Lion of the Blogosphere

Looks bad for France

There’s no way that Marine Le Pen can win the runoff election next month. She didn’t even beat Macron in the first round, and now all the forces of French propaganda are telling people they must vote against against Le Pen. Every losing candidate, no matter how much they hate Macron, are loudly saying to vote for him.

So France is going to get a President fully committed to open borders and who praises Angela Merkel’s policy of unlimited immigration of Muslim refugees.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

April 24, 2017 at 7:28 am

Posted in International

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  1. While we’re inclined to root for the French, perhaps it’s better that some parts of the West are destroyed by immigration sooner rather than later. It gives the rest of the West (and the other civilized part of the world — viz., NE Asia) more time to recognize the problem. It’s better than everyone bleeding to death together.

    And France, for its tourist allure and cultural association with refinement and beauty, makes for a good sacrifice. If visitors went to Paris and found it to be indistinguishable from Lagos, that would contain a message that no amount of media propaganda could fully repress.

    That said, I don’t think Macron is more open-borders than France has been for the past generation. He’s the status quo candidate, aiming to continue the slow bleed. Perhaps the ideal candidate is one committed to actively recruiting Africans by the millions, using the French navy to help ferry them.

    Wency

    April 24, 2017 at 7:55 am

    • If we are to sacrifice a European country let it be one without nuclear weapons and nuclear infrastructure. Sweden is better from this perspective, plus its more geographically isolated.

      DN Poolside

      April 24, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    • Harsh and callous of you to say, but it’s a good point. Tourists who go to Paris excited to experience rich culture, good food, and Parisians with stylish clothes are disappointed to see burqas and kebab shops.

      It’s not just white Americans. How many Koreans want to go to Paris to see hostile Muslims glaring at them, police marching through the streets with machine guns, and an increasingly fearful atmosphere over when the next terrorist attack will strike?

      I love Europe and wish the show would go on forever there, but it’s their own damn fault if they don’t wake up and organize, the way we have.

      Sid

      April 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      • Muslims in Paris is not a new thing. Paris was already not a “French City” 20 years ago. My first trip in the 90s, I saw plenty of children of Sub-Saharan immigrants running around the public squares and bakeries selling filo dough pastries.

        JS

        April 24, 2017 at 10:47 pm

      • I went there in 2002 and was blown away by how many Muslims there were. I haven’t been there since, but more and more people who go there are bummed out.

        Sid

        April 25, 2017 at 12:47 am

      • if they don’t wake up and organize, the way we have.

        America is still more fucked than any western or central european nation. That may change in the coming years but at this point I’m doubtful more than a few have even imported a problem comparable to our 1960 10% black population, let alone what we have now.

        Magnavox

        April 25, 2017 at 12:40 pm

      • I will say that if you were to put a gun to my head and forced me to take in cheap, Third World immigrant labor, I’d pick Hispanics over Muslims any day of the week.

        Sid

        April 26, 2017 at 3:14 am

      • I will observe that I’ve twice in the U.S. witnessed a purse snatching/pickpocketing or its immediate aftermath, having lived here all my life, but I witnessed 3 such incidents in 2 days in Paris back in the 90s. Not sure if the perps were Arabs or Gypsies. But contra JS, the city was still French, even if there were minorities about.

        @ Magnavox — The U.S. becomes nonwhite faster than Europe, though our nonwhites are generally better — more Asians, and even Mexicans are better than Muslims/Africans.

        There are aspects of Muslim immigration that are worse than the slave-descended population in the U.S. An observation that was once made to me: you can walk alone through even relatively bad black neighborhoods in the U.S. in broad daylight and expect an uneventful visit. I’ve done so a few times in the past, and nothing has gone wrong for me. If you head into the Muslim Paris suburbs in broad daylight, someone is going to accost you, or so a left-wing Frenchman once admitted to me.

        Wency

        April 26, 2017 at 10:09 am

      • I will also add that I’ve been in poor Mexican neighborhoods in Phoenix and didn’t feel unsafe.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 26, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      • I will say that if you were to put a gun to my head and forced me to take in cheap, Third World immigrant labor, I’d pick Hispanics over Muslims any day of the week.

        Muslims aren’t monolithic. American muslims are much better than european ones, a disparity that is only going to grow with all the refugees. But my loose impression is that overall american hispanics are about as bad as european muslims. But we have more hispanics than any western or central european country has muslims, and we have 13% blacks, and we have southern whites. And even America’s successful minorities like asians and jews are probably more trouble than they’re worth.

        Magnavox

        April 26, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    • ” If visitors went to Paris and found it to be indistinguishable from Lagos, that would contain a message that no amount of media propaganda could fully repress.”

      I think it’s already serving that function now.

      Mike Street Station

      April 24, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    • Video. I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the numbers but its a point of view:

      Islam is taking over Europe and is has nothing to do with weapons or wars.

      Rifleman

      April 25, 2017 at 9:22 am

      • Is this Africa – Japanese girl on Paris vacation

        Rifleman

        April 25, 2017 at 9:14 pm


      • Compare to Minsk – only white people, no illegals, no immigrants, no Muslims.

        Yakov

        April 26, 2017 at 1:22 am

      • I couldn’t watch the whole thing. Too sad.

        Christopher Caldwell, must reading:

        https://www.city-journal.org/html/french-coming-apart-15125.html

        Does anyone have accurate statistics as to when the demographic tipping point will come – and what I mean is, when the population of young men age 18-30 will be half Muslim/black, in France? Because that is when the shit hits the fan.

        gothamette

        April 26, 2017 at 11:14 am

      • Oops… wrong link

        Yakov

        April 26, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    • “While we’re inclined to root for the French, perhaps it’s better that some parts of the West are destroyed by immigration sooner rather than later. It gives the rest of the West (and the other civilized part of the world — viz., NE Asia) more time to recognize the problem”.

      Seriously, that’s not how “letting some parts of the West be destroyed” will go, anymore than letting any more than “some” parts of the U.S. be destroyed has led to any significantly effective vaccination effect in the USA. Once you give ground, the ground is effectively gone. Trends tend to trend, and are more and more difficult to reverse as they trend.

      “And France, for its tourist allure and cultural association with refinement and beauty, makes for a good sacrifice. If visitors went to Paris and found it to be indistinguishable from Lagos, that would contain a message that no amount of media propaganda could fully repress”.

      You underestimate the Press’s will and ability to change history, suppress news, and spin a narrative in perpetuity. Giving up Paris would be an immense loss. You must be joking.

      Dave

      April 25, 2017 at 9:25 am

    • “And France, for its tourist allure and cultural association with refinement and beauty, makes for a good sacrifice. If visitors went to Paris and found it to be indistinguishable from Lagos, that would contain a message that no amount of media propaganda could fully repress.”

