until the 1990’s. And fatty acids until the 2000’s.

      That’s some pretty important stuff added pretty late. Which convinces me they still haven’t mastered the science. They’ve been playing it by ear and still are. That doesn’t mean they haven’t figured out the basic components or that it’s not a viable option today. Only that it’s not ideal and they’ve still got a long way to go before it is.

      ***
      “if that were true the Boomers would be mentally deficient and obese. Instead, millennials are.”

      Boomers were the worst generation America ever crapped out. Millennials are a breath of fresh air compared to them.

      destructure

      April 17, 2017 at 9:01 pm

      • Mental deficiency isn’t the problem with the Boomers destructure. And we came of age before the obesity epidemic. So don’t blame formula for that. We’ll have to agree to disagree about the Millenials…..

        I doubt scientists will ever replicate formula perfectly. Did you know that there is foremilk and aftermilk? Nature worked the whole thing out brilliantly. But there can be problems with nursing, as the poor little boy who died of dehydration showed.

        gothamette

        April 18, 2017 at 2:02 pm

      • “Mental deficiency isn’t the problem with the Boomers destructure.”

        Don’t be so sure ie the Flynn effect. The real problem with the boomers is bad values, bad behavior and misplaced priorities. Everything bad increased with them ie drugs, promiscuity, abortion, illegitimacy, divorce, crime, etc. A perverse and degenerate generation. And their terrible politics and social views goes without saying. They’ve all but destroyed the country through runaway social spending and mass immigration. And now they retire expecting to live off subsequent generations including the millennials. I consider myself fortunate to have had older parents from the previous generation.

        In my opinion, this critique of Woodstock applies to the boomers in general.

        http://www.debbieschlussel.com/6999/woodstock-40-years-ago-the-start-of-the-quickening-of-americas-fall/comment-page-1/

        “And we came of age before the obesity epidemic. So don’t blame formula for that.”

        I didn’t blame formula for obesity. But, since you brought it up, boomers have the highest obesity rates of any age group. The MAJORITY of boomers are either overweight or obese. They’re also sicker than previous generations. An amazing accomplishment(?) considering how much more advanced modern medicine has become.

        destructure

        April 19, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    • There seems to be a feminist aspect to both the pro- and anti- breastfeeding sides. Pro-breastfeeding feminists want breasts in everyone’s face as a way of taunting men, and anti-breastfeeding feminists don’t want women to have motherly responsibility. So you have the tits-out feminists going “I have to breastfeed literally everywhere. I will breastfeed over your open chest cavity while your surgery is in progress,” and you have the office lady feminists going “I have to be in a pre-meeting about a mission statement for an action plan about choosing a coffee maker, and since that’s extremely important and formula is nutritionally identical to breast milk, I’m out of here.”

      Rogal Dorn

      April 19, 2017 at 9:31 pm

  12. Trump back up to 50 in Ras. At 41 in Gallup.

    Trump is being more orthodox, more “Presidential” and people are getting over the Ryancare debacle. Need to keep up the good work.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 17, 2017 at 12:32 pm

  13. Odd. Marnie is actually nice and pleasant in the episode. One is actually sympathetic towards her.

    Well, I’m glad that this show is a wrap and I won’t have to think of it again. I doubt I will watch it as a re-run 10 years hence.

    Daniel

    April 17, 2017 at 1:47 pm

  14. So I read several stories/reviews of the episode, and NOT ONE of them mentions the fact that Hannah’s child is so dark skinned. They don’t mention race at all, really. Which I suppose is better than shouting, “thank god she didn’t have an awful WHITE baby!” but it’s really weirdly unmentioned.

    On the show, of course, everyone is goo-gooing about Grover (retarded name choice) being so cute. Yuck. Kid was just plain ugly. Maybe this makes some white 20-something girls look at that and say, “oh man, I don’t want MY baby looking like that kid!”

    The best propaganda we can hope for is our own lyin’ eyes.

    peterike

    April 17, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    • Ann Althouse mentioned how the kid was suspiciously dark.

      Gozo

      April 17, 2017 at 6:00 pm

      • Althouse is very based on certain subjects.

        Has anyone here seen Silicon Valley? If so, whudja think?

        gothamette

        April 18, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    • Go to the hashtag on Twitter. I saw a black woman complain about the complexion of the baby being too dark.

      Coincidentally, I also saw a tweet of Janet Jackson holding her (light-skinned) baby yesterday. The anti-Hannah.

