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Attention liberals: your doorman voted for Trump

There are probably a lot of liberal elite types living in Manhattan who think they don’t know anyone who voted for Trump, but that’s because they haven’t bothered to know anything about their doormen and the other blue collar whites they encounter every day.

People who read my blog know that the prole whites in New York City love Donald Trump.

Town and Country Magazine interviewed a doorman who voted for Trump:

I wouldn’t imagine that many of the people in the building you work at are Trump supporters. Do any of them know you voted for him?

That’s why I don’t want my name used. I wasn’t going into work with my “Make America Great Again” hat. Though there’s a few guys—a few of the tenants, and almost all of the workers—who support Trump.

Note that he said that “almost all” of the workers in the building voted for Trump.

And if the guy driving your taxi or limo is white, then like your doorman and building maintenance workers, he probably voted for Trump. From the Hollywood Reporter:

Don’t confuse limousine liberals with limousine drivers.

It can be hard to find a Trump supporter in liberal New York, but one cabbie fawned over his “businessman” prowess, and a chauffeur passing by the Trump International expressed unapologetic fervor for the GOP candidate. After saying he’d vote for Trump, the driver screamed, “Make America great again!” before gunning his limo up Central Park West.

My advice for Trump is to stop it with the tax cuts for the rich and getting rid of government support for healthcare, and start doing stuff for the blue collar whites who supported you.

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

June 11, 2017 at 1:14 pm

Posted in New York City

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  1. Middle and working class whites will benefit bigly from obamacare repeal.

    Andrew E.

    June 11, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    • Working class whites will lose, because it is not going to be replaced by anything better.

      Peter Akuleyev

      June 11, 2017 at 4:49 pm

      • Wrong Peter. Working class whites will pull themselves up by the bootstraps.

        wt

        June 11, 2017 at 7:02 pm

      • When middle and working class whites no longer have to subsidize immigrants, addicts, criminals and single moms (ie. the Democrat core constituencies) through their insurance premiums, their lives will improve measurably. The Democrat constituencies who don’t pay for their own healthcare will get second tier care paid for by public funding. They’ll get the (second tier) care they need with the same level of public funding as exists under Obamacare.

        Andrew E.

        June 11, 2017 at 9:39 pm

      • Pulling oneself up by one’s bootstraps means attempting something obviously impossible. From Wikipedia:

        The saying “to pull oneself up by one’s bootstraps” was already in use during the 19th century as an example of an impossible task.

        Anthony

        June 12, 2017 at 10:21 am

    • Don’t confuse limousine liberals with limousine drivers.

      Ronnie “the limo driver” from the Howard Stern show is a NY prole Jew and of course pro Trump.

      The Italian and Jewish lower income proles on the Stern Show are pro Trump.

      But Howard and the other millionaire proles on the show – Robin, Fred and Gary are Hillary Democrats.

      My advice for Trump is to stop it with the tax cuts for the rich and getting rid of government support for healthcare

      Great but Steve Bannon doesn’t influence enough.

      Paul Ryan, the Republican donors and Cohn and others want basically open borders, tax cuts for the rich and killing obamacare.

      Trump delegates to people and then goes off and watches TV and eats.

      Rifleman

      June 11, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    • Lion is wrong about Obamacare but he may be right (politically at least) about this:

      “My advice for Trump is to stop it with the tax cuts for the rich”

      Trump needs to get a leash around these rich libtard types and the way to do it is to target some windfall profit taxes at people hitting >10M. They are so far out on the “fair share” branch they’d have no choice but to play ball.

      At the very least it would siphon money away from then funding pointless oil protests.

      Lion of the Turambar

      June 12, 2017 at 7:34 am

  2. I work in the entertainment industry and I sorta empathize with the “doorman” class. Granted, my job places me a little above the “peon” level, but i am a prole at heart. A prole Hispanic, at that, which in the “Industry” is an alienating double-whammy. I rather enjoy the “stranger in a strange land” dynamic, myself.

