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Trump told Russians that Comey is a “nut job.”

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First reported by the NY Times.

(1) Who is leaking this stuff to the press? Why can’t Trump find the leakers and prosecute them for leaking classified information?

(2) Previous presidents used salty language, especially Lyndon B. Johnson, but the press never reported on it.

(3) Why is Trump saying this stuff when apparently the room is full of people who are hostile to him? Couldn’t he have taken the two Russians into a private room with just his topmost loyal staff members?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

May 19, 2017 at 5:38 pm

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  1. The simple explanation is that Trump actually is the buffoon we all thought he was between 1985 and 2015, and not the magic wizard that Scott Adams has been selling us.

    Peter Akuleyev

    May 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    • If true then the Middle East leaders he’s about to meet with will certainly treat him as a buffoon should be treated. Let’s watch and see.

      Andrew E.

      May 19, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    • and not the magic wizard that Scott Adams has been selling us.

      Adams was right, but only because he stole his ideas from Lion.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 19, 2017 at 7:26 pm

  2. Could be the Russians leaked it!

    IHTG

    May 19, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    • Not likely. The Russians don’t hate him. And why would they leak when it would turn of the spigot of valuable info?

      • It makes Trump look bad that there are yet more leaks. But the contents of what he said indicates that there is no conspiracy.

        Magnavox

        May 19, 2017 at 6:29 pm

      • It makes Trump look bad that there are yet more leaks.

        It makes Trump look great and proves he’s a political genius.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        May 19, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      • Is that one of those ridiculous things you say that is an unfunny person’s attempt at a joke or one of the ones that is just a stupid persons attempt at insight?

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 12:44 am

      • Is that one of those ridiculous things you say that is an unfunny person’s attempt at a joke or one of the ones that is just a stupid persons attempt at insight?

        You’re speaking of your own political analysis that said Hillary was a lock for the general election, and 99% of what you’ve said since then.

        The Undiscovered Jew

        May 20, 2017 at 11:43 am

      • If I thought I could predict the future I would obviously be off making my billions somewhere not commenting on here.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    • Based on Comy’s behavior and statements the claim rings true.

      Curle

      May 20, 2017 at 12:33 pm

  3. White House response to article: “yeah, and? Comey IS a nut job.” Heh. Good stuff.

    Bonus: the alt right and channers can make use of ‘nut job’ as an effective online meme for the next several years.

    Andrew E.

    May 19, 2017 at 5:57 pm

  4. Is Trump really that stupid to think firing Comey would make this all go away? That’s what I’m most concerned about..

    Kaz

    May 19, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    • The people in the comments here were going on and on about what a brilliant move it was. I said it was going to be a shit storm but then again I also said he was going to lose the election.

      Magnavox

      May 19, 2017 at 6:24 pm

      • It was the right move. Comey was a dog and getting rid of him did Trump no long term damage. A month from now it will be like this never happened, except that Trump will be more powerful and the congressional investigation will be dead, having been closed down in favor of a professional one.

        Otis the Sweaty

        May 19, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    • I said it was going to be a shit storm but then again I also said he was going to lose the election.

      We all know you have zero credibility.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 19, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    • It was definitely the first step. Keeping Comey certainly wasn’t going to make it go away. And though calling Comey a “nut job” may inflame liberal, to the common man it just reinforces that Trump did the right thing. The Leakers just provided Trump what Scott Adams calls a “linguistic kill shot”. Comey = Nut Job.

      PerezHBD

      May 20, 2017 at 8:28 am

  5. I initially thought that the Comey memo was a semi big deal, but this is just nothing. The WH just went with “agree and amplify” in response to this report.

    From a media standpoint, these last 2 weeks have been the worst of Trump’s Presidency and have clearly had an effect, knocking about 4 points off of his approval ratings. But we have weathered the storm and are in good position to bounce back over the next month in time to stop Ossoff in GA.

    Otis the Sweaty

    May 19, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    • I initially thought that the Comey memo was a semi big deal,

      The Comey memo is arguably more of Trump testifying to Flynn’s character. It doesn’t come close to an act of obstruction of justice.

      His comments to Lavrov (assuming what has been reported is accurate) is just Trump bragging behind closed doors.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 19, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    • There is video of Comey saying that what Trump does is typical and perfectly acceptable.