      Dave Pinsen

      April 17, 2017 at 6:04 pm

      • In my experience, a lot of run-of-the-mill black people also detest PC (within rational limits for them).

        Dave

        April 19, 2017 at 9:50 pm

      • Are you kidding me?! Only white people can be polite,discipline and law obedient enough to be PC .
        Black people “keeping it real” . They are on the liberal wagon only for AA,welfare and victimology.

        eyaldavid

        April 20, 2017 at 5:46 pm

  15. So what’s the next show on the Lion Review Parade?

    I tried watching “Iron Fist” on Netflix, and it’s really pretty awful, though the Asian girl is pretty cute and has big boobs for an Asian girl, or a quasi-Asian girl, whatever she is. It’s all really badly acted though and the story line is dull. I’m on the fence about going beyond episode three.

    What else is out there now? “The Young Pope” was just bizarre after 1/2 an episode. Gotta get back to that one.

    peterike

    April 17, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    • Billions on Showtime is much more entertaining than Girls. The protagonist hedge fund manager is sort of modeled on Stephen A. Cohen of SAC Capital and Howard Lutnick of Cantor Fitzgerald, and his antagonist US Attorney is modeled on Spitzer, though the show makes both characters WASPs instead of Jews.

      Dave Pinsen

      April 17, 2017 at 7:04 pm

      • Billions is an outstanding show. Top notch writing and acting. Damion Lewis and Paul Giamatti are terrific. Great supporting characters. Not much in your face lefty preaching. Just money, power and revenge.

        Andrew E.

        April 17, 2017 at 11:05 pm

      • “the show makes both characters WASPs instead of Jews.”

        OK, we all know what that means, but doesn’t it give some nice goyish actors jobs?

        gothamette

        April 18, 2017 at 2:09 pm

      • Damien Lewis’s character (“Bobby Axelrod”) is Jewish, despite being played by the extremely-Anglo Damien Lewis (who, needless to say, looks absolutely nothing like the real SAC).

        snorlax

        April 18, 2017 at 5:42 pm

      • “We all know what that means.”

        Sadly, I don’t. The writers think a Gentile audience will relate to them more? A way to avoid stereotyping?

        Curle

        April 18, 2017 at 11:03 pm

      • Damien Lewis’s character (“Bobby Axelrod”) is Jewish, despite being played by the extremely-Anglo Damien Lewis (who, needless to say, looks absolutely nothing like the real SAC).

        What indicates to you that Axlerod is Jewish? I can’t think of one plot element, or bit of dialogue suggesting that in the show. Did you spot a mezuzah somewhere?

        Dave Pinsen

        April 19, 2017 at 4:11 am

      • “the show makes both characters WASPs instead of Jews.”

        OK, we all know what that means, but doesn’t it give some nice goyish actors jobs?

        At first, reading the descriptions of the main characters on the Showtime website, it struck me as inauthentic, as there’d be a lot of Jews in this milieu. But the show is so well done, it doesn’t bother me at all now. Class is interesting in its own right, and Billions focuses more on that than ethnicity, and it rings true.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 19, 2017 at 4:16 am

      • Hey Dave I watched the first few episodes on your rec, and I agree it is a good show. The cast is all an A.

        One thing I did not like are all the various scenes that focus on how awesome it is to be rich, look at my conspicuous consumption. I hope there are not a few of these in *every show,* and their presence the in the first few episodes is more for set-up.

        The writing could be tighter too. Why is the Indian girl who is leaking so extremely obvious? Why does the FBI let her handler get away without so much as arresting and ID’ing him? Surely the intern’s testimony would be enough to convict him of a lot. He committed burglary of her house and obstruction of justice at minimum.

        Pop

        April 19, 2017 at 2:19 pm

      • “Not much in your face lefty preaching”.

        The gender fluid bs in billions is pretty annoying, both for its content and the fact that the writers seem to think that being in lock-step with bleeding edge leftist propaganda is their duty.

        Dave

        April 19, 2017 at 9:34 pm

      • “OK, we all know what that means, but doesn’t it give some nice goyish actors jobs”?

        Non-Jewish actors are not in-need of work, on the whole.

        Dave

        April 19, 2017 at 9:35 pm

      • though the show makes both characters WASPs instead of Jews.

        So what?

        Both WASPs and Jews have been liberals since WWII.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 19, 2017 at 11:40 pm

      • What indicates to you that Axlerod is Jewish? I can’t think of one plot element, or bit of dialogue suggesting that in the show. Did you spot a mezuzah somewhere?

