Lion of the Blogosphere

Trump Jr. news

I had insomnia so I read a lot of mainstream media stories in the middle of the night.

The impression I get is that the mainstream media is elated because they think they’ve finally caught Trump red-handed, confirming everything they always believed.

Ignoring the reality that there was only a short one-time meeting with someone who is just a private lawyer and not a Russian government official, who as far as we know provided zero help to the Trump campaign and only wanted to lobby the campaign about the Magnitsky Act and Russian adoptions.

Donald Trump Jr.’s “crime” is that he didn’t have a proper sense of paranoia regarding the carrot of obtaining dirt on Hillary Clinton. This may be a failing of him being born rich. Regular people like me are much more paranoid. I never write anything in an email that would get me in trouble if it were leaked to anyone.

What about the real mysteries here?

1. How did the Times get Donald Trump Jr.’s emails? My first guess was that the Mueller investigation obtained them, and someone from that group leaked them to the Times. But now I read that CNN says that Mueller didn’t know about the emails until now.

So who could have had the access and the motive to leak them?

2. Why was Donald Trump Jr. set up to meet the Russian lawyer in the first place? Was the Goldstone guy who played a key role the duper, or was he duped by someone else?

Written by Lion of the Blogosphere

July 12, 2017 at 8:27 am

Posted in News, Politics

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  1. Just remember, all the decadent elites foaming at the mouth over this don’t actually care about Russia, and don’t even really care about Donald Trump. Their hate is for people like us. They want to destroy him so they can get back to destroying us.

    Two in the Bush

    July 12, 2017 at 8:52 am

    • Beautifully stated

      SWPL2

      July 12, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    • Yeah, it’s all about you.

      Vince

      July 12, 2017 at 3:10 pm

  2. Lion,

    1.) NYT most likely got the emails from Comey (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/former-doj-official-trump-jr-didnt-commit-crime). Not sure how he got the emails though. I don’t want to go full conspiracy and say that the NSA got them. I really don’t know. Maybe Trump was right and Obama did “tap” his phones, emails, etc.

    2.) I doubt this Goldstone guy tried to dupe Jr. Most likely he was duped by someone else. The videos and pictures of Goldstone are pretty hilarious. He’s a dope.

    JerseGuy

    July 12, 2017 at 8:57 am

    • “1. How did the Times get Donald Trump Jr.’s emails? My first guess was that the Mueller investigation obtained them, and someone from that group leaked them to the Times”

      How did all these Senators at confirmation hearing know to ask questions on the record about Russian contacts.

      It seems pretty clear to me that the unmasking was then widely shared in Democrat circles for political purposes.

      Lion of the Turambar

      July 12, 2017 at 9:52 am

  3. How did the Times get Donald Trump Jr.’s emails?

    Heh, heh. Someone to talk to this guy. He seems pretty distraught though. Good stuff.

    Andrew E.

    July 12, 2017 at 9:16 am

  4. 2. Why was Donald Trump Jr. set up to meet the Russian lawyer in the first place? Was the Goldstone guy who played a key role the duper, or was he duped by someone else?

    Lion, Fusion GPS, a political oppo firm often hired by the DNC, was certainly involved in the setup. Recall that Fusion GPS are the ones who paid that former British spy Steele to create and disseminate the fake Russian dossier on Trump about the peeing hookers. This will get fun.

    Andrew E.

    July 12, 2017 at 9:23 am

    • I knew that story about having hookers pee on him had to be fake. The only person I know who would find such a thing erotic is me.

      Peter

      ironrailsironweights

      July 12, 2017 at 1:14 pm

  5. It’s willful blindness on the media’s part.

    There was one e-mail that states that the Russian government supports Trump and the reporter has juicy info on Hillary Clinton colluding with them. If you take the assertion that the Russian government supports Trump as true (based on that e-mail), then you must also conclude that Hillary Clinton was colluding with the Russian government. There is no basis to think otherwise.

    Of course the whole thing was complete non-sense; no one at that meeting was a representative of the Russian Government, but it looks like the Russian woman at the meeting may have been a Democratic plant. As Lion said, the bad part about this whole thing is that DJT Jr. went to the meeting himself instead of sending a crony to do that. I chalk that up to being simply naive about politics and the skulduggery that goes on and wanting dirt on your opponent, which is natural.

    MSM will fulminate about Russia, but there is nothing there.

