Lion of the Blogosphere

I predicted this

On November 26th I wrote that the MSM was trying to set Trump up for impeachment.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 18, 2017 at EST am

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  1. Yeah but did you predict that the Republicans would join the Democrats in trying to set up Trump for impeachment?

    Mike Street Station

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • i was thinking about this yesterday. impeachment destroys the gop. why would trump voters ever vote for those traitors ever again?

      those guys are stupider than i thought.

      • It’s been said a million times, but they really are the stupid party. What’s really disturbing is who stupid the GOP pundits turned out to be.

        Mike Street Station

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • If they go along with impeachment, I can’t imagine voting Republican again.

        Sid

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • “It’s been said a million times, but they really are the stupid party.”

        The DOJ appointed Mueller as Special Counsel, and it looks like Joe Lieberman is under consideration to be the next FBI director. Oh, and Jeff Sessions recused himself because he spoke with the Russian ambassador when he was a U.S. Senator.

        What’s irritating to me is how the Trump Administration is going out of its way to try to be as impartial as possible in this matter. It sounds like Mike Flynn was a kook, but guess what? He got fired!

        There’s no appeasing the Democrats or even reaching an understanding with them. They just have to be beaten again and again until they change.

        Since the Republicans aren’t fighting, it’s time for us to field alt-right Congressional candidates for 2018 in the manner of Paul Nehlen. And if the Republicans go along with impeaching Trump because Trump asked James Comey to lay off of Mike Flynn, then there’s no reason to vote Republican ever again.

        Sid

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • The GOP is a bunch of grifters just like their democrat friends. Trump stands between Joe Schmoe congressman and the $500k of all in salary and benefits they’d otherwise recieve. Absent all the graft (read: lobbyists contributions), being a congressman becomes another lower middle class/prole job.

        The congress critters are in a fight for survival to be able to send their kids to good private schools and eat out at fancy restaurants on the weekends on the backs of the American proletariat tax farm working class. You really think they will give up trying to steal your resources for their progeny?

        Trump is a threat to their gravy train because he stands to reduce the “skim” from the American economy done by the three parasite sectors: higher education, finance (I count law as a subset of this sector), and the biggest one currently by GDP, health care. While finance has the biggest per capita grift, healthcare spreads the grift far and wide between low level do nothing beaurocrats. You might be wondering why government isn’t being considered as a fourth sector. It’s a valid question and it’s really just because government is a conduit for all the other sectors to funnel the stolen taxpayer money. Call it the world’s largest most comprehensive money laundering operation.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • “. And if the Republicans go along with impeaching Trump because Trump asked James Comey to lay off of Mike Flynn, then there’s no reason to vote Republican ever again.”

        Trump was a black swan, so if he is gotten rid of, there is no reason to vote Republican because Democrats will be back in power again, amnestying illegals and making it demographically impossible for Republican to win again; a situation that many Republicans seem just fine with.

        Mike Street Station

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

    • Right! It’s McCain who saying that this is bigger than Watergate. Nothing could happen without Republican collusion.

      gothamette

      May 18, 2017 at EST am

      • McCain wants this to be bigger than Watergate.He certainly has a lot of help. He intends to get his personal revenge against Trump using the entire media and government.

        Mike Street Station

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • McCain is mentally ill. Really.

        I hope he reads this.

        Curle

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  2. Trump doesn’t need much help in this respect. What did people expect, hiring as chief executive someone who’s never done anything but work in a family business in a disreputable industry? (As a software developer I don’t like real estate hucksters stealing that word.)