        Because Axelrod is a Jewish surname? Like Bizarro Steve Bannon, David Axelrod.

        snorlaxwp

        April 20, 2017 at 1:01 am

      • The writing could be tighter too. Why is the Indian girl who is leaking so extremely obvious? Why does the FBI let her handler get away without so much as arresting and ID’ing him? Surely the intern’s testimony would be enough to convict him of a lot. He committed burglary of her house and obstruction of justice at minimum.

        Sorry, I don’t remember that episode.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 20, 2017 at 4:02 pm

  16. Women in Hannah’s situation, where breast feeding is causing problems, should use formula without guilt

    Totally agreed – and I’m a doctor! This is what we did since my wife and had a terrible time nursing.

    And there’s a scene in which Marnie has video-phone sex

    Yuck!

    S.J., Esquire

    April 17, 2017 at 4:20 pm

  17. NeoGaf already making excuses/playing down losing GA-6.

    Trump won the district by nearly 2 points, and you have to figure that a lot of Republicans in that cuck district voted for McMuffin, Hillary or Johnson, although I don’t have any figures.

    Nate Silver (douchebag) says that he estimates the district is R+10, but I’m not sure I buy that it is that high. I suspect it is more like R+8. So if the Republican candidates beat the Democratic candidates total by 8%, I would consider that a draw. Anything more is a victory for us and anything less is a victory for the Dems.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 17, 2017 at 4:37 pm

  18. Report on the ground about how Trump’s destruction of the immigrant community is effecting immigrants in Austin, TX.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 17, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    • Lots of talk amongst the left about the Pew poll released today comparing Trump’s current popularity to his approval at inauguration and comparing those numbers to past Presidents. Vox has an article about it: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/17/15327990/poll-stand-up-to-trump.

      The Left apparently thinks this is a good thing for them, as it shows that Trump has had no honeymoon. But what is interesting is that Trump’s approval numbers have not declined at all and his disapproval number *have* slightly declined, which is completely unprecedented.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 17, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    • Otis the Sweaty

      April 17, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      • Excellent. If this were all we got from Trump it would be enough for me. But wait! There’s more! Jeff Sessions is prepared to enforce a taste of Southern justice. There are plenty of felony convictions in store for the immigrants still around after the destruction of the immigrant community. Illegal immigration will be down by 80% or more by the end of Trump’s first term and he is normalizing this kind of ruthless but thoroughly necessary law enforcement for years to come.

        B.T.D.T.

        April 17, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    • Where? Link?

      gothamette

      April 18, 2017 at 2:10 pm

  19. It really sucks that I never got to see even a single episode of this show. Dang it.

    Fact Checker

    April 17, 2017 at 7:07 pm

  20. I am imagining the day, 20 years from now, when young Grover entirely repudiates the liberal Wasp/Jewish upbringing that has tormented his mind and soul for 20 years, tracks down his father, who is now a firebrand Jihadi, converts, and blows up a nail bomb at the NYC marathon.

    Daniel

    April 17, 2017 at 7:36 pm

  21. Good talk on Vox podcast starting at 21:00 about the progress of destruction of the immigrant community: http://www.vox.com/2017/4/17/15294810/trump-immigration-enforcement-crackdown-problem

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 17, 2017 at 8:47 pm

  22. Breastfeeding: all problems are mother’s
    Formula: all problems are baby’s

    Most moms are taught to give baby every possible advantage, no matter what the cost to them personally. If breastfeeding makes your baby 1% smarter or healthier… Of course formula is better than nothing.

    onepercgrl

    April 17, 2017 at 11:21 pm

  23. There once was a lad from Moline,
    Who was weaned at the age of nineteen.
    Said he, “I’ll admit
    There’s no milk in the tit,
    But think of the fun that it’s been!”

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    April 17, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    • Bahaha!

      S.J., Esquire

      April 18, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    • An original composition?

      Stealth

      April 18, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      • I wish.

        Peter

        ironrailsironweights

        April 18, 2017 at 10:50 pm

  24. interesting article on Breitbart about Feinstein’s latest townhall where she was jeered by her lunatic base for not being enough of a left winger: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/17/dianne-feinstein-heckled-at-town-hall-for-not-being-left-wing-enough/

    I had assumed that the Dem establishment would maintain control of the party for the foreseeable future, but maybe not. Remember that non whites, particularly blacks, muslims and latinos are very economically left wing. Young whites are also very economically left. In addition to this, most of the energy from The Resistance is from the Bernie wing of the party.