      Magnavox

      May 19, 2017 at 7:27 pm

  6. Trump’s statement means absolutely nothing and he may very well not have believed it. He was likely just trying to reassure the Russians that they had in him a reliable partner for advancing shared interests. These leakers need to be identified and prosecuted.

    Biffoman

    May 19, 2017 at 6:27 pm

  7. This strategy of reporting “leaks”, often dubiously sourced will have rapidly diminishing returns for the establishment.
    Even if these sad tactics worked an unpopular incumbent wins elections if the opposition has no ideas. Remember Bush vs. Kerry?
    #fakeoutrage https://t.co/LY8CAKLPbb

    Giovanni Dannato

    May 19, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    • Rapidly diminishing if only because Trump’s approval ratings are reaching the point where they just can’t get any lower.

      Magnavox

      May 19, 2017 at 7:28 pm

      • Why do approval ratings matter? Half the country wants free shit. If trump doled out free candy to all approval ratings would go to 51% so who gives a shit?

        Why do the polls matter at all? This is the same set of organizations that went from Trump landslide loss to 87% victory based on Bayesian prices on election night. Their models aren’t just innacurate they forecast the opposite outcome.

        If polling was like welding the fucking building would have collapsed already, but soft jobs can ignore the laws of physics and spew bullshit. Just like half the limousine philospher commentariat here. Yakov is the only one with a real job here.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 20, 2017 at 7:56 am

      • That should say Bayesian priors.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 20, 2017 at 7:57 am

      • “If polling was like welding the fucking building would have collapsed already…”

        Well that line is a keeper.

        Mike Street Station

        May 20, 2017 at 8:54 am

      • The idea that since Trump won once when everyone was predicting failure therefore he will always win when they predict it is obviously nuts.

        And anyone that thinks that the democrats are the only party of free shit doesn’t understand american politics. You can start to learn by looking at how republican backed health care regulation amounts to a 2 trillion dollar plus annual subsidy to the industry. Next you can read about how republican states are the ones consuming more in federal tax dollars than they send.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 2:03 pm

  8. Why is Trump saying this stuff when apparently the room is full of people who are hostile to him?

    The leakers were probably not in room the room but those who had appropriate access to the meeting’s transcripts. It should be easy to trace who leaked it because the chain of ownership for these diplomatic transcripts is fairly narrow (only certain people have the right access permissions) but Comey wouldn’t investigate the leakers.

    The Undiscovered Jew

    May 19, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    • Maybe he doesn’t give a shite who is in the room. I’m pretty sure he could care less what the press writes about him. Those liberals are still hurting from his win against HRC. Remember, they’re not called “duh press” for no reason…

      Vincent

      May 19, 2017 at 11:39 pm

      • What makes you say that? A lot seems to point to him being consumed by all the negative press.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    • Maybe he doesn’t give a shite who is in the room.

      He doesn’t.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 20, 2017 at 11:43 am

  9. Ha! “Nut job.” They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one.

    Two in the Bush

    May 19, 2017 at 7:56 pm

  10. Lion,

    “(3) Why is Trump saying this stuff when apparently the room is full of people who are hostile to him? Couldn’t he have taken the two Russians into a private room with just his topmost loyal staff members?”

    Because he isn’t saying anything…it is all made up.

    Here is their source:

    ““I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

    A document…

    Read to the NYT…

    By an American official…

    REALLY?

    This whole thing is built on hearsay.

    Meanwhile, a former presidential candidate was routing State Department emails to a personal server…and was allowed to destroy evidence when caught.

    map

    May 19, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    • All you can do is laugh. The whole thing is really just so damn farcical.

      Two in the Bush

      May 19, 2017 at 9:54 pm

      • It would be funny if we weren’t on the brink of civil war as a result of these clownbeciles and have a real risk of dying. For fucking nothing. So that transgendered non cysgendered trichromasomal LGBBQ fags can have parades in the streets or something or other.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 20, 2017 at 8:00 am

    • The times doesn’t have a history of making stuff up like that. I believe that it would have had to have been confirmed my at least one other source, even if that confirmation is not described in the aricle.

      But all of the anti trump character assassination coming from secret investigations leaked out by unnamed sources is very unseemly and unsettling.

      It’s why liberal thinkers have traditionally abhorred secret courts, secret surveillance and secret evidence, and in the past would have reflexively discouraged the news media from printing the unverified or unverifiable charges emanating from such secret sources. But because it’s Donald Trump, no one seems to care.

      http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-how-did-russiagate-start-w482262

      Magnavox

      May 20, 2017 at 12:51 am

      • The Times method is to surround authentically sourced quotes with editorial innuendo, exaggeration and worst-possible constructions in order to prime the reader psychologically into taking whatever stance the NYT wants him to take. Context is also subject to removal if not advantageous.