    Anthony

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

  3. Peter Turchin, who studies societal breakdowns, has noted that intra-elite discord today is at its higher than at any other time in our history, including the eve of the Civil War, and he predicts widespread, intense political violence in our near future. With the Deep State, the Democrats, and many Republicans committed to removing Trump, I think his removal will happen, either by impeachment or assassination. The ensuing violence by some Trump supporters would lead to martial law and a possible military dictatorship. We are very close to the Venezuela crisis. Having lived (and sometimes cowered) through the 60’s, I really don’t want to see that again.

    bob sykes

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • “The ensuing violence by some Trump supporters”

      This would be minimal, scattered mostly in areas that don’t count (e.g. it won’t happen in NYC, where they will have street celebrations if Trump is assassinated or impeached), and put down violently by police/National Guard as needed. Any “revolt” would last, at best, a few days.It would only be significant if we went banana republic style and had the military join in the revolt. Which I, for one, would love to see, and I would welcome a military dictatorship if it was from the right side. “Liberty” is a lot of bunk anyway.

      peterike

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Back in the 1960s America was still 85% white, and had a reasonable level of cultural homogeneity. Not the case today, and thanks to identity politics this time around the violence will have the extra added bonus of having a tribal element to it. Yippee.

      Sgt. Joe Friday

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Elites, as a social force, are broadly united in opposing Trump, so even if his thesis is true Turchin’s model doesn’t account for what’s happening here.

      The Trump movement’s great weakness is that it doesn’t represent any elite faction anxious about its status. Ryan Landry’s recent essay, which does not mention Trump directly, gives a truer accounting of the situation and the grave challenges we’re facing.

      http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/05/14/elites-determine-if-a-rebellion-becomes-a-revolution/

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • No, you’re getting it wrong. I don’t speak for Turchin but my understanding of what he’s saying is that the alt right is made up of persons who would have been in the elite except for the fact that they have attitudes that preclude them from membership in the club.

        Richard Spencer is a perfect example of this he is the son of an opthamologist, went to an elite private school, went to Duke, and now he’s hanging around with a lot of people who he secretly despises.

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • If Richard Spencer’s a perfect example of Turchin’s thesis then it’s laughable.

        Richard

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • According to them, Trump’s presidency signals the fall of self actualization careers.

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-25/trumpocalypse-liberal-ivory-tower-academia-collapsing

        Most Americans outside of the LofB-sphere think work is synonymous with practicality or manual work. In essence, this proves my god given point that America is prole and remains to be prole, and Trump makes it even more so.

        JS

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • I don’t know anything about Spencer really, but in a world that wasn’t so focused on Harrison-Bergeron-like equalism, people like myself would’ve been given more assistance and opportunity to make it to the upper echelons (Ivy League, etc).

        And for those of us who made it there with the deck stacked against us would instead have had the massive advantages that Liberals grant to their in-network group. There’s something to be said for overcoming adversity, but society shouldn’t be adverse to its own best interests, ideally.

        Panther of the Blogocube

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • Work isn’t meant to be fun JS. Only pansies like yourself (the bourgeoise berret wearing Frenchman is your spirit animal) think work needs to have some kind of deeper meaning.

        Once this dispicable debt bubble ends you will all be reminded of what it means to truly be hungry and to have to work for your meals.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • America’s lack of collectivism and civic engagement (one calls culture), will be its own downfall. And it’s already happening.

        Why are so many Americans unhappy? Better yet, my story about a prole in Indiana who travels to Spain and was amazed at the youths who were in a lighter mood than his peers back home.

        This so called American delusion “exceptionalism” and its opulence…

        JS

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

    • “Peter Turchin, who studies societal breakdowns, has noted that intra-elite discord today is at its higher than at any other time in our history, including the eve of the Civil War”

      I quoted this guy in a previous comment. He’s the guy who described the outright is basically being over educated people who can’t find work commensurate with their intellectual needs.

      There’s also an eccentric colorful conservative name Bobby Lopez, who’s written about the modern academic. I’ll have to search around, but he wrote something very perceptive about this.

      gothamette

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • “He’s the guy who described the outright is basically being over educated people who can’t find work commensurate with their intellectual needs”.

        WELL, Well, well, which I have been saying along about Meriprolestan. It’s great country for those who like to consume frivolously and have a job (or 2 jobs for proles) to sustain such behavior. The country is a cultural wasteland.

        JS

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Perhaps this is the dawn of AI, and the end of human civilization – thanks to American capitalism, by the way.