    Socially Extinct

    June 11, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    • Goes to show you how we live in cognitive dissonant world:

      I spoke to a person who lives in downtown Manhattan, and she was telling me how these Donald – Pu$$Y in Spanish posters are ubiquitous in SWPL areas.

      Most SWPLs don’t even know what is a “pendejo”.

      JS

      June 11, 2017 at 3:29 pm

      • F**k Trump spray-painted stenciling is the most common expression in crap areas I’ve seen around here. I grew up learning the tame version of “pendejo” simply means dumb, but the word takes on deeper, non-kid-friendly connotations now.

        Socially Extinct

        June 11, 2017 at 4:22 pm

      • They would know what “pendejo” means if they saw “the Big Lebowski.”

        Njguy73

        June 11, 2017 at 8:16 pm

      • Most SWPLs barely understand any Spanish, and these signage are all over their neighborhoods.

        Talking about the stupidity of America or in this case, elitist NYC!!!

        JS

        June 12, 2017 at 8:22 am

  3. What policies could Trump pursue that would really help working-class whites?

    Gozo

    June 11, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    • No more immigrants, but that’s not going to happen.

      JS

      June 11, 2017 at 3:23 pm

      • We need to get rid/weaken labor unions first.

        wt

        June 11, 2017 at 7:04 pm

      • “We need to get rid/weaken labor unions first.”

        Labor units have weakened themselves. From Eastern Airlines to Hostess, they drive the companies that they depend on out of business. Then they decided to just accept the Democratic platform wholesale and supported unlimited illegal immigration, their worker’s competitors.

        At the rate they are trying to commit suicide, it’s a wonder unions still exist.

        Mike Street Station

        June 12, 2017 at 6:16 am

    • On immigrants Trump is arguably doing more than his predecessors, even if it is not as much as most of us would like to see, and some of it, like the “travel ban” is pure theater. Trump could have easily improved Obamacare by putting some teeth to enforcement of the mandates and forcing congress to accept it, and then taken credit for fixing what Obama couldn’t do right. Instead he is going along with Ryan’s agenda, which is basically tax cuts for the rich financed by trashing what is left of Obamacare. Trump could also help working-class whites by not sending them to die in Afghanistan and Iraq, but he has handed Middle East policy over to Mattis and the military, so expect the opposite.

      Peter Akuleyev

      June 11, 2017 at 4:55 pm

      • “Trump could also help working-class whites by not sending them to die in Afghanistan and Iraq, but he has handed Middle East policy over to Mattis and the military, so expect the opposite.”

        The military is a lot less gung-ho than other parts of the deep state. The military knows firsthand how much of a headache it is to administrate lawless hellholes, and the military would honestly prefer just to have fun inventing new gadgets and for the next great conventional war with Russia or China. The military largely consists of “math and football” types who like devising new weapons, testing them out on the field, and not having to deal with political BS. The Middle East is definitely not a place where you’ll find a lot of success with that mentality, as we saw in the 2000s.

        It’s really the goons at CIA, State and the like who get worked up about pictures of dead Syrian children, and enjoy getting dirty in the muck and mire of Third World politics.

        Sid

        June 11, 2017 at 5:58 pm

      • I think the math types in the Army have, at least in sheer numbers, declined. I read that bottom threshold for an Army officer declined from 130 IQ in 1940 to 120 in 1960s to 110 today. Hard to believe the bottom threshold was ever as high as 130.

        Curle

        June 11, 2017 at 11:22 pm

      • There’s no way the minimum IQ was ever 130, especially in peacetime when armies always accumulate a lot of dead wood because of politicians pulling strings, friend of a friend, and so on. I doubt the Army has raised it up as high as 115 at any point in their history.

        Richard

        June 12, 2017 at 11:15 am

      • “There’s no way the minimum IQ was ever 130, especially in peacetime when armies always accumulate a lot of dead wood because of politicians pulling strings, friend of a friend, and so on. I doubt the Army has raised it up as high as 115 at any point in their history.”