        Richard

        May 20, 2017 at 10:33 am

      • Walter Duranty

        And you are citing Rolling Stone?

        0-2

        Delcoman

        May 20, 2017 at 12:43 pm

      • And you are citing Rolling Stone?

        It’s an opinion piece that is on your side not factual journalism.

        Walter Duranty

        That was almost a hundred years ago.

        The Times method is to surround authentically sourced quotes with editorial innuendo, exaggeration and worst-possible constructions in order to prime the reader psychologically into taking whatever stance the NYT wants him to take. Context is also subject to removal if not advantageous.

        The person I was responding to said the quote was made up. I agree that’s what the Times does.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 8:25 pm

  11. The Trump team is leaking false info and enjoying the piranha feast. When I was a little boy I would throw helpless flying insects into spiderwebs to watch them get cocooned and eaten by the spider. Sometimes I feel that Trump takes the same sinister voyeuristic pleasure as I did…

    There is nothing to fear from planted false info about yourself. It will never be proven true but the lechers are illuminated in the process and when you’re in power, it’s useful to have a full accounting of your enemies.

    Socially Extinct

    May 19, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    • Working for Trump sounds like a truly awful experience. Can you imagine being his press secretary and being given virtually no time to prepare an explanation for his latest act of idiocy and then have him contradict everything you said with half a dozen different statements that each contradict each other? Or watching him push out everyone in favor of his doofus daughter and son in law? Or how he completely refuses to read any of the material that his underlings write for him and actually learn anything about any of the relevant issues?

      Magnavox

      May 20, 2017 at 12:43 am

      • Given all the leaks, Trump has a legitimate reason for trusting his own family. I’m 100% certain the leaks aren’t coming from Jared or Ivanka.

        Anyway, I’ve never ever ever worked at a job where there weren’t a lot of doofuses at higher levels than me.

      • In the post you say the leaks are themselves products of Trump’s cluelessness.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 1:46 pm

  12. The Deep State is too powerful and entrenched. Both parties. The entire media and show-business. All of Wall Street and big business.

    Trump can’t stand up to it even if he came out and sustained on-point guns blazing/no mercy.

    It will take nothing less than coup or collapse to every *really* change anything. I’m not holding my breath. It’s just a gradual slide to Brazil-ification.

    Maybe the Western world deserves to fall, but it’s *not* for the reasons that the Leftists give.

    fakeemail

    May 19, 2017 at 11:06 pm

    • Gonna be like The Road Warrior.

      Vincent

      May 19, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    • Trump can’t stand up to it even if he came out and sustained on-point guns blazing/no mercy.

      Trump’s problem is not the lack of blazing guns. It’s bewildering that anyone could think that.

      Maybe the Western world deserves to fall, but it’s *not* for the reasons that the Leftists give.

      The western world certainly deserves to fall in the sense that it is causing its own failure through its immense stupidity and self hatred.

      Magnavox

      May 20, 2017 at 12:37 am

      • It’s more than just stupidity and self-hatred. . .it is decadence, arrogance, and status-seeking/vanity.

        I’m always *struck* at how nasty white people are to each other; especially in work environments. Unbelievable back-stabbing, passive-aggression, and bullying of workers/employees. Whites *scorn* honest white workers who are without fancy college credentials.

        Asians and Hispanics are not like this. Of course they have their own intra-group shit, but all-in-all they stick together and are able to unify. They maintain a respect for workers and their women are not total careerist beasts. They maintain femininity, they are able to act like decent human beings, and be approachable on a human level.

        Whites have lost this capability in the name of status-seeking and “individuality.” Whites can’t stick together because they’re too busy one-upping and backstabbing each other. A greedy and selfish people like that does not deserve to survive.

        fakeemail

        May 20, 2017 at 11:50 am

      • Wow, that was possibly the first time I’ve heard the problem distilled that way instead of some abstract bullshit. 100% right.

        Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

        May 20, 2017 at 5:00 pm

      • Whites treat each other in bad-faith more than other races, IMO. This tendency has been increased by the “Bowling Alone” effect of the total collapse of social capital and trust.