      It happened to me,

      I had a 10 hour overnight layover in Paris, so I decided to get a room at a hotel served by the Paris airport shuttle bus. Scary. The staff were all Africans. there was one bathroom down the hall which was small and filthy. It was so creepy that I slept in my clothes and put a blouse on the pillow so I wouldn’t have to put my head directly on it. It was just eewwww!!! The hotel itself was a new building. They were still finishing it. If I ever were to go back to France, I would be very careful and not choose anything in a medium price range. As my mother used to say about certain events and locales, “But, my dear, the people.”

      not too late

      April 26, 2017 at 9:11 am

  2. Like the rest of Western Europe, France is choosing the route of suicide. It’s that simple.

    peterike

    April 24, 2017 at 8:05 am

    • As goes the U.S.’s slow suicide, France’s suicide is helped ever along as the voting immigrant population increases. Many of those doing the choosing are doing so because it is legitimately within their self interest to do so. This is the fatal flaw with democracy, in general. It provides a viable way for a foreign population to displace / destroy the native one over time.

      Dave

      April 25, 2017 at 9:28 am

  3. The World Wars were double knockout punches for the European nations. Their faith in nationhood and their best men were all lost fighting against kindred peoples. Kindred peoples that can no longer unite in defending themselves from very unkindred enemies imvading across the borders. Tragedy.

    fakeemail

    April 24, 2017 at 8:26 am

    • Sagacious observation. I’m gonna remember this.

      Yakov

      April 24, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    • This is is not just WWII.

      This is US State Department. Most of Europe is a satrapy of the United States. None of these French politicians can explain what exactly they oppose about Le Pen.

      map

      April 25, 2017 at 1:33 am

    • Not quite. Europe was conquered by America – that is the problem.

      darkreformation101

      April 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm

  4. MLP Would win if they banned Thurd World immivaders from voting.

    Mr Curious

    April 24, 2017 at 8:33 am

  5. True and sad. Marine Le Pen is more extreme than Trump on emigration and has a Sanders program on economic matters. She is like Trump and trade and patriotism. Her party is more far right than Ukip. It’s like BNP. Old people are scared to loose their savings. MAcron is the opposite to whay people wants : free market, open borders and tough policies against non pc opinions. Take Berkeley and Stanford board and make an administration with them.

    Bruno from Paris

    April 24, 2017 at 9:01 am

    • You would be better off under the Communist, Mélenchon, as President than Macron.

      Stalin and Mao had enough prole common sense not to allow their Muslim minorities to run wild in the streets setting off bombs.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      April 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

      • TUJ–“You would be better off under the Communist, Mélenchon, as President than Macron”

        If I was French he’d certainly be my second choice. And I noticed that in surveys of second choice voting preferences, 50% of Mélenchon supporters preferred Le Pen.

        prolier than thou

        April 25, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      • Yeah but the French are not going to kill the families of the terrorists which is pretty much what you have to be willing to do to tap into the miniscule amount of self control the nuts possess.

        not too late

        April 26, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      • If I was French he’d certainly be my second choice. And I noticed that in surveys of second choice voting preferences, 50% of Mélenchon supporters preferred Le Pen.

        That trend is remarkably similar to what was seen in the German elections of 1932 and 1933 –

        https://pragmaticallydistributed.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/the-french-presidential-finalists/

        The record of the Eastern Bloc in suppressing native Islamic insurgencies is fairly robust and gives reason to think Mélenchon might not be as intransigent on the topic as standard French Socialists like Macron. Chinese Muslim separatists were quite timid during the Mao era (the Great Helmsman’s torture chambers would challenge the faith of the most devout Muslim insurgent), while Stalin officially classified Chechens as a “criminal nationality”.

        Macron is simply an unreformed Comteian Progressive (AKA EU Supranationalist). This means he expects the French working class to vote overwhelmingly for him so that he can get on with destroying the last of them with open trade and open immigration of Third World lumpenproles.

        Because the mainstream Technocrat Left can no longer hide the fact they despise white proles, no one except Progressives should be stupid enough to be surprised at seeing what remains of the French working class waver between the (wrongly labeled) “Fascist” Le Pen and the (rightly labeled) Communism of Mélenchon in a mirror image of the 1932 and 1933 German elections:
        Modern observers who look back at the Progressive movement from the late 19th to early 20th centuries are often surprised at how freely that movement’s leaders spoke up in favor of Communism. Leaders such as Upton Sinclair were obfuscating for Stalin’s purges as late as the 1930s –
        It is also true that I have been studying the problem of Russia as earnestly as I know how for twenty years. There have been few days during that period that I have not sought some new facts and pondered them. I have had many a heartache over the things which have happened in Russia— so different from what I hoped for. I watched Gorky all through this period, and I know how he suffered and how more than once he wavered. But in the end he made up his mind that the Soviet regime was the best hope for the workers of Russia, and that is my conclusion today.
        Though this is not well understood today, the reason why early Progressives got away with this was because Communism was seen by many Proletarian voters at the time as an ordinary workers party. Proletarian voters often identified with a number of its objectives even if they did not vote for it.
        And proletarian voters were no inconsequential force. 19th century Proletarian radicalism had significantly broader popularity and momentum than Sociology did. This would continue to be the case throughout most of the 20th century and left Sociology in a position where it had no choice but to hug close to the rising force of Proletarian Revolution.
        The working class vote was once so important that even Hitler, though on the extreme right, had to make his case to them. A little known, and ironic, fact about the German elections of 1932 and 1933 was that Hitler competed with the Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands for segments of the same working class bloc. Hitler’s effort to incorporate them into his electoral coalition was so successful that the KPD leader, Ersnt Thällman, felt compelled to adopt some of Hitler’s nationalist propaganda in order to restrain the defections of normally Socialist and Communist voters to the Nazis.

        If the French Left makes an appearance in the second round I prefer it be Macron who takes the stage on their behalf. Since EU Supranationalists have pretended Islam is compatible with Western society regardless of every fact loudly saying the contrary, it can only be, in my view, fitting that when civil war finally breaks out in France for the man at the ship’s helm be the Comteian Progressive Macron who, by all accounts, has sincerely convinced himself Islamic terrorism does not exist.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 26, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    • MAcron is the opposite to whay people wants

      Then why is he winning?

      Magnavox

      April 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      • Macron did NOT win anything, he had 23% of the vote in the first round with all the media, the machinery of the Socialist party (PS) and a sitting president supporting him.

        DJGB

        April 25, 2017 at 12:33 am

      • Stupidity, inertia and fear.

        map

        April 25, 2017 at 1:53 am

  6. Le Pen and her father were fringy 15 years ago. Now the entire political establishment from right to left has to join forces to defeat her. Five more years of Islamic terrorism will discredit Macron. Keep the faith.

    Andrew E.

    April 24, 2017 at 9:16 am

    • I agree, plus: you can’t predict the future. I do agree w/Lion that in the short run it looks bad for France.