        JS

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Why should there be enough work for the smart people? We are constantly saying on this blog how the left half of the bell curve has been left behind. Why can’t the same be true for a large number of smart people as well? What just because you are born with 150+ IQ that makes you noble and deserving of self actualizing work. This is contradictory to the Rawlsian views of this blog that genetics is a lottery and there is no inherent morality to a person. Only the genetic lot they draw.

        It’s a red queen problem. Humanity is always a struggle for status to attain reproductive resources. There are always X percentage of losers. Historically 80% of men were losers versus 40% of women (i.e. Didn’t get to reproduce). In 1950s America those numbers were at historic lows (probably 10% for men and 5% for women). Think of it as structural unemployment. Some base number always has to exist, due to idiosyncratic events like disease etc… But in the 50s it was minimized due to things like strictly enforced monogamy, we were entering a population growth cycle (i.e. The next generation was larger than the previous and hence better absorbed any residual bachelors of the previous generation dating younger women) and of course post WWII economic expansion helped most people attain some measure of status.

        Of course status is relative and always fixed, but in a dynamic environment, the future always seems uncertain so it feels like “you are in the game” and who knows where your status lot will relatively shake out? Hence the stability and optimum for the future.

        In a collapsing demographic environment, just as in a collapsing economic environment, people are fighting for increasingly scarce resources.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

  4. Why a special prosecutor with bi-partisan approval would be bad for Trump if there is nothing against him ? It should goes the other way around. I wonder why there couldn’t be a special prosecutor to hunt leakers also ?

    Just found that O’Reilly and Beck are joining forces. It could be huge in a near future.

    Bruno from Paris

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • Because the purpose of these special prosecutors isn’t to find the truth, it’s to generate bad press for Trump for the next 2 years or so. This will definitely go on through the 2018 elections. During the Valerie Plame “affair” The special prosecutor who was to find out who had leaked Plame’s identity to the press found out in the first week, and then proceeded to “investigate” for two years. He finally got a conviction on someone not even close to the investigation who’s recollection conflicted newsman Tim Russert’s recollection; therefore lying to the FBI.

      So the goal, bad press for Trump for two years or so and a conviction or two for a process crime that will have nothing to do with Russia or anything else.

      Mike Street Station

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • “bi-partisan approval”

      Meaning Democrats and establishment Republicans, who hate Trump and want him gone. Like I said in the other thread, only one of the Republican Party’s last seven presidential nominees endorsed Trump for President. The real party lines now are pro-Trump and anti-Trump.

      “I wonder why there couldn’t be a special prosecutor to hunt leakers also ?”

      Because that would nail Democrats and establishment Republicans.

      This is not about legality, or propriety, or public ethics, or protecting national security.

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Why a special prosecutor with bi-partisan approval would be bad for Trump if there is nothing against him ?

      Rifleman

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  5. So can we all agree that Romney should be setting up a government in waiting at this point?

    I am disheartened by Roger Ailes death. I feel he was probably the guiding force in getting Trump to STFU in front of the election and keep him on message. That force is now sadly missing.

    Lion o' the Turambar

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • heh, heh. Romney not keeping his mouth shut in front of ‘friendlies’ (47%) cost him any real chance at the Presidency. Well that and his cuckiness.

      Andrew E.

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  6. We are a long, long way from impeachment and it is likely we will never get there.

    In Watergate it took around 3 years, and during those 3 years Nixon was re-elected for a second term by a wide margin. It was not until Nixon was finally forced to release the tape of Nixon and his chief of staff discussing how to cover up the Watergate break in and Nixon agreeing to pay bribes to the families of the burglars to buy their silence that Nixon lost support of a significant number of Republicans in Congress. When it became obvious that Nixon would be removed by Congress, he resigned.

    I see little sign that Republicans in Congress are deserting Trump at this point. A lot of Republicans have gone to ground like they did after the Access Hollywood tape came out. As long as support for Trump is still strong with the Republican base, Republicans in Congress are not going to vote for impeachment.

    mikeca

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • but Nixon was popular

      Lion o' the Turambar

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • The liberal media has retconned that simple fact. From consulting today’s media/academic establishment one would think that Nixon was regarded as the plague. So untrue. In 1972, Nixon won every state except Massachusetts. At the end of his first term he was wildly popular with magnificent achievements (SALT, end of Vietnam war, rapprochement with both China and Russia, skillfully playing them against each other) under his belt, even achievements that Liberals to this day hold dear (EPA, OSHA, desegregation of southern schools).