        You look at these companies like Disney or Edison than replaced loyal workers with H1B Indians. Those were white supervisors/bosses that forced white workers to train their replacements before they were shown the door!

        Whites in positions of authority are willing and able to DESTROY fellow whites in order to increase and consolidate their own wealth and power!

        And in their extreme vanity and self-delusion, these bosses declare themselves great altruists and anti-racists unlike those greedy white workers who deserved to be fired! And if that fails, they simply say they are pro-business and free markets!

        fakeemail

        May 21, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      • I wonder if all the Great Wave immigration contributed to American whites’ lack of in-group loyalty (besides susceptibility to “nation of immigrants” and “wretched refuse” pap). If “white” and “WASP” were still effectively synonyms, would “we” act more like Armenian- or at least like Jewish- or Italian-Americans do, nepotism-wise?

        Maybe not, seeing as most Euro whites are even more cucked, albeit with exceptions (Eastern Euros, the Swiss, arguably the English).

        snorlaxwp

        May 21, 2017 at 5:18 pm

    • And as far as I can tell Trump isn’t really interested in tackling the media. He just wants to rail against them to distract his voters while he fucks them over economically. The media is even playing along with his tough on immigration fake out, which has only gotten immigration enforcement back up to 2014 levels.

      Magnavox

      May 20, 2017 at 12:55 am

    • I guess I’ll bring the ammo.

      Nobody

      May 20, 2017 at 2:04 am

    • Trump wields the levers to force a collapse, or to break the banks. Actually breaking the banks is key because all power derives from fiat money today (fiat money is great by the way, just currently mismanaged). Didn’t Putin do something similar on Russia?

      Forcing deficit spending to a halt or enforcing anti monopoly laws on insurers would immediately break all the moneyed gentry and cause a 15% GDP correction, but simultaneously increase the bottom 99% of Americans standard of living by 10-30% on average and up to several THOUSAND percent at the fringes.

      Imagine getting a heart attack could be paid for in cash for $1000-3000 with the finest and newest US treatment? Yeah. That’s the kind of shit we are talking about. It’s literally a chicken in every pot and a fucking buggoti in every garage.

      15% GDP correction = higher standard of living. Welcome to clown world.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

      May 20, 2017 at 8:05 am

    • The deep state is just the owners of the means of production through I’ll gotten gains. A proletariat revolution here that didn’t end in communism (i.e. Good business leaders were allowed to keep their assets) would basically be a Martin Luther style capitalist reformation. The corrupt and land rich crony capitalist class kicked to the curb and stripped of their power.

      Paul Ryan's Sickly Old Lapdog

      May 20, 2017 at 8:08 am

  13. Scott Adams doesnt owe his original ideas to Lion neither his wizzard thesis. What intrigues me is that each writte post is interesting but he is horribly boring when he speaks (the cafe thing). And his posts pulled together are not coherent. I believe he must be someone very intuitive (and very narcissistic) more than a genuine thinker. But i like him.

    Bruno from Paris

    May 20, 2017 at 2:41 am

    • I believe he must be someone very intuitive (and very narcissistic) more than a genuine thinker. But i like him.

      He has excellent intuition for what is persuasive. When he discusses persuasion techniques he can sound like he’s dismissive of logic, but he is actually explaining the internal logic of persuasion. This internal logic is often at odds with logic externally.

      The Undiscovered Jew

      May 20, 2017 at 11:48 am

    • I don’t find Scott Adams boring at all when he speaks. He’s almost always interesting.

      ttgy

      May 20, 2017 at 10:46 pm

  14. In the special edition of the Daily, from New York Times, Maggie Habberman from NYT reponds to (desingenuous Mickael Barbaro) says very interesting things PRO-TRUMP :

    1) In his mind, Trump he’s not saying anything in private that he would said publicly. Of course Russian didn’t influence the campaign, But Comey has politicized everything, and firing him, will put away pressure from me. That’s a way to extract concessions from Russian. That’s contrary to the headlines.

    2) She explains that “he’ll got over agressively to oversee the intelligence community and that doesnt necessarily engender good will”.

    3) He believes Washington spends to much time on the form and convention, and he tries to get to go to the core of the thing, the dealing power. And he has settle everything publicly. He has face little conseqences for his word in business and that could explain he would he’s not paying attention to his words, he’s just trying to getting the deal note. She notes that in his depositions under oath (there are 2) are very carefully done.