    As I have said before, what is saving the Democratic establishment is the blacks acting as a firewall for them in the Dem primaries, but can this last? The typical Congressional Black Caucus member is much closer economically to Bernie than to Obama.

    For 2020 the Dems should be fine since Biden is going to run, but he is the last guy who really hold both parts of the Democratic coalition together. Ultimately I see the Bernie wing taking over and when the do the Democrats are done.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 18, 2017 at 12:06 am

    • Theresa May (“Gray May”) has just called for a general election in UK in June. God, how I love how the Brits do it, compared to our drawn out agony. But that’s not my point. Which is: it’ll be her against a true lefty, Corbyn, and it has many portents for the future of the Democratic party. Corbyn is frankly pro-Palestinian, and many young Labourites are hard core Muslim. They have essentially pushed out the Jews from the Labour party.

      The US has more Jews, the Muslims are less radical, and money plays a greater part in US politics so Haim Saban will fight this to his last cent, but anyone who thinks the same impulses won’t burst out in US politics is delusional.

      gothamette

      April 18, 2017 at 2:14 pm

      • I agree it’s inevitable. Young white liberals are extremely pro Palestinian as are most blacks and latinos. In the long run their is no stopping the Bernie wing from taking over the party.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 18, 2017 at 11:19 pm

      • Yeah, I liked how the Brits had a new prime minister within maybe a week of the Brexit vote. That would have been like Obama resigning after the 2014 midterms.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 19, 2017 at 4:19 am

      • The world is going to hell in a handbasket, and Lion contentedly snoozes, with thought of Girls in mind….

        1. Aaron Hernandez hanged himself in jail. Not to sound cruel but I didn’t think he had it in him.

        2. A Democrat Pajama Boy lost in GA and Politico just doesn’t get it. They need Lion to set them straight.

        http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348

        C’mon Lion, we know you have it in you. The PTB don’t understand that if Trump is losing support (and I’m not sure that that is true) it’s because he’s reneging on his populist principles.

        gothamette

        April 19, 2017 at 10:31 am

      • A basic cable station should make a movie or documentary about Aaron Hernandez. Today gave the perfect ending: he’s found dead while his former team is feted at the White House and Gronk sticks his head in the White House briefing room.

        I was thinking last week about Hernandez’s emotional state when he was acquitted in the double murder trial. On the one hand, he got off, but on the other hand, he was already in prison for life on another murder charge.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 19, 2017 at 11:21 pm

      • compared to our drawn out agony.

        You don’t remember how the Blair and Brown act seemed like it would drag out forever.

        They have essentially pushed out the Jews from the Labour party.

        British Jews have normally leaned Tory.

        Labour has always been pro-Palestinian. The difference between the Blairite wing and the Corbynites is that the former were better at hiding their anti-Zionism through diplomatic niceties. But both types of British Liberals were never Zionist when it counted.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 19, 2017 at 11:44 pm

      • Corbyn is just more crude and honest than Blair.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 19, 2017 at 11:45 pm

      • People are trying to spin GA-6 as bad for Trump and I just do not see it. Yes this an R+10 district but this is a special election. That means that it is for an open seat and that turnout is much lower than it will during a midterm or Presidential election which means that it gives a big advantage to the side with more enthusiasm, which everybody already agrees is the Dems right now.

        My guess is that Republican Handel beats Pajama Boy by 4 in the runoff. I guess that will be *sorta* a moral victory for the Dems, but Trump only beat Hillary by 1.5 there during General so if the Dems are going to win back the House in 2018, they absolutely need to be able to take this district in a special election.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 19, 2017 at 11:54 pm

      • MA apparently has an (outrageous) law which prescribes that if a prisoner dies while their case is on appeal, the conviction is automatically vacated. So by killing himself he ensures that his daughter inherits all his earnings and Odin Lloyd’s family can’t go after them because he’s now considered innocent in the eyes of the law.

        snorlaxwp

        April 20, 2017 at 1:07 am

      • @Snorlax-
        If that’s what happens w/the inheritance one could say Hernandez died with a measure of honor. Like I said, I didn’t know he had it in him.

        @Otis, “I agree it’s inevitable. Young white liberals are extremely pro Palestinian as are most blacks and latinos. In the long run their is no stopping the Bernie wing from taking over the party.”