        Daniel

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Trump is still very popular with the Republican base. In the House most Republicans come from very Republican districts. They realize they would be crucified in their district if they voted for impeachment.

        The Republican base gets most of its news from FOX and other right wing news sources. FOX has downplayed and ignored many of the developments of the last few weeks in their prime time opinion shows. The night CNN and MSNBC had wall to wall coverage of the Comey memo about Trump asking to end the Flynn investigation, Tucker Carlson did yet another story about the Clinton Foundation and never mention Comey.

        FOX is losing ratings because it is not covering the breaking news, but it is not losing the Republican base.

        mikeca

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Hannity debunked the Comey memo with Comey’s own testimony on May 3.

        map

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Nothing will happen officially for at least a few months until Mueller releases his report.

      Unofficially, the Deep State will be leaking maliciously throughout to erode Trump’s public standing.

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Those are good points but Nixon was a different kettle of fish than Trump has zero credibility. He’s basically a reality show bozo who has no Presidential authority in his persona. Nixon had a history of accomplishments to his credit. We were in the middle of a war, and people never like to change horses in the middle of a war.

      And the deep state is deeper now than in Nixon’s day. (Yes, I know who Deep Throat was, no bad puns.)

      I could actually see Trump throwing in the towel. I could see him resigning. That’s not very Nixon.

      I think Rex Tillerson is the real President.

      gothamette

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Nixon was viciously mocked and belittled just as Trump is. The press believed Nixon had no gravitas. In their minds he was a ruthless charlatan with strange connections to the Hunt brothers and other shadowy figures. He ‘smeared’ Helen Gahegan Douglas in their minds. He ‘smeared’ Alger Hiss while all the deep staters knew being a Societ spy was kosher during FDRs admin.

        All the lightweight celebs were encouraged to go bonkers with rage over Nixon.

        Moldbug is right. It was fake then it is fake now.

        Curle

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  7. The leftists editorials and readers have been saying they were going to impeach him long before then. I’ve been reading lefty editorials and comments saying it for almost a year. Long before the allegations they’re making an issue of ever came up. Which shows this is both politically motivated as well as engineered. Their goal was to undermine his agenda at best and overthrow a democratically elected president at worst. This is nothing more than an attempted coup under the color of law.

    As I said in a comment to another post yesterday, I don’t blame Trump for the mud being slung at him because I expected it. But I do blame him for his undisciplined shit show.. This special counsel won’t necessarily lead to impeachment. But it will cripple his presidency and undermine his ability to enact his agenda. And I’m angry that he gave the Empire the ammunition they needed to Strike Back.
    **
    I’d also point out that, since Sessions recused himself, that left it up to theDeputy Attorney General to handle the Russia thing. Rosenstein was appointed on April 26. So it took him all of 3 weeks to appoint a special counsel. He was about to be questioned by congress for supposedly recommended that Comey be fired. At least Trump initially blamed Comey’s firing on Trump’s recommendation. So either Rosenstein did it to get back at Trump. Or he intended to do it before he was even appointed.

    Either way, it’s worth reading his wiki. Upper middle class background. Ivy league. Relatives high up in government bureaucracy. Exactly the kind of background one should be suspicious of. It’s also worth noting his denomination is Reform Judaism. Which I’ve hear described as basically “the Democratic Party with holidays thrown in” and “the Democratic Party at prayer.” Very far left. Why put a guy like that in a position to torpedo the presidency?

    And you know who he named special prosecutor? Mueller. He seems like an honest, competent guy. But, once again, this guy comes from a rich background. And we all know how people who were born rich don’t like Trump’s boorish behavior. Plus he’s a long-time friend of Comey’s from the FBI. Wtf? Did Hillary not want the job or something?

    destructure

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • “But I do blame him for his undisciplined shit show.”
      Which makes it really difficult to defend him in polite company. Unlike some folks here, I actually have friends in the real world, and I’m finding it more and more difficult to stand up for him.

      gothamette

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • It isn’t just his boorish behavior. It’s the fact that he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time.

