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Emmanuel Macron wins, Marine Le Pen loses

As I previously predicted. But that was such an easy prediction to make.

It occurred to me that the difference between Len Pen and Trump is that Le Pen understands her political philosophy, while Trump is a bozo who just happens, because of his strange psychological makeup, to have the same values from the fifties that he grew up with, but otherwise he has no political philosophy at all, and furthermore he seems completely unaware of the details of what his TruCon staffers are doing.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 7, 2017 at 5:50 pm

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  1. about 45% of youth backed le pen, while an overwhelming majority of boomerscum (and above) backed macron. while this is is promising, its difficult to see the national front not becoming some cuckified GOP/mainstream style conservative party. even trump, if he wasnt from the beginning, is fast going down that road.

    instead of doubling down on their anti-immigration and socialist stances, they’ll likely (if they haven’t already) interpret this loss to mean they need to be more accommodating, more ‘tolerant’, and more middling etc. you know what that means! marine is no jean-marie, though compared to trump she’s a veritable political philosopher.

    james n.s.w

    May 7, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    • “about 45% of youth backed le pen, while an overwhelming majority of boomerscum (and above) backed macron. while this is is promising, its difficult to see the national front not becoming some cuckified GOP/mainstream style conservative party.”

      The youth largely consists of uncucked whites and non-natives. It’s a double edged sword.

      Sid

      May 7, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    • They’re problem, as is Trump’s problem, is in creating arguments that are acceptable to an extremely liberal mainstream press. It’s easy. I don’t know why Trump doesn’t do it. He could easily take back his misconstrued words on Mexican rapists or the misconstrued words of this group or that group and advocate for the reduction of all immigration instead. This is more acceptable to liberals and independents because it does not discourage against their bestest groups. Trump is so frustrating. He could have won so easily. He always fell back on, “Were going to build a wall!” That doesn’t appeal to everybody. If he were a true populist, he could win much bigger, but he would need to constantly explain the need for reduced immigration. Saying immigrants came without permission isn’t a lofty enough reason for most people.

      Dave

      May 8, 2017 at 7:09 am

  2. On this blog we often speculate on the intelligence of politicians. I think Le Pen is much smarter than Macron. In fact, I think she’s probably as bright as any head of state anywhere. Macron, however, is a putz. I suspect he may have been the establishment’s attempt to simultaneously undermine and cash in on public resentment at themselves, Macron is the establishment’s pet poodle

    destructure

    May 7, 2017 at 6:04 pm

  3. Le Pen sure doesn’t understand business or economics. Her economic plan was basically to bring back the franc and then print it into oblivion, while making France an even worse place to do business than it already is. Trump is never that stupid on trade or business matters.

    bobbybobbob

    May 7, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    • Yeah, she’s basically InfoWars-tier on economics. Simultaneously with printing the Franc into oblivion, she also wants to bring back the gold standard.

      snorlaxwp

      May 7, 2017 at 6:26 pm

      • OK, the gold standard is definitely Info Wars stuff. My opinion of Le Pen has dropped a lot.

      • How can you print the franc into oblivion and bring back the gold standard? They’re incompatible.

        Magnavox

        May 7, 2017 at 6:51 pm

      • “How can you print the franc into oblivion and bring back the gold standard? They’re incompatible.”

        Indeed, I was thinking the same thing.

      • It sounds like Le Pen wants for France what the Euro gives to the Eurozone. A fiat currency that the central bank can print as needed with gold bullion held as currency reserves which value floats with the market price of gold. This is not a gold standard. If this is what Le Pen wants, then she is right to want it.

        Andrew E.

        May 7, 2017 at 7:39 pm

      • Massively devaluing the currency then reinstating the gold standard to restabilize it is actually, if not necessarily a reasonable, certainly an interesting and defensible proposal (it’s basically a partial soundbite description of Moldbug’s). But there is something to be said for small-c conservatism in monetary/macro-economic policy, since the downside is so much greater than the upside, and radical measures have a history of leading to worst-case scenarios.

        But I doubt Le Pen is a deep thinker about economics. Occam’s Razor says her platform sounds economically-illiterate, incoherent and self-contradictory because she gets it from conspiratard tracts about how the globalist Jew bankers are hiding the 100mpg carburetors.

        snorlaxwp

        May 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm

      • It’s too bad Fillon was a corrupt nepotist. He was a solid compromise between economics and the National Question.