        That’s probably true although no doubt the officer corps probably had a higher IQ generations ago when West Point and the other Service academies primarily taught engineering and other hard sciences.

        Mike Street Station

        June 13, 2017 at 6:26 am

      • West Point was never primarily an engineering and hard science academy. Cadets who did well in those subjects went into the Corps of Engineers, who very probably did have a minimum IQ threshold of 115 or higher, but there was plenty of room for jocks in the other branches.

        Richard

        June 13, 2017 at 10:17 am

  4. the rich hated brexit so much that kensington and chelsea went for labor for the first time ever.

    Little Saint James pizza

    June 11, 2017 at 2:21 pm

  5. SO what is going on in Britain ? how is it that a radical lefty got so much votes ? What about the Brexit?

    eyaldavid

    June 11, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    • Corbyn vowed to carry out Brexit if elected Prime Minister, so a lot of ex-Labour voters who had deserted the party for UKIP in recent years felt comfortable enough to go back. In calling the election the Conservative Party had assumed that nearly all of the UKIP vote would head their way now that Brexit was decided, but they forgot that a lot of nationalist voters hate standard Tory policies on welfare, health care, social services, etc.

      In theory Brexit shouldn’t be endangered at all, since more than 80% of Britons voted for parties that promised to see it through. In reality, though, this gravely weakens May’s ability to negotiate an exit deal with the EU, and there’s going to be intense establishment pressure to not pass anything and let the whole thing wither on a vine. Kind of like what the Republican Party is doing with their “Brexit” from Obamacare.

      Richard

      June 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm

    • According to my family in London, May is the Jeb Bush of England. A cup of tepid milk could have run a more inspiring campaign than the Conservatives did. Corbyn whatever his considerable faults passionately believes in his ideology.

      And the right wing press over there loves to make fun of his weird intense gaze but I bet you it’s caused a few panties to drop back in the day. (Sturdy woollen Socialist knickers. Down with Bourgeoise frippery!)

      Lionel of the Richiesphere

      June 11, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    • Protest vote. May is a squishy “Barren Cat Lady” and was useless in her previous job in charge of terrorism (as Home Secretary), and has been worse than useless as PM. She has no personality.

      Luckily, the election left the Ulster Conservatives (who support Trump, Brexit and a firm hand with the jihadists) holding the balance of power by propping up the Conservatives, as long as they support the Ulster Agenda.

      May is now a placeholder for Boris Johnson (Mayor of London before the muslim, Khan), a strong leader with personality who will hopefully recover the credibility of the Conservatives (at least to some extent) and lead them, first through Brexit skilfully, and then to a crushing victory over Labour in the next elections.

      Corbyn (who is somewhat to the left of Lenin politically) is a loser, who only a year ago lost a no confidence vote among members of his own party 172 to 40, but refused to resign. He has, through no particular reason other than luck, found himself riding the special circumstances and thinking himself (quite fancifully) as being shortly in line for a stint as PM. He’s mistaken, as are the MSM touting his prospects. This is his zenith.

      gda

      June 11, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      • gda — Good summary. I think you’re right.

        destructure

        June 11, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      • you’re both fighting the last war. laissez-faire, free market, free trade is the maginot line. real wages have been stagnant in the US for at least 40 years. immigration is only part of the reason. “a rising tide lifts all boats” was always a lie, but the last 40+ years have proved it.

        if it’s not corbyn it will be someone to the left of corbyn. oh believe me.

        y’all overplayed your hand. y’all see bernie’s and corbyn’s success and say, “this contraption the aeroplane will never amount to anything. what the army needs is more horses.”