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • It isn’t just his boorish behavior. It’s the fact that he just doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time.

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • ” and I’m finding it more and more difficult to stand up for him.”

        Thats what the media is counting on.

        On the other hand Trump seems to be hell bent on feeding them more material. The ridiculous trash fire coverage (“Democracy Dies in Darkness”!!11!!!) would have already burned itself out if he could just be content with being a boring administrator.

        Lion o' the Turambar

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • New York’s not the real world.

        Curle

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • overthrow a democratically elected president

      Heh. This couldn’t even work as satire.

      You guys are coming apart at the seams. But then, you never had any sense supporting a moron like Trump. Clinton was also evil, but not as temperamentally unfit; just a center-right manager of empire.

      Trump’s not going to be impeached any time soon, if at all. Special prosecutors drag out investigations, and that’s exactly what Democrats want. They’d love to have ol’ Trump to kick around for the next two elections.

      Vince

      May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • Vince — The actual quote was “Their goal was to undermine his agenda at best and overthrow a democratically elected president at worst.” I find it odd that anyone would disagree.

        destructure

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

  8. 100% chance Trump doesn’t serve out his term. I’m surprisingly ok with it. I welcome our new Pence overlord. TRUMP will always be remembered as the man who defeated the Bush and Clinton dynasties through sheer force of will. An American folk hero.

    Two in the Bush

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • Work has already begun on doing the same thing to Pence. Getting rid of Trump isn’t going to change anything but the target.

      J1

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  9. The recent National Enquirer article about Seth Rich being killed by the Russians is part of this. How do you account for it? My way of accounting for it is that if the Russians were terrible enough to murder Seth rich, they are of such a vile caliber and anybody who has anything to do with them is there by tainted. And that includes Trump.

    And by the way, I think that the Russians are easily capable of killing Seth rich. They have a long history of offing people who do things they don’t like, as do we. The soft spot for Russians among commenters here is the something I understand, but I really don’t like.

    gothamette

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

    • “The soft spot for Russians among commenters here is the something I understand, but I really don’t like.”

      Lol! I wonder why?

      peterike

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Fuck you. I think it’s stupid to admire a country that is a sinkhole of corruption, has rampant alcoholism, a low life expectancy level, and is run by a thug.

        And did I tell you to go fuck yourself?

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • There I agree with you gothamette. Although you have to give credit where credit is due Putin did get life expectancies back up to late soviet levels!

        Magnavox

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • That’s a joke, right?

      map

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Russia has a history of killing RUSSIAN dissenters not citizens of first world countries.

      JW Bell

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • True. To kill an American in the US would be crossing quite a line. But there is something very odd about Rich’s death. I don’t buy NAM violence.

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Russia has a history of killing RUSSIAN dissenters not citizens of first world countries.

      JW Bell

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • National Inquirer wants impulse buys at shopping centers.

      Their low IQ readers have been conditioned like their parents to see “Russians” as a sinister threat.

      Rifleman

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • True. But they got John Edwards right, didn’t they? They were the only ones. It’s hard to remember this, but for a short period between Kerry’s loss and the rise of Obama, Edwards was the fair haired boy.

        gothamette

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  10. And why isn’t Trump proposing legislation that would actually fix the media? Why does Bannon who has spent decades in media not have any ideas? The media is far too concentrated geographically, ethnically, politically, educationally, financially in terms of ownership, class wise in terms of the employees, etc.

    We need legislation to break the media up and force them to hire and promote in a transparent and truly meritocratic way.

    Magnavox

    May 18, 2017 at EST am

  11. Here is Comey’s sworn testimony under oath on May 3 to the Senate Judiciary Committee, three weeks after Trump supposedly, according to The New York Times, asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn:

    U.S. Sen. Mazie HIRONO: If the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

    COMEY: In theory, yes.

    HIRONO: Has it happened?

    COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that — without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that [they] don’t see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I’m talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience.