        From my vantage point, Le Pen is good politically, bad economically. Macron will stay the course with France’s negative trends. (This, BTW, has been my view of the Brexit.)

        Sid

        May 7, 2017 at 8:15 pm

      • I’ve attached an important chart that all of you have to see. It is the price of crude oil from around 1920 to 2002.

        Under the gold standard that existed until 1971, crude oil was $5 a barrel roughly for five decades. This is when we had a gold standard and gold was $35 an ounce.

        Look what happened to crude after 1974. That is what happens when your currency has only “sovereign” value.

        map

        May 9, 2017 at 2:09 am

      • And how exactly does inflation ruin everything? Under post 1971 inflation, we got computers, the internet, iPhones.

        Actually, relative to other currencies in the world, the dollar remains the world’s strongest currency.

      • Inflation creates a wealth transfer to the rentier class, which you complain about incessantly. It diminishes the middle class to the benefit of the rich.

        bobbybobbob

        May 9, 2017 at 10:03 am

      • Before inflation, we got cars, radios, televisions, refrigerators, rockets, aircraft, radar, microwave ovens, computers, nuclear power, discovering DNA, vaccines, and a man on the moon.

        map

        May 9, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    • Do you have a source for your claims? I do not speak French, but I’ve never seen anything in English language media indicating that Le Pen or her party support the gold standard.

      It is true that Le Pen wants to bring back the Franc, and while characterizing her expressed monetary policy as “print it into oblivion” is uncharitable, she supports allowing the government to borrow directly from the Bank of France. Seems entirely sensible to me in a country with deep, structural unemployment and a substantial output gap like France.

      Thorfinnsson

      May 7, 2017 at 6:50 pm

      • Cite for Le Pen and gold standard: “Le Pen specifically cited hopes of meeting Ron Paul, calling him ‘a great defender of an international monetary system anchored on the gold standard.'”

        snorlaxwp

        May 7, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    • Remember kids, libertarians are incapable of understanding political economy and therefore economics and especially macroeconomics. No civilized, sovereign country in history has ever printed its money into oblivion. The value of money is and always has been directly related to the power of the ruling sovereignty that issued it. Only when their sovereign power ceases does the currency they issue cease to have value. Nowhere is this more true than Weimar and Zimbabwe, the countries most often cited by Libertardians. The scarcity theory of money is a fantasy propagandized by a certain capitalist class in order to insure profits from usury flow to the owners of capital. It is nonsense.

      Regardless, Le Pen did not advocate for this. The Euro will disappear, as will most of the world’s large countries, as the world divides into smaller units of government and cede all monetary sovereignty to the United Nations. Within the next 10 years, foreign exchange with national currencies will cease and all foreign transactions will use a UN reserve currency similar to Keynes’ Bancor. When you understand that gold never has been used as a real currency, only as a reserve currency, you will understand Le Pan’s advocacy of an international monetary standard backed by gold. It is just for simpletons who don’t understand international balance of payments.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-20/trump-and-new-gold-backed-dollar

      http://af.reuters.com/article/metalsNews/idAFLDE7740FA20110805

      Helmut Schmidt

      May 8, 2017 at 12:25 pm

      • Israeli hyperinflation in the 80’s, high to hyperinflation continuously in the pre-Euro period of Italy (+Portugal, Spain, Balkans, Eastern Euro), high to hyperinflation continuously in the Roman Empire, high to hyperinflation continuously in every Latin American country (especially the most “civilized” ones), US hyperinflation under the Continental Congress, US high inflation in the 70’s, hyperinflation in France under John Law, high inflation in France in the 70’s-80’s, very high inflation in the UK in the 70’s, etc, etc, etc.

        Plenty of examples of high or hyperinflation where the government was in no danger of violent overthrow or foreign military occupation. Governments in periods of high inflation do tend to be “weaker” but that’s rather a chicken and egg phenomenon; the 74-79 Labour government wasn’t weak and unpopular until the 27% inflation (+begging for IMF bailout, rolling blackouts) primarily caused by their own idiotic policies. Nixon, Ford and Carter all started their administrations around 70% approval.

        snorlax

        May 8, 2017 at 3:18 pm

  4. Lion, what do you think of this report that says Trump may have impersonated an Italian mobster to threaten a man’s wife and kids? Do you think Trump really did it?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/if-you-keep-fucking-with-mr-trump-we-know-where-you-live

    Tom

    May 7, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    • Actually, that sounds like something Trump would do.