    Trump should thanks the Maggie Habberman. The other two, Barbaro and Apuzzo, are doing everything to make Trump look like a criminal every day.

    Bruno from Paris

    May 20, 2017 at 3:28 am

    • Bruno from Paris

      May 20, 2017 at 3:28 am

    • Trump he’s not saying anything in private that he would not said publicly.

      Bruno from Paris

      May 20, 2017 at 3:29 am

      • I don’t know this Maggie Habberman, but i’ll enquire on her, because she’s obviously much more intelligent (and perhaps honest) than most journalist i’ve heard or read.

        Bruno from Paris

        May 20, 2017 at 3:35 am

  15. This is kind of a strange claim. Not that Trump would call Comey a nutjob, but that a memo summarizing a meeting would include the specific words that Trump would call Comey a nutjob.

    If any of you have worked in any professional capacity, and have attended a meeting, and then seen notes, or a summary, of that meeting, you know that these types of documents don’t include such banter and small talk. They are summaries of what’s important (‘at today’s monthly sales meeting, Robinson mentioned his grandkid’s baseball game, saying the referee really screwed the team’).

    Here’s a quote from the New York Times. Note it does not say the quote came from the meeting transcripts: it came from a summary of the meeting.

    “President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting”.

    Not saying the words weren’t spoken. But it was probably just some guy at the White House who heard, or who heard what was said, and then called up the Times. But if the Times said ‘anonymous source,’ it wouldn’t have the same credibility as ‘from a memo.’ So they threw in ‘document summarizing the meeting’ to cover up what is really ‘some guy we know.’

    anon

    bingbongbaloo

    May 20, 2017 at 6:53 am

    • So the leaker wrote a memo, and shared it with no one but the NY Times?

      • Yes.
        To repeat. When we read the word ‘memo’ in a newspaper article, we are all thinking ‘official summary of the points of a meeting.’
        What we should be thinking is ‘I’ll take personal notes and mention trivial crap (Trump called Comey a nutjob) rather than the substance of the meeting.

        What’s the difference between Joe Staffguy calling the New York Times and saying ‘Hey. When Trump met with the Russian ambassador, he called Comey a nutjob’ vs. ‘In a memo summarizing the meeting between Trump and the Russian ambassador, Trump referred to Comey as a nutjob.’?

        They contain identical information. But the second statement sounds more credible, because the word ‘memo’ sounds more credible.

        ‘A memo of the meeting’ sounds more credible than ‘anonymous sources confirm’ even if the claims are identical.

        anon

        bingbongbaloo

        May 20, 2017 at 8:43 am

      • What probably happened is that one of the people in the room wrote up a description of the talk, then passed it to an associate, and it’s this associate who is the direct source to the NYT. With the full compliance of the memo writer, obviously.

        Citing quotes from a document sounds more ominous and authoritative than some guy saying “I wuz there, ohmigod you won’t believe what Trump said!” Documented quotes feel locked in while we’re conditioned to think of verbally sourced quotes as fuzzy and imprecise, subject to change and failures of memory.

        Richard

        May 20, 2017 at 10:45 am

      • Richard-
        Yes, that’s right. My point was that ‘official’ memos, or summaries of talks, generally summarize the point of the meeting-they may list attendees, list topics discussed, decisions made, deliverables. Anyone who has had an office job has done this and seen this.

        “Official memos” normally don’t include chatty small talk like ‘Trump called Comey a nutjob.’ So to claim a ‘memo’ states that Trump called Comey a nutjob, you are really misusing the word/concept ‘memo.’ Its just a guy remembering that controversial statement, thinking it would be valuable, writing it on a Word file on his computer (‘July 18th. Trump called Comey a nutjob’), then calling the New York Times to spill the scoop. Its not just heresay, or not just an anonymous source: its a…..MEMO!!!!!

        bingbongbaloo

        May 20, 2017 at 6:19 pm

      • I agree. I’ve seen plenty of meeting notes. Anyone who wrote a memo for public distribution who quotes someone calling someone else a “nut job” would get fired.

  16. You make a good point. There has been a low quality major media leak every day this week. All the media is talking about is Trump. Perhaps Trump is trying to delegitimize the media through these low quality leaks. Or perhaps he is distracting the media from real issues with fake issues.

    It’s bizarre that the leaks keep coming and it’s bizarre that the media keeps blowing it’s top off for these leaks. Trump was always out playing the media during the campaign. Maybe he’s having some of his top people doing the leaking and that’s why the media think it’s so credible even without evidence.