    Mark Caplan

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • A bit of a smoking gun, but given the media, it will just be a sleeping gun.

      peterike

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Maybe people should check their youtube videos to keep their testimonials straight.

      map

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Comey’s out is that the question specified only “the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice.”

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  12. Really good article:
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/209090/middle-class-new-poor-daniel-greenfield

    “An American workers’ revolution will not be a Socialist revolution, it will be an Anti-Socialist revolution of the new poor of the middle class.”

    It will more accurately be an anti-Corporatist revolution. Corportions are OPEN BORDERS/LOW WAGES and they privatize the profits and socialize the costs. I’m so very, very sick of “pro-business” and “pro free trade” Republicans and other assorted cucked-out patriots.

    fakeemail

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • That’s a stupid article. All he does is make unsubstantiated claims about how poor people are super happy and have lots of kids. Doesn’t propose any solutions. It’s just an insipid attempt to have middle class people blame the poor and not the rich for their problems.

      Magnavox

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • No, it clearly states that the middle is attacked in tandem by the lower class and the govt. For those who can read between the lines, the rich and the corporations are the govt.

        fakeemail

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  13. Mark , you’re finding should have been widely reported by news media ! It is the interpretation of “hope” by the one who wrote the memo.

    Bruno from Paris

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  14. From Pat Buchanan’s latest column:

    Since July, the FBI has been investigating alleged Trump campaign collusion with Putin’s Russia to hack the DNC and John Podesta’s email accounts — and produced zilch. As of January, ex-CIA Director Mike Morell and ex-DNI James Clapper said no collusion had been found.

    Yet every day we hear Democrats and the media bray about a Putin-Trump connection and Russian “control” of the president.

    In the early 1950s, they had a term for this. It was called McCarthyism, and its greatest practitioners invariably turned out to be those who had invented the term.

    ….

    Washington is a bubble – Trump got 4% of the vote there. The Washington establishment/MSM have been determined to get rid of him since before he took office, He should stop playing into their hands.

    BTW, nobody wants to talk about the contents of the emails. Podesta and the Democrats have never disputed their veracity. They show that the DNC tried to rig the primary elections against Bernie Sanders, that the DNC routinely gave orders to their MSM lapdogs and that the DNC viewed most ordinary Americans as stupid and contemptible. Guess none of that’s imortant.

    Black Death

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  15. Liberals can screech for “impeachment” like sissies all they want but only the GOP House could ever make it a reality, they don’t have the guts to do anything.

    Any attempt at a “coup” or something of dubious fairness to Trump is simply not possible and quite laughable. The military is still controlled by staunchly conservative white men, and whites in flyover country are simply too well armed and would organize quickly.

    Liberals love to make it look like we still have a Klan member behind every tree starting 3 miles outside the beltway, or that LBGT folks and blacks are under constant physical danger from “racists” – but in their hearts they know the truth. And they are way too chicke*nshit to give the masses of conservative white people any REAL cause to get off their backsides and fight.

    Camlost

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • The House Republicans would be voted out in droves, if they allowed impeachment… especially over accusations as pathetic as we have heard for the last several months. Voting for impeachment might even mean the end of the Republican party. The base loves Trump, deeply even.

      I know that I love him, and probably every member of my extended family loves him. And these are people who never even watched his dumb TV shows. For nearly two years, Trump has been risking his business and social ties to speak the truth, loudly and publicly, and to put our silly-smart, self-service elites in their place. He’s the man.

      Any serious possibility of a coup against him makes me furious just thinking about it, and I’m definitely not the only one who feels this way. If the commies in D.C. are smart, and they value their lives, they’d better keep to their gay theatrics.

      Lowe

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Loved: “if the commies in D.C. are smart and they value their lives, they’d better keep to their gay theatrics”.