      And I lost $50. Oh well, I bet my conscience. Like the Hillary voters, I went with her, and I lost.

      gothamette

      April 24, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    • That’s why I’m not ready to give up on this election. Muslims want to Muslim, so there could be more terrorist attacks between now and the election.

      Mike Street Station

      April 24, 2017 at 4:23 pm

      • Muslims want to Muslim….

        Back in the 80s, I used to love Ron Darling, even though I never darled.

        gothamette

        April 25, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    • Le Pen Senior came in second in first round elections in 2002 just like Le Pen Jr. just did.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2002

      Magnavox

      April 24, 2017 at 7:21 pm

      • Marine Le Pen is a worldwide figure and symbol for the nationalist French. A rallying point for Western patriots across Europe and the Anglosphere. Completely different. Don’t be your usual stupid self.

        Andrew E.

        April 24, 2017 at 9:50 pm

      • So she went from only being part of the french fringe to being part of a broader pan Western one? Still sounds fringey to me

        Magnavox

        April 25, 2017 at 7:50 am

      • MLP is neither fringe nor extreme. She struggles only because she’s opposed by the entire might of the establishment and the instruments of power they control i.e. political class, industry, banking, media, etc. The establishment may be in power but it’s the one that’s fringe and extreme. It merely influences mainstream opinion. If the establishment were neutral then she’d have this in the bag.

        I think of it like this. The instruments of power are like the wind and public opinion is like a ship. It’s a lot easier when one has the wind in their sails than when they’re fighting a headwind.

        destructure

        April 26, 2017 at 1:52 am

  7. Anything is possible, but it seems unlikely that Marine Le Pen will win the run off at this point. Things could always change.

    Only a few months back, polls had Le Pen at almost 30%. In the end she polled just 21% so she was fading.

    There is a chance that Le Pen’s association with Trump hurt her in the election. Trump is unpopular and viewed as incompetent in western Europe. Geert Wilders, the anti-Islam Dutch politician, did worse than expected in recent Dutch elections and that was blamed on his association with Trump in voters minds.

    mikeca

    April 24, 2017 at 9:33 am

    • “Trump is unpopular and viewed as incompetent in western Europe.”

      Hilarious that these same people see Obama as some kind of mythical genius. I think even more than Americans, Euros are (1) prone to status signalling and (2) swayed by their mainstream media. This is why Le Pen does better with 20-somethings than 60- and 70-somethings, even though you’d think the old farts would most of all see how horrible France has become thanks to immigration. The old Frogs are still getting 100% of their info from the globalist media that backs the Macron-puppet, while the youts are being exposed to more crime-think.

      peterike

      April 24, 2017 at 11:39 am

      • In France overall unemployment is around 10% (which is high), but unemployment for young people is in the 20-25% range. One can see why young people would like the system changed and would oppose large scale immigration.

        mikeca

        April 24, 2017 at 5:09 pm

      • Immigrants in France are generally low skilled and lower IQ individuals, engaged in menial work. Most of them come from her colonial past. Think North Africa, Cameroon and Mali. The better groups are the Vietnam people and the Chinese (who don’t belong there).

        JS

        April 24, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    • Good points. My interpretation of what you’re saying is that these populists have a good message, but that they are bad candidates. Now, what would happen if a good candidate with the populist message came along?

      A Kris Kobach for example. He’s young and untainted by association with the buffoonish Trump. The disappointment I felt at his being snubbed may turn into an advantage.

      gothamette

      April 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm

      • A Kris Kobach for example. He’s young and untainted by association with the buffoonish

        He was supposedly the one feeding Trump all his buffoonish bullshit about voter fraud. And he has the standard shitty republican economic views.

        Magnavox

        April 24, 2017 at 7:24 pm

      • It’s not buffoonish garbage to point out that there is voter fraud. It may have come out that way from Trump’s lips, but the concept is totally valid.

        As far as his standard Republican economic views go, I don’t really care about that. That’s why we have Democrats. Anyway all Presidents are moderate Republicrats on economic matters. The President is the great compromiser on those matters.

        I’m amazed by the turn around the right has had on economic matters. I bet 5 years ago you were snarling about welfare cheats.

        gothamette

        April 26, 2017 at 10:44 am

    • My interpretation of what you’re saying is that these populists have a good message, but that they are bad candidates.

      Marine Le Pen is a skillful politician who did the best she could with the cards she was dealt.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      April 24, 2017 at 6:26 pm

      • Agreed. Marine Le Pen is about the best you could expect for a rightwing politician. And, of course, she inherited it.

        The problem is that highly talented politicians are inevitably going to be influenced by the élite circles they have access to. The more successful they become, the more they are surrounded by élites. As decent people, they adapt to the social norms of their peers. But now their peers are the people who are the source of Poz. Conservatives + Poz infection = the Republican Party as we know it.

        Trump is semi-immune to this process because of his unique personality, background, and career. The most reliable antidote is family loyalty (Rand Paul has above-average integrity for a Republican). This is not infallible: I doubt if President Ivanka would be a lot better than any Democrat. If there is hope, it lies with the sons.

        Greg Pandatshang

        April 24, 2017 at 9:32 pm

      • Marine Le Pen is about the best you could expect for a rightwing politician. And, of course, she inherited it.

        The problem is that highly talented politicians are inevitably going to be influenced by the élite circles they have access to.

        I don’t agree Marine Le Pen comprised with the elites on anything. She could have toned down her anti-euro rhetoric (because the French fear the economic consequences of leaving the euro) but that’s obvious only now with 20-20 hindsight. Given what she had to deal with she handled the race as well as was feasible.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        April 24, 2017 at 11:23 pm

      • I agree with you completely. I may have failed to communicate my point clearly. I think Marine Le Pen is great. You can’t reasonably expect better. It’s not a coincidence that she’s an heiress rather than an arriviste.

        Whether she compromised on anything, I don’t know. Jared Taylor seems to think she’s nearly a sell-out, but he’s not a political strategist; there’s no reason to assume that the best possible competitive candidate is going to be good enough for his standards.

        Greg Pandatshang

        April 25, 2017 at 2:27 pm

      • TuJ,

        I love this, I really do. As the Russians say, paper will stand anything. You’re the guy who gets the basics of the British Jewish community so wrong, it’s laughable. Go back to gabbing on about micro-economics, or whatever it is you write about. Maybe you know something about that, but about history and people, nada.

        There was a little thing called the German invasion of France, and the French collective consciousness is branded with that. The name “Le Pen” is associated with the anti-Semitism and Vichyism that got them into the last mess.

        She’s a terrible candidate. Terrible. She has awful baggage.

        The French are in a bind. Nationalism got Europe into huge trouble, caused wars that they staggered out of bloody and battered, and now that they need it, they can’t muster up the balls. It’s sad.