        Little Saint James Pizza

        June 12, 2017 at 2:28 am

      • Little Saint James Pizza — Socialism has been around a long time. It’s never worked. But every so often it has a minor revival among young idiots who haven’t been around long enough to see how disastrous it is. It’s latest victim was Venezuela.

        http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/what-caused-venezuelas-collapse-is-no-mystery-except-to-economically-illiterate-journalists/

        destructure

        June 12, 2017 at 11:34 am

      • only if by “socialist” you mean a dictatorship and the abolition of private property. the developed world is already pretty socialist and has been for a long time. 42% of US gdp is government spending and it’s near the bottom of the list of developed countries. the greatest economic success story of the last 40 years is the People’s Republic of China. it still has many very large SOEs and the government is much more involved in the economy than most in the west think.

        corbyn and sanders are not bolsheviks. they’re social democrats/democratic socialists. this is the mainstream in scandinavia. it’s nothing to be feared. sweden still has lots of very rich people and a very high standard of living.

        my point was that the globalists/supply-siders/neo-liberals can’t impoverish the people of their own countries and expect that people like corbyn and le pen are going to go away. the political divide now isn’t left vs right. it’s the globalist elite vs everyone else. the old political divisions are passe.

        Little Saint James Pizza

        June 12, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      • in general capitalism and democracy are compatible only so long as there is a large middle class and social mobility. greed and status whoring by the rich will be their undoing. you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. without a middle class the libertarians will have to choose dictatorship over democracy.

        Little Saint James Pizza

        June 12, 2017 at 4:04 pm

      • “only if by “socialist” you mean a dictatorship and the abolition of private property.”

        That’s what socialism is, The only difference is degree. It should be pointed out that the developed world developed first. Only afterwards were socialist programs instituted. And it hasn’t been for the better. The more socialist countries become the more stagnant their economies become. As you point out, US wages have been stagnant for decades. Western socialism is like a parasite that weakens but doesn’t kill it’s host. Even Scandinavia has been rolling back their socialist programs for years trying to stimulate the economy. As for China, the average salary is about $900 per year. Hardly a miracle.

        corbyn and sanders are not bolsheviks.

        Of course they are.

        “my point was that the globalists/supply-siders/neo-liberals can’t impoverish the people of their own countries and expect that people like corbyn and le pen are going to go away. the political divide now isn’t left vs right. it’s the globalist elite vs everyone else. the old political divisions are passe.”

        I agree… except for the last line. It’s the same old political divisions there have always been. Or, at least, a return to the political divisions of the past. Of course, you should realize what’s happening isn’t from a lack of socialism but because of it. Foolish people think they can give government more power to interfere in the economy and redistribute wealth while failing to realize it’s the rich people, corporations, special interests, etc who control the government in the first place. Giving the government more power is just giving the elitist more power.

        destructure

        June 13, 2017 at 2:17 pm

  6. Who voted for Trump if you’re a Manhattanite?

    I’m sure the residents at Trump Tower didn’t vote for him.

    Besides heroin-addicted-guido-island, there aren’t many prole areas in NYC anymore.

    JS

    June 11, 2017 at 3:20 pm

  7. I had dinner the other night with three other family members – 2 docs and my retired engineer father, all self-made millionaires. We were a little bit shocked, though proud & pleased, when we each simultaneously exclaimed voting for Pres. Trump.

    Though I want to see more immediate firmness on legal and illegal immigration and refugee settlement, even as far as a complete moratorium. Regarding Obamacare – the high premiums and high deductibles make it nearly worthless . I want to see a reasonably priced Medicare-for-all or bring back low-premium catastrophic health insurance plans.

    E. Rekshun

    June 11, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    • Trouble is, America, more than any other nation, is built around the notion that all able-bodied adults should have jobs. And without a job, you’re pretty much f*cked. That’s going to be a big problem — hence the reason why working class Whites voted for Donald Trump.

      JS

      June 11, 2017 at 5:21 pm

      • JS. If one are able bodied why shouldn’t one have a job? Most immigrants come to the USA to make money. That’s the essence of USA. Work hard (and smart) and you can make more money that you could even dream of in your birth country. Other wise why bother coming?
        And if one is a native, no excuses if you are a slacker and did not pursue opportunities to make bank over here. Only stupid idiots think that a high school education should be enough to work for rest of your life and retire.

        wt

        June 11, 2017 at 7:14 pm

      • so what you’re saying is, “a high school education should be enough to work for rest of your life and retire”?