    ASF

    July 12, 2017 at 9:24 am

  6. Trump Sr. Ordered them leaked. His new lawyer sees the writing on the wall and wants to have underlings take the blame.
    No doubt there’s plenty more to come. This chick didn’t fly in from Moscow for twenty minutes of crap.

    Heyoka

    July 12, 2017 at 9:26 am

    • Keep pressing. You’re soooo close to impeaching the President and getting some of his circle thrown in prison. Don’t give up, you’re almost there.

      Andrew E.

      July 12, 2017 at 10:05 am

      • I’ll just sit back and watch. If you read the Post’s “DJT Jr. Is an idiot” editorial, you can see the defense strategy taking shape. Too bad for them he wasn’t idiot enough not to cc kushner and manafort.

        Heyoka

        July 12, 2017 at 10:31 am

      • This story will soon vanish without a trace. And you’ll disappear with it.

        driveallnight

        July 12, 2017 at 11:29 am

    • Trump Sr. Ordered them leaked: but because he wanted to change the topic back to Russia.

      The press dutifully followed instructions laid off Russia for a week or so, but Trump has determined that the Russia topic works for him so he has whipped the press back into a frenzy by leaking the news.

      Lion o' the Turambar

      July 12, 2017 at 1:12 pm

  7. Were they Gmail emails? Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Google or some other tech company leaked them.

    peterike

    July 12, 2017 at 9:33 am

  8. ” How did the Times get Donald Trump Jr.’s emails?”

    I heard an interview with one of the NYT reporters on the story. The NYT never had the emails until Trump Jr released them. The NYT talked to several sources who had the emails and gave the NYT quotes from the emails. Apparently some of the quotes were not word for word correct, but still had the same meaning. This indicates the source was not reading the emails to the NYT reporter but quoting from memory.

    It could be these emails were leaked by some Congressional staff people that got them as part of one of the investigations. Someone like Paul Manafort may have turned the emails over to Congress.

    “Why was Donald Trump Jr. set up to meet the Russian lawyer in the first place? Was the Goldstone guy who played a key role the duper, or was he duped by someone else?”

    One could see someone coming up with the idea of offering the Trump team dirt on Clinton as a way to get them to listen to a pitch about the Magnitsky sanctions. At this point in time the Russian government did not think Trump had much of chance or winning, they just wanted to do maximum damage to Clinton to weaken her as a president. Why would the Russians be wasting time trying to lobby Trump about the the Magnitsky sanctions?

    The current Trump team story is Trump Jr was setup to take this meeting with promises of Russian candy (dirt on Clinton), but the real purpose was a pitch to lift the Magnitsky sanctions. This story makes no sense, so it is probably is not true, just like all the previous stories over the last few days.

    It is more likely this was a Russian intelligence operation of some sort. Perhaps the idea was just to see if the Trump team would call the FBI and report the Russian attempt to offer help with the election. In this case the Russian lawyer may not even have realized what the purpose of the meeting was.

    Perhaps the Russian lawyer just told the Trump team what the Russians were planning to do and/or got their approval. It was about a month after this meeting that the Russians began releasing the DNC documents through Wikileaks. In this case the Magnitsky sanctions is the cover story for what the meeting was about.

    Don’t forget that later in the year Jared Kushner, who was in the meeting, asked the Russians if the Trump team could use the secure communication equipment in the Russian embassy to talk to Russian officials without the CIA monitoring their discussion.

    mikeca

    July 12, 2017 at 10:34 am

    • The Maginitsky Act effects individuals. Rich individuals who have the means to hire lobbyists on their behalf. And lobbyists working for rich clients have an incentive to max out their billable hours and aren’t going to be bothered much by the fact Trump didn’t have a high chance of winning. This same woman was pictured meeting with McCain and the US Ambassador under Obama so I imagine she just made the rounds meeting everyone. Rather than concocting some grand conspiracy, the more plausible scenario is this is just another Nothing Burger the media is hyping because they have deluded themselves in to believing the kooky Russian they dreamed up.

      PerezHBD

      July 12, 2017 at 11:30 am

  9. I’m not the sort of bore who volunteers health advice, I’m really not. But I used to have insomnia. Then, for a different problem entirely, I stopped eating all wheat products – bread, pasta, pizza. Presto, no more insomnia. The downside, I’m now having dreams of an old girlfriend I never used to think about.

    Commercial-Residential

    July 12, 2017 at 11:37 am

    • Cutting out wheat can cure a lot of ills. Problem is wheat is so damn tasty and convenient.

      peterike

      July 12, 2017 at 3:19 pm


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