        We’re on the same page but don’t underestimate the power of the donor class in US politics. They’ve run the show since at least the Robber Barons. (My historical knowledge doesn’t go back further than that.)

        @Pinsen, “Yeah, I liked how the Brits had a new prime minister within maybe a week of the Brexit vote. That would have been like Obama resigning after the 2014 midterms.”

        But that would lead to instability! It’s obvious – the UK is an unstable banana republic!! (JOKING)

        “I was thinking last week about Hernandez’s emotional state when he was acquitted in the double murder trial. On the one hand, he got off, but on the other hand, he was already in prison for life on another murder charge.”

        I hardly knew who he was, seriously. But you’d have to live under a rock not to have heard about him, so I looked up his background on Wikipedia, and saw that he’s half Italian and half-Puerto Rican. That’s a white nationalist nightmare combination. (I’ve been reading their holy texts, and I think my brain needs a detoxification.) Whatever, I have to admit that I felt a smidgen of pity for the poor dumb bastard. He’s got high T to begin with, isn’t terribly smart, was rewarded for being a great player in a killer sport, and he had no guidance off the field. Maybe in 1950 the management would understand that a man with an IQ of 80 and an MQ of 180 needs guidance. He’s truly like…Frankenstein.

        @TuJ: “You don’t remember how the Blair and Brown act seemed like it would drag out forever.”

        I do remember. The reason why they lasted so long was because they won elections and chose not to call them when they were in a winning but not crushing position. May is choosing to call an election because she is in a strong and crushing position. Thank you, General Pickett, for the lesson in military tactics!!

        “British Jews have normally leaned Tory.”

        Not so. British Jews have normally voted their class interest, unlike US Jews, who, well you know the saying, earn Episcopalian and vote Puerto Rican. Working class Jewish Brits were mainstays of the Labour Party. Gone with the wind.

        “Labour has always been pro-Palestinian.”

        False. Harold Wilson was a big supporter of Israel. The conservative party was the bastion of upper class British contempt for the Zionist cause. Google Glubb Pasha.

        gothamette

        April 21, 2017 at 1:54 pm

      • Not so. British Jews have normally voted their class interest, unlike US Jews, who, well you know the saying, earn Episcopalian and vote Puerto Rican. Working class Jewish Brits were mainstays of the Labour Party. Gone with the wind.

        It is so. Working class Jews were a small percentage of all British Jews. In general they have usually supported the Tories.

        False. Harold Wilson was a big supporter of Israel.

        He was an exception to the rule.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 22, 2017 at 12:22 pm

      • Working class Jews dominated demographically until the 1950s. You’re thinking of a small elite of British Jews. Then the Jews did what Jews do, get prosperous and move on and up. When they were working class they were Labour. Do some reading. I’m not gonna scour the internet for you.

        Harold Wilson was quite representative of a moderate faction of the Labour party which was basically pro-Israel. The real haters of Israel among the British were the old guard military elite, such as Glubb, who resented the loss of Palestine. I bet you probably never heard of Glubb Pasha before I mentioned him, and you’ll probably do a quick google and lie that you knew about him all along.

        gothamette

        April 22, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      • I think gothamette is right. I believe most upper class British Jews were a small number of Sephardim who had moved to Britain earlier, like Ricardo and Disraeli. Most British Jews were poor and working class Ashkenazim who fled Eastern Europe in the late 19th/early 20th century during the many upheavals there. Working class British Jews tended to be Labour supporters, and the Labour party back then was not anti-Semitic or anti-Israel. The anti-Semitic and anti-Israel types back then tended to be upper class Tories and military elite types who would range from casual anti-Semitism to rabid fascist and Nazi sympathizers.

        Tom

        April 22, 2017 at 4:32 pm

      • I know gothamette is right. Read any history of British Jewry, and British attitudes towards Palestine, and you’ll see that I’m right. I also spent a lot of time in Israel, and UK in my younger years, and picked up lore. That’s where I heard of Glubb Pasha. Read all about him, interesting guy. I knew people who fought against him in Jerusalem when he led the Arab Legion against the Haganah – and beat them, one of the few times an Arab army beat Israelis.

        Hannah Primrose, Countess of Rosbery, was a Rothschild, who were technically Ashkenazi, but of German origin. She was a one off though, not representative. Basically the British Jews were the London show, and the American Jews the Broadway show, similar, but different, because the countries were different. British Jews simply voted their class interest, in a society that was basically arranged according to class. American Jews were always more into “immigrant” politics, because the Dem party has always been a party of immigrants, since the days of the Irish.