    XVO

    May 20, 2017 at 7:36 am

    • I don’t agree. The public is not sophisticated and if these distractions don’t stop the American people will eventually conclude that where there’s so much smoke there must be a raging fire. The one out is if Republicans defend Trump vigorously then the public is liable to figure this is just a partisan dickfight and ignore it, but DC Republicans hate Trump and are hanging him out to dry which makes the first outcome increasingly likely.

      Richard

      May 20, 2017 at 10:55 am

  17. The appearance of a pseudo-scandal, with the incessant beating of the drum by the media and Fake Comedy (Colbert et al) may be sufficient to knock off enough voters in the midwestern states Trump won by razor thin margins.

    I think this is the end game here, more than impeachment. If “Russia” etc. is all people can remember, that may be enough.

    SWPL2

    May 20, 2017 at 8:51 am

  18. Putting on my Scott Adams hat, if Trump judged that someone who works for him and serves at his pleasure is “crazy” and a “nut job,” firing that person would be not only legitimate and proper but a dereliction of Trump’s executive duty to not remove that person from office.

    Mark Caplan

    May 20, 2017 at 8:52 am

  19. Yeah Trump must be a fool for believing he can just fire a subordinate for disloyalty and insults. This is FEDGOV, Trump. Its not based on results or loyalty. It certainly doesn’t govern. What is the government really? If you got rid of all the waste, fraud and abuse, what would be left? Probably abandoned buildings full of junk and outdated office equipment.

    Joshua Sinistar

    May 20, 2017 at 9:03 am

    • “If you got rid of all the waste, fraud and abuse, what would be left? Probably abandoned buildings full of junk and outdated office equipment.”

      That’s the non-government corporation I work for.

      • Inefficient modern corporations are propped up by everyone mindlessly shoving all their savings into the stock markets via index funds, mutual funds, ETF’s, etc. The practice should be outlawed. You can buy direct equity in specific companies yourself or not at all.

        Andrew E.

        May 20, 2017 at 10:04 am

      • I agree. Many of the companies I’ve worked for were full of waste, fraud and abuse. Nobody seemed to care as long as the company was making money. VP’s were allowed to sub-contract out work to companies that they personally owned to do work in some crazy way that made it far more expensive than necessary.

        If the company had a big money losing quarter, there would be some belt tightening. At one company the belt tightening included removing every other florescent light tube to reduce the electric bill, making the building darker.

        mikeca

        May 20, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    • If a CEO of a corporation were committing fraud and some accountant was looking into it and got fired that would be if anything more illegal than Trump firing Comey because he was looking into illegal collusion between Trump and Russia. So your example sucks.

      I can’t believe people are still trying to sell this Reaganite bullshit about how the government should be run like a corporation.

      Magnavox

      May 20, 2017 at 2:06 pm

      • “this Reaganite bullshit about how the government should be run like a corporation.”

        On the whole, corporations=voluntary products, low prices and choice. That works for me.

        Robert

        May 20, 2017 at 5:36 pm

      • You’ve been reading too much Ayn Rand. The goal of corporations is to gain a monopoly so they can jack up the prices, and that’s what usually happens. Most corporate investment is on zero-sum activities and not on stuff that makes the world better.

      • The whole point of government is to solve the collection action problems that individual volunteerism can’t. Literally the whole point.

        Magnavox

        May 20, 2017 at 8:21 pm

      • The firing of the accountant would not be illegal.

        Curle

        May 20, 2017 at 9:55 pm

  20. “Who is leaking this stuff to the press? Why can’t Trump find the leakers and prosecute them for leaking classified information?”

    A lot of the leaks are coming from Trump’s White House staff. This is the leakiest White House in my memory. Apparently many of the people that work for Trump are horrified by what he says and does. Trump could fire all his White House Staff and start over, but at this point everything is such a shit show that no competent person is going to want to work in the White House.

    mikeca

    May 20, 2017 at 1:38 pm

  21. Bah. The bottom line is Trump’s fans love him more when he is accused by the left media, and his Administration nonetheless has had a startling Conga line of foreign leaders making goo-goo eyes with Trump. Now he’s on the tour!

    Lion, Libertarian Poll Data FB group notes the negative polls invariably have more leftists in them than the general population–and still show him popular. Jesus, even my neighborhood socialist is warming to the guy.

    Robert

    May 20, 2017 at 5:33 pm


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