        Trump has taught me the feeling that serfs (not in a derogatory way) must have felt for their beloved King and anyone who speaks I’ll of the king is directly attacking all that we hold dear. Fuck them. Hang them at dawn. Fuck hang them whenever the rope is available.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

  16. Honestly, I have almost zero understanding of this whole situation.

    Trump made a suggestion to Comey that he might drop the investigation of Flynn? And that’s definitely Obstruction of Justice? Eventually he fired him and that looks bad, given that the FBI was investigating Russian ties among members of Trump’s campaign (but not Trump himself?). And then Trump allegedly shared intelligence info about ISIS with the Russians?

    This is why NPR is taking a short break from talking about transsexuals non-stop? This is why the republic must end?

    SWPL2

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Remember that Trump has absolute Constitutional authority to stop any criminal investigation with his Pardon power.

      • And declassify and release classified information, from what I’ve read.

        Rifleman

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Not really, since McCain would simply demand more Senate Investigations. The only way to stop this is plow right through it. Go direct to the American people. Incessantly mock the left and their deranged “fake Russia story”. Meet with Putin this summer and secure a grand nuclear agreement and alliance against ISIS.

        PerezHBD

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • Trump’s firing of Comey (as many public figures left and right had been demanding for months) did not stop the investigation, so there’s no motive for obstruction of justice.

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

  17. A special prosecutor has a blank check. Unlimited time and resources to take a investigation in any direction they want. If they uncover other impropriety during their investigation they can pursue it. And it occurs to me that there is plenty of Democrat criminality tied to this investigation. After all, this whole thing began as an allegation of election tampering and the email hacking by wikileaks, russia, etc is just the beginning of it, Everything in those emails is fair game, Any tampering in the election is fair game. And Hillary’s foundation took hundreds of millions from foreign governments. There are allegations Obama engaged in illegal wiretapping. There are allegations that Obama is running a shadow government to undermine a democratically elected president. There are allegations that deep state agents illegally leaked information. There are allegations that Soros funded political violence. Andm of course, we know damn well the msm has been meddling where they shouldn’t. Who knows what Mueller may find related to that. There are an awful lot of directions this could go in that would be very bad for the Dems. And Mueller’s investigators won’t be too particular who they get as long as they get someone. If they can’t find anything significant with Trump they’ll likely turn the Eye of Sauron on the Democrats. Before this is over the Dems may wish they’d kept their big mouths shut.

    destructure

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • I think you’re in for a huge disappointment.

      Richard

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • The Dems have a lot more dirty laundry mixed up in this than the Republicans. And it’s all sitting right in the middle of this investigation. Mueller may very well find some of it. That’s an observation not a prediction.

        destructure

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • I agree. This is a witchhunt for Republicans. Mueller isn’t going after Democrats. It’s going to be Republicans who are prosecuted for…something.

        Mike Street Station

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • Mike Street Station — I can’t imagine Mueller liking Trump. But just because the Democrats, deep state and msm are on a witch hunt doesn’t mean that he is. He’ll be turning over lots of stones from Democrats as well as Republicans. And if in the course of his investigation he uncovers compelling evidence of criminal behavior by Democrats then I have no doubt he’ll bring it to light. Once again, I’m not predicting this will turn into a major investigation of Democrats. I’m simply saying that they’re not immune from having their behavior investigated either.

        destructure

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • “I’m not predicting this will turn into a major investigation of Democrats. I’m simply saying that they’re not immune from having their behavior investigated either.”

        Not immune, but as close to it as possible. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be delighted if the investigation turned up some prosecutable Democratic malfeasance, but the history of these things is that the purpose is to get Republicans. If Dems thought they were in danger they wouldn’t be so ecstatic about it.

        If the investigation starts leaking like crazy, then you’ll know this is a witchhunt.

        Mike Street Station

        May 20, 2017 at EST am

  18. When President Nixon got into trouble it was because he was found to be complicit in obvious criminal activities such as burglary and bribery that everyone could see was wrong and he had to go. What President Trump is supposed to have done is boring technical stuff that the mass of the population don’t care about or wouldn’t know was wrong anyway, so there will surely be a huge blowback if the impeachers get their way.

    martin2

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • People do care about selling the country​ out to a country they hate. It wouldn’t sell so well as a narrative in fiction if people didn’t care.