        Of course, the white nats distort, twist and pervert all of this history. Whatever.

        But there is now evolutionary convergence, because identity politics has infected British politics with the mass importation of black and brown and Muslim immigrants, driving British Jews into the open arms of the Conservatives, en masse. Latest stats show that 8.5% of British Jews vote Labour.

        gothamette

        April 23, 2017 at 10:41 am

  25. Thread on NeoGaf about Trump’s next step in carrying out the destruction of the immigrant community: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1361401

    Note to Lion, the EO in question is attacking LEGAL immigrants. Both the legal and illegal portions of the immigrant community are under assault by the Trump admin.

    Otis the Sweaty

    April 18, 2017 at 12:08 am

    • 1. Reigning in HB1 visas is far from “attacking” anyone. Non-citizens do not have any inherent entitlement to work here or to continue to work here. They are here at the pleasure of the US government, period. Their ability to come here can be modified, and their tenure here can be modified at any time. They are here to serve a single purpose, until they would become a citizen. Until that time, which may or may not come, they are here to fulfill a purpose that, again, can always be re-evaluated.

      2. Illegal immigrants “attack” the U.S. population by vacuuming up social services, the tax base, committing crime, and unfairly tipping the voter base, over time, toward liberal dominance. See how language works?

      3. What did you do to combat illegal immigration before the Trump admin? If the answer is “noting”, then you have no right to complain about other immigrants who are affected by the election of a populist.

      Dave

      April 19, 2017 at 9:24 pm

      • *nothing

        *complain in regard to other immigrants being affected

        Dave

        April 19, 2017 at 9:26 pm

      • I think you’re misreading Otis. He thinks “attacking” immigrants is a GOOD thing.

        Hermes

        April 19, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      • Anyone with an ounce of rationalism understands that America is a scam.

        Meriprolestan’s elites understand Lion’s idea of status signaling. The entire nation’s White populace strives for self indulgence found in our liberal centers. Hence, we need to flood our country with menial workers and technocrats from the 3rd world. This is one of the cycles of decadence.

        JS

        April 21, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      • Meriprolestan’s elites understand Lion’s idea of status signaling.

        Are you on the Spectrum? Is continually using your own made-up words (“Meriprolestan”) a symptom?

        Dave Pinsen

        April 21, 2017 at 7:05 pm

  26. With the thoughts you'd be thinkin

    April 20, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    • How did anyone make fruit juice before computers???

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 20, 2017 at 7:32 pm

      • The point of the bar code was so you couldn’t buy generic, third party bags for the machine. But you don’t need the machine anyway; you can just buy a bottle of the same stuff at Whole Foods for less.

        I don’t really get the point of juicing though. Isn’t the fiber in the fruit and vegetables good for you? Get a Vitamix and you can drink it all. Super easy to clean, too.

        Dave Pinsen

        April 21, 2017 at 2:18 am

    • It seems like the Juicero machine was a flop, not value transference. Squeezing its proprietary juice packs by hand gives you the same result with the use of gadgetry. The investors were duped as they tried to dupe the proprietor.

      JS

      April 21, 2017 at 12:50 am

  27. Best take on Girls so far:

    Dave Pinsen

    April 20, 2017 at 4:03 pm

  28. Here are some of the best shows on TV if you can’t stand political correctness: True Detective, Fargo, Homeland, and Billions. I would have included Game of Thrones, but they went all feminist last season.

    CamelCaseRob

    April 20, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    • Oops, I forgot about “Better Call Saul”.

      CamelCaseRob

      April 20, 2017 at 6:46 pm

  29. Mates, you should taste the formula before you talk – it’s absolutely disgusting! So if you don’t like it it, why stuff a baby with it? We evolved this way, why go against Darwin?

    Yakov

    April 20, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    • Have you done a blind taste test against human breast milk?

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 20, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      • What for? We evolved to have milk that we find tasty. This is very simple. Think: cow’s milk and formula, do you need a blind test to know which is better? No! Why? Because it’s apples and pineapples, obviously.

        Yakov

        April 20, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    • Have you done a blind taste test against human breast milk?

      Is the bosom in question Kate Upton’s?

      The Undiscovered Jew

      April 20, 2017 at 9:28 pm


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