        About immigration, I’m tired of listening to the maniacs on this board who are opposed to immigration. It’s not immigration per se that’s the problem, it’s the kind and the numbers. France is fucked because its immigration is brown and black. The browns are Muslims and the blacks are black. None of this would be happening if they had 5 million Polish immigrants. They would have problems. France had Italian immigration in the 19th century and there was much violence against them. (I’m sure TuJ can tell us all about this.) Many “French” people have non-French ancestry. But they eventually were absorbed because they were Christian, and white.

        This meal will be impossible to digest.

        gothamette

        April 26, 2017 at 10:50 am

      • I don’t see how the French would have to stop using the euro. Other countries use the US $ as their currency and we sure aren’t going to keep them from it. I don’t think the EU can do anything to stop them using euros just because they leave the EU.

        not too late

        April 26, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      • ” If there is hope, it lies with the sons.”

        Heh, sly wink.

        Mike Street Station

        April 26, 2017 at 6:54 pm

      • Goth’ette, I’m a little backfooted at your gripe about anti-immigration maniacs. In the modern West, “immigration” is implicitly non-white and often non-Christian. Most everyone’s opinions about immigration are based on the assumpton that that’s what we’re talking about. If there were a lot of Swiss people or Welsh people etc. who wanted to move to France or to the United States etc., that would be a very different world than what we have now, and would merit different responses.

        Greg Pandatshang

        April 28, 2017 at 11:08 am

      • Immigration is not just about the kind and quality of people. We have a serious overpopulation problem throughout the developed world. The long term sustainable population of CONUS is under 170 million, about where the numbers would have stabilized without immigration oddly enough. Most of Europe and east Asia is outright fucked in terms of overpopulation. Only the Japanese are being smart about this.

        We are going to hit intractable resource problems this century. There will be famines. Not just in Africa and the Mid East.

        bobbybobbob

        April 28, 2017 at 7:34 pm

  8. As time goes on there are more and more Muslims voting in the elections. France is doomed. Civil war is coming.

    Rosenmops

    April 24, 2017 at 10:21 am

    • Civil War in al-France? If only. And people thought they rolled over quickly for the krauts…

      Vincent

      April 25, 2017 at 2:54 am

  9. Hes literally the french paul ryan.

    For me, Paul Ryan is maybe the most loathsome figure. Because at least with the open borders people, you know where they stand – the abolition of Western nation states.

    The Philosopher

    April 24, 2017 at 10:27 am

  10. Maybe Macron is Le Pen’s best path forward — in the next election. How soon will it come?

    Luke Lea (@lukelea)

    April 24, 2017 at 10:39 am

    • 5 years. And no; then they’ll have to try the center-right, and then the far-left, and after that won’t it be time to try out the center-left again? Certainly better than that scary Le Pen lady.

      snorlaxwp

      April 24, 2017 at 4:41 pm

  11. Obviously misogynistic.

    It would be interesting if you had UK, Germany and France lead by women and HRC still sniveling about how she thinks she is making history.

    Lion of the Turambar

    April 24, 2017 at 10:42 am

    • I agree. If you’re French and don’t vote for Le Pen, you’re a misogynist and want to pay women pennies on the Euro. Come on France, break that glass ceiling!

      Mike Street Station

      April 24, 2017 at 4:25 pm

      • Other than Joan of Arc, has France had a female leader?

        not too late

        April 26, 2017 at 1:02 pm

      • @not too late

        Wouldn’t be square with the Salic Law.

        snorlax

        April 27, 2017 at 11:35 pm

  12. Maybe she could still win the whole thing. Remember not so long ago when voters in a certain trans-Atlantic country were told that they could not vote for someone, he’d never win, etc., etc. … that’s like “double-daring” a certain type of voter to use their vote to rock the establishment. I assume every country has these types of voters, even France. Britain certainly did!

    The only think black-pill is that Macron has positioned himself as an “independent” “outsider” candidate etc. (Even though he was a former socialist). I would look to the Left to pull this stunt more and more. No more insiders like HRC. They are even talking about running Zuckerberg or Mark Cuban in the US in 2020.

    stuartsullivaniii

    April 24, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    • … further evidence from Wiki: He added that he is “neither right nor left” and that he advocates “a collective solidarity”.[36][37] … With his party En Marche!, Macron’s stated aim is to transcend the left–right divide

      This is all sort of Trumpian isnt it?

      stuartsullivaniii

      April 24, 2017 at 1:03 pm

      • oops .. and further: With the launch of his independent candidacy and his use of anti-establishment rhetoric, Macron has been labelled a “populist” by some observers, notably Manuel Valls, but Macron rejects this term.[40][41].

        Again .. expect the Left to mislabel themselves “populist” from here on out after Brexit, Trump.

        stuartsullivaniii

        April 24, 2017 at 1:05 pm

      • Again .. expect the Left to mislabel themselves “populist” from here on out after Brexit, Trump.

        Certainly possible/likely in America but they’ve spent years in Europe lecturing the public, with pretty decent success, that “populist” == Nazi. Valls intended it as an insult.

        snorlaxwp

        April 25, 2017 at 12:10 am

      • “Certainly possible/likely in America but they’ve spent years in Europe lecturing the public, with pretty decent success, that “populist” == Nazi. Valls intended it as an insult.”

        Jesus f’ing christ, this is the kind of crap that goes for thinking on the alt-right.

        The reason why “populist” in Europe means Nazi is because that’s what it means. Nazism was a product of, and produced, a horrible civilization killing convulsion in Europe. No wonder they are leery of it.

        It would take a genius politician to get the pitch perfect response to mass Muslim/black immigration. And they don’t grow on trees. We’ll just have to muddle along.

        gothamette

        April 27, 2017 at 11:09 am

      • Nontheless, Macron is adopting elements of it.

        stuartsullivaniii

        May 2, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    • The polls never showed Trump couldn’t win. The MSM just chose to ignore Trump’s polling strength.

      Lion of the Blogosphere

      April 24, 2017 at 4:31 pm

      • They and their AI algorithms stupidly thought that Michigan and Wisconsin wouldn’t be in play, so they ignored data that pointed otherwise, which caused them to take those states even more for granted.

        Sid

        April 24, 2017 at 9:04 pm

  13. Truth is French liberals are every bit as hypocritical as their American counterparts. LePen hating voters who inhabit the chicest districts of Paris would be horrified if their neighbor turned out to be a Muslim labourer, but they’re outraged when workingclass Frenchmen object to living next door to Muslims with three burka-clad wives and their drug-dealing sons. In the next French federal election some years down the line Marine LePen or her equivalent will tally a greater vote count than this year, for the simple reason that problems that brought LePen into prominence will only continue to grow. There may yet be guillotines waiting for Hollande, Macron and their enthusiastic supporters.