      • Might be something he would do, but not likely that he did do. He could easily pay someone else to do it without trace.

        not too late

        May 9, 2017 at 12:32 pm

  5. Le Pen’s main problem is that she’s a bozo, and unlike Americans, the French won’t Elect a bozo. That FN got close to 50% of the youth vote bodes well for the future as when you factor in demographics and likely voting patterns, it means they got close to 90% of the French youth vote. Marine Le Pen is finished. Marion Le Pen’s wing of the party takes over now (she received the blessing of Jean-Marie this morning). The person who suggested this would cause FN to cuck even more couldn’t be more wrong.

    PerezHBD

    May 7, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    • Marion is the beautiful and intelligent niece of Marine. She has a bright future with FN but she’s only 27 years old. I think Marine will run again in 2022 and win. FN will not cuck because Islamic terrorism is only going to get worse and the French youth are increasingly right wing.

      B.T.D.T.

      May 7, 2017 at 11:11 pm

      • I said that Marion’s wing now takes over. Whether Marion herself leads that wing and runs in 2022 remains to be seen, but Marine is finished. The fact her gay sidekick is all over the French media screaming about how Marine is the only possible leader of the party moving forward proves it. The rank and file never liked the direction Marine/Philippot were taking the party. They put up with it only because of the promise of electoral success. That argument was demolished last Sunday. Without it, they have no chance of surviving a challenge by Marion at the party conference at the end of the year. Marion believes what the overwhelming majority of FN members believe. Marine/Philippot do not. The FN is not the Republican or Democratic Parties. There is no “Establishment” pulling the strings and manipulating things behind the scenes. The will of the party members is going to determine everything, and they stand with Marion.

        PerezHBD

        May 9, 2017 at 8:02 am

    • The Maracon election is significant for only one reason: The major political parties in France had been sidelined. This would be like the Republicans and Democrats not running anyone in Presidential election.

      Couple this with the huge percentage of abstentions…basically, Maracon was not a landslide but a mere plurality. Worse, a plurality for a guy with no coalition.

      Maracon will fail miserably.

      map

      May 9, 2017 at 2:19 am

      • I agree that people were actually voting AGAINST Le Pen than FOR Macron. But that just shows you what a huge mountain Le Pen has to climb to win next time.

      • maricon

        not too late

        May 9, 2017 at 12:37 pm

  6. France elected a Rothschild Banker married to an an old woman because he’s gay. Per Houellebecq: if this is western civilization, then give me islam!

    fakeemail

    May 7, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    • Ummmmm. From what I read he pursued her when he was going 16 and she was his teacher, well before any political ambitions probably.

      Wt

      May 7, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    • He is now the Arch Cuck of gay Parise. It won’t be easy for him though. Both the far left and far right will hate him.

      B.T.D.T.

      May 7, 2017 at 11:13 pm

  7. Once France becomes majority Muslim, America, Great Britain, and Russia should coordinate strikes to neutralize France’s nuclear weapons and facilities.

    It’s akin to the Attack on Mers-el-Kébir in WWII, where the British under Churchill’s command launched a sneak attack and sank the French fleet before Hitler could get his hands on it. It was dirty business but only an idiot would let Hitler have a strong navy – or Sunni Muslims have the bomb!

    Sid

    May 8, 2017 at 2:28 am

  8. The alt-right press has been quite harsh on Macron’s wife Brigitte for being old and over the hill, and that seems unfair. However she may look now, she must’ve been pretty hot in her late thirties when Macron first laid eyes on her. Macron himself though is an amoral scoundrel who won big only thanks to France’s ignorant and scummy electorate.

    Roli

    May 8, 2017 at 3:12 am

    • It’s not unfair at all. He could’ve just banged her and moved on, or even married a proper wife and kept her as a sidepiece (much more accepted in France than in Germanic countries) until she hit the wall.

      Instead he not only wifed her up but wifed up an old crone with three children. So he destroyed his own chance of reproducing in order to marry an old bag with three kids near his own age.

      It’s frankly pathetic and even being gay doesn’t excuse it.

      Thorfinnsson

      May 8, 2017 at 9:20 am

    • What young man marries (and stays) with a woman that is past reproductive stage? I have no doubt Macron’s banking sponsors have Dennis Hastert level Kompromat on this guy.