        Little Saint James Pizza

        June 12, 2017 at 2:06 am

      • That’s just what we need. An immigrant telling Americans what the “essence of the USA” is.

        destructure

        June 12, 2017 at 11:45 am

      • America is a money machine, not a nation. It’s been like this for peons.

        JS

        June 12, 2017 at 2:40 pm

      • America might have been built on that notion but it’s less true now than ever. The labor participation rate declined rather dramatically under Obama. Many conservatives were quick to blame the Obama economy. Instead they should have looked at the huge growth in Social Security Disability.

        The standard of living on SSI isn’t much different than what you would earn in a low paying, hard working job. Not everyone qualifies though. For example an addict would collect but a play by the rules kind of person generally wouldn’t. So we are seeing a big divide between the working poor (Trump voters) and non-working poor (Dems). Liberals are often dismayed that the working poor votes “against their own interests”. They fail to see the working poor (rightfully IMO) resents the non-working poor.

        Jay Fink

        June 12, 2017 at 2:29 pm

  8. Why would the liberals care that their doorman voted for Trump?

    Surely if anything liberals enjoy putting an ideological distance between themselves and their social inferiors just as they love creating distance in other ways. They’d probably be more disappointed to find out that their valets and doormen thought just like them. Or at least the white ones.

    prolier than thou

    June 11, 2017 at 6:16 pm

  9. Trump is an idiot and easily susceptible to influence from those he perceives as on his side; plus, he is too lazy to really get into the details of policy, so delegates it to those he feels he can trust, usually going by whether that person is perceived to be on his side or not, again. Republicans made peace with him and started positioning themselves as on his side vs. the hostile Democrats, hoping they could thusly influence his policy — they were right, they can and they are.

    chairman

    June 11, 2017 at 7:38 pm

  10. The doormen in upscale apartment buildings probably outearn most of the tenants.

    Peter

    ironrailsironweights

    June 11, 2017 at 9:13 pm

  11. My advice for Trump is to stop it with the tax cuts for the rich and getting rid of government support for healthcare, and start doing stuff for the blue collar whites who supported you.

    the problem with american healthcare is the cost of goods and services, not the insurance market. prices should be 25-50% lower. the industry gets exemptions from consumer protection laws no other industry receives.

    our system is actually similar to australia’s (which trump praised last month), but without their universality. the government plan is the default you receive if you do nothing, but no one is required to participate. their public hospitals are also universal, and state run.

    so imagine getting medicaid (medicare is too expensive to make universal), with the option of paying aetna if you don’t want the governent plan, and having your state operate the va facilities in your state.

    oh, and australia’s medicare tax is 1.5%, unlike our 2.9% tax, because prices are lower.

  12. OT- An associate professor in the COMMUNICATIONS dept if a large flagship state research university gets a write up for his own project to connect health to racism by connecting immunological responses to self reported racist incidents. As if self interpreted ‘racism’ was a control variable.

    A microaggression is a statement, action or incident that expresses indirect, subtle discrimination against a marginalized group and be- ing on the receiving end of it can make your blood boil. And now, a blood test may be able to prove it. In an exploratory study, Assistant Professor John Crowley is poking fingers to find out what happens in the body after a racist encounter. Overt discrimination has long been linked to health disparities, but subtle slights? That’s a newer question. “We really don’t know much about how to cope with micro- aggressions, and what they can do to people,” says Crowley, ’12, who teaches in the Department of Communication. https://magazine.washington.edu/columns_wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/COLUMNS-JUNE-2017.pdf

    Curle

    June 12, 2017 at 9:54 am

  13. My cousin, an elite lawyer who works in Manhattan and lives in a New Jersey suburb, is one of those who claims he doesn’t know anyone who voted for Trump.

    Jay Fink

    June 12, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    • Most lawyers seem to be liberal heebs.

      El Hombre

      June 14, 2017 at 11:38 pm


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