    Roli

    April 24, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    • Whys wouldn’t the Fillon voters side with Le Pen?

      map

      April 25, 2017 at 2:01 am

      • Because they are cucks. It’s like Jeb! Voters that wouldn’t vote for Trump. They are the French version of NeverTrumpers. Never underestimate the power of cuckservatism in Western nations.

        B.T.D.T.

        April 25, 2017 at 2:06 pm

  14. Guys, look at history. Openly populist leaders make most voters in industrial democracies nervous as hell, for good reason. They never win except in times of extreme stress, upheaval. Trump won because he reassured people that he was a moderate in most ways.

    gothamette

    April 24, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    • This is true. Mainstream is mainstream for a reason. But mainstream isn’t always what the establishment says it as. So it’s possible to be anti-establishment and still mainstream. But one must be very savvy to pull that one off. Because the establishment will be doing their darndest to portray them as extreme, incompetent, etc

      destructure

      April 24, 2017 at 6:50 pm

  15. the alt right pushback has (hopefully temporarily) run out of steam. trump is increasingly being seen as a fraud and just george w bush 2.0, wilders failed, le pen is going to lose probably. i think our future propsects are bright but this is a dull patch and it goes to show that you cant make these huge shifts over night.

    james n.s.w

    April 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    • The Left fails to realize that Trump was their last chance, not the Right’s.

      map

      April 25, 2017 at 2:03 am

  16. Her relative finish in the first round isn’t particularly relevant. Macron is basically the hip, trendy version of Hollande. Le Pen is Le Pen. Filon aped Le Pen’s immigration rhetoric but is far more free market on economic issues. Mélenchon was the “communist” candidate but it should be noted he is virulently anti-Zionist, extremely negative on the EU, anti-NATO, and favors restoration of normal relations with Russia.

    So if you look purely at the ideology of the four candidates that each got 1/5 of the electorate there seems to be more room for Le Pen to make gains than Macron. The only thing Macron really has going for him is the complete support of the Establishment but that is a double edged sword. Le Pen needs to stress Macron’s Rothschild Banker background.

    PerezHBD

    April 24, 2017 at 2:47 pm

    • “Le Pen needs to stress Macron’s Rothschild Banker background.”

      She is. She’s already come out calling him the oligarch’s candidate after all the establishment parties endorsed him.

      destructure

      April 24, 2017 at 7:11 pm

      • That won’t help with all the people that think she’s a crypto nazi. Anti semites are obsessed with the Rothschilds.

        Magnavox

        April 25, 2017 at 5:50 pm

      • I wasn’t even thinking about the Rothschilds’ being Jewish. I was referring to Macron being in bed with the establishment while pretending to be an outsider. She’s been bursting that bubble by referring to him as the “oligarch’s candidate” and pointing out that the entire political class has endorsed him.

        (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXmnStQOLDI)

        destructure

        April 26, 2017 at 11:02 am

  17. Maybe Macron will be so terrible the French military will launch a coup and put a nationalist government in power.

    Jew613

    April 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    • When Paris was put under lockdown after Bataclan the French military was sort of functioning on autopilot while Hollande was hiding in a corner.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      April 24, 2017 at 8:41 pm

  18. I remember some people here had unusually strong opinions regarding De Blasio’s personal/family life. What to make of Macron?

    anon

    April 24, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    • Well, he did marry his secondary school teacher. That’s why she’s 64 and he’s 39.

      Anthony

      April 25, 2017 at 3:50 pm

  19. Its hard to find a way forward with no establishment support. Trump was able succeed because he hijacked the Republican party and then got enough of the apparatus to win in addition to what he got on his own. He could only do this because of our primary system that lets the people choose.

    If Trump had to go third party, he could not have won.

    Dan

    April 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    • Bith the US and France have a 2 party run-off. The difference is that in the first round all the candidates have to swear allegiance to either the Democrats or Republicans. The French system is actually easier for an outsider to win, neither candidates in the final round are from the 2 traditionally big parties.

      DataExplorer

      April 25, 2017 at 8:52 pm

  20. The problem is the French are so deeply invested in the ideology of “egalite” that it is deeply ingrained in the culture. Without Leftism, the French would be just food and fashion snobs. It is too much of an identity crisis for most French to embrace the Far Right.

    DataExplorer

    April 24, 2017 at 8:18 pm

  21. Le Pen’s economic and trade policy is retarded. I probably couldn’t bother to show up to vote for her despite the immigration issue.

    Anyway, people keep talking about demographic projections in Europe over the next ten and twenty years. I think the important lesson to keep in mind is actually Kosovo. The Albanian population hit the tipping point and the local Serbs went from chill to RAHOWA on a dime. People keep thinking in terms of linear projections with regard to demographics in Europe (and also USA, to some extent). I do not think that’s what’s going to happen. In a bunch of these countries there will come the tipping point moment and it will be horrible for everybody.

    This stuff about France becoming majority black and arab is nonsense. Not going to happen. The key thing is finding a path where there’s no bloodbath in 20 years.

    bobbybobbob

    April 24, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    • Exactly. The Right is buying into the Lefts framing.

      There is no chance of any white country allowing non whites to take over. It is just not how human beings operate.

      Otis the Sweaty

      April 24, 2017 at 11:34 pm

      • South Africa

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 25, 2017 at 9:57 am

      • South Africa never had a large white population. It was only around 20% white. It was a case of minority rule and control being lost to the majority. The case of France and other countries where majority rule and control are lost would be different.

        Tom

        April 25, 2017 at 12:54 pm

      • zimbabwe

        james nsw

        April 25, 2017 at 1:10 pm

      • Every country in the Middle East and North Africa (Algeria a second time, 1300 years after the first). Angola and Mozambique. Every Latin American country. Most major cities in America and Europe. If you want recent cases where whites lost their ruling nationwide majority, Cuba and Kazakhstan.

        snorlax

        April 25, 2017 at 10:51 pm

      • Well if you are going to go back that far then what about Charles Martel? The Greek war of independence from the Turks? The Spanish Reconquista and the Great Kebab Removal that followed it?

        DataExplorer

        April 26, 2017 at 8:43 am

      • There were not a lot of people in South Africa when the Europeans showed up. Once they made SA into a functioning economy, they were swamped with African migrants. Most blacks in SA were immigrants. So, it is not really true that SA was not built by whites. It was. Blacks did not create at it as a high functioning country and they are not maintaining it as such.

        not too late

        April 26, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    • “This stuff about France becoming majority black and arab is nonsense”
      Maybe not in all the country , but in the big cities there is a chance for it .

      eyaldavid

      April 25, 2017 at 12:44 am

    • I’m afraid it really could happen. The French didn’t even fight the Nazis. And they’re far more PC now. I don’t think you understand their psychology. In their minds the blank state ideology is paramount. There is no such thing as race etc, only French men and women.

      The lioncub

      April 25, 2017 at 1:25 am

      • France declared war on Germany. They didn’t have to do that. Germany had no interest in France and indeed the French declaration of war seriously complicated Hitler’s plans as it necessitated fighting and defeating France before he could start his war with Russia.

        PerezHBD

        April 26, 2017 at 12:56 pm

    • Wasn’t there a point where white South Africans were expected to make a heroic final stand?

      Instead, they went gently and quietly into that good night.

      DFT

      April 25, 2017 at 4:00 am

      • South Africa needed to get rid of its black population by all means necessary, but it didn’t. In Rhodesia an orderly transfer to a black majority rule was sabotaged by the western countries and we got Mugabe. The demise of the West is definitely possible and not unlikely.

        Yakov

        April 25, 2017 at 10:26 am

      • >>In Rhodesia an orderly transfer to a black majority rule was sabotaged by the western countries and we got Mugabe.

        How could there ever be an orderly transition to black majority rule? You may have orderly black rule for a few months or a year or two at the most, then things inexorably begin to fall apart, and at an increasingly accelerated pace. If you are a white man, and you want order, you need to segregate. Sure you can have some token blacks in position of authority, but not black rule, as in Detroit and many former decent US cities.

        Daniel

        April 25, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      • South Africa had an overwhelmingly black majority and white rule was maintained only thanks the oppressive Apartheid system. Apartheid was never sustainable. De Klerk managed to get 68% white approval to end Aparheid, nothing like that could ever happen in any western country.

        The rest of the West is different: The US won’t become majority minority until 2050 at the earliest and the electorate won’t become majority minority until well into the 2060s. And keep in mind in every western country there is large scale ethnic attrition of non whites into the white majority.

        Otis the Sweaty

        April 25, 2017 at 4:53 pm

      • ‘How could there ever be an orderly transition to black majority rule?’
        You are right, but Mugabe was the worstof the choices.

        Yakov

        April 25, 2017 at 9:56 pm

      • ” And keep in mind in every western country there is large scale ethnic attrition of non whites into the white majority.”

        Huh? Non-whites can’t become whites. What are you saying?

        not too late

        April 26, 2017 at 1:56 pm

      • “Wasn’t there a point where white South Africans were expected to make a heroic final stand?”

        White South Africa had the key to their salvation for many decades, and threw it away. They had divided the country into “Bantustans” and every black person was assigned to one, even if they worked outside of their designated homeland. The problem, as history has shown from the Romans inviting the Vandals up to our shell game of encouraging illegal immigration and amnesty: Cheap labor is so tempting that we’ll destroy entire societies in order to get it.

        Mike Street Station

        April 26, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    • Why is it nonsense? Why is it not going to happen?

      CamelCaseRob

      April 25, 2017 at 4:20 am

      • “there is large scale ethnic attrition of non whites into the white majority.”

        What does this mean? Are you talking about mixed race marriages? Doesn’t really happen with Muslims, mixed race marriages are very rare and the few that do occur, the Muslim side of the family almost always succesfully demand that the children are raised as Muslims.

        DataExplorer

        April 26, 2017 at 8:51 am

    • The Albanian population hit the tipping point and the local Serbs went from chill to RAHOWA on a dime.

      And how’d that work out for them?

      snorlax

      April 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm

  22. Terrible comment.
    1. The media has been demonizing LePen and telling people to vote Macron for months, it would be more of the same.
    2. There is a lot of room for growth, Fillon´s voters are all catholic right wingers, with them Marine has roughly 40% of the vote. Melenchon¨s communists will not campaign or agitate for a Rotschild banker and MLP¨s economic program would be very pallable to them (Frexit, no more euro)
    3. This is not 2002 when everyone joined together to vote against JMLP.

    DJGB

    April 25, 2017 at 12:46 am

  23. I was on a family vacation in Frogtown years ago and Paree was full of muzzies and bruthas back then. Must be worse now.

    Vincent

    April 25, 2017 at 1:27 am

  24. Is this a reason as to why Spain is Just Superior (JS) over other Euro toilets? Even American liberals think so.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/03/16/520281185/unlike-elsewhere-in-europe-the-far-right-in-spain-stays-on-the-fringe

    I’ve spoken to many Europeans who visit their neighbors and Spain is their favorite country. Why?

    Northern Euros and especially Anglo Proles, don’t know how to run their countries.

    JS

    April 25, 2017 at 2:02 am

    • Spain has basically the highest unemployment and lowest fertility in Europe. Other than the scenery, it is a terrible place, populated by numbskulls.

      Luckily it will be replaced by an Islamic republic, before I am dead. I will literally outlive Spain, and probably France too.

      Lowe

      April 25, 2017 at 12:50 pm

      • Spain has better hedonism than the Anglo Prole world. Free sun, siesta and sangria.

        Numbskulls in America work their asses off just to have a wee bit of fun.

        JS

        April 25, 2017 at 9:06 pm

      • Spain has basically the highest unemployment and lowest fertility in Europe.

        Good point. JS is delusional and has an OCD obsession with anglo=prole/America=prole attitude.

        If Europeans wont reproduce and protect their borders they will be demographically REPLACED.

        That is simply a fact.

        Rifleman

        April 25, 2017 at 9:19 pm

      • Spaniards are a mysterious race who’ve practiced White Supremacy to the fullest, and we try it on the Jews, Gypsies and Muslims.

        We’ve done it, try this and try that…the rest of Europe could only imagine. So who’s delusional?

        JS

        April 25, 2017 at 10:20 pm

      • Spaniards are a lazy race that wants the benefits of hard working nations without breaking a sweat. Anglos are superior. Think: what’s their national sport? Bullfighting. Killing poor animals. Brits like boxing where two men have a fair fight. Way superior. I love boxing, but why torture and kill an animal? Especially a good healty bull, who can be bred for offspring?

        Yakov

        April 26, 2017 at 12:40 am

      • How is this for a program to honor Christian saints?

        http://www.eurotourguide.com/en/costa-blanca-north/events-calendar/teulada-fiesta-sants-de-la-pedra

        What would Jesus think of this?

        Yakov

        April 26, 2017 at 1:00 am

      • Spaniards are a mysterious race who’ve practiced White Supremacy to the fullest, and we try it on the Jews, Gypsies and Muslims.

        We’ve done it, try this and try that…the rest of Europe could only imagine. So who’s delusional?

        You are delusional because you are living in the past.

        It’s not what you “have done” its that you ARE done!

        Your birth rates are the worst in Europe. What is your future? Your past?

        Europeans are NOT reproducing at replacement rates so you will be replaced by others – Africans and Muslims mostly.

        That is a fact of biology, no escaping it.

        There is no immortality. You reproduce and then you die.

        Or you just die and are replaced by other people’s reproduction.

        Simple as that.

        Europe, and Spain’s, future is black, brown and Muslim.

        Le Pen can do nothing about it.

        She can’t even get elected.

        France’s new leader is a childless, sissy man married to his mother.

        Rifleman

        April 26, 2017 at 8:00 am

      • Spaniards aren’t exactly lazy. Their country is between a 1st world and a 2nd tier country. It’s more livable than Italy Greece or Israel.

        JS

        April 26, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    • “Northern Euros and especially Anglo Proles, don’t know how to run their countries”

      Spain has about 40% youth unemployment amongst plenty of other problems both social and economic.

      There was an awful lot in the article that you’ve highlighted that are highly contentious. For example, the author says

      “When NPR approached 82-year-old Acero Rodriguez in San Cristóbal, she introduced herself as a “Castilian” — from central Spain — rather than as Spanish. That kind of regional self-identification helps protect against far-right groups stirring up nationalism across the country, González-Enriquez says”

      To me all this shows is that Spain has not succeeded in creating a nation to which most people want to belong. In that very basic function they have failed, and whilst this article seems to think this makes Spaniards less nationalistic and therefore more moral, all it actually means is that they have subsititued this nationalism with other kinds–Basque, Catalan, etc. This has the negative effect that they have the option of viewing issues affecting other parts of their putative country with indifference. This is hardly a virtue and is just another reason why this nation will not persist in the long run.

      I also thought that this line if argument was odd-

      “Nobody complains about immigrants being on welfare in Spain, because Spanish government benefits are pretty scant. Unlike in the U.K., for example, there is no housing benefit, child benefit or long-term unemployment benefit in Spain”

      I have always heard that NPR is left wing and liberal, the American equivalent of the BBC. But these kind of people are generally in favour of what they see as European-style welfare states and benefits. But here she seems to be making an argument AGAINST welfare states. I’m not sure what to make of that. Perhaps she is just not that bright and has not thought through the implications of what she’s saying. On the other hand, maybe this is one more small sign that left wing socialists are abandoning their previous belief in welfare and state intervention and embracing globalist-capitalist laissez faire using the defence of ‘diversity’.

      prolier than thou

      April 25, 2017 at 2:18 pm

      • Both France and Germany offer generous welfare packages for Muslim immigrants and anybody wanting gov’t dole.

        JS

        April 25, 2017 at 10:22 pm

      • Spain has little far right nationalism because they’ve imported few Muslims. If Spain wants poor worker bees, they can import from Latin America, which share a common language and culture. Don’t want far right nationalism, don’t overrun your country with foreigners. It’s pretty simple.

        Mike Street Station

        April 26, 2017 at 7:23 pm

      • “Spain has little far right nationalism because they’ve imported few Muslims. If Spain wants poor worker bees, they can import from Latin America, which share a common language and culture.”

        Spain could not do that because to create a policy like that in a Democracy, a politician would have to publicly declare that they prefer Catholic immigrants over Muslim immigrants. Even in a country as based as the United States, Trump could not do that without the entire Left declaring him a Nazi and crying “resist” and getting the courts to block him.

        As far as I know the only reason why Spain has been spared in this refugee crisis is through luck of geography. Libya is a failed state with no border controls, so the migrants come via Libya and that means they arrive in Italy rather than Spain.

        DataExplorer

        April 28, 2017 at 11:32 am

    • JS, indeed ‘Spain is different’ as their tourism slogan says.

      The EU countries need to apply to become US States or commonwealths or something before it’s too late.

      Robert

      April 25, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    • FTA: “Nobody complains about immigrants being on welfare in Spain, because Spanish government benefits are pretty scant. Unlike in the U.K., for example, there is no housing benefit, child benefit or long-term unemployment benefit in Spain.”

      Also, unemployment in Spain is 18% Youth unemployment is 40%. So, yeah, mass unemployment and scant welfare benefits . . . Spaniards are’t great at running their country, either, and I say that with love because my mother is Spanish (though via Mexico, so I guess she’s just a colonial prole).

      But I think the article is correct that the ETA inured Spain to “terrorism,” so that it’s impossible to equate bombings with the “other.” The same dynamic exists in refugee-friendly Ireland, where the history of “the troubles” likewise make it impossible to act as though terrorism is something new that the dusky foreigners bring with them. Contrast Spain and Ireland with, e.g., Britain, Germany, and the U.S., which have no post-1950s history of homegrown terrorism (save a few scattered events). In the Anglo countries, regular terrorist incidents seems new and seem to correlate with a certain type of newcomer. Right-wing rhetoric is easier to take hold.

      Seth Long

      April 25, 2017 at 4:11 pm

      • Seth Long-

        “Contrast Spain and Ireland with, e.g., Britain, Germany, and the U.S., which have no post-1950s history of homegrown terrorism (save a few scattered events). In the Anglo countries, regular terrorist incidents seems new and seem to correlate with a certain type of newcomer”

        You clearly have no idea of how frequently Britain was subject to IRA terrorism. It was a common enough feature of British news in the 70’s and 80’s and early 90’s. They were also a good deal more deadly and effective than most Muslim attacks too. They bombed pubs in Birmingham in 1974, bombed the Brighton hotel where Margaret Thatcher and many of her colleagues were staying during the Conservative party conference killing several people, launched a mortar attack on Downing Street, bombed army barracks and killed many other soldiers besides, bombed the Baltic exchange in London causing over £800 million of damage, bombed a gas facility in Warrington, and of course there were many attacks in Northern Ireland. Back in the 80’s and 90’s there were announcements and signs at railway stations to be on the look out of suspicious packages, just like there are now. So the threat is not new at all.

        And I think it is nonsense to suggest that people will not be so concerned about Islamic terrorism because they have experienced other kinds before. There is a difference between the likes of ETA/IRA and Islamic terrorism which ought to be obvious to everyone, and certainly in Britain Islamic terrorism causes much more anxiety.

        The fact is that Britain could have chosen to give Northern Ireland away, and likewise Spain with the Basques, and life in Britain and Spain would have gone on. But Islamic terrorism represents an existential threat because it has no limited goals that can be appeased, and because it is merely the violent tip of a demographic iceberg that will turn Britain and Spain into foreign countries. IRA/ETA could never have achieved that. They are simply not the same and everone apart from you and the person who wrote this article knows it.

        prolier than thou

        April 26, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    • A nation that welcomes Muslims after having fought a Reconquista for 800 years has lost its identity. A nation that forgets its past has no future.

      Yakov

      April 25, 2017 at 4:15 pm

      • Spain is the only country in Europe where Jews became Catholics without falsity, and they capitalize on it. Jews were at forefront of the Inquisition, because by being a Catholic, you had power, privilege and status. There was no status remaining Jewish. There’s real meritocracy for you!

        JS

        April 25, 2017 at 10:26 pm

      • JS – I can’t believe I’m asking you a question, but here goes. Do the Spanish think of the Basques as Spanish? Do they think of the Basques as human? I’ve always had a weird feeling about them, like they are an alien race different from the rest of humanity.

        gothamette

        April 26, 2017 at 11:07 am

      • Basque are perfectly normal people. What are you talking about?

        Yakov

        April 26, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    • Spain has huge unemployment and overall a lackluster economy. A lot of people love Spain because of the sun, natural beauty, and its cheap.

      DataExplorer

      April 25, 2017 at 8:45 pm

      • Also Spain has not born the brunt of the refugee crisis, they are mostly arriving in Italy and Greece, so the Spanish have been sheltered from that mess.

        DataExplorer

        April 25, 2017 at 8:46 pm

      • Several years ago the Spanish economy was hit especially hard and youbger people hd huge unemployment. But do you think the political class considered reducing immigration? Nope. On the contrary, they loudly advised young Spanish to emigrate. Globalists are evil.

        destructure

        April 25, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      • Yes, Spain has better immigrants. Latin American mestizos and Moroccans are better than the boatloads of Sub-Saharans taken by Italy.

        JS

        April 25, 2017 at 10:28 pm

      • JS is either a professional idiot or a very dedicated amateur.

        destructure

        April 26, 2017 at 1:46 pm

      • All of Western civilization is turning to crap, but Spain is corrupting pleasantly. So Destructure, I’m not an idiot or an amateur. America is falling apart, and yet it is expected of its citizens to think the contrary and suffer. Why are useless Americans with useless jobs still running the rat race dream? Idle Spaniards know how to have a good time, and maybe they unconsciously understand LoftB topics like post scarcity, basic income, self actualization, human obsolescence and value transference that most Anglo Proles do not.

        JS

        April 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm

      • Again, this past summer, I met a prole from Middle America who left the country for the first time, and he went to Spain where he described Spanish Millennials as exuberant, fun loving, despite not having much. The same cannot be said of America, which is a breeding ground for beta male rage and other social pathologies.

        JS

        April 26, 2017 at 10:30 pm

      • If Spain is such a great place why did your parents leave? And why didn’t you go back instead of Canuickistan? Spain is a disaster. The evidence is how they vote with their feet. Emigration is through the roof because young people can’t find jobs. And the birth rate is extinction level. Spain is in a death spiral and you’re shooting your mouth off about how laid back and happy they are.

        You want to spin that as they “unconsciously understand LoftB topics”??? You can go to any housing project and find unemployed gits who are laid back and happy. Calling it “self-actualization” doesn’t make it smart. That’s just a SWPL word for hedonism. But at least SWPLs have enough sense to wait until after they’ve made their bones.

        PS: You weren’t even smart enough to understand the insult.

        destructure

        April 27, 2017 at 3:14 pm

      • Actually, “self actualization” is rarely used outside this blog.

        Lion of the Blogosphere

        April 27, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      • Maslow must have read your blog.

        destructure

        April 27, 2017 at 7:21 pm

      • I use it and hear it ( הגשמה אצמית) used a lot among my Hebrew speaking freinds and family. I don’t hear Russian speakers use it, though. Самоактуализация just sounds so weird. Do they use it in Spain?

        Yakov

        April 27, 2017 at 8:38 pm

  25. Marine Le Pen is called right wing BUT she is against American-style capitalism, deregulation, and foreign wars. She supports a strong welfare and a economy guided by the government. She is also socially tolerant and secular in outlook and lifestyle.

    Macron wants to cut welfare state, fire government employees, and deregulate. He wants France to increase military spending and intervene militarily in Syria.

    The “Left” has abandoned all pretenses of supporting work class people. They just want more immigration. And they will support a tax-cutting banker as long as he supports he immigration. This election proves it.

    Jimi

    April 25, 2017 at 11:59 am

    • Macron is the French Obama.

      B.T.D.T.

      April 25, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    • Economic policies are tough for ordinary people to understand. Stratus signalling over immigration, however, is a game for everyone.

      Lowe

      April 25, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    • Macron is a man who, even in his teens, saw no future for himself, as in having no descendants. That is why he married a post-menopausal woman.

      A man with no future leading a nation with no future. What a fitting choice.

      map

      April 26, 2017 at 9:12 am

  26. I dont get why Le Pen wants to leave the EU. Surely the main point of Britain leaving the EU is to prevent all these second generation Muslim EU citizens from places like France and Sweden coming into Britain once their economies and welfare states go bust. But France has the most welfare dependent Muslims in the whole EU, leaving the EU would simply trap them all inside, forcing France to have to deal with them on its own.

    DataExplorer

    April 25, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    • The Schengen agreement makes it difficult for France to control its borders. Also, once French sovereignty is restored, the illegals could simply be rounded up and shipped back to Africa. Starting with the criminals among them, of course.

      Lowe

      April 25, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    • Because without leaving EU, France will be able to change absolutely nothing: all big decisions are already being made in Brussels and they are made to benefit Germany. Hitler’s dream of EU controlled by Germans has come to life. Anyway, this is all moot. She will not be elected.

      Nice blog, dude

      April 25, 2017 at 11:37 pm

      • You think that millions of sub-saharans being herded into Germany, specifically, was “Hitler’s Dream”? Germany isn’t Germany if is it isn’t inhabited by Germans.

        Dave

        April 26, 2017 at 5:32 pm

  27. When i go to Puerto de Santa Maria or Malaga, the population is 97% white, the rest being some latinos and gypsies. Black guy (american soldiers from Rota) are very sucessful because they are perceived as a rarity there, by posh spanish girls. Spanish people are at the same time very proud of their culture and very open to everything foreign or different. It’s a mix of traditionalism and extreme open mindedness like in Almodovar movies. They believe French are more open minded than they are in terms of mores, but that’s not true.

    This morning i heard an old parisian lady saying that god gave women a longer life expectancy for them to take care of their husband until the end 🙂 [I suppose she thought about Macron’s old wife Brigitte as a bad thing]

    Bruno from Paris

    April 26, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    • Well obviously if you go to some little touristy town on the Mediterranean then you will be sheltered from multiculturalism. You would get a similar experience on a little town in France’s Mediterranean coast.

      DataExplorer

      April 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm

  28. 6079 Smith W

    April 26, 2017 at 7:15 pm

  29. if you didn’t get the memo…

    france is a joke.

    it’s just a country full of pseudo-intellectuals who smell bad.

    the mountain would have guillotined macron first thing.

    sad!

    now the frexit referendum will have to wait. if it were allowed the frogs would vote for it by a wider margin than the lobsters voted for brexit.

    even the people who voted for macron hate him. they just hated everyone else more.

    6079 Smith W

    April 26, 2017 at 7:39 pm

  30. 6079 Smith W

    April 26, 2017 at 9:41 pm


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