      Magnavox

      May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Except the Russia narrative is not selling well to anyone. Not anyone rational at least. But there is a certain percentage of the country that have completely given themselves over to a mass hysteria that I think can only be explained as the result of a spell conjured by actual witches.

        Andrew E.

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Except the Russia narrative is not selling well to anyone.

        Maddow has high ratings on cable, Colbert’s ratings are up. The tards in the Democrat base are loving it.

        They think Putin stole the election from Hillary, Trump is his agent, Trump will be impeached and removed from office.

        Now they are figuring out what to do about President Pence.

        Rifleman

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • The Democratic base are a bunch of loons. The only thing that matters is are the college educated whites who voted Romney but didn’t vote for Trump buying the Russia stuff? The answer is an unequivocal “no”. That *could* change, but as of now those swing voters aren’t buying it.

        Doesn’t mean they aren’t sick of Trump and his drama, doesn’t mean that the Russia hysteria hasn’t hurt him, but so far those swing voters don’t buy that Trump is a Russian mole.

        Otis the Sweaty

        May 18, 2017 at EST pm

      • Rifleman, see my mention of spells and witches and hysteria.

        Andrew E.

        May 19, 2017 at EST am

  19. There is some ridiculous chicken little’ing going on in this thread. You guys sound like NeoGaf.

    When Trump fired Comey, a special counsel was inevitable. Trump knew damn well that Comey, the media, the GOPe and the deep state would retaliate. Rosenstein did the right thing and all accounts indicate that both Trump and his team are happy with how this is playing out. Even Ercuck Ercuckson, who is plugged into GOPe hacks within the administration, thinks that this is a good thing for Trump.

    My mother (who hates Trump with a passion) is a Federal Prosecutor who works very closely with many FBI field agents. Most of them do not like Comey. He may be popular with the desk jockeys in the Washington office but this media meme that he is beloved by the agents in the field is bullshit. Since Comey has been fired, we have seen a lot to show just how much of a partisan, grand standing hack he always has been, long before Trump came on scene.

    The investigation is going to drag on for years and unless it turns up a smoking gun, and even most sane Leftists don’t think that it will, then this simply isn’t going to bring down Trump.

    As for the GOPe wanting him out, what else is new? Actually, no other than Lindsey Graham has come to his defense. The only GOPers to really speak out against Trump are Kasich, McCain, Sasse, Amash and Curbello. Long time #NeverTrumpers who have 0 influence.

    I’m not here to say that all is well: Trump’s popularity has clearly taken a hit and we have a very important special election coming up in GA-06 next month that will signify big trouble ahead if we lose. But for now we have weathered the storm just like in the aftermath of the NBC tape. It’s going to take awhile to get things back on track but we are going to right this ship.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 18, 2017 at EST pm

    • “Even Ercuck Ercuckson, who is plugged into GOPe hacks within the administration, thinks that this is a good thing for Trump.”

      You mean, a good way to GET Trump.

      The Plame investigation didn’t “get” Bush and Cheney but it crippled his administration for years.

      Mike Street Station

      May 19, 2017 at EST am

      • Are you sure it wasn’t Bush’s 28% approval rating, failed war in Iraq, failure to pass Social Security reform and failure to pass immigration reform that crippled his administration?

        Otis the Sweaty

        May 19, 2017 at EST pm

      • “Are you sure it wasn’t Bush’s 28% approval rating, failed war in Iraq, failure to pass Social Security reform and failure to pass immigration reform that crippled his administration?”

        Those were all self inflicted wounds that the Bush administration deserved. The Plame investigation was a “trumped” up scandal.

        Mike Street Station

        May 19, 2017 at EST pm

  20. –McCain is mentally ill. Really.

    I hope he reads this.–

    ROFL in Hanoi. Cruel, but true. And if you think the Vietnamese hated him, you should to to some people in the Navy who knew him.

    Vincent

    May 19, 2017 at EST am

  21. This whole thing is so stupid. America has Russia on it’s knees. Removal of sanctions and excellent relations in exchange for American companies getting oil and gas exploration contracts. Are American politicians really that stupid to blow this one?

    Yakov

    May 19, 2017 at EST am


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