      PerezHBD

      May 8, 2017 at 11:49 am

  9. Almost every one I know think Macron is Gay. But no one I know has any proof of it. Even people who were at ENA at the same time. And people says he is like bewitched by his partner. I also feel he lies like a child and he lies a lot. He is known do be very secretive and he is one of the most sociopath you can imagine (like a Carly Fiorina). I’ve heard story about his manoeuvres that are scary and some are printed. The program of FN in economics has changed so much over the year that it is certainly both a compromise and an evolving project. One of the far right concept is “politique d’abord” (the political aspect comes first).

    Marine was as charming as her niece when she was young. Look at this video from 2002 – she was 34 – with Melenchon : http://www.ina.fr/video/I10117531

    Bruno from Paris

    May 8, 2017 at 3:24 am

  10. In Paris, 90% of the people voted for Macron. In the 3d arrondissement where i live – bourgeois bohème from Haut-Marais – it was 93.4%. The lowest score was from conservative (16ème) and the chinese area (13ème) but with 87.5% for Macron. All megacities follow the same trend of a happy wealthy elite and loads of poor migrants who live from social welfare both being liberals.

    Bruno from Paris

    May 8, 2017 at 3:44 am

  11. both voting liberals Migrants are extremely- conservative. It’s interesting to see that Elisabeth Badinter – a liberal billionnaire whose father founded Publicis – didn’t like Macron, because she’s against reasonable accomadation with islam. Perhaps it is an ethnic solidarity because lots of low class jews suffer from the coexistence in muslim neighbourhood and even posh people are some times victim of it. Nathalie Portman told about the difficulty for her to be jewish in Paris (while at the same times saying it’s difficult to be muslim in other places of the world, she is careful and clever) .

    Bruno from Paris

    May 8, 2017 at 3:49 am

  12. A character like La Pen winning was entirely dependent on terrorist attacks prior to the election, and you just didn’t have enough of them. But that will likely change in the future.

    Mike Street Station

    May 8, 2017 at 6:27 am

  13. “…while Trump is a bozo who just happens, because of his strange psychological makeup, to have the same values from the fifties that he grew up with, but otherwise he has no political philosophy at all, and furthermore he seems completely unaware of the details of what his TruCon staffers are doing.”

    Trump is a media obsessed narcissist. He loved the campaign rallies where he could speak in front of big cheering crowds. He loved the lines that got the crowds cheering. He loved “build the wall … and make Mexico pay for it” because it always got crowds cheering. He didn’t care that building a wall would be a huge waste of money and he would never be able to make Mexico pay for it. He didn’t expect to win so he never expected to be held accountable for any of his campaign promises. He just said whatever would get the crowds cheering and never worried if any it made sense from a policy perspective.

    Trump does not understand how the government works. He is an outsider who has never held elective office, so that is not surprising, but Trump has apparently made no effort to figure out how government works. He has been very slow at filling position in his government. With the exception of Mike Pence no senior official in the Trump White House staff has any experience working in Congress. Bannon, Kushner, Miller, Conway all have no government experience. As a result the White House staff simply does not have the expertise to create policy in most areas.

    Trump just cares about his press coverage and has no interest in policy questions. Who knew policy was this hard?

    mikeca

    May 8, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    • mike CA is right.

      james n.s.w

      May 8, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    • As long as trump can repeal Obamacare and pass trumpcare, I’m fine with him.

      Wt

      May 8, 2017 at 11:55 pm

      • No one even knows what Trumpcare is. I don’t anticipate the world becoming a better place because Obamacare is repealed.

      • No one even knows what Trumpcare is.

        Trumpcare, as passed by the House, has the chance to push all the minorities (ie. poor people with no skills and not working with little prospects for work) out of the insurance market and give them second-tier care funded with welfare. Therefore, the productive working and middle classes (ie. white people) will no longer be subsidizing these people through their insurance premiums, making first-tier health care insurance less expensive.

        Andrew E.

        May 9, 2017 at 1:59 pm

      • Since no one is going to let people die on the streets, someone is going to pay for their healthcare, it’s just shifting the costs in a way that’s not obvious to you.

      • The savings come from the welfare cases getting second-tier care constrained by government budgets and rationing. Still not dying in the streets but neither a cadillac plan experience while the rest of us who are paying for our own care get a nice and pleasant experience at lower prices than we’re paying now.

        Andrew E.

        May 9, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    • That’s all cuck talk.

      Politics isn’t physics. Look at Paul Ryan. He’s been playing the game all of his life, yet has no where been successful in rolling back the left.

      map

      May 9, 2017 at 2